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Qxw
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October 01, 2014, 04:31:26 AM
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October 01, 2014, 04:23:55 AM
4x 340 hash/s should give true 1200 hash/s (work utility)

so you guys tell me what to expect with 1.2 khash/s in yac per day ...

imo about 1300 to 1500 yac

my confirmed and unconfirmed after exactly 24h was about 650 yac

I'm now into 37 hours and it doesn't look to catch up at all.

PS:
in the past such calculations worked out just fine (n14 + n15)

As a brainstorm and without diving too much into it, I wonder if estimations assume pool hashrate as total network hashrate. At NFactor 14,15 it just so happened that coinmine dominated total network hashrate, so a mistake like that would have had negligible impacts.

I think it is time the pools post in hash/s vs khash/s. I contacted yac.m-s-t.org about it a while back, but it will be worth doing again, yac.coinmine.pl especially.

In other news, YAC is in THIRD place in voting at www.crypto-trade.com/voting. If nothing changes, YAC will be listed on that exchange (including a USD/YAC pair) in 6 weeks! It would be great to see it not be leap-frogged by another coin, but I guarantee it will require more votes. I'd love to see it happen organically without any more BTC donated to get YAC on that exchange.
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October 01, 2014, 04:07:15 AM
22316340   2014-10-01 10:03:15   Credit   Unconfirmed         733320   1.50679363
22316304   2014-10-01 10:01:17   Credit   Unconfirmed         733319   1.55030560
22316250   2014-10-01 09:59:15   Credit   Unconfirmed         733316   0.43363034
22316212   2014-10-01 09:57:20   Credit   Unconfirmed         733313   5.59282703
22316197   2014-10-01 09:57:18   Credit   Unconfirmed         733312   0.94767658
22316167   2014-10-01 09:57:15   Credit   Unconfirmed         733311   0.79072479
22316087   2014-10-01 09:51:14   Credit   Unconfirmed         733309   1.16129224
22316036   2014-10-01 09:49:14   Credit   Unconfirmed         733308   1.35420698
22315992   2014-10-01 09:45:15   Credit   Unconfirmed         733306   2.30316628
22315956   2014-10-01 09:43:14   Credit   Unconfirmed         733305   0.81627933
22315906   2014-10-01 09:39:16   Credit   Unconfirmed         733302   0.40344660
22315864   2014-10-01 09:35:21   Credit   Unconfirmed         733298   2.54600240
22315790   2014-10-01 09:33:19   Credit   Unconfirmed         733293   2.63525360
22315704   2014-10-01 09:31:17   Credit   Unconfirmed         733289   1.30545441
22315662   2014-10-01 09:31:15   Credit   Unconfirmed         733287   1.30149329
22315554   2014-10-01 09:27:18   Credit   Unconfirmed         733283   1.18269141
22315520   2014-10-01 09:25:15   Credit   Unconfirmed         733281   1.57416931
22315492   2014-10-01 09:23:17   Credit   Unconfirmed         733280   3.54202010
22315462   2014-10-01 09:23:14   Credit   Unconfirmed         733279   0.54824572
22315414   2014-10-01 09:19:15   Credit   Unconfirmed         733276   0.67089192
22315369   2014-10-01 09:17:15   Credit   Unconfirmed         733274   1.34660404
22315331   2014-10-01 09:15:15   Credit   Unconfirmed         733272   1.75452770
22315260   2014-10-01 09:13:14   Credit   Unconfirmed         733268   2.09565559
22315227   2014-10-01 09:11:14   Credit   Unconfirmed         733266   0.28170141
22315167   2014-10-01 09:09:15   Credit   Unconfirmed         733264   1.69457343
22315133   2014-10-01 09:07:17   Credit   Unconfirmed         733263   1.10741843
22315097   2014-10-01 09:07:15   Credit   Unconfirmed         733261   1.17533640
22315058   2014-10-01 09:03:15   Credit   Unconfirmed         733258   0.48356682
22315004   2014-10-01 08:59:17   Credit   Unconfirmed         733255   0.33286607
22314963   2014-10-01 08:59:15   Credit   Unconfirmed         733254   1.24300278



efficiency 100% (miner shows 7 rejected shares in 37 hours)
Qxw
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October 01, 2014, 04:02:13 AM
4x 340 hash/s should give true 1200 hash/s (work utility)

so you guys tell me what to expect with 1.2 khash/s in yac per day ...

imo about 1300 to 1500 yac

my confirmed and unconfirmed after exactly 24h was about 650 yac

I'm now into 37 hours and it doesn't look to catch up at all.

