i bet if an american muslim bought many guns, fbi/cia would be all over him
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Just so you know you're not alone... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Information_Analysis_Center
i bet if an american muslim bought many guns, fbi/cia would be all over him
It's B.S., but I bet your right. Ignorance, meet the law. 
But no, no one has a gun so one person can do the fuck he want.
Eloquence itself.
If victims had guns then they would be alive.
1 person enter in theater and start shooting
other ppl grab their gun, kill him
problem solved.
But no, no one has a gun so one person can do the fuck he want.
1 person enter in theater and start shooting
other ppl grab their gun, kill him
problem solved.
But no, no one has a gun so one person can do the fuck he want.
Apples, meet oranges.
I'm pretty sure I'm neither apple nor orange, rjk. I kind of thought I was a starfruit - oddly appealing, and strangely bitter.
Apples, meet oranges.
I'm pretty sure I'm neither apple nor orange, rjk. I kind of thought I was a starfruit - oddly appealing, and strangely bitter.
Apples, meet oranges.
Funny thing that the apple population influences the orange population 
Apples, meet oranges.
You might note that Australia has remarkably high burglary rates. The problem noticed in my 30 page "Guns" thread is that any piece of statistics, or one isolated case, can be found in favor of or against gun control. The difficulty is in getting people to take ALL the statistics.
I'd rather be burgled than murdered. Would a lack of gun control in Australia reduce burglary rates and not see an increase in gun crime? Just your opinion, since I wouldn't trust statistics in this hypothetical situation. I'd like an explanation though..
No, they aren't equal. So you're saying that gun control has nothing to do with burglary rates then?
In any case, the answer to your question is "no." What I am saying is that the rate of Australian burglaries is so much higher than the rate of American shootings that the latter is relatively insignificant as an argument for gun control.
You might note that Australia has remarkably high burglary rates. The problem noticed in my 30 page "Guns" thread is that any piece of statistics, or one isolated case, can be found in favor of or against gun control. The difficulty is in getting people to take ALL the statistics.
I'd rather be burgled than murdered. Would a lack of gun control in Australia reduce burglary rates and not see an increase in gun crime? Just your opinion, since I wouldn't trust statistics in this hypothetical situation. I'd like an explanation though..
No, they aren't equal. So you're saying that gun control has nothing to do with burglary rates then?
You might note that Australia has remarkably high burglary rates. The problem noticed in my 30 page "Guns" thread is that any piece of statistics, or one isolated case, can be found in favor of or against gun control. The difficulty is in getting people to take ALL the statistics.
I'd rather be burgled than murdered. Would a lack of gun control in Australia reduce burglary rates and not see an increase in gun crime? Just your opinion, since I wouldn't trust statistics in this hypothetical situation. I'd like an explanation though..
You might note that Australia has remarkably high burglary rates. The problem noticed in my 30 page "Guns" thread is that any piece of statistics, or one isolated case, can be found in favor of or against gun control. The difficulty is in getting people to take ALL the statistics.
I'd rather be burgled than murdered. Would a lack of gun control in Australia reduce burglary rates and not see an increase in gun crime? Just your opinion, since I wouldn't trust statistics in this hypothetical situation. I'd like an explanation though..
I live in one of the UK's highest murder rate areas.
Know what? Statistically it isn't half as bad as just about any US city.
Know what? Statistically it isn't half as bad as just about any US city.
Ever thought that might have more to do with the people where you live than the laws where you live?
And does "just about any US city" include Kennesaw, Georgia?
So the most murderous people in the UK are less murderous than the most murderous people in the US? Why do you think that is, myrkul?
A long history of exporting their criminals?
Why then is it that Australia has a similarly low rate of murder? Australia has history of importing criminals.
http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/08/wade-michael-page-islamophobia-unleashed-by-wajahat-ali/
Wajahat Ali discusses why questions about whether Page “mistook Sikhs for Muslims” are largely irrelevant at the moment.
How much longer will we tolerate politicians who stoke bigotry like that which drove Wade Michael Page to kill?
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http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/08/on-heels-of-july-4th-arson-attack-joplin-islamic-mosque-burned-to-the-ground-for-second-time/
http://thedebateinitiative.com/2012/08/06/mosque-in-missouri-burned-down/
Wajahat Ali discusses why questions about whether Page “mistook Sikhs for Muslims” are largely irrelevant at the moment.
How much longer will we tolerate politicians who stoke bigotry like that which drove Wade Michael Page to kill?
--
http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/08/on-heels-of-july-4th-arson-attack-joplin-islamic-mosque-burned-to-the-ground-for-second-time/
http://thedebateinitiative.com/2012/08/06/mosque-in-missouri-burned-down/
You hit the nail on the head. This shooting was the result of a culture that breeds fear and xenophobia. The media, the government, and the education system are all complicit in creating this fear, which results in extreme jingoism. Add in the failure of the a social safety net, and the poor state of mental health care in the us, and you get nutjobs committing acts like this.
If tight gun control laws stopped crime, Dc, nyc, and Chicago would be amongst the safest cities in the us. (They're not.)
So it's just that the US is an unsafe place to live, regardless of gun control. That's a very sad thing. I wonder why it is so?
No. The us has many wonderfull, safe places to live. Quite a few of these same places have lax gun laws.
Vermont, for instance.
If tight gun control laws stopped crime, Dc, nyc, and Chicago would be amongst the safest cities in the us. (They're not.)
So it's just that the US is an unsafe place to live, regardless of gun control. That's a very sad thing. I wonder why it is so?
No. The us has many wonderfull, safe places to live. Quite a few of these same places have lax gun laws.
Internationally, look at Switzerland. More guns than people, and less gun crime per capita than the Uk (which has insanely strict gun laws)
I live in one of the UK's highest murder rate areas.
Know what? Statistically it isn't half as bad as just about any US city.
Know what? Statistically it isn't half as bad as just about any US city.
Ever thought that might have more to do with the people where you live than the laws where you live?
And does "just about any US city" include Kennesaw, Georgia?
So the most murderous people in the UK are less murderous than the most murderous people in the US? Why do you think that is, myrkul?
A long history of exporting their criminals?
Why then is it that Australia has a similarly low rate of murder? Australia has history of importing criminals.
Maybe you should ask a professional sociologist. I for one, am not qualified to make any judgements on why this society has a lower murder rate than that one.
Again, read the "guns" thread, and you may want to pick up this book, which compares the same societies, before and after gun control laws.
If tight gun control laws stopped crime, Dc, nyc, and Chicago would be amongst the safest cities in the us. (They're not.)
So it's just that the US is an unsafe place to live, regardless of gun control. That's a very sad thing. I wonder why it is so?
All these shootings are a joke...
Love how they just so happen to occur right when their needed to sway public opinion.
Love how they just so happen to occur right when their needed to sway public opinion.
If tight gun control laws stopped crime, Dc, nyc, and Chicago would be amongst the safest cities in the us. (They're not.)
Likewise, cities like Denver would be super dangerous because of lax gun laws...guess what? Statistically, Denver is one of the top 10 safest cities in the us.
Likewise, cities like Denver would be super dangerous because of lax gun laws...guess what? Statistically, Denver is one of the top 10 safest cities in the us.
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