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Quote from: iv4n on February 05, 2025, 02:51:19 PM

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

You don't expect anonymity from any casino you are using as long as you have filled in your detail on that casino as regard KYC upgrade. If there's an form of incident that requires user's information for conducting investigation, the casino can actually use the details submitted during KYC, to track any user down but where you expect anonymity is when you are using a casino that doesn't request for KYC or maybe they don't make it compulsory and you have not given out your details too.

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At one time, Ricardo Spagni (the main developer and ideologist of the most anonymous and confidential cryptocurrency Monero) wrote that absolute anonymity on the Internet does not exist. Moreover, the information recorded in the blockchain is stored there forever. This allows even after many years to analyze this information and de-anonymize the user.

The same applies to gambling and casinos. Your anonymity and privacy when gambling is very conditional.

However, this does not mean that you should completely abandon the desire for anonymity and privacy. If a person is a criminal, he will not be able to ensure anonymity and privacy on the network - sooner or later he will be de-anonymized and arrested.

At the same time, an honest person, in my opinion, should ensure his privacy when working on the network (in particular when interacting with online casinos). This is as natural as physical hygiene and allows you to avoid many troubles.

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Strangely, those who are regular players are surprised that there is no anonymity on the Internet? How does a casino track multiple accounts? The article, of course, describes it well, but this is not news. Their protection is constantly being modified, and I am sure that each casino has its way of tracking players. Yes, maybe they reassure players that player data remains safe and does not spread to other resources, but as for their protection, they are obliged to use anti-fraud. Otherwise, cheaters would regularly cheat casinos by registering many accounts and using their bonuses.

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There's almost no anonymity in internet, not only in crypto casino.

Let's say you use centralized exchange and you've submitted your KYC, you are no longer anonymous. This applies to people who have online marketplace, digital bank and any other sites which you've submitted your KYC.

You might achieve certain privacy level in crypto casino, but make sure you gamble on no KYC casino.

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I believe it would depend on what the platform you are doing in because they would be the ones in control of the data. Some companies are taking advantage of the data they are getting and the part where they know where they could profit from it. The best way is to use something like Polymarket, a wallet that is not connected to anything, and be more anonymous there.

We are no longer fully anonymous, and all the tools are being used now.

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When you register on a gambling site and start to provide your personal information to them there's no more anonymity for you. I've come to accept the fact about KYC and crypto casinos and I don't think that reputable casinos cares about your personal information, they collect them because of government regulations. A gambler that doesn't have any criminal intentions don't need to worry about KYC requirements in casinos, they won't bother you if they don't suspect you. KYC is borne out of necessity to combat money laundering and I can't blame casinos for requiring it, that is why it's better to gamble on reputable casinos who wouldn't use your information against you.

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The anonymity still exist in the Internet because you can use many things including VPN to hide your connection. But when you register in any sites and that site require you to do KYC, that will be the end of anonymity because you need to give your personal document to the site.

I am not think that sportsbooks and casinos spying on us because for the reputable casino, they will not do that instead will protect their member from the bad things. If you think that gambling lose its anonymity, you don't have to playing gambling and search for the other activity.

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Quote from: iv4n on February 05, 2025, 02:51:19 PM

I saw this topic today: DuckDice.io Lie about Deleting Accounts, They Ban you and Keep your Data.
It reminded me of a GosuBetting article from a few days ago: Are Sportsbooks Spying on You?. By the way, it's a very interesting article.

This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity? It's like there's only the appearance of it... Theoretically, it's possible to get around all these obstacles in some way, but that would require additional effort and probably some money.

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?

I'm not surprised at all. Of course, all the behavior and history of a person in the network are monitored. By the way, it's good that the article highlights the role of mobile apps as surveillance tools. Usually, such an application is positioned as the most user-friendly, whereas such an application is primarily the most convenient for tracking, collecting information and statistics.

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Quote from: iv4n on February 05, 2025, 02:51:19 PM

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

Do you still believe in anonymity in gambling? That’s long gone ever since governments started strictly enforcing regulations.

