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Quote from: dmwardjr on July 09, 2018, 10:58:37 PM

Quote from: etoque on July 09, 2018, 10:57:25 PM

L'll say it again; Hey if they self claim total transparency Im still waiting to see their spending reports.

!!!!!Zen team is directly subject to laundering money and market manipulation with their zksnack privacy tool and dev fund reports missing!!!!!

Fair,make those reports,audits them, and I'll shut up. If not trade zen at your own risk, not compatible with KYC cause privacy and if they failed audits then trading might just stop one day or another and get delist/team get screw and its a shitting time.

On what they're working on. They don't owe us a damn thing in regards to the money they are paid AS A COMPANY. They only answer to the IRS. PERIOD.

Get a life dude.

You can take your KYC crap over to some CENTRALIZED coin. We're DECENTRALIZED + PRIVATE here buddy.

I can see now, you're not Zooko in a spoof account. He would not be stupid enough to say such crap.

here we go personnal insult when you get lack of argument/reasonning. Enjoy your ponzi with money laundering Kiss

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Quote from: etoque on July 09, 2018, 10:57:25 PM

L'll say it again; Hey if they self claim total transparency Im still waiting to see their spending reports.

!!!!!Zen team is directly subject to laundering money and market manipulation with their zksnack privacy tool and dev fund reports missing!!!!!

Fair,make those reports,audits them, and I'll shut up. If not trade zen at your own risk, not compatible with KYC cause privacy and if they failed audits then trading might just stop one day or another and get delist/team get screw and its a shitting time.

On what they're working on. They don't owe us a damn thing in regards to the money they are paid AS A COMPANY. They only answer to the IRS. PERIOD.

Get a life dude.

You can take your KYC crap over to some CENTRALIZED coin. We're DECENTRALIZED + PRIVATE here buddy.

I can see now, you're not Zooko in a spoof account. He would not be stupid enough to say such crap.

etoque

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L'll say it again; Hey if they self claim total transparency Im still waiting to see their spending reports.

!!!!!Zen team is directly subject to laundering money and market manipulation with their zksnack privacy tool and dev fund reports missing!!!!!

Fair,make those reports,audits them, and I'll shut up. If not trade zen at your own risk, not compatible with KYC cause privacy and if they failed audits then trading might just stop one day or another and get delist/team get screw and its a shitting time.

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The potential of ZEN is huge and I highly appreciate that. For me the ZEN price may increase over time if the project has more big partners and I am willing to consider the investment at this time because the supply of ZEN is very low and this investment will be my best profit. Hope the development team is doing well to get more updates in the future

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Quote from: etoque on July 09, 2018, 10:53:48 PM

Believe? Trust ? There's none,we play with money lol this is not walt disney.

I give you fact that we have no fact from core team spending perspective. how if rob and other took milion and just freaking travel the world at your cost instead of developping feature that he's so good to hype ?

I mean they publically self claim themself total transparent,so im asking,did they really are ? So far the only movement I receive from them, since I polity ask, is a ban.

Lets me doubt of their so good intention to cure the world problems, If we we're all like you or many just blindly believing we would still be into the dark age practicing sword or build a fucking basket with branch

I'm not even going to read your post. You CONTINUE to ignore the following FACTS:

I'll say AGAIN: It would be different if we all were buying stock in a company or an ICO. If that were the case, then yes, we should get quarterly reports of how they manage company funds. However, ZEN was NEVER an ICO, it was NEVER pre-mined and it was NEVER a stock. It's a damn currency AND MUCH MORE! Your bias is getting NOWHERE in this thread.

As for AUDIT: ZEN is subject to an audit at any time the Internal Revenue Service demands. ZEN is a company subject to such audits periodically. You're a useful idiot. Plain and simple.

ABOVE was your main complaint or gripe or beef; whatever you want to call it.

YOU LOSE! Plain and simple.

You simply want to point to another stupid argument because you KNOW you lost the main reason for you being BANNED.

Grin

etoque

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Believe? Trust ? There's none,we play with money lol this is not walt disney.

I give you fact that we have no fact from core team spending perspective. how if rob and other took milion and just freaking travel the world at your cost instead of developping feature that he's so good to hype ?

I mean they publically self claim themself total transparent,so im asking,did they really are ? So far the only movement I receive from them, since I polity ask, is a ban.

Lets me doubt of their so good intention to cure the world problems, If we we're all like you or many just blindly believing we would still be into the dark age practicing sword or build a fucking basket with branch.

Lol zen is subject for an audit, yeah right, just do reports like a good multi milion company would do. And this , would be total transparency.