PS:
in the past such calculations worked out just fine (n14 + n15)

650 YAC is too low for this your miner. (with today total net hashrate)


Go to your account and there transactions.

Take copypaste about ~20 last credits.

Here example


Last there is block number and amount of YAC
Quote
22316112 2014-10-01 09:53:14 Credit Unconfirmed    733310 4.33114867
22316072 2014-10-01 09:51:14 Credit Unconfirmed    733309(Block) 6.30415787 (YAC)
22316020 2014-10-01 09:49:14 Credit Unconfirmed    733308 6.19066049
22315981 2014-10-01 09:45:15 Credit Unconfirmed    733306 8.06108196
22315940 2014-10-01 09:43:14 Credit Unconfirmed    733305 5.85000185
22315892 2014-10-01 09:39:16 Credit Unconfirmed    733302 4.84135920
22315857 2014-10-01 09:35:21 Credit Unconfirmed    733298 5.09200481
22315840 2014-10-01 09:35:19 Credit Unconfirmed    733297 9.21624784
22315824 2014-10-01 09:35:17 Credit Unconfirmed    733296 6.36020314
22315804 2014-10-01 09:35:15 Credit Unconfirmed    733295 6.64838603
22315780 2014-10-01 09:33:19 Credit Unconfirmed    733293 5.27050720
22315753 2014-10-01 09:33:17 Credit Unconfirmed    733292 4.07729032
22315722 2014-10-01 09:33:15 Credit Unconfirmed    733290 4.23483488
22315692 2014-10-01 09:31:17 Credit Unconfirmed    733289 7.39757501
22315647 2014-10-01 09:31:15 Credit Unconfirmed    733287 6.29055092
22315609 2014-10-01 09:27:27 Credit Unconfirmed    733285 7.74286435
22315577 2014-10-01 09:27:20 Credit Unconfirmed    733284 2.87797119
22315542 2014-10-01 09:27:18 Credit Unconfirmed    733283 4.13941994
22315511 2014-10-01 09:25:15 Credit Unconfirmed    733281 4.72250791
22315479 2014-10-01 09:23:17 Credit Unconfirmed    733280 8.85505025

I know now your hashrate (your miner showed hash rate) and I know my hashrate so I can do some kind of estimate if you have too low reward.

What is your accepted and invalids typically (%) bottom of dashboard?
sr. member
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October 01, 2014, 03:55:15 AM
4x 340 hash/s should give true 1200 hash/s (work utility)

so you guys tell me what to expect with 1.2 khash/s in yac per day ...

imo about 1300 to 1500 yac

my confirmed and unconfirmed after exactly 24h was about 650 yac

I'm now into 37 hours and it doesn't look to catch up at all.

PS:
in the past such calculations worked out just fine (n14 + n15)
sr. member
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October 01, 2014, 03:38:01 AM
I canceled pool payouts and add confirmed and unconfirmed ...
Qxw
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October 01, 2014, 03:14:07 AM
I just tried mining for a day on yac.coinmine.pl

with 4x R7 240 4 GB.

each card hashes at about 340 h/s.

The problem is all the values of the miner are 0 and most values of the pool are very inaccurate.
Probably due to the fact that anything below 1 khash is rounded or not shown.


Do not mind pool statistics numbers as hashing speed or estimated reward.


What matter is amount of YAC you get to your account.

 (Note also 520 confirmation delay, nearly 9  hours)

Can you tell amount of coins what you get per hour?

Or example what is unconfirmed total amount after 9 hours of mining. 
sr. member
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October 01, 2014, 02:23:02 AM
I just tried mining for a day on yac.coinmine.pl

with 4x R7 240 4 GB.

each card hashes at about 340 h/s.

