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legendary
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December 16, 2017, 12:57:36 PM
Our CIS community is very active, secure node article translated to Russian  Smiley
These guys rock, the main secure node payment article already tranlated in Russian
 https://rucrypto.com/monety/zencash-zapuskaet-zashhishhennye-uzly-dlya-obespecheniya-konfidencialnosti-tranzakcij-polzovatelej.html , the second one in works
legendary
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December 16, 2017, 12:54:34 PM
BTC
Thanks for putting thought into your response, we will evaluate it carefully and adjust our strategy where it's needed. Yes, our marketing has just ramped up and it will take a little time to build up. We have so much ahead of us in 2018, we will be sure to communicate that to the outside world. In the meantime, I will post all media mentions in this board as they are released and will update on our marketing efforts. You can also do help on your own and bring it to the community.
Join our discord #marketing channel and provide your products there.
Thank you for being a zen super fan!
You can contribute at any time.
member
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December 16, 2017, 08:06:58 AM
member
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December 16, 2017, 07:42:01 AM
i'm investing this coin !  Cool Cool Cool

 I bought my brother ZenCash for Christmas and think  it can be far more valuable than any other gift
legendary
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December 16, 2017, 07:28:24 AM
Could someone tell me how much estimate payout per secure node?
Here is calculator -> https://zen.lebre.net/  

Statistics and number of nodes online curently-> https://securenodes.eu.zensystem.io/
(Estimated ZEN Earnings (Zen/Node/Day) 0.07)
member
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December 16, 2017, 05:36:42 AM
Could someone tell me how much estimate payout per secure node?
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TOKPIE
December 16, 2017, 03:52:15 AM
ZenCash: The Privacy Coin on a Mission to Restore Your Sense of Self

http://eduncovered.com/zencash-privacy-coin-mission-restore-sense-self-2017-12-14
legendary
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December 16, 2017, 02:14:02 AM
The ZenCash newsletter is going out bi-weekly, if you don't receive them sign up for them on zencash.com -->  Check out this week's highlights, and subscribe to our mailing list #zencash #zen #community #highlights #zengive http://eepurl.com/ddMbe9
legendary
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December 16, 2017, 12:54:10 AM
Fun interview with Ascent Trading #StocksAfterDark chatting about #ZenCash, decentralization, and a bit of philosophy:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/209624493
legendary
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full member
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Migranet ITO
December 15, 2017, 04:21:59 PM
Great to know that secure Nodes beta with payments was released today! Any difference in the setup of a secure node now?
Not really. Only thing is you don't need to connect to testnet if you don't want to.

Ok, great! So the guide is still up to date on how to setup a secure node. Having 2500 is good, but it could be increased if more than 3.5% was distributed to them (maybe something closer to Dash's masternode).
legendary
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December 15, 2017, 04:13:35 PM
Great to know that secure Nodes beta with payments was released today! Any difference in the setup of a secure node now?
Not really. Only thing is you don't need to connect to testnet if you don't want to.
full member
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December 15, 2017, 04:10:49 PM
Every time the price is trying to move up someone dumps it down again. Is there someone trying to keep zen down maybe?

Yes this somebody has a name "no marketing" and not smart % for secure nodes... too many % for miners (88%), too small for secure nodes (3,5%).
Dash is sucessfll and have 45%/45% so zen also should change it - min 10% for secure nodes should be to be stable and profitable for longer time. Now probably is too many miners which dump coins fast after mining.

If i can suggest something to zencash. Change white paper asap.
- miners 70% (18% less then now)
- secure nodes  15% (11,5% more then now)
- marketing 6,5 (6,5% more then now because in white paper there is no such thing... and this is one of the most important thing here and now to make zencash more popular!)
PBC could change zencash price 300%-400%... and zencash team alone can't change price since very long time - even secure nodes (so one of the biggest news/change for each coin) are on mainnet... because there are no marketers/smart marketers in the team Sad  That's why it is the most important to make % only for marketing. (in the future there should be also few % for bulding tools for secure nodes to go to mainstream with zencash)

It the end then zencash will be much more stable, safe and value will be much higher then now. Marketing gives value to the coin, then also it will be more profitable for miners and secure nodes... zencash will be more popular and budget for marketing will be also higher each month  (popularity, coin value, profit for miners, secure nodes will rise)

ps. i am miner and i have also coins prepaired for secure nodes

let me guess, you have nodes but you don't mine right? Cheesy

I have a few secure nodes and I also mine but I have to agree with him, secure node's rewards are insanly low considering the trouble and fees involved.

