Topic: Another Coup in Africa: What is the economic effect? - page 4. (Read 954 times)

The saying "We do not negotiate with terrorists" is well-known, but I think that after the withdrawal of the US from Afghanistan, it became completely meaningless, considering that the terrorists became good guys literally overnight. Even your president is starting to change his rhetoric a bit when he talks about possible political negotiations with a "terrorist state" when the conditions are met, referring to successes in the military field.

If we take into account the number of people who die in this war, negotiations are something that is logical and humane, but on the other hand, until the Ukrainian soldier stands on every meter of Ukraine and drives away the occupiers, we cannot say that Ukraine has succeeded.

Africa has always been exploited in the past, and this is the case even now, only Europe may not do that anymore, but Russia will take the main role - and the people who live there obviously do not understand that they must free themselves from all foreign influences if they finally want to start living as the rest of the world.

The purpose of these coups, I will separately highlight - CONTROLLED, is DESTABILIZATION. Now huge forces of the whole world are thrown to fight the new brown plague of the 21st century - Rashism. And the carriers of Rashism do not like it. Sabotage in the EU - did not pass, sanctions are pressing ... There is only one way out - it is necessary to "divert" attention, and ideally - to influence the key players in the anti-Putin coalition. For example, France. And preferably the entire EU.  I wrote about a year or two ago - expect active provocations in Africa, expect provocations and attempts to destabilize the borders of the anti-Putin coalition countries, prepare for terrorist attacks - you are dealing with an international terrorist country. But some countries have chosen the position - let's negotiate, let's sign agreements with terrorists. You cannot communicate with terrorists. But the understanding of this comes late, and now for 2--5-10 years some African countries are waiting for very difficult times....

This particular coup shows that, there is leadership failure in the country of Gabon. First during the just concluded elections, the internet space of Gabon was shutdown, just so that the deposed president Ali Bongo can easily manipulate the results and the world won't see it, because I'm sure the citizens where ready to upload those irregularities on social media.
Funny enough, the president is going for a third tenure even as he is suffering from partial stroke.
I feel the military was patiently waiting for the elections to be over before unleashing whatever they have in mind, with the hope that the president will conduct a free and fair elections.

I cannot apportion blame on France, the Gabonese leaders are the ones selling out the country to anybody, if the countries leader stand their ground and say, they won't accept some the offers been thrown at them by their colonial masters, then we won't have been here calling names.
The African continent should start fighting to make sure, they elect leaders that have the interest of their people first, before the interest of any other country.

Military coups are almost always accompanied by violence against civilians and chaos in the country. If, after a short time, the military hands power over to a civilian government that respects democratic principles, then further economic progress is quite possible. If power remains in the hands of the military, it usually turns into a military dictatorship with all the ensuing consequences. External forces are certainly at work in Gabon, and it is difficult to predict anything here. But it looks like things are going to be pretty bleak.

Honestly just as how the people manage to adapt the consequences of the Ukraine and Russia war which lead to wheat shortage supply among many other consequences, if anything should go wrong with Gabon, it will affect nothing in global economy, but before we go further in discussion on this, let's take a look at Gabon itself and it's economy values, world ranking, and the influence it gives to other countries that rely on them for sustainability, i know that this country is still a developing country, what are the reasons why we think many countries will rely on Gabon for economy sustainability even within Africa before we going to the global benefits.

I see it as the reaction of a people who are tired of being pushed to the wall. When you push people, the keep going back until they have their backs to the wall, at that point there will be no where else to go than to push back. There is so much human and natural resources in these African countries but its leaders continue to just focus on themselves.
Military take overs like these are inevitable.
It's better it's not an uprising or a revolution where there is an excess loss of lives.

The concept of democracy in these regions is a scam. It's just a way these politicians use to subdue it's citizens. This is evident from the just concluded election in Gabon. There's no way a particular family rule a people for over 50 years while the people remain in abject poverty and a majority of the people would still vote them into power. That is just an insult on the intelligence of the people. Add that to the long list of things these people suffer at the hands of their oppressors.


It is a shameful thing for a country to allow itself be at the mercy of another country. The resources are in your country, they belong to you, and should control them.
You don't give over the control of those resources to another country and expect them to take you seriously.
It's so bad because this is the situation of almost every African country. You can't allow another man control what you own, it doesn't matter what. These politicians just make deals that would put more money in their pockets while these external country squeeze out every resources in the country. There is no way the external country is to blame for this. Blame your leaders.

What you seem to be missing from the story is that Russia has been instigating a lot of the instability in these countries, as they seek to expand their area of influence in Africa - because really they have very few overseas bases and lost the soft power war with China in that region for a long time. Combine that with the recent fall of Wagner, which was the mercenary group doing a lot of the Kremlin's dirty work on the ground, and what you're seeing is the fall out from those mercenaries losing any command structures and disintegrating. Anger against France, has been fomented but they did actually try to support a lot of the more democratic governments in the region and now we're just seeing military juntas take over which will be accountable to nobody and make the situation for the average person in these countries even worse.

I read some magazines and saw there have been nine military coups and coup attempts in West and Central Africa since 2020.  At first glance, this trend of coups may appear to be a backward movement of African countries.  Countries may seem to be taking an aggressive route back to military rule.  It seems that powerful people are taking advantage of the fragile situation created by Russia's presence in the region.  But the real situation in Africa is more complicated.There are more complex reasons behind the coup.  These include weak state structures, strong military and paramilitary forces, livelihood crisis due to climate change, large youth population and economic uncertainty.  All these things collectively are sowing the seeds of despair among the youth and they are losing faith in the institutions.  As a result, the strengths of charismatic characters are becoming attractive to them. The impact spreads beyond the continent to also hit the global economy and markets by significant rises in the prices of oil, minerals and agricultural crops. This eventually causes waves of global inflation.