The problem is all the values of the miner are 0 and most values of the pool are very inaccurate.
Probably due to the fact that anything below 1 khash is rounded or not shown.

Also the payout is even below half of what you would normally expect with these 4 gpus.

I mine since nfactor 14/15 with these cards and in the past everything worked out as expected.
But the values you would expect since n 16 are totally off.

I'm pretty sure my settings for the gpus are correct just in case here is the bat:

yacminer.exe --scrypt-chacha -d 0,1,2,3 --buffer-size 3480 --no-submit-stale -w 64 -g 1 --rawintensity 1280 --lookup-gap 6 -o stratum+tcp://yac.coinmine.pl:9088 -u GrimVandal.yac -p yac --gpu-engine 1100,1100,1100,1100 --gpu-memclock 1000,1000,1000,1000

sr. member
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September 30, 2014, 05:15:36 PM
Hi Joe,

Honestly the build date is more annoying to me... Wink

Either way, this function was changed in Bitcoin.

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/4065
I see, reading down in that link ...
Quote
...
 laanwj commented on May 6

Yesterday on IRC we had a discussion about this and it was decided to remove the 'number of blocks of peers' display completely.
It is unreliable information and not needed for progress reporting - the progress estimate based on block times is used for that.
...

So on May 6th of this year, 2014, Wladimir decided to dump it!  After ~5 years!  Ah, great minds think alike Grin

The build date is in version.cpp  If you undef #define GIT_ARCHIVE 1 then you will get your compile date IIRC?

(tips may be placed in the hat on the floor Smiley )

Ron
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GCVMMWH
September 30, 2014, 09:02:51 AM
Honestly the build date is more annoying to me... Wink

Either way, this function was changed in Bitcoin.

https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/4065
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September 30, 2014, 12:45:47 AM
I'm looking to add to our team of core programmers. There is much to be done for 0.4.5. Anyone is welcome! Send me a PM or "apply" in this thread. Better yet, submit a pull on github Wink

I unfortunately have very little programming knowledge - but I would be more then willing to help beta-test any new versions or updates.  Smiley

Something else I noticed in 0.4.4 that maybe we could correct in 0.4.5; it seems that the 'estimated total blocks' and 'last block time' in the debug window might not be right.  Below is a screenshot of my debug window.  The client is fully synced and has been running for a few days.



OK thanks for offering to help test. The estimated total blocks just shows the last checkpoint in the code, so I will change it to show current block if greater than last checkpoint.

Hello Joe et al,

I believe the code for that element is problematic in lots of other coins, including bitcoin.  Looking at rpcconsole.ui the line is row 11, known as "totalBlocks". Now looking at rpcconsole.cpp function
Code:
void RPCConsole::setNumBlocks(int count, int countOfPeers)
{
    ui->numberOfBlocks->setText(QString::number(count));
    ui->totalBlocks->setText(QString::number(countOfPeers));
    if(clientModel)
    {
        // If there is no current number available display N/A instead of 0, which can't ever be true
        ui->totalBlocks->setText(clientModel->getNumBlocksOfPeers() == 0 ? tr("N/A") : QString::number(clientModel->getNumBlocksOfPeers()));
        ui->lastBlockTime->setText(clientModel->getLastBlockDate().toString());
    }
}

seems to set ui->totalBlocks to countOfPeers and then to getNumBlocksOfPeers()
and in main.cpp I see the function
Code:
// Return maximum amount of blocks that other nodes claim to have
int GetNumBlocksOfPeers()
{
    return std::max(cPeerBlockCounts.median(), Checkpoints::GetTotalBlocksEstimate());
}
Which is the maximum of whatever those two items are Huh

I think there is some (a lot) of cruft in the bitcoind and bitcoin-qt source code that *coin "cloners" just keep carrying along and pretty soon (it's been 5 years of bitcoin now) no one will know what or why some code exists Grin

I don't think the original bitcoin had any notion of checkpoints, so I don't know when this code came in?