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Quote from: etoque on July 09, 2018, 10:40:05 PM

Quote from: tinhtevn on July 09, 2018, 09:10:24 PM

Quote from: dmwardjr on July 09, 2018, 09:08:11 PM

You only have a vendetta and no logic.

ZEN is far above and beyond what ZEC will EVER be. PERIOD.

I'm not going to bother providing examples as to how ZEN will lay the ground work for many coins to aspire to. Do your own damn homework without bias.

Secure nodes, Service nodes, and more better ways to fight against replay attacks are what ZENcash has, but ZEC has not.
ZenCash has also shown promising plans to make its network really private and decentralized.

Lol they had replay attack and secure node secure absolutly nothing,its just a word lmao Zen is good to howl they are this but so far this coin have just centralized node that do nothing,don't get me wrong but Zec is largely superior to Zen since its his incubator technology, Zen team are good to copy code and ideas,I doubt they could done something as Zec bring in term of technology seing how they are good to push marketing instead of development last 1 years

and @dmwardjr nothing from what I say it bias since they can't prove anything,and also you. Only thing you saying is pure speculation,this coin gonna lead future blabla,you sell something as if its here.When its not,feature mainly develop frmo other team than zen and what is done for zen always repush(like now supernode which is a copy from 'secure'(lel seriously secure?) node) being ground to ground, if someone is biais its only you cause you want your investment succed.

edit: Btw your signature make me laugh, decentralized and freedom of speech is two thing missing to zen

And we're supposed to believe the smack you're selling. I "BELIEVE" and "TRUST" my former veterans a hell of a lot more than I do you, sir.

Everything you're saying is bla, bla, bla...

Also, the 51% attack will be much more difficult to implement. Not because of secure nodes and super nodes; but because of how they are engineering the code to prevent such things from occurring in the future. The secure and super nodes have a roll to play in that to help prevent this in the future.

Edit: THere's a difference between freedom of speech and freedom of "shilling."

I'll say AGAIN: It would be different if we all were buying stock in a company or an ICO. If that were the case, then yes, we should get quarterly reports of how they manage company funds. However, ZEN was NEVER an ICO, it was NEVER pre-mined and it was NEVER a stock. It's a damn currency AND MUCH MORE! Your bias is getting NOWHERE in this thread.

As for AUDIT: ZEN is subject to an audit at any time the Internal Revenue Service demands. ZEN is a company subject to such audits periodically. You're a useful idiot. Plain and simple.

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Quote from: tinhtevn on July 09, 2018, 09:10:24 PM

Quote from: dmwardjr on July 09, 2018, 09:08:11 PM

You only have a vendetta and no logic.

ZEN is far above and beyond what ZEC will EVER be. PERIOD.

I'm not going to bother providing examples as to how ZEN will lay the ground work for many coins to aspire to. Do your own damn homework without bias.

Secure nodes, Service nodes, and more better ways to fight against replay attacks are what ZENcash has, but ZEC has not.
ZenCash has also shown promising plans to make its network really private and decentralized.

Lol they had replay attack and secure node secure absolutly nothing,its just a word lmao Zen is good to howl they are this but so far this coin have just centralized node that do nothing,don't get me wrong but Zec is largely superior to Zen since its his incubator technology, Zen team are good to copy code and ideas,I doubt they could done something as Zec bring in term of technology seing how they are good to push marketing instead of development last 1 years

and @dmwardjr nothing from what I say it bias since they can't prove anything,and also you. Only thing you saying is pure speculation,this coin gonna lead future blabla,you sell something as if its here.When its not,feature mainly develop frmo other team than zen and what is done from zen team is always heavily delay(like now supernode which is a copy from 'secure'(lel seriously secure?) node) being ground to ground, if someone is biais its only you cause you want your investment succed.

If you want to survive to regulator and self claimed big and high your total transparency operation you better give audits of what you take from miner,so people.

edit: Btw your signature make me laugh, decentralized and freedom of speech is two thing missing to zen

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Quote from: tinhtevn on July 09, 2018, 09:10:24 PM

Quote from: dmwardjr on July 09, 2018, 09:08:11 PM

You only have a vendetta and no logic.

ZEN is far above and beyond what ZEC will EVER be. PERIOD.

I'm not going to bother providing examples as to how ZEN will lay the ground work for many coins to aspire to. Do your own damn homework without bias.

Secure nodes, Service nodes, and more better ways to fight against replay attacks are what ZENcash has, but ZEC has not.
ZenCash has also shown promising plans to make its network really private and decentralized.

Agreed.

That sanctimonious shill was probably on Discord and here after I've been on Zooko's Twitter page telling him ZEN is much better than ZEC in so many ways. Could be Zooko himself in a spoof account. That was day before yesterday when I was on Zooko's Twitter page.