If the casinos you mentioned have a legit license they cannot offer anonymous gambling because they are regulated and must follow the law, otherwise they'll be penalize and loss their license.

So if you think they’re spying on us, and if that’s true, there’s nothing we can do about it. We’ve already submitted our personal information and are using our real IP addresses. Most people probably don’t even use a VPN since they don’t want to risk getting their accounts banned.

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It is hard to believe we are unrevealed but easy as saying we are anonymous just because the casino makes us feel so.

Although when it comes to crypto casinos, the level of our exposure can be limited if only the casino are reputable with their customers and the bound of our exposure is between users and the casinos without being exposed to other parties such as private entities and the regulatory authorities.

We practically can not stay anonymous free because there is always a signing of messages using the sites permissions before accessing their sites. That is a very high term of technology of programs that they won't tell you.

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In the internet world, I really doubt anonymity is still a thing. IP addresses even if you use VPN and our browsing data can be seen.
When it comes to online gambling, the same thing can be said because we are still using the internet. It's just better to pick a reputable online casino and pass your KYC and just make sure they won't do anything fishy.
Sure, we can make them follow a longer path but that will still come out on our end. That is why the safest way for anonymity up until now is cash and a computer without internet if you want to keep your cryptocurrency funds secure.

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Quote from: iv4n on February 05, 2025, 02:51:19 PM

I saw this topic today: DuckDice.io Lie about Deleting Accounts, They Ban you and Keep your Data.
It reminded me of a GosuBetting article from a few days ago: Are Sportsbooks Spying on You?. By the way, it's a very interesting article.

This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity? It's like there's only the appearance of it... Theoretically, it's possible to get around all these obstacles in some way, but that would require additional effort and probably some money.

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?

At the time or moment that you had submitted your KYC or information details then you are already exposed since that one, dont expect that they will really be that truly having no intentions in speaking about those informations that would be used in other way. Just like into real world or physical that we are already that been known or exposed because of the information that we are really that giving. How much more into these platforms that going back in the past on which i could say that they are truly anonymous and come to think that this is the main reason on why crypto gambling had that become known or popular because of this aspect but now they are gradually become centralized or being regulated on which it had resulted into these terms on which it do end up that having these KYC on which this do really sucks.Somehow we do still have platforms or casinos that doesnt have KYC.

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I think prior to 2020 you could still be anonymous in the crypto world as far as gambling goes, but once KYC started getting introduced nearly everywhere, being anonymous went out the window. Now all the governments are adding crypto regulations and licensed casino have to follow these regulations are lose their license and ability to operate.

It's all about money. I agree that paying taxes should happen, but I disagree with the % that some countries want. For example USA treats Bitcoin as a property and taxes you on capital gains. You have short term and long term gains. If you cash out your btc to fiat before holding it 1 year, you get charged the short term gains fee of 35%. If you hold it a year you only pay 15%. How fair is that? Should be a flat 15% rate max period, but greed sets in.

The only way to actually be anonymous is to play on unlicensed casinos and take the risk they don't pay you.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on February 05, 2025, 03:33:51 PM

I don't think there is anonymity in gambling, because it will require you to insert your personal information while signing for kyc and there is nothing you can do to escape it, some will even start form the way of registration, when you might have used your email address, means of identification, contact number, region or country and so on, except when we feels like rendering the accurate information about ourself is what we cant afford to do, if not they have our information with them.

Damn, what kind of anonymity can we talk about in the 21st century? Are you serious? It hasn't been like that for a long time now. And how are casinos and bookmakers different? They have such opportunities that if I were them, I would definitely start collecting information about players. I would be interested in learning as much as possible about those users who have large financial resources in order to know how to keep them on the site.

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Before 2017 we could still see many gambling that might be more concerned with anonymity without requiring KYC to be able to gamble. But now the development of sophisticated technology that encourages popular casinos to require KYC. And maybe in the future the anonymity of crypto gambling will no longer exist and casinos will always have reasons for legality. Now there are only 2 choices to continue gambling anonymously or stop gambling to maintain anonymity.