Whay not leave the node trouble to individuals who are up for the chalange ?

challenge ? rofl
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Migranet ITO
December 15, 2017, 04:04:16 PM

It's great to see you are passionate about ZenCash! Secure Nodes beta with payments was released today! Very exciting! Payment structures are not set on stone. We will be able to evaluate payment structures in the future. Although we’ve made significant progress in delivering the features listed on the white paper, we are still a development project.  Our stance is to delivery rapidly and iterate. This is true for development and marketing.

As you know, we are working to build a truly decentralized and fair voting system. We believe the zen voting system will be the standard for voting systems around the globe (crypto and other industries). So in short, let’s deliver the system then work on iterating it. We cannot do everything all at once, no one can do that

Regarding marketing. As you are probably aware our price jumped recently. This allowed us to have additional budget for marketing. Incredible, right? So, as such, we’ve ramped up our marketing efforts by doing the following:

Secure Node campaign - you’ve probably seen graphics on social media.
Advertisement campaign - just got funds to do this, so we are trying it out and see what will need to adjust for the future, we are hitting big crypto news media
Newsletter is now going out 2x week.
Soft rebranding and campaign around it
Website redesign
Increased activity on Reddit
Marketing board for our different country leads
Campaign very time we have a feature release
Looking for more graphic designers. Are you one? Show us what you’ve got.
Attend conferences: in only 7 months of being a project we’ve gone to over 6+ conferences. We have the opportunity to speak at conferences
Sponsored different events from meetups, VR games, art events
Articles: we are on mainstream articles and blog posts
Charity: Mexico earthquake victims by the Crypto Show, Bitgive recently
Bi-weekly video and chats - every 2 weeks anyone can ask the team questions live. We provide status and take questions.(edited)
In summary, we are slowly building marketing now that we have more funds, remember we didn’t ICO and didn’t have millions of dollars upfront.

https://blog.zensystem.io/charitable-assistance-for-mexico-earthquake-victims-by-the-crypto-show-funding-assistance-from-zencash/
Zen sponsored event, mixing crypto and art.
https://steemit.com/zencash/@itsmee.bosslady/epic-decentralized-crypto-art-shows
We've been active on major social media channels.
We have a secure node campaign ongoing.
We slowly building our marketing strategy, and already many people recognizing Zen as potential leader in this field. The market will reflect that one day, we hope. This team is focused on delivery features not just talking about it. We know there is a balance between talking and doing, and that is what we are striving to achieve.

Regarding your forum post: the team is behind but we will review all forum posts.

Finally, this is a community project. If you want to fix something do it. You will get noticed and become a leader in the community.

Great to know that secure Nodes beta with payments was released today! Any difference in the setup of a secure node now?
legendary
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December 15, 2017, 03:54:29 PM

It's great to see you are passionate about ZenCash! Secure Nodes beta with payments was released today! Very exciting! Payment structures are not set on stone. We will be able to evaluate payment structures in the future. Although we’ve made significant progress in delivering the features listed on the white paper, we are still a development project.  Our stance is to delivery rapidly and iterate. This is true for development and marketing.

As you know, we are working to build a truly decentralized and fair voting system. We believe the zen voting system will be the standard for voting systems around the globe (crypto and other industries). So in short, let’s deliver the system then work on iterating it. We cannot do everything all at once, no one can do that

Regarding marketing. As you are probably aware our price jumped recently. This allowed us to have additional budget for marketing. Incredible, right? So, as such, we’ve ramped up our marketing efforts by doing the following:

Secure Node campaign - you’ve probably seen graphics on social media.
Advertisement campaign - just got funds to do this, so we are trying it out and see what will need to adjust for the future, we are hitting big crypto news media
Newsletter is now going out 2x week.
Soft rebranding and campaign around it
Website redesign
Increased activity on Reddit
Marketing board for our different country leads
Campaign very time we have a feature release
Looking for more graphic designers. Are you one? Show us what you’ve got.
Attend conferences: in only 7 months of being a project we’ve gone to over 6+ conferences. We have the opportunity to speak at conferences
Sponsored different events from meetups, VR games, art events
Articles: we are on mainstream articles and blog posts
Charity: Mexico earthquake victims by the Crypto Show, Bitgive recently
Bi-weekly video and chats - every 2 weeks anyone can ask the team questions live. We provide status and take questions.(edited)
In summary, we are slowly building marketing now that we have more funds, remember we didn’t ICO and didn’t have millions of dollars upfront.

https://blog.zensystem.io/charitable-assistance-for-mexico-earthquake-victims-by-the-crypto-show-funding-assistance-from-zencash/
Zen sponsored event, mixing crypto and art.
https://steemit.com/zencash/@itsmee.bosslady/epic-decentralized-crypto-art-shows
We've been active on major social media channels.
We have a secure node campaign ongoing.
We slowly building our marketing strategy, and already many people recognizing Zen as potential leader in this field. The market will reflect that one day, we hope. This team is focused on delivery features not just talking about it. We know there is a balance between talking and doing, and that is what we are striving to achieve.

