Topic: Anonymity in the crypto gambling world. Something to think about... - page 4. (Read 670 times)

Ever since the introduction of KYC for crypto casino I already accepted the fact that there’s no anonymity at all on crypto gambling. This is the price we pay for demanding a much reputable casino with license while the license provider requires KYC.

You can only achieved anonymity by playing on decentralized casino or unlicensed casino but there’s always risk involved that casino will runaway your money.

If you want to not have to deal with KYC then you just need to find the gambling website that suits you, there's a list in this forum of gambling websites that don't require you any KYC if I recall correctly, I think that you'd be doing fine going there and checking out that list. As many others have pointed out though, KYC is like a badge of honor for gambling websites to signal to people that will go on their websites and play their games that they're safe and that your funds are going to be secured no matter what happens, my solution to this kind of problem, find the one website that's got the most relaxed KYC and never use your personal email to register on their website, you can always use a different email that's not connected to you in any way, shape or form, I think that anonymity is a matter of how you deal with it because some people right now has managed to do that full anonymity with all the advancements in the cyberspace and with the controversies of government spying on their people and still managing to remain anonymous.

At the end of the day, what really matters in this context is do you care more about your privacy or your money? That's basically what this debate boils down to, do you want the anonymity or the risk that the casino will run away with your money and I think most of us have the obvious choice in this matter.

Here is the main problem:


Either you do KYC on the gambling casino platform that you wish to play on, and thereby give them your personal data and government-issued documents

OR

You gamble on a non-KYC casino and hope that such a shady, illegal platform will not steal your funds or scam you in some other way.

So really, you are at a disadvantage, no matter how you decide. You just need to decide whether anonymity is more important than security to you.

Yes, anonymity is a myth. The point is that to discover someone's identity may take a lot of effort which doesn't make sense in most cases, unless you are a very special individual who the authorities have total interest over. That is why they make special operations and efforts to track international criminals and terrorists, while the average citizen can remain anonymous on the internet without being annoyed, tracked and discovered.

The exception is when the government is thristy for tax money, so they will make sure to implement measures to restrict anonymity as much as possible, but in large scale, without paying attention to individual cases. KYC at virtual casinos and crypto exchanges is an example of that.

If you want to remain anonymous, don't call attention to yourself, so people won't have a reason to try discovering who you really are.

It's... not really a lie? I mean all they're probably doing is just marking it as inactive. Anyone whos handled data would be familiar with it and even if you weren't, then you actually should know about it. There's been a saying that ANY information you post in the internet STAYS in the internet. Delete it all you want but some trace of sorts would 100% be left there. Just a matter of how much effort it would take to retrieve it and for most centralized systems, they just keep the traces directly and tell you it was deleted. You won't know jack anyway!

Complete anonymity isn't really possible, pseudo? Yes. Gotta play on casinos with no KYC though. Specifically crypto casinos since they're basically the only ones anyway that'd let you play and pay without being able to trace it back to you

For those of us who are very into crypto where decentralization and privacy are often promoted, privacy and anonymity are significant concerns for many online gamblers and unfortunately the feeling I have is that gambling sites, be they online casinos or sportsbooks, collect and store vast amounts of player data including personal information, playing patterns, and in some cases even location data.

And there is a reason why they do this... it allows them to personalize offers, detect fraud and manage risk. Of course, while these practices can improve user experience and security, they also raise concerns about privacy and the potential for data abuse and the best way to know what they actually collect is to carefully read the terms of use and privacy legal documents that each site has.

My recommendation... stick to a few gambling sites where you will perform KYC, especially those that ask you for the minimum amount of information.

Exactly, the problem is this, KYC, and most gambling sites currently also implement it. Although there are indeed some platforms that do not, and we can choose it, sometimes, we still prefer to choose some platforms that do enforce KYC.

Is anonymity meant in this case only between fellow gambling site users? What is meant is, do they convince potential users and enforce the word "anonymous" only for the confidentiality of data from other gamblers or some people who visit the site? But that doesn't mean it's really anonymous by the developer? Because the owner still knows who the users are.

The data may be used to stay ahead of the player using different algorithms and tools to expand profits. However a high percent of gamblers don't care about anonymity, they want the big wins. While it's a concern, the KYC policy is enough reason to conclude that casinos have not anonymity; all player's activity are being traced. Not only to track who broke the rules, but to predict the gambler's next move and behavior, like how much time they spend playing a specific game.

You will always leave a trail in your internet activity; social media do this to track what encourages you what to buy and what to watch, and more so in a casino, they have sophisticated tracking tools to trace cheaters even if the cheater is good at hiding his act, so talking about anonymity in gambling, they will not let you do that, so much of their profits depend on how familiar they are with their players.
Unless you impersonate someone, you are not really anonymous.

Only a cyber security expert can be truly anonymous. There are others but this is one field I know that they can achieve full anonymity. For gamblers and people who use Bitcoin just don't argue that you are or can be anonymous.  Even when you don't submit KYC you aren't anonymous. Maybe offshore casinos can provide that anonymity for gamblers, but I don't know about it.

