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legendary
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How about you what kind of gamblers are you within these two types of gamblers, you should have a pick if you've been gambling for a long time I'm sure you have some of their characteristics.
I don't know for sure what kind of gambler I am from between the two categories you mentioned, what is certain and what I experienced is that I am just a normal gambler who can stop at any time and also play still within the budget that has been set, even though I have exceeded the budget but it is still within my means and the loss did not affect my finances at all, and if we look at the two categories, it can be seen that they are problem gamblers, problems with self-control and so on, so it can be said that both of them fall into the addict category.
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The first time I read this, I didn't know there were two types of gamblers like this.
I only know the gambling addicts or the occasional gamblers. I mean, we could already define it by just the words. But when "action" and "escape" are used it seems to get twisted.

Anyway, I might be part of those "action gamblers". Started when I was a teen playing cards with friends and relatives only. Afterward, I was invited to a poker club and then I kept on playing there weekly because I really love the game. When the pandemic hit I stopped too, staying safe is my priority. Someone introduced me to online poker but I don't appreciate it, something is missing. Finally, now I am a sports bettor. It seems like it was defined perfectly in the "action" gamblers but not the last part of it.
I play sports betting daily, but I do it only in the evening setting my bets, then I will watch the games in the mornings and that's it. I don't try to chase my losses through other sports. I stick with only what I know and the games are not that many for a day so there's definitely a rest.
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I think it's very important to identify our gambling behaviors, it will help to reflect on our habits and to recognize if there is a need to seek professional support to address any issues may have.
legendary
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It seems like I fall into these two types of gamblers, but somehow, I don't feel sure about this. But after all, I only gamble for fun and am not one or even both types of gamblers. Apart from that, I am also still learning to control myself, and I can stop myself from gambling too often.

And those two types of gamblers are not the type I feel like I am today. I can gamble several times a week, but I can also refrain from gambling for several weeks or even not gamble for a month or more. So I feel like I'm not part of either type of gambler.
I notice that many users here are the same as you who also falls on both types but I think that's because both types have some similarities in which they define irresponsible gambling, so you are correct that you don't belong to any of them because you are only playing for fun. That is not the same as having fun in video games where we can play for hours.

Gambling addiction can only trigger if one is aiming to win a good amount of money. IMO, it would be better if we can just consider the two types of gamblers here as one and then add another one which is for the gamblers like you and me who are not compulsive. That would make more sense.
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I'm pretty sure that I'm none of the two mentioned gambler types because I don't gamble regularly and these characteristics can only be found in gamblers who gamble regularly with no breaks and have been doing it for quite some time already.

I started gambling a few years back, although I was compulsive with my gambling habits at the initial stage, I managed to control myself and my emotions later on and reduced my gambling time and budget which made a great difference in my financial life because I was using a lot of money on gambling.

If I talk about the present time, I gamble sometimes but it's not done regularly, and I don't think I have any of the characteristics mentioned in both categories.
Actually, you'd fall under one category even if you are not gambling daily simply 'coz characteristics under those categories speaks in general. But I don't get the point of determining or placing oneself on what type of a gambler you are. You could be active (action) and addicted to gambling or escape and still be addicted into it. Emotions and habits are there simply because we are humans and something important is on the line which is money. We are also having expectations of our own with the outcome which also contribute with how we will act or feel in every bet. What should matter, no matter what category there is, is to be able to handle the risk in every bet you will make. Keep in mind how gambling works; we are all prone of losing and luck will never be in our control. There will always be a 50:50 ratio of either winning or losing.
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I'm pretty sure that I'm none of the two mentioned gambler types because I don't gamble regularly and these characteristics can only be found in gamblers who gamble regularly with no breaks and have been doing it for quite some time already.

I started gambling a few years back, although I was compulsive with my gambling habits at the initial stage, I managed to control myself and my emotions later on and reduced my gambling time and budget which made a great difference in my financial life because I was using a lot of money on gambling.

