[ANN][ZEN] ZENCASH: Permanent, Distributed, and Fully Anonymous cryptocurrency - page 112.

Rux

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Quote from: olib on March 10, 2017, 07:03:38 AM

Quote from: Rux on March 10, 2017, 06:39:39 AM

we are prepared for ZEN

ZENCASH pool

zpool.crypto.ba

port 3034

join us

On pool is miner (Zencash). What address should I use for mining while not windows wallet ?

im also interested in what address should you use for mining....

zpool.crypto.ba:3034

A L I E N

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Quote from: mishax1 on March 10, 2017, 10:55:41 AM

Quote from: zzzzzzzzzz on March 10, 2017, 09:45:32 AM

Quote from: mishax1 on March 10, 2017, 03:53:55 AM

As a BIGGER ZCL hodler, I'm very excited to buy one coin and get TWO! Cheesy

Lets pray this move won't turn zcl to trash.

At first, someone didn't like the Zcash 10% tax so they created Zclassic, now ZEN is forking with their own 8.4% tax... bravo.

The Zcash tax is 20%.

10%

per your own link: At first, 50 ZEC will be created every ten minutes. 80% of the newly created ZEC will go to the miners, and 20% ZEC to the founders.

mishax1

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Quote from: zzzzzzzzzz on March 10, 2017, 09:45:32 AM

Quote from: mishax1 on March 10, 2017, 03:53:55 AM

As a BIGGER ZCL hodler, I'm very excited to buy one coin and get TWO! Cheesy

Lets pray this move won't turn zcl to trash.

At first, someone didn't like the Zcash 10% tax so they created Zclassic, now ZEN is forking with their own 8.4% tax... bravo.

The Zcash tax is 20%.

10%

NH

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looks interesting project, watching Cool

Solovey4ik

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mining?

cardiganss

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Nice! Any promotion/bounty in your plans?

zzzzzzzzzz

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Quote from: mishax1 on March 10, 2017, 03:53:55 AM

As a BIGGER ZCL hodler, I'm very excited to buy one coin and get TWO! Cheesy

Lets pray this move won't turn zcl to trash.

At first, someone didn't like the Zcash 10% tax so they created Zclassic, now ZEN is forking with their own 8.4% tax... bravo.

The Zcash tax is 20%.

olib

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Quote from: Rux on March 10, 2017, 06:39:39 AM

we are prepared for ZEN

ZENCASH pool

zpool.crypto.ba

port 3034

join us

On pool is miner (Zencash). What address should I use for mining while not windows wallet ?

anafiene

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I think ZENCASH with nice concept
goodluck dev

Rux

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https://crypto.ba

we are prepared for ZEN

ZENCASH pool

zpool.crypto.ba

port 3034

join us

Watanabe1505

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I would like to reserve Vietnamese translation for this project. PM me for acceptance, thanks!

mishax1

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As a BIGGER ZCL hodler, I'm very excited to buy one coin and get TWO! Cheesy

Lets pray this move won't turn zcl to trash.

At first, someone didn't like the Zcash 10% tax so they created Zclassic, now ZEN is forking with their own 8.4% tax... bravo.

Ekonom

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As a big ZCL holder, I'm very excited and supportive of the move. This will provide what everybody wanted with 2 chains that was not possible with only one due to the differences in philosophy. Both have their merits.

krile

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Quote from: movrcx on March 09, 2017, 09:47:30 PM

Quote from: krile on March 09, 2017, 09:08:20 PM

Where can I find out more about this? How will this circumvent "fake" full nodes (like one node on two IPs)¿

The technical implementation isn't finalized yet, however the process for node rewards will be something like:

The node executes a shielded zero-knowledge transaction containing an unshielded payment address and the node's domain name or IP address which is valid for a certain time period.
Once per block, a random XX% sampling is taken and those nodes are checked for being operational (a random block will be requested from each and verified against the longest chain).
After a node is verified operational a non-shielded transaction will be sent to it.

There's going to be two-tiers of nodes; fully trusted and unverified. The difference with fully trusted nodes is that these nodes must have a valid TLS certificate. Getting a TLS certificate is free as long as the node has a domain name. These types of nodes will be awarded by unique root domain name (given that no IP addresses are duplicated).

Unverified nodes are nodes that do not have authentic TLS certificates and will be paid from a smaller allocation. There will be maximum limitations on how many unverified nodes can be awarded per network subnet to prevent abuse. Ultimately that threshhold will be decided by the DAO. I'd expect that a significant portion of this group would consist of botnets and such so the awards for these would be kept low.