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Quote from: Die_empty on February 05, 2025, 10:27:24 PM

Even when some casinos intend to promote anonymous gambling, regulatory laws will force them to abandon such a vision.

I do not think it is a vision but a way to attract customers. The gambing site will become big and later know that they can easily be noticable to the regulators and make KYC mandatory for all their customers. This is common to crypto gambling sites.

But I still always find it strange that some people do not like KYC after we should just use small amount of money to gamble. But I recently noticed that gambling is banned in some countries but some of their citizens may still want to gamble. Because of this they prefer no KYC gambling sites. But what about their IP address? Although some gambling sites allows the use of VPN. But I prefer people from such countries not to gamble on the sites they are restricted from.

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Quote from: iv4n on February 05, 2025, 02:51:19 PM

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?

Even when some casinos intend to promote anonymous gambling, regulatory laws will force them to abandon such a vision. The spread and popularity of Anti-money laundering is making privacy a rare commodity. Even when casinos claim to be anonymous, if you read their term of service, there might be some clauses that mandate gamblers to provide personal information under certain conditions.

The bottom line is that if you want to enjoy privacy don't deposit or gamble with a big sum, and hope that you don't win big. So that you can easily abandon the gambling platform if they begin to ask for details you don't want to expose.

With the advancement in technology, the internet is simply a monitoring channel, except you have consciously put in place some blockages.

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Quote from: iv4n on February 05, 2025, 02:51:19 PM

This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity? It's like there's only the appearance of it... Theoretically, it's possible to get around all these obstacles in some way, but that would require additional effort and probably some money.

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?

Ever since the introduction of KYC for crypto casino I already accepted the fact that there’s no anonymity at all on crypto gambling. This is the price we pay for demanding a much reputable casino with license while the license provider requires KYC.

You can only achieved anonymity by playing on decentralized casino or unlicensed casino but there’s always risk involved that casino will runaway your money.

It's more of the regulatory body forcing casinos to mandate KYC for AML purpose. Initially, all we need is just a withdrawal address. Now, it's difference, specially if you won big, there are levels of KYC that this casinos are going to ask from you.

So there is no anonymity at all in crypto base online casinos, it's also the same with traditional base, you sign up with them to take advantage of the perks and giveaways by the casino itself. So it's either we understand it and accept that, or don't play online at all.

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In my opinion, anonymity is a quantitative concept. Of course, there is no absolute anonymity on the Internet. After all, all sites collect your IP address and cookies (in general, all information about your connection and browser). Your VPN can hide little. And if you are forced to go through KYC in case of winning at the casino, then you can say goodbye to your dreams of anonymity. Perhaps, prediction platforms such as Polymarket have a little more anonymity, since they are more decentralized. We can say that absolute anonymity on the Internet does not exist. We have yet to create a new anonymous and decentralized Internet and the fashion for casinos and bookmakers with a high degree of anonymity.

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Quote from: iv4n on February 05, 2025, 02:51:19 PM

I saw this topic today: DuckDice.io Lie about Deleting Accounts, They Ban you and Keep your Data.
It reminded me of a GosuBetting article from a few days ago: Are Sportsbooks Spying on You?. By the way, it's a very interesting article.

This is a very interesting thing, does this mean that there is essentially no anonymity? It's like there's only the appearance of it... Theoretically, it's possible to get around all these obstacles in some way, but that would require additional effort and probably some money.

So "are sportsbooks & casinos spying on us"? Is there anonymity in the crypto-gambling world?

With money, people with skills, AI, and other tools all this is possible... So are we lying to ourselves when we think we are anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously?

Its not just the gambling online casinos, every company basically is spying on you (or most companies) and selling your digital data to other companies as leads or just intel and its very crazy to think that is whats happening. I'm sure there are ways around a lot of that stuff but perhaps some sites would restrict your gambling if they pick up that they can't trace your IP or some ish like that.A VPN isn't enough anymore I don't think.

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