If I talk about the present time, I gamble sometimes but it's not done regularly, and I don't think I have any of the characteristics mentioned in both categories.
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For me I don't fall into any of those categories. Gambling is a kind of game that doesn't need a long time or too much dedication, otherwise you turn to a chronic gambler which makes you take unnecessary risk or trying to prove a meaningless point of becoming a gambling hybrid or guru.

When I was younger I don't gamble, and even if I was to gamble, my parents will even kill me for that. The reason why most children became a gambling addict today, is lack of parental home training and care. Most parents thinks that giving birth to children is a guarantee to success. without knowing that proper upbringing will make your children become reasonable. Most parents don't know where their children go to after school. Some immediately they are off from school, the next thing is to go to a gambling hall. Always looking at adult what they do. Little by little they gradually become addict and as time goes on their parents fund becomes unsafe due to gambling.

So it's not good for children to start gambling at an early age, because it will definitely affect their future. There is a friend of mine that is a chronic gambler, and it started at an early age. Because his father was also a chronic gambler. So nobody to advise each other because the father doesn't know if what he is doing is good or bad. Now his children always think gambling is the only hope just like their father and now, no matter the amount that comes to them, they can't utilise it because of gambling. So let be careful the way we exposed our children to early gambling. Because parents also has a big role to play in children's life in gambling.
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I guess I'm an action gambler. I did not gamble from an early age or as a teenager. I only see myself in the category of friendly, sociable, gregarious and generous people. But I've also noticed I've been in the category of "Evolve through four stages: Win-Loss-Desperation-Desperation (although the winning stages are very different for runaway gamblers.)."

But whatever it is, so far, I can still control myself when gambling. I have changed the goal of gambling just to enjoy it. I can also regulate my gambling activities so that I am not too passionate about gambling.

But I think many gamblers fall into those two categories because gamblers experience things in those two categories. They just don't know that there are two types of gamblers like the one you shared.
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Maybe I am an action gambler and also an escape gambler because I have known gambling for a long time but still use it continuously but I have not reached the stage of critical gambling addiction because I gamble responsibly, and I also sometimes become a gambling escapee because when I lose I immediately give up and stop for a while, and start my gambling action when I forget about my losses. However, I don't really care about my gambling in the category you mean because the most important thing for me is that not becoming addicted is enough.

Handling gambling as categorized above does make someone seem to have a bad attitude towards gambling because they become manipulative and compulsive and have the ambition to win at gambling. In fact, I prefer to gamble for fun, but when I lose money, sometimes I also feel sad even though I use it money I can afford to lose.
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I have seen a lot of members posting different kinds and types of gamblers but I doubt if they already know these two types of gamblers, I have not seen anyone posting these two types of gamblers yet.

Action Gambler
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Action gamblers are usually domineering, controlling, manipulative men with large egos. They see themselves as friendly, sociable, gregarious and generous. Their average IQ is over 120. They are energetic, assertive, persuasive and confident. In spite of all this, they usually have low self-esteem. Historically, they started gambling at an early age, often in their teens, by placing small bets on sporting events or playing cards with friends or relatives. They progress through the four phases of the disorder over a ten to thirty year time span. Action compulsive gamblers gamble primarily at “skill” games such as poker or other card games, horse and dog racing and sports betting. These gamblers dominate both legal and illegal sports betting.
I see a very big mix up in this description of yours as it seem to be conflicting it self as I try to understand it because I seem not to be able to understand how some one will be able to possess all the qualities you did mentioned above and yet such person is still have low self esteem, I mean this doesn't match up at all and it's almost not making Sense to me.

Gambling at early age could over time build your experience and make you a much more better gambler because some how history is bound to repeat it's self so in that case you may have to just use your experience and when you see some events about reoccurring you take advantage of it and you could get your next big hit from such game. These gamblers are usually skilled in some cases no doubts and that's because they have been doing it over the years and are now consider very experienced enough to Play much better than regular newbies.
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This seems more like a superstition other than anything else...