I vote to fix the labels in rpcconsole.ui, rename the code in rpcconsole.cpp (and rpcconsole.h too) and in main.cpp to reflect whatever that element really is!!  Or just delete all of it!!!(lol)

Ron
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September 29, 2014, 09:26:26 AM
Why not just change the label?  If that's what it is, then label it as such!
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GCVMMWH
September 29, 2014, 09:17:07 AM
I'm looking to add to our team of core programmers. There is much to be done for 0.4.5. Anyone is welcome! Send me a PM or "apply" in this thread. Better yet, submit a pull on github Wink

I unfortunately have very little programming knowledge - but I would be more then willing to help beta-test any new versions or updates.  Smiley

Something else I noticed in 0.4.4 that maybe we could correct in 0.4.5; it seems that the 'estimated total blocks' and 'last block time' in the debug window might not be right.  Below is a screenshot of my debug window.  The client is fully synced and has been running for a few days.



OK thanks for offering to help test. The estimated total blocks just shows the last checkpoint in the code, so I will change it to show current block if greater than last checkpoint.
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September 28, 2014, 08:09:42 AM
I'm looking to add to our team of core programmers. There is much to be done for 0.4.5. Anyone is welcome! Send me a PM or "apply" in this thread. Better yet, submit a pull on github Wink

I unfortunately have very little programming knowledge - but I would be more then willing to help beta-test any new versions or updates.  Smiley

Something else I noticed in 0.4.4 that maybe we could correct in 0.4.5; it seems that the 'estimated total blocks' and 'last block time' in the debug window might not be right.  Below is a screenshot of my debug window.  The client is fully synced and has been running for a few days.

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September 27, 2014, 05:26:51 PM
Hi all!

I'm just arrived to YAC.

I've been minng datacoin months ago and now I'm interested in this coin, cpu mining.

What pool do you recommend?

Thank you!


I suggest
http://yac.m-s-t.org/   or
http://yac.tumblingblock.com/

Main reason why I "exercise"  with Bter is that Bter have also direct YAC exchnage to fiat money. YAC <-> CNY (RMB) and of course then direct fast transfer/deposit to bank account. (because some times I visit in China)


I suggest people stay away BTER since they stole thousands of dollars from me and all... look at the link in my signature line.

I think www.crypto-trade.com would be nice to get on. Please support YACoin, and vote for it!
Qxw
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September 27, 2014, 10:06:17 AM
If someone use Bter exchange and you have old YAC deposit address, it is good to check if it have changed!
Around bit over 2 weeks ago I have used Bter (because Cryptsy problems this time)
Nearly every time I need communicate with Bter (using ticket) that where are my coins. All times they answer quite fast and always then (perhaps manually) they move coins to my Bter balance. After then I ask that they need fix this problem and Bter tell that they are allready working with it and it looks that they have done it.  But it was not nice to wait this ticket handling (in my case it was fast))

Yesterday I move some amount of YAC to Bter and, (good luck) before I make transfer I check my deposit address for sure that it is ok.  Surprice, without any notice there was new deposit address and I did not ask new.

First I send small amount (need be over 10YAC)  for check.  It looks like they have repaired something and deposit work now fast without any extra delay. After then I made 3 times agen normal bigger amount deposit and every time it works now ok and fast.

Just, please check if also your deposit address have changed if you have previously used Bter and you may have old deposit address in your wallet address book.

Main reason why I "exercise"  with Bter is that Bter have also direct YAC exchnage to fiat money. YAC <-> CNY (RMB) and of course then direct fast transfer/deposit to bank account. (because some times I visit in China)
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September 27, 2014, 03:47:49 AM
Hi all!

I'm just arrived to YAC.

I've been minng datacoin months ago and now I'm interested in this coin, cpu mining.

What pool do you recommend?

Thank you!
sr. member
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September 25, 2014, 04:16:56 PM
I wonder if there is so much solo miners?

Yes.


Example I do not want solo mine (and also not know exactly how to do it)  with my poor average 2.8kh/s hash power (only this amount I can use for YAC because my R9 280x rigs really are not at all for N16 (they can but N16 is really not for these radeons)

How can find p2p nodes? In YAC coin information side and here page one many links are obsolete.
It is not good for coin in long run if it is some kind of "insiders club". Informatrion need be updated.