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Quote from: dmwardjr on July 09, 2018, 09:08:11 PM

You only have a vendetta and no logic.

ZEN is far above and beyond what ZEC will EVER be. PERIOD.

I'm not going to bother providing examples as to how ZEN will lay the ground work for many coins to aspire to. Do your own damn homework without bias.

Secure nodes, Service nodes, and more better ways to fight against replay attacks are what ZENcash has, but ZEC has not.
ZenCash has also shown promising plans to make its network really private and decentralized.

dmwardjr

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Quote from: etoque on July 09, 2018, 04:20:09 PM

Quote from: Conasse on July 09, 2018, 03:36:36 PM

Really? Care to explain to me why Zen has more nodes than Bitcoin? Or why IOHK partnered with Zen. Why the popularity in increasing over the past few months?

probably because 8.5% of block reward going through marketing and hype,paying high fee to get listed here and here and shill how zen is accepted by everyone while anyone could accept shit if they pay the price lol.

also centralized node had no utility at all except giving free money in the idea of buying more node(if this is not a ponzi..) eventually handfull of people will control all zen market

You only have a vendetta for being banned from Discord and no logic; only bias.

ZEN is far above and beyond what ZEC will EVER be. PERIOD.

I'm not going to bother providing examples as to how ZEN will lay the ground work for many coins to aspire to. Do your own damn homework without bias.

You were obviously interested in what ZEN has to offer the world and simply sought to look for ANYTHING you could find to discredit it.

Go yell at ZCash devs for not showing what they spend THEIR funds on. It's not ours. It's THEIRS. As long as ZEN does what they say it will do, then all is good. They can do whatever the hell they want to do with THEIR money as long as ZEN does what is planned.

ALSO: It would be different if we all were buying stock in a company or an ICO. If that were the case, then yes, we should get quarterly reports of how they manage company funds. However, ZEN was NEVER an ICO, it was NEVER pre-mined and it was NEVER a stock. It's a damn currency AND MUCH MORE! Your bias is getting NOWHERE in this thread.

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Quote from: etoque on July 09, 2018, 01:37:32 PM

cause they aren't paying to get 'accepted' force accepted =/= accepted, This is done to purely hype zen and make people buy at higher rate without any fundamental. Plus nobody know how much of their 8.5% dev fund they use to get 'listed' without any reports,transparency word selfclaimed is just here to hype market

In less than 1 years zen get into overhyped category shitcoin

You need help, Dude! Seriously...

Pure speculation...

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Quote from: TheHas on July 09, 2018, 05:23:05 AM

Quote from: dmwardjr on July 08, 2018, 05:58:22 AM

Couldn't have said it any better myself. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! It's common sense and you broke it down well for anyone thinking logically to understand.

Thanks yeah supporting Gpu mining makes the most sense to me! Glad you liked my post, maybe merit worthy? Wink

I'm always trying to post useful content in altcoin forums since these are the forums where its needed most!

Also the z9 mini asics put Gpu's to shame so it really isn't profitable to Gpu mine. Better off mining Eth and selling for Zencash with most Gpus.

2 merits sent.

Grin

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Quote from: etoque on July 09, 2018, 11:35:35 AM

Wow..Getting ban from their discord for genuinely asking 8.5% of dev fund audits quaterly reports

lie lie and lie plus no free of speech

take care of this one guys.

So far ''most transparent and most secure coin'' self claimed is totally bullshit,node doesn't protect or do anything for the chain/network(we see it with 51% attack) yet except being a ponzi . And transparence is just for twitter bot statistic lmao dev fund are totally hidden since +1 years and nobody ask for it when they spend so much time taking picture partying with chicks on bogota beach or dubai beach(sic,place in the world where laundering money is strongest and predominant )

I'm perfectly fine with a COMPANY [Which is how it's ran] spending there money however they deem fit AS LONG AS THEY CONTINUE TO DO WHAT"S BEST FOR THE COMPANY; in this case ZEN.

It's a hell of a lot less than ZCash and they exhibit a hell of a lot more support for the community of GPU miners than ZCash did (past tense). Also, they have a hell of a lot more to offer to the world than ZCash.

Looking forward to the coming fork away from ASIC's.

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Quote from: Conasse on July 09, 2018, 03:36:36 PM

Really? Care to explain to me why Zen has more nodes than Bitcoin? Or why IOHK partnered with Zen. Why the popularity in increasing over the past few months?

probably because 8.5% of block reward going through marketing and hype,paying high fee to get listed here and here and shill how zen is accepted by everyone while anyone could accept shit if they pay the price lol.

also centralized node had no utility at all except giving free money in the idea of buying more node(if this is not a ponzi..) eventually handfull of people will control all zen market

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Really? Care to explain to me why Zen has more nodes than Bitcoin? Or why IOHK partnered with Zen. Why the popularity in increasing over the past few months?

