Topic: [ANN][ZEN] Horizen: Unbounded By Design - page 156. (Read 217252 times)

Zencash hits china
https://twitter.com/zencashofficial

i disagree.  I think they can and are making a good product. as good as most others at least.  this entire space is still long term, it's all in its infancy.  if anything it appears the "makers" here might be missing the money side and marketing side powerhouses they need to compete.  it's still early enough that i don't see it as a failure yet, but it is worth noting.

they use "long term" to explain their incapacity to compete with other private coins IMO. It was the best project out there but they dont have the team (atm) to make it happen fast enough IMO. People lose interest quickly in the cryptoworld.

Of course you can be optimistic about it and refuse to see the problems, its your money after all, you can do what ever you want.

Seems to me that some people are getting upset about the fact that the zen team has been clear that they are playing the long game.  Focusing the vast majority of efforts on the long term tech CAN potentially have a huge payoff.  But only if the more vocal, well known, established and marketed coins don't offer anything even close in competition to kill you off as the vastly better marketed coin will win the market share unless it's trash because most people do not understand/or care enough about the tech to see why zen is/will/can be better.  They hear privacy coin and think they're all the same. while hardcore users may know the differences that barely worth mentioning when it comes to any total market. There are even plenty of people who are fairly well versed in this scene who haven't even heard of zen. Roger Ver and CNBC are perfect examples of this.  They both aggressively spew complete garbage all day and tons of people lap it up.

The big boat for the previous stage of awareness, user growth and $$$$ increase was missed.  that is a fact.  right now there are only some smaller tug boats in this market per say. the bullish euphoria around the end of last year was an opportunity zen did not capitalize on for a few reasons.  Some clear to everyone and maybe some only the devs know.  I feel as though those opportunities are important to take advantage of because the pace of growth and leadership leap frogging is near unprecedented.  It all counts. this year will be very different then last and 2019 will be that much different again.

We are now stuck in a corrective phase for the entirety of the crypto market.  Therefore any good news might as well be no news and any great news might as well be only good news etc.  It is wisest to market and explain your product when the audience is starving for it.  Right now not many are even hungry.  You could drop some "zen will be on binance" news right now and it's effects would be drastically lower than just a month ago when people were desperately wanting news.  Hopefully bullish spirits get flowing again before there is any great news and hopefully all that happens before governments make this even harder for the masses to understand/like/adopt.

Coming back around. "people are getting upset about the fact that the zen team has been clear that they are playing the long game".
This is something that could potentially not be an issue and work out great, but the fact is this could be an issue down the road that simply was avoidable in the first place.  I hope this "white night" stuff doesn't come down to being naivety that slowly hinders the project.  I'd argue the transparent, do right, long term tech plan is solid but there needs to be an entirely new attack vector for short term growth and awareness at all times. The competition is out there aggressively scheming, paying and in some case straight up lying to beat you.  Most people can and will never see through that unless you counter it.

poorly formatted, i know. I just rambled as i thought.  just some things that popped into my head from a decade+ portfolio manager experience.

Please share with us why do you think so? Why is Zen doomed?

Secure nodes are not the same as master nodes and almost everything is different in this case. Secure nodes establishing full encrypted network comunication between wallets - nodes and nodes to nodes. This number matters, and we are realy suprised with such interest for nodes. ZenCash has best and most secure network at the moment.
https://blog.zensystem.io/secure-nodes-why-are-they-important/

The ZenCash and IOHK partnership will entail an exciting series of research and development led by Prof. Roman Oliynykov, a cryptographer, IT security researcher, lecturer, and IOHK Research Fellow.
https://blog.zensystem.io/zencash-rd-partnership-with-iohk-and-goals-for-2018-video/

We are working on listing on various exchanges.

Everyday something new happening, we have ongoing Twitter campaign, from time to time small bounty programs and if you follow us on Discord you can get instant informations.

I would rather say that this is just the beginning.

Have a great time ! 

BTW, we have a 2-day Blockchain Weekend event here in Georgia tomorrow and the day after tomorrow: https://www.facebook.com/events/147701729278083/

ZenCash will be featured in the "privacy coins" presentation along with Monero, Zcash and Dash.

There will be a livestream on event's page but the event is in Georgian language with no translation.

numbers of nodes doesn't mean anything and I know a lot of shitcoins with bigger communities, a lot bigger. If those are your arguments then Zencash is doomed.

miningpoolhub.com does very well, FYI.

It is on par to whattomine.com projections. Tested suprnova, zenmine and miningspeed before it and miningpoolhub.com turned out to be the best one.

Zendentity: Blockchain Based Digital Signatures


https://www.eventbrite.hk/e/zendentity-blockchain-based-digital-signatures-tickets-42556898830

Missed the biweekly? Checkout summary slides:



https://blog.zensystem.io/1370-2/

The Road Ahead for ZenCash




https://btcmanager.com/road-ahead-zencash/

As I said two posts earlier, it's only zenmine.pro which has that issue, as far as I can tell. Maybe you could try anther pool, like zen.catspool.org as well and give another smaller pool a try?

I'm mining with another care, but maybe you can find some answers in this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1691798.20

anyone here mining with 750ti?

can you share me your hashrates

I understand suprnova has most of the hashrate, however I just didn't seem to get as much mining on zenmine.pro, even though it had zero fees at the time.

Now it might just be variation since it was a smaller pool, however I did mine for close to a week on zenmine and still it didn't match payouts from suprnova. Do your own tests but this is one of the reasons I'm happy with the larger pools.

I didn’t read an announcement here but wanted to say thank you for the recent payouts to all eligible secure nodes. Never doubted that you guys would solve the challenge.
I also believe that the payments for the days where challenges were not properly working were fairly solved!

I was at zenmine for about three days and a week at luckpool before. Now I'm already a few days at zen.catspool.org and it's the first pool I found with 0% fees, a nice overview chart and no downtimes on the miners or front-end at all. Also, as I said, my hashrate was reduced about 10% at zenmine.pro compared to any other pool I have tried yet.