as inspiration. Thanks dcl595 
Topic: [ANN][YAC] YACoin ongoing development - page 145. (Read 379983 times)
Is it possible that ppl are selling their hard earned yacoins for 0.00016... What a bunch od stupid idiots 
Thanks for all the developers working on this. I've never seen so many working together. Aside from bitcoin that is.
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Updated. TBH, I don't like the checkpointing thing, it makes things complex & centralized.
It's your choice. But there is no way to resolve this weighting scheme flaw without checkpointing.If you will implement new trust score calculation method, it will introduce chain fork, so you still need grace period with checkpointing.
I see. When I see the checkpointing validation code "... pfrom->Misbehaving(100);". This is interesting and make me laugh and make me remind some scenarios in my childhood playing house-holding games.
And then I review code "bool CBlock::CheckBlock(bool fCheckPOW, bool fCheckMerkleRoot) const",
OMHOLYGOD, this code makes me crazy.
TBH, I don't like the checkpointing thing, it makes things complex & centralized.
It's your choice. But there is no way to resolve this weighting scheme flaw without checkpointing.Even if you will implement new trust score calculation method, it will introduce chain fork, so you still need grace period with checkpointing.
It's not an issue when PoS becomes common as there should be more PoS blocks than PoW blocks, so you wouldn't see long consecutive PoW blocks to be orphaned by a malicious PoS minter.
Checkpoint should be enabled for any ppcoin forks.
Actually, it's an issue, because it takes some time to make PoS common for the chain. This makes network vulnerable until there is not enough stake weight in opposition to attacker. And checkpointing is not more than workaround for this.Checkpoint should be enabled for any ppcoin forks.
Also there is another problem... Unlike PoW hashing rate, stake weight could be used multiple times without any overhead. It allows attacker to repeat his attempts to generate consecutive stakes until he will get lucky enough. And there is high probability to success without holding large stake, 20-25% of total weight (not coins) will be more than enough.
You can retry your attempt to generate consecutive stakes 1000, 50000 or 1 million times without any problem, using the same outputs. You should always hold it in the mind.
So, with the current weighting scheme you should always have checkpointing enabled, even if there is enough total stake weight. You can't remove checkpointing without altering block weighting implementation, because it's dangerous. And you can't alter it without making system less energy efficient...
But I think that energy-efficiency could be partially sacrificed in favor of security.
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TBH, I don't like the checkpointing thing, it makes things complex & centralized.
Mmh, would it be possible to know at any moment how many coins are maturing for PoS and say, if a big wallet is maturing in the next hour, require more confirmations than normal?
Edit: Ok, the wallet could be split. Still, could the possibility of a PoS double spend be anticipated by looking at how many coins are maturing in the network?
There is no way to detect active stake holder before his chain will be published. Besides, confirmations amount doesn't matter, malicious stakeholder could overwrite more than more than billion of pow blocks by publishing one stake.Edit: Ok, the wallet could be split. Still, could the possibility of a PoS double spend be anticipated by looking at how many coins are maturing in the network?
The only solution is enable broadcasted checkpointing immediately to workaround this problem. It will give some time to think about better solution.
How could he overwrite the blocks already confirmed? This is insane!
How is the PoS block appended into the blockchain? If it's appended to the chain, how could he overwrite?
It's not an issue when PoS becomes common as there should be more PoS blocks than PoW blocks, so you wouldn't see long consecutive PoW blocks to be orphaned by a malicious PoS minter.
Checkpoint should be enabled for any ppcoin forks.
Checkpoint should be enabled for any ppcoin forks.
Mmh, would it be possible to know at any moment how many coins are maturing for PoS and say, if a big wallet is maturing in the next hour, require more confirmations than normal?
Edit: Ok, the wallet could be split. Still, could the possibility of a PoS double spend be anticipated by looking at how many coins are maturing in the network?
There is no way to detect active stake holder before his chain will be published. Besides, confirmations amount doesn't matter, malicious stakeholder could overwrite more than more than billion pow blocks by publishing one stake.Edit: Ok, the wallet could be split. Still, could the possibility of a PoS double spend be anticipated by looking at how many coins are maturing in the network?
The only solution is enable broadcasted checkpointing immediately to workaround this problem. It will give some time to think about better solution.
lol i achieved what i set out to do
Get a sarcastic comment about your post from WindMaster while probably cheesing him off in the process? Bravo.
Mmh, would it be possible to know at any moment how many coins are maturing for PoS and say, if a big wallet is maturing in the next hour, require more confirmations than normal?
Edit: Ok, the wallet could be split. Still, could the possibility of a PoS double spend be anticipated by looking at how many coins are maturing in the network?
Edit: Ok, the wallet could be split. Still, could the possibility of a PoS double spend be anticipated by looking at how many coins are maturing in the network?
I think yacoin is in a good spot. If you looked at the amount of work and intelligent thought invested in the coin and compare it to the market cap, I think it is poised for growth. Imagine if it became more mainstream off the bat... I think you would have seen a lot of people buy-in for a little bit and then drop it for a similar alternative. Right now, I'm pretty sure OneCoin is the only alt trying to copycat yacoin. I imagine one might be developed with a higher N value starting off. I think it is important that yacoin lies relatively low for a few more N-value increases.
lol i achieved what i set out to do
firstly i will apologize for my frustration and im not really pointing my finger at any one person but im about to lose my shit with this coin and its devs or lack of rather.
i really think this is a piss poor effort from alot of you and i think it really, like always boils down to leadership and people trying to keep it quiet so they can mine more
but thats just backwars you make mining proifitable and eco freindly by increasing its value and accesability! (im not attacking anyone in pert so please dont focus on the wrong part of my point here)
but thats just backwars you make mining proifitable and eco freindly by increasing its value and accesability! (im not attacking anyone in pert so please dont focus on the wrong part of my point here)
Possibly I missed your git pull request with all the contributions and patches you've made to help give back to the community by helping to improve the YACoin client code. Can you send them again?
+1...speaking of.... gotta go remind ali1234 about the pull request on cpuminer...
firstly i will apologize for my frustration and im not really pointing my finger at any one person but im about to lose my shit with this coin and its devs or lack of rather.
i really think this is a piss poor effort from alot of you and i think it really, like always boils down to leadership and people trying to keep it quiet so they can mine more
but thats just backwars you make mining proifitable and eco freindly by increasing its value and accesability! (im not attacking anyone in pert so please dont focus on the wrong part of my point here)
but thats just backwars you make mining proifitable and eco freindly by increasing its value and accesability! (im not attacking anyone in pert so please dont focus on the wrong part of my point here)
Possibly I missed your git pull request with all the contributions and patches you've made to help give back to the community by helping to improve the YACoin client code. Can you send them again?
There's actually a basic facelift for yacoin.org sent to the admin days ago, but it hasn't gone up yet. So a couple of us are talking of setting up an alternative homepage.
I am the owner of yaco.in and i can host the website on my server. I can also make the web site, but i need help for the content, because i'am not english spoken...
let me know if i can do something to help..
You can host the web and the client as long as the client won't make a fork of the block-chain.
If you need the built of the client, just let us know, we can aid for that.
There's actually a basic facelift for yacoin.org sent to the admin days ago, but it hasn't gone up yet. So a couple of us are talking of setting up an alternative homepage.
I am the owner of yaco.in and i can host the website on my server. I can also make the web site, but i need help for the content, because i'am not english spoken...
let me know if i can do something to help..
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