An interesting example from you and that because the characteristics of consumer behavior are always changing and developing in terms of motivation, expectations, perceptions and learning which are influenced by the cultural environment, geography, demographics, social, political, economic, international political constellations.

If we link them as you say, they may be interdependent and related, but what is interesting here is why was there a coup? and does the government there not read the impact of flirting with foreign parties?

Global economy? I don't think it will have a big impact if every country does not depend on the supply of natural resources from there. Just like that, France may want to control or have already made large profits so a coup was carried out to prevent exploitation and greater losses to the people living in the mining environment. In every country, even though it looks peaceful, regional conflicts always occur so they don't care about foreign conflicts that don't receive any support. The impact on the global economy so far does not appear to be significant, perhaps due to a lack of information on which tasks of this kind will be received more by the respective governments.

Residents who made such arguments were probably because they objected too much or were angry with the attitude of the parties from France who were only concerned with the exploitation of raw materials for them without considering the prosperity in the region. And it's possible that the coup had something to do with the unused workers of the people there so they woke up and made a coup to stop the operations of the company.

I think the government needs to look into this matter if it still wants the company to operate as usual because the impact on the economic sector will also be very clear if complaints from the residents themselves are not responded to and the residents also want the opportunity to work there as long as the company can still be operated. So this coup could be very bad for the economy if there is no wise solution, especially as it relates to raw materials for producing steel and batteries.

From the recent one which happened in Niger Republic and now it's Gabon turn, if we are to look at these countries in Africa, they are a minority nation which has poor development in all aspects of the economy and the people are struggling to cope with living and affordable life, if truly the cause of this is in fight for human right and not an attempt to accomplish selfish ambition of those in power and those willing to take over, i will say that we are getting closer to the stage where people will voice out to demand for what they want, maybe this would trigger others to voice out along in Africa over underdevelopment and human rights.

France is not technically controlling their government but the African people government has been corrupt ever since, anything that will benefit them, they will do it because of money. That's why people in africa are starving, because they have a government that doesn't care for them, who is abusing their resources but never shared the money to the citizens.

Any government that comes to power that's not dancing to the whims and caprice of the West and European powers they immediately use the media to tag it as dictatorship, tyrant because they refuse to sell out the interest of their countrymen to foreign foreign interest. Muammar Muhammad Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi was one of such victim of western propaganda and today Libyans are having the worst standard of living of their life while the West pillage their oil and other mineral resources. If this military coups in Niger, Gabon we're all in the interest of the France they won't have dared to term it as bad or illegal, there media would have shoveled out a word to suit the situation.

If the character that African selfish and wicked leaders live by is what those of the European and western nations have in their leaders their military would have done worst than a bloodless coup as way of bringing back their honor and dignity as a sovereign nation. 
As for @Karmakr I think he needs to go do research about where human civilization started from. And by his statement is crystal clear he has never left the shores of his  state to see the world for himself only stomaching what their media preach to them about Africa and her people.

Gabon Coup Latest: Billions In Raw Cash Found In Ali Bongo Son Apartment!

"Democratically elected government"... I'm sure they would find even more money if only some other "democratically elected governments" could be investigated.

It seems that Africa is slowly waking up... I hope these old thieves will be replaced by someone better!

The problem is that populism and military coups are not supposed to be solutions to corruption and poverty either. The population can be desperate enough to believe those military men are their saviors but if they do not call for elections after getting rid of their previous corrupt president, then what is the point?

In my country and in other Latin American republics, we had attempts of coups and even successful ones and most of them only prolonged the suffering, because those military men did not guaranteed the safeguard of human rights, translating to execution, torture and exile of citizens who were deemed to be against the new administration, that is not supposed to be future of those African republics, to end being republics...

The effect will be positive for friendly countries if  Gabon knows what she is doing or allows those who can help to guide her. Ofcourse, Russia would be in the best position to help as this is happening because of her current role as World leader to prevent a globalist takeover of the world and have a head as guide. Those who are against her are decreasing while she is increasing... but this is temporal.

If you think the ugly trend of the African coup will not have any effect on France, then you might be missing the link, it will surely have security concerns on the entire world and economic effect on countries more than France. That if they (world leaders) didn't look for a way to quickly adjust or go back to a renegotiation table to avoid much havoc.

The assets reserve of these francophone countries are in France, they will turn the table around, but France will want to lay a restriction. Over time, if the civilian government of the junta mind wins an election, France will dare not again, and the world will talk. France buys their mineral resources at a ridiculously low price, and that will stop.

Also talking about Uranium, Niger alone supplied 18% of France's Uranium between 2005-2020. We all know how important this element is in electricity generation, nuclear-powered submarines and security (Nuclear weapons).

The problem of African political system is the presence of corrupt and wicked leaders who have paid very strong allegiance to their foreign counterparts. Although their foreign counterparts have been exploiting Africa from colonial era to post-colonial era and even till date. The exploiters take a huge part of the exploitation and give the small part to the leaders which goes to them and their families while the poor masses suffer in abject poverty. I do not blame the Citizens of these countries were the coupe is happening because they have suffered for long and pushed to the wall. They have no option than to react in such a way.

That's exactly what someone's trying to do. And not within the framework of one country, but a significant part of the continent. Then they install their protégés, feed them from their hands, and they do whatever they want. But as you understand - shallow people, who got power in their hands, are unlikely to be engaged in the development of the economy, improving the standard of living of their citizens. They will receive handouts, and will do as tame dogs any orders of the "master". This is what the USSR did in the past. Compare the economies of countries that were under the "protectorate of the USSR" and the subsequent number of debts to the USSR, and those - who were in the sphere of influence of Western countries - and you will realize the repetition of whose scenario is playing out now