For the most part the unverified nodes are the wild-wild west and incentivizing the fully trusted nodes is the goal.

Interesting. Eager to see your final solution play out in the field.

Do you need any help on your project?

zzzzzzzzzz

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Quote from: movrcx on March 09, 2017, 09:47:30 PM

Quote from: krile on March 09, 2017, 09:08:20 PM

Where can I find out more about this? How will this circumvent "fake" full nodes (like one node on two IPs)¿

The technical implementation isn't finalized yet, however the process for node rewards will be something like:

The node executes a shielded zero-knowledge transaction containing an unshielded payment address and the node's domain name or IP address which is valid for a certain time period.
Once per block, a random XX% sampling is taken and those nodes are checked for being operational (a random block will be requested from each and verified against the longest chain).
After a node is verified operational a non-shielded transaction will be sent to it.

There's going to be two-tiers of nodes; fully trusted and unverified. The difference with fully trusted nodes is that these nodes must have a valid TLS certificate. Getting a TLS certificate is free as long as the node has a domain name. These types of nodes will be awarded by unique root domain name (given that no IP addresses are duplicated).

Unverified nodes are nodes that do not have authentic TLS certificates and will be paid from a smaller allocation. There will be maximum limitations on how many unverified nodes can be awarded per network subnet to prevent abuse. Ultimately that threshhold will be decided by the DAO. I'd expect that a significant portion of this group would consist of botnets and such so the awards for these would be kept low.

For the most part the unverified nodes are the wild-wild west and incentivizing the fully trusted nodes is the goal.

Why even allow untrusted nodes to participate? Seems as though you're complicating the network to accommodate nodes that are most likely to cause problems. Also, since you are putting this node verification process in place, are you also going to check node versions, so we don't have nodes running year old node code? For example, the zclassic network has a seed node that's still at v1.0.1, before the critical fix for the potential fork problem. This node verification procedure seems like a perfect opportunity to prevent nodes that are too far out of date from being active on the network. Just a thought.

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Quote from: biggernugs on March 09, 2017, 08:22:42 PM

So wait, I can buy a shit ton of a coin, clone the chain and create a (new) coin, then get rich Roll Eyes

my thought xactly ,grabbing all coins atm under a certain value from bittrex $$$

movrcx

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Quote from: krile on March 09, 2017, 09:08:20 PM

Where can I find out more about this? How will this circumvent "fake" full nodes (like one node on two IPs)¿

The technical implementation isn't finalized yet, however the process for node rewards will be something like:

The node executes a shielded zero-knowledge transaction containing an unshielded payment address and the node's domain name or IP address which is valid for a certain time period.
Once per block, a random XX% sampling is taken and those nodes are checked for being operational (a random block will be requested from each and verified against the longest chain).
After a node is verified operational a non-shielded transaction will be sent to it.

There's going to be two-tiers of nodes; fully trusted and unverified. The difference with fully trusted nodes is that these nodes must have a valid TLS certificate. Getting a TLS certificate is free as long as the node has a domain name. These types of nodes will be awarded by unique root domain name (given that no IP addresses are duplicated).

Unverified nodes are nodes that do not have authentic TLS certificates and will be paid from a smaller allocation. There will be maximum limitations on how many unverified nodes can be awarded per network subnet to prevent abuse. Ultimately that threshhold will be decided by the DAO. I'd expect that a significant portion of this group would consist of botnets and such so the awards for these would be kept low.

For the most part the unverified nodes are the wild-wild west and incentivizing the fully trusted nodes is the goal.

kampretkabur

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Quote from: trinaldao on March 09, 2017, 08:51:59 PM

Quote from: movrcx on March 09, 2017, 06:23:30 PM

Quote from: samspaces on March 09, 2017, 06:10:23 PM

Why fork off of Zclassic? Why not just create Zen as a new blockchain. Now it looks like a way to pump the Zclassic price before block 100000.

Zclassic is a 1:1 match for Zcash without the founders reward. Alot of us on the team wanted to add new features and functionalities to Zclassic that would break the 1:1 parity. Zen is just an evolution of Zclassic with these new features that we wanted to put in and we're keeping Zclassic true to its 1:1 parity with Zcash.

new feature from zcalssic?? Im not see it.
this is just cloning from zcash an just remove the developer fee

So basically, its a new blockchain for a new feature? Wonder how many new blockchains in the future (and fresh free money)
Hail the fork

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Quote from: Quontoloue on March 09, 2017, 09:09:17 PM

Open bounty dev
signature campaign, facebook campaign and twitter campaign

OK, I'll bite: What is the meaning of your post?

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