Regarding your forum post: the team is behind but we will review all forum posts.

Finally, this is a community project. If you want to fix something do it. You will get noticed and become a leader in the community.
full member
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December 15, 2017, 03:48:18 PM
are you somehow connected with the project ZenMate?
member
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December 15, 2017, 03:07:49 PM
how many secure nodes do you guys expect in a few months? right now is about 2000. im thinking 5000-6000 in 6 months?

its actually 3529 right now.

I would predict we would reach 5000 in 1 month or 2.
The rewards would drop to 30-45$ per month if the price stays the same. I doubt it will ever reach high rewards for having secure node and it seems this is not the idea behind the secure nodes anyway.
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December 15, 2017, 01:18:52 PM

let me guess, you have nodes but you don't mine right? Cheesy

i wrote in previous message that i am miner (mainly) and also i have coins prepaired for secure nodes... i'd like that zencash be like dash or even better coin, thats why i write where i see problems and noot good decisions.

Dash has 45% to miners/ 45% to masternodes. People who invest in masternodes (secure nodes) usually invest long term... with miners it depends but because of for navidia cards zencash is profitable then many use this coin only to make $ fast (so mine and sell zencash asap = problem with all the time dumps). Zencash should be still profitable for mining but take some % from mining and give it to secure nodes and marketing is the smartest thing to do now.

3,5% for secure nodes is joke and not good idea because coins invested in secure nodes are "off" the market and it is good for zencash to have many and stable secure nodes also because of this /not only to secure network (less coins for sell, easier to increase zencash price)


Every time the price is trying to move up someone dumps it down again. Is there someone trying to keep zen down maybe?

Yes this somebody has a name "no marketing" and not smart % for secure nodes... too many % for miners (88%), too small for secure nodes (3,5%).
Dash is sucessfll and have 45%/45% so zen also should change it - min 10% for secure nodes should be to be stable and profitable for longer time. Now probably is too many miners which dump coins fast after mining.

If i can suggest something to zencash. Change white paper asap.
- miners 70% (18% less then now)
- secure nodes  15% (11,5% more then now)
- marketing 6,5 (6,5% more then now because in white paper there is no such thing... and this is one of the most important thing here and now to make zencash more popular!)
PBC could change zencash price 300%-400%... and zencash team alone can't change price since very long time - even secure nodes (so one of the biggest news/change for each coin) are on mainnet... because there are no marketers/smart marketers in the team Sad  That's why it is the most important to make % only for marketing. (in the future there should be also few % for bulding tools for secure nodes to go to mainstream with zencash)

It the end then zencash will be much more stable, safe and value will be much higher then now. Marketing gives value to the coin, then also it will be more profitable for miners and secure nodes... zencash will be more popular and budget for marketing will be also higher each month  (popularity, coin value, profit for miners, secure nodes will rise)

ps. i am miner and i have also coins prepaired for secure nodes
You can post your opinion here:
https://forum.zensystem.io/t/ideas-bucket/810

As i talked about this earlier this is inicional start and some things can and will be changed over time as response on feedbacks from system. All good ideas and feedbacks will be taken in consideration by the wider community.
Thanks for this post, we all want to improve this system, and we are giving our best to acomplish this, but it is too early for conclusions.

i wrote there many times (also by email to zencash), i also wanted to spend 3 months from my life working for zencash (my proposal) but nobody care there about marketing and new ideas. I am 100% sure that my ideas, smart sharing suggestions, give authority to zencash could make more vaalue for price then 10 conferences (evan i am not native english speaker). If some people will also help - we could easly catch monero, zcash and other privacy coins.

You have great team but you forgot about the most important thing - marketing, thats why now we have secure nodes and still nothing changed with price and there is no vision to change it (thats why i use my free time to write here or on your forum) Smiley

Palm Beach Confidential signal made +300-400% price for zencash (and bring many people, long term investors here)... most of the coins reach last weeks +100-300% ... zencash nothing changed! and still you did not learn anything Sad You need to have budget for marketing and use it smart because only info on your own social profiles + conferences is not enough... You need other marketing also (more effective), you have sometimes here great content... but not shared, promoted is not properly used.