No, it's not bro, it's a clinical study I have dropped the link you may have missed reading the article, the doctors are the ones who came out with these terms not ordinary citizens, I also thought that there are only two types of gamblers responsible and irresponsible gamblers. but there are other types too

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Just like Koreans think your life is judged by your blood type, or how many indian people still kinda somehow follow the caste system...
Based on how someone gambles they come up with character traits? I wish life was that simple so we could judge people with things like zodiac signs or character stats.
But that's how physicians do the things they try to articulate, or comprehend the behavior of gamblers, it may not look easy for us laymen.
They study the behavior, so they can trace symptoms and set up a rehabilitation method for gamblers, gambling behavior is quite complicated, they first classified it so they can come out with treatments on how to cure these symptoms.
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Like most people fall into the second category, namely considering gambling as a place of escape. and quite a few people feel stressed because of their duties and work, they choose gambling as a place to relieve stress and find relaxation and fun by gambling. However, there are those who are more dangerous, namely people who turn to gambling because they are experiencing financial problems, where they hope that by gambling they can overcome their financial problems and by betting they can get profits many times over. And that is a stupid assumption, which can harm themselves, which in the end their financial condition gets worse as a result of a number of losses they experience while gambling, while they fall into the valley of the abyss that exists in gambling, namely the problem of gambling addiction which makes them more and more losses and losses.
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Each group has parts of me in it. I started by betting on simple games because I loved both skill and luck. Making a quick choice gives you more of an energy rush than winning. Additionally, it's provided me a small break from my daily routine. This exact mix between action and escape shapes gambling.

Encourage safe and fun gaming. The important thing is to know when gaming stops being fun. Being aware of our Action and Escape gambler habits helps us stay balanced. To keep games fun and interesting, we need to understand why we do the things we do.
legendary
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I am happy to see myself in the first category although I don't know about IQ though I have a really high self esteem and I surely have not finished the 4 phases despite having gambled since more than 23 years ago.Of course those who lie and manipulate to take profit from other persons by such means will have low self esteem and with the passing of time these type of persons are the one who end very badly in the sad stories we have seen in large quantity here.
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Is it possible to not have a characteristic that’s not specific to just one category? I mean something in between?

Because for me, there are certain habits that I exhibit that does not fall entirely into one category - seems like mid-way between action gambler and Escape gambler so I’d like to know if there’s any other person who feel the same way as I do.

Same mate! I don't know in which category should I fall because I have some characteristics from both category and it seems like many of us are having the same thoughts?  But I'm much more into Action gambler and I know to myself that I need to become a responsible gambler and I need to stick on what I've planned and started. I won't lie to say that I only gamble to enjoy and have fun, of course I somehow expect to win so that I can have money that I can use to treat myself or my family, but I don't rely on gambling as the only source of income because I have a stable job.
You don't need to categorise yourself; there are definite categories of gamblers, as people can have mixed or different characteristics. In short, even I, as an action gambler, can also be an escape gambler, but based on the OP's statement, it is not clear what kind of characteristics the two types of gamblers have, as some characteristics are contradictory and don't match the category. That's why I'd say it's more like a gambler can be anywhere; he can manifest different characteristics depending on his current mood or the kind of environment he is residing in. But if I were to categorise myself, I would be an aggressive gambler who likes thrills and, at the same time, has fun with those thrills. I could also be a coward gambler sometimes who can't take a risk. So it doesn't matter what type or what category you are in as a gambler, as long as you know your limits and you know yourself.
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This seems more like a superstition other than anything else...
Just like Koreans think your life is judged by your blood type, or how many indian people still kinda somehow follow the caste system...
Based on how someone gambles they come up with character traits? I wish life was that simple so we could judge people with things like zodiac signs or character stats.