Setting up solo mining is not particularly difficult.  Getting the actual miner up and running is the hard part, and you've already got that covered.  If you're running the YAC wallet too, then you're 95% of the way there.  With 2.8kh/s, there's not much reason to be afraid of solo mining.  Pools are useful when your hash rate is low enough that you'll rarely mine a block on your own or can't take the risk of a long dry spell due to variability, but at 2.8kh/s and the current difficulty of 0.0012, you're likely to average about 30 minutes per block found.

After the last N change, I cranked back up quite a few otherwise-idle blade servers CPU mining YAC to keep things moving along after a lot of GPU miners stopped mining and to shift the balance of hash rate away from certain pools having too large a share of the overall hash rate.  So, at least some portion of the apparently large non-pool hash rate is me solo mining at the moment.  Thirtybird is probably another good chunk of it.  Granted, I'm mining at a loss (in terms of power cost), but I'll probably leave it going for the winter for a little extra heat in the building the servers live in.
Qxw
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September 25, 2014, 11:39:27 AM
There's yac.coinmine.pl, yac.m-s-t.org and I've heard there's a new one called tumblingblock but I haven't tried it.

Solo mining is where I'm at right now - there's no shame or fear there.  If you don't know how to do it, google "solo mine dogecoin" or "solo mine litecoin" or "solo mine any coin" - the instructions are all nearly the same.

links are obsolete because people come and go - the coin is nearly 1.5 years old now.  If you want to start a P2P mining ring, go for it, but I don't think that idea has ever really lasted long

your comment about an "insiders club" makes me laugh - you realize we _WANT_ people to mine YAC, right?  That's kind of the point... Jumping to conclusions and spreading FUD is not warranted.

European pool? - Silly me - I always assumed Poland was in Europe?  When did it move?


Yes I know Poland is in europe.also I 'm in europe. But some reason I have been over 90ms ping to yac.coinmine.pl  ( I do not know why and did not anymore remember traceroute) I have cheked ping many times and same reult.  But now I have checked agen, and what surprice: 0.233 ms, 0.247 ms, 0.253 ms, 0.264 ms
Of course there is small possible that I have previously made some mistake and mixed some things...

In my situation solo mining with 2 GPU rigs and 2 CPU is not very good idea and I will stay very well working yac.coinmine.pl

But I have checked all these pools you listed. Just ago: Tumbling 0 h/s; yac.coinmine.pl around ~20kh/s; yac.m-s-t.org around 15kh/s
Network around 115kh/s

So out from these pools come something like >70kh/s   and this put me thinking that if there is some other pool what is not well known.
Of course there may be solo miners but around 70%  of hash rate from solo miners souds some amount strange in this case but of course well possible.

So I just made question if there is some p2p pool what is not well informed.

Sorry, I know well where is Poland Wink  Perhaps this was some amount loosy  "Where are european pools (p2p or others)."  I was thinking specially p2p pools but after I edited my text... 

In history (tens of years ago)  I have listened lot of Radio Poland on short waves. (in this time was not any kind of internet and important fast "email" communication method was telex and later telefax also)


I believe YAC  is part of future.   Imho Also ASIC  business (or some near future technology things)  do not easy destroy this.

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September 25, 2014, 10:23:35 AM
There's yac.coinmine.pl, yac.m-s-t.org and I've heard there's a new one called tumblingblock but I haven't tried it.

Solo mining is where I'm at right now - there's no shame or fear there.  If you don't know how to do it, google "solo mine dogecoin" or "solo mine litecoin" or "solo mine any coin" - the instructions are all nearly the same.

links are obsolete because people come and go - the coin is nearly 1.5 years old now.  If you want to start a P2P mining ring, go for it, but I don't think that idea has ever really lasted long

your comment about an "insiders club" makes me laugh - you realize we _WANT_ people to mine YAC, right?  That's kind of the point... Jumping to conclusions and spreading FUD is not warranted.

European pool? - Silly me - I always assumed Poland was in Europe?  When did it move?
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