See dash price and jump - PBC signal about Dash on May 25 ($140)... and second time November 20 (about $400) - see what is then from this date with price... what can make marketing with coin... we should know it also in zencash because PBC also send signal about zencash October 21... but even such great oportunity team don't want to use to make bigger marketing boom. You have no other ideas for marketing yet so why not now use such great oportunity... Zencash price can be $100 or more easly in few months if you hire few smart people for marketing team and help people to help you with marketing. Thats why i suggest to make 6,5% for marketing and each month hire additional freelancers or people interested in zencash value... to spread the world info about zencash. There are 2 people (from Kenya, Japan) on the forum who sent proposals... why not fund them 10 or other amount of zencash (pospaid for job if they reach milestones) so they can start work for zencash and our success (for team, for miners, for secure node owners).

It is really easy but you have to think about marketing now, not after next 6 months because then 50 other coins will be more powerfull and for zencash will be much harder to reach zcash, monero etc level (they do not need such active marketing now because people know such coins...zencash is yet much more less popular so need 500% more work to catch most popular coins). We need to talk about zencash everywhere, especially in social media where are thousands of people (also share there info about pbc because it is the easiest and most effective way for marketing now).

Start active marketing, share pbs signal and the price will be much higher very fast... then even will be less % for miners, still be good $$$ because price will increase. Each month will be better and better but you need synergy with effective marketing plan!

We also need new exchanges because now only bitterex is interesting (what will be with coin of something goes wrong with bittrex?). You probably have no $$$ to invest in new exchanges and also exchanges not so very interested in this coin (not so popular yet). Thats why you need to make few decisions, changes in white paper (%) and start real marketing to make zencash much more popular and known.
Next months probably will be huge for crypto, we need to be very active next months to catch top25 coins.

Good luck and if you need my help or something, i am ready!

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ps. one more idea yet... if you do not want to change 42 coins for node - maybe it will be good for everybody (zencash value) to make dynamic increase amount of coins for secure nodes. You can make very easy algo to see that in for example January 2018 each node (100% online) can make for example 1 zencash coin. Maybe will be good to take/move 50% from this reward and increase amount for secure nodes from February to 42,5, on February each 100% online secure node will make for example 2 zencash coins so from march min for secure node will be 43,5 coins etc
It will make less dumps and owners (secure nodes) still will have 50% reword to pay hosting etc. if value of coin will be higher then profit will be ok even there will be 5k nodes or more. Min requirements (number of coins only) for secure nodes will slowly grow.
newbie
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December 15, 2017, 01:14:22 PM
Every time the price is trying to move up someone dumps it down again. Is there someone trying to keep zen down maybe?

Yes this somebody has a name "no marketing" and not smart % for secure nodes... too many % for miners (88%), too small for secure nodes (3,5%).
Dash is sucessfll and have 45%/45% so zen also should change it - min 10% for secure nodes should be to be stable and profitable for longer time. Now probably is too many miners which dump coins fast after mining.

If i can suggest something to zencash. Change white paper asap.
- miners 70% (18% less then now)
- secure nodes  15% (11,5% more then now)
- marketing 6,5 (6,5% more then now because in white paper there is no such thing... and this is one of the most important thing here and now to make zencash more popular!)
PBC could change zencash price 300%-400%... and zencash team alone can't change price since very long time - even secure nodes (so one of the biggest news/change for each coin) are on mainnet... because there are no marketers/smart marketers in the team Sad  That's why it is the most important to make % only for marketing. (in the future there should be also few % for bulding tools for secure nodes to go to mainstream with zencash)

It the end then zencash will be much more stable, safe and value will be much higher then now. Marketing gives value to the coin, then also it will be more profitable for miners and secure nodes... zencash will be more popular and budget for marketing will be also higher each month  (popularity, coin value, profit for miners, secure nodes will rise)

ps. i am miner and i have also coins prepaired for secure nodes

let me guess, you have nodes but you don't mine right? Cheesy

I have a few secure nodes and I also mine but I have to agree with him, secure node's rewards are insanly low considering the trouble and fees involved.

Whay not leave the node trouble to individuals who are up for the chalange ?
newbie
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December 15, 2017, 01:07:59 PM
you have to think long term.

if Zen price triple, mining difficulty will triple too because zen is a minor coin in mining and profitability won't change much for miners.

but the numbers of node won't triple. Not only it is harder to make a node than to switch coin in mining but the pricier zen get, the harder it is to make a node.

Zen is a very good coin with more value than most but it's not even in the top 100 marketcap. Long term it's value may explode, and the node holders will benefit the most of it.
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