It’s not about judging but rather this kind of traits is discovered due to the similarities within the gamblers. It’s just a classification and that doesn’t mean that it runs to your blood already. It’s based on how you behave which means you can change your classification based on your attitude.

I believe the list provided by the OP is not complete since there’s a lot of different types of gamblers that doesn’t mention on that 2 category. I myself don’t find any suitable category. the option since I’m just an average gambler but not low self esteem.there should be a choices in the middle.
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Action Gambler
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Action gamblers are usually domineering, controlling, manipulative men with large egos. They see themselves as friendly, sociable, gregarious and generous. Their average IQ is over 120. They are energetic, assertive, persuasive and confident. In spite of all this, they usually have low self-esteem. Historically, they started gambling at an early age, often in their teens, by placing small bets on sporting events or playing cards with friends or relatives. They progress through the four phases of the disorder over a ten to thirty year time span. Action compulsive gamblers gamble primarily at “skill” games such as poker or other card games, horse and dog racing and sports betting. These gamblers dominate both legal and illegal sports betting.
Escape Gamblers
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Escape compulsive gamblers share some of the same characteristics as the Action gambler:
Low self esteem
Become liars
Manipulative
Evolve through four stages: Winning-Losing-Desperation-Hopeless (although the winning stage is quite different for Escape gamblers.)
Compulsive gambling can be arrested through treatment and self-help programs.

Ordinarily, an action gambler who is characterized as being domineering and controlling and having large egos is not supposed to fall in the category of having low self-esteem but I think this is so because of the nature of the activity that is gambling. This even tells us why both action and escape gamblers have low self-esteem regardless of the fact that an action gambler posses confidence.

Does this mean gambling activity affects our self-esteem or leaves us with low self-esteem? From my experience, yes it does because constant loss in gambling can diminish the sense of self-worth. Some gamblers feel guilty after gambling due to the money and time they have spent on gambling and then neglecting their responsibilities.

However, I was hoping to see the different ways people behave when they win or lose because that in my opinion would have formed a better category of gamblers rather than telling us the different characteristics of an individual. Some people have these characteristics but are not into gambling so it is not peculiar to gamblers alone. Also, I don't have to fall under the category of escape gambler by the characteristics you have given before becoming an addicted gambler because all addicts go through those stages so that is not peculiar to escape gamblers as you have implied.
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Action gambler sounds pretty weird. I mean it said it itself, having those characteristics then having low self-esteem? Or maybe only in terms of gambling? Then I guess it slightly makes more sense since some people are just like that. Rather curious why it's called "Action" gambler though. The most notable characteristic is their having opposite attitudes when it comes to gambling and regular life so it might've been better to describe it that way.

As for Escape gamblers, they're probably the ones who destroy their own families and friends relationship-wise since they probably try to get money off of them by either guilt-tripping or as the characteristics said, manipulating them by lying.

Well most people probably fall into well, normal gamblers. These types, whatever or whoever describes them in the first place, probably only describes the extreme cases.
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I think these categories are complicated and too complex for someone to fall into either one of the category. I mean, for an action gambler, it was stated that one of its characteristic is confident, but in the next sentence it became self contradictory as it states that despite all those positive character, they usually have low self-esteem? I'm sorry but I didn't get it.

I actually knew several people who were confident on almost every bet they make, especially in a match up game like poker, pool, and other pvp gambling games, but they all doesn't have a low self-steem. In fact they are very competitive who even applaud a winning opponent.
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I really don't know if we can be just categorized on those 2 characteristics. And for sure majority here will not agree on the description itself, what? we have low self-esteem, and manipulative? What the hell is that description? So I will say that it's not that right to categorized all, some of us just play to have some fun. Maybe others have big capital to begin with and that is fined. But I don't think they gamble because they are manipulative or something, they play to enjoy and be entertained and of course us average joe gamblers wanted to win, simply as that. No need to go to that line to describe who we are, gamblers will be gamblers and that is enough for us. We don't have self-esteem and that is the worst that I heard about gamblers to be honest.
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