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Quote from: MedaR on July 03, 2018, 08:49:06 AM

Quote from: mt55 on July 03, 2018, 08:45:26 AM

Quote from: MedaR on June 27, 2018, 11:20:57 AM

Pornhub will be accepting ZenCash

MindGeek owns and operates many adult entertainment websites including Pornhub, Brazzers, and 12 other websites. People can now use ZenCash to pay for their purchases on all of these websites, including advertising-related payments for TrafficJunky and Pornhub’s traffic and advertising network.

https://blog.zencash.com/zencash-now-accepted-on-pornhub-websites/

Robert Viglione, co-founder of ZenCash, said in a statement that the payment option gives "the ability to pay for adult entertainment privately without fear of exposure."

https://www.coindesk.com/pornhub-taps-tron-zencash-crypto-payment-option/

Is this special for ZenCash or are they going to add a number of cryptocurrencies as payment method?

"Pornhub, announcing that it has begun accepting Tron (TRX) and ZenCash (ZEN) as a means of payment. With TRX and ZEN coins, consumers of adult entertainment will now be in a position of accessing premium content on Pornhub and its affiliated sites including Brazzers."
https://www.ccn.com/pornhub-will-now-take-your-tron-trx-and-zencash-zen/

I'm not sure about their plans regarding other cryptocurrencies, but this is major success for Zen adopation!

I am wondering how they make their decisions. They now accept Verge, Tron and ZenCash? Why don't they accept Monero or ZCash?

cause they aren't paying to get 'accepted' force accepted =/= accepted, This is done to purely hype zen and make people buy at higher rate without any fundamental. Plus nobody know how much of their 8.5% dev fund they use to get 'listed' without any reports,transparency word selfclaimed is just here to hype market

In less than 1 years zen get into overhyped category shitcoin

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Quote from: MedaR on July 03, 2018, 08:49:06 AM

Quote from: mt55 on July 03, 2018, 08:45:26 AM

Quote from: MedaR on June 27, 2018, 11:20:57 AM

Pornhub will be accepting ZenCash

MindGeek owns and operates many adult entertainment websites including Pornhub, Brazzers, and 12 other websites. People can now use ZenCash to pay for their purchases on all of these websites, including advertising-related payments for TrafficJunky and Pornhub’s traffic and advertising network.

https://blog.zencash.com/zencash-now-accepted-on-pornhub-websites/

Robert Viglione, co-founder of ZenCash, said in a statement that the payment option gives "the ability to pay for adult entertainment privately without fear of exposure."

https://www.coindesk.com/pornhub-taps-tron-zencash-crypto-payment-option/

Is this special for ZenCash or are they going to add a number of cryptocurrencies as payment method?

"Pornhub, announcing that it has begun accepting Tron (TRX) and ZenCash (ZEN) as a means of payment. With TRX and ZEN coins, consumers of adult entertainment will now be in a position of accessing premium content on Pornhub and its affiliated sites including Brazzers."
https://www.ccn.com/pornhub-will-now-take-your-tron-trx-and-zencash-zen/

I'm not sure about their plans regarding other cryptocurrencies, but this is major success for Zen adopation!

I am wondering how they make their decisions. They now accept Verge, Tron and ZenCash? Why don't they accept Monero or ZCash?

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Quote from: dmwardjr on July 08, 2018, 05:58:22 AM

Quote from: TheHas on July 08, 2018, 04:50:33 AM

Quote from: dmwardjr on July 08, 2018, 01:03:06 AM

Have no idea but I will be very happy when ZEN forks away from ASIC's. Any news updates on a fork?

By forking away from asics, zencash will keep its traditional community base of Gpu miners engaged in the project and increase profitability for Gpu miners who will spread themselves between Gpu friendly coins.

It will also push the existing asics to other Equihash coins, thereby reducing the profitability of asics as they are competing for the same coins from the handful of projects that support asics. This should impact the hold companies like Bitmain have on mining.

All this supports the idea that Zencash should aim to be a Gpu friendly coin, and fork away from asics when possible. Gpu mining will help shift sentiment back in Zencash's favor in my opinion. I love Zencash and hope the Gpu mining community can get back behind this great project!

Couldn't have said it any better myself. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! It's common sense and you broke it down well for anyone thinking logically to understand.

I have to agree, it was a very good summary of some advantages with forking to be ASIC resistant.
The GPU community is much bigger, and the ones who have been a part of making Zencash what it is today.

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