Since most casinos nowadays require some form of KYC verification, there is no room to talk about anonymity in the gambling world.  The same can be said for the crypto-gambling world, as most platforms are now regulated and require KYC verification.

Even if you manage to find a casino that does not require KYC verification, you are still not anonymous. Your IP address can be traced, and your transactions can be linked to you.

In short, there is no such thing as anonymity on the internet, unless you put some serious effort .

As for whether they are spying on us, I think yeah, they probably are. But its not just casinos and sportsbooks.  Lots of companies collect data about us online, and its hard to know exactly what they are doing with it.  Its like everyone's trying to figure out what we like and how to get us to do things.  Its a bit scary when you think about it.

Most casino I know of, usually require it's users to go through the kyc procedures. If such are recommend, I don't think there's any level of anonymity left to keep. The best thing is for one to use non kyc casinos, of where we know very soon is going on extinct. Our data can never be safe, so long we upload them online. Forget about those data companies tell us that they are safe and do not share their users data, most of them actually do. The fact that one's account was banned from a casino and his data still kept might be just Incase such users are to return in future or something...

Anonymity on the internet?
There's always a print especially now many are making KYC mandatory.
Keeping data makes it easy to create games or situations that would get you hook
And in the case of deleting accounts and data in their database?
I have never believed such shit. They claim alot until they are caught.

Hmm, at first glance it looked like that IESnare "scandal" was actually rather scary in terms of privacy, but really it's just a bunch of tracking cookies that will be shared across many sites that the same operator might be using - in an attempt to catch people who might be doing things like arb betting. The reality is that companies like Google do this on a much larger scale. You have to remember that most sportbook and casinos these days require KYC for any sort of sizable game play, which means they know exactly who the players are because they have access to some of the most sensitive identity documents already. It should absolutely be expected that they will be doing analysis on your gameplay with the expectation of extracting more money from you, so you do need to keep your guard up to a certain degree (like not chasing slots where the side game looks tantalizingly close to unlocking).

At the time we give them even the basic details of ourselves, we already give them some idea of who we are. It would be more if we fully verified our account by submitting our ID and other information.
At this moment, it is too hard to believe that we still remain anonymous despite saying they will take care of our personal information from others. That is why, as we comply with KYC requirements, we are aware and ready for what happens next. It is their advantage to know their client's behavior so they can take action depending on it.

I wish that situation was better but we cant have special rules only for casinos when all other website and services have more restrictions.
After using many casinos I decided that I prefer if they dont have strict registration rules and that is why I mostly use Sportsbet.io
There are few more casinos I usedin the past but I stopped using them after they confiscated my coins and demanded from me to perform verification.

I doubt if decentralized casinos guarantee gamblers anonymously because with you link in data you can still be traced, I believe the point is that we can be 100% anonymous on the Internet, since we have already leaked a lot of data online, and not only on gambling sites but all over the Internet, what the ops are saying goes beyond KYC verifications to user Internet data infos and using them the track the IP as long as the phone is in that locations. So to achieve full anonymity online one needs to put a lot of things in place to be in a better position to act right and pay every sacrifice to maintain anonymously online and on gambling sites.

As the second article clearly mentions, most people on the internet are aware of what cookies are and how they're tracking our data. The majority, if not all, websites use cookies nowadays; that's not something new. It's a little ironic to talk about anonymity when we are online and connected to the internet. Our phones only collect a ton of data; it's almost inevitable to hide your digital footprint, and even if it is possible, it requires a huge effort. With that being said, how are we expecting anonymity in the gambling world? All casinos nowadays require KYC, perhaps with a few exceptions, but I'm not familiar with those. Even Bustabit, a simple crash game, demonstrates the necessity to comply with KYC measures.

Not really anonymous especially now that most casinos have forced their way into KYC which entitles them to get your data, of course if you have the right connections you can lie to them but most people do not lie and give their real data to such entities. Once they have them it means that they can use it as they like despite they showing us their famous terms of service. I don't think there is any real anonymity in the crypto gambling world except a very few places which we should value them to the maximum since they are not forcing anything on us compared to their equivalent businesses. I guess we are lying to ourselves as being anonymous on the Internet and that we are gambling anonymously.

We are not lying to ourselves, in my opinion. It is possible, even to this day, to be anonymous on the internet and gamble anonymously, but it requires to get out of one's way in order to do so.
To begin with, I would not go for centralized casinos, not even those which are unregulated ones, if I was seeking to keep my identity secret while I gamble, registered or not any centralized entity will have access to your IP at the very minimum.

If I wanted to gamble anonymously, I would try to seek for smart contracts which are easily auditable and have enough liquidity blocked in them for me to wager whatever my gambling budget is, using a fresh new Ethereum wallet with a fresh new address, it would be pretty much 100% anonymous. Though, most gamblers cannot even audit a smart contract by themselves, so it would be a matter of trust.
Perhaps, it is better to stick to reliable and regulated casinos if we don't have to end up losing money to shady smart contracts and "decentralized" casinos.