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Is it possible to not have a characteristic that’s not specific to just one category? I mean something in between?

Because for me, there are certain habits that I exhibit that does not fall entirely into one category - seems like mid-way between action gambler and Escape gambler so I’d like to know if there’s any other person who feel the same way as I do.

Same mate! I don't know in which category should I fall because I have some characteristics from both category and it seems like many of us are having the same thoughts?  But I'm much more into Action gambler and I know to myself that I need to become a responsible gambler and I need to stick on what I've planned and started. I won't lie to say that I only gamble to enjoy and have fun, of course I somehow expect to win so that I can have money that I can use to treat myself or my family, but I don't rely on gambling as the only source of income because I have a stable job.
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I don't have a complete category above but maybe it's a little closer to action gamblers, every gambler does have a unique character from their gambling but this is obtained usually from their own gambling experience, so their character is formed in gambling, how they play gambling at gambling or even with their friends. I actually don't think too much about how my character gambles, but the most important thing is that every time I gamble, limit my budget well so that I don't play beyond my limits and betting small as long as it's profitable doesn't matter.

It's almost close to the character of an action gambler, but whatever it is, I'm sure not everyone has full similarities with the character written in this thread because everyone has their own history in gambling and of course there are many different experiences with gambling itself, don't think that every gambler can have the same character because the character of each gambler is always built from the level of experience during gambling and of course each person is also different in their views on gambling.  Wink
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It seems like I fall into these two types of gamblers, but somehow, I don't feel sure about this. But after all, I only gamble for fun and am not one or even both types of gamblers. Apart from that, I am also still learning to control myself, and I can stop myself from gambling too often.

And those two types of gamblers are not the type I feel like I am today. I can gamble several times a week, but I can also refrain from gambling for several weeks or even not gamble for a month or more. So I feel like I'm not part of either type of gambler.
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Based on that description, action gamblers are energetic and yet they have low self-esteem? I think that contradicts the entire description of it when they're action gamblers, energetic and yet they have this problem of having low self-esteem.
Some characteristics of low self-esteem are:

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thinking that other people are better than you, thinking that you do not deserve to have fun, blaming yourself when things go wrong, focusing on your negatives and ignoring your achievements, joking about yourself in a negative way, saying something negative and critical about yourself.

I do not think if someone do not have some of these characteristics, that the person will be energetic. You are right.

What OP posted are just something not to consider.
That's why I think that it contradicts to the description on what OP has given about the action gamblers. They shouldn't be low self-esteem gamblers as they are active and energetic. And whenever there are these types that differentiate the classics of gamblers does have their own reference. But I think that they've just made it for someone to have something to do out of boredom. But anyway, I respect all of these classifications if that's too important to them because still, I don't think that there's a need for you to classify yourself.

It's just like the old times when we talk about it for being an active gambler or a passive gambler. Someone who does it for fun and does it for the money. So, all of those stuff and descriptions that we all know, there can be changes over time based on the trend in the gambling industry and based on the terms that we've been using. But as I have said, there's not really any importance whether to get classified as one or not.
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Both types of gamblers are not that good in their perspective but it's worth taking note of these kinds of gamblers so we can analyze ourselves if we are behaving any one of these two types of gamblers.

How about you what kind of gamblers are you within these two types of gamblers, you should have a pick if you've been gambling for a long time I'm sure you have some of their characteristics.

It's the first time I am hearing about these two types of gamblers and I think that I don't fall into any category of two. My IQ is definitely too low for being an action gambler and I don't like to be loud or even shout about my bets. Even when I have a big bet on a game that I watch live in a public place, then I don't like to be vocal about my bets. With my friends I am happy to share my bets and if I win I am also happy to buy some beers, but I don't like to engage the whole room in my betting. So instead of the action gambler I am rather the quiet one that looks from behind and enjoys the show. As for the escape gambler, I don't like lying and would never do it to my friends and family. I can understand that people are uncomfortable to talk about gambling when they are losing, but then it's better to say nothing instead of lying. Also I don't like to manipulate people or worse case myself, there is no benefit to it.
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Based on that description, action gamblers are energetic and yet they have low self-esteem? I think that contradicts the entire description of it when they're action gamblers, energetic and yet they have this problem of having low self-esteem.
Some characteristics of low self-esteem are:

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thinking that other people are better than you, thinking that you do not deserve to have fun, blaming yourself when things go wrong, focusing on your negatives and ignoring your achievements, joking about yourself in a negative way, saying something negative and critical about yourself.

I do not think if someone do not have some of these characteristics, that the person will be energetic. You are right.

What OP posted are just something not to consider.
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Based on that description, action gamblers are energetic and yet they have low self-esteem? I think that contradicts the entire description of it when they're action gamblers, energetic and yet they have this problem of having low self-esteem. Maybe the majority belongs to this category because of how many are energetic in terms of gambling but if it's with the other things, we don't usually give our thoughts and attention on it. The attention that we're giving to gambling is we are aware of it but we just can't stop ourselves when we're already there.

And as for the escape gamblers, looks like they are villain of this topic and they are liars and manipulative. Anyway, a type 1 category or the action gamblers can also be manipulative based on the descriptions that they have and said that they've got that IQ and confidence. Why I think that it can just be the same category and there's really no need to categorize them because at the end of it, what matters is that they're both gamblers and still can go to the point of being addicted.
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I think they should be more categories available, but it's safe to say that the first option, action gambler, has a higher number of gamblers in that category than the second option, which I don't belong to, I'd say the first option, but not completely me, because I don't participate in illegal gambling. Started gambling at a young stage and played card games too with friends. Although never won big in those kinds of game. The escape gamblers still have lots of gamblers in that category, but not all has escaped being compulsive in gambling. The need to be a responsible gambler, may not be found in both categories. Because sometimes the action gambler would find himself, if care is not taken, compulsive in the end. Hence, the need to be a better gambler is to make sure one is not gambler from a young age, that's as an underage. It takes some strong self-control for such a person to escape compulsive gambling.
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This seems more like a superstition other than anything else...
Just like Koreans think your life is judged by your blood type, or how many indian people still kinda somehow follow the caste system...
Based on how someone gambles they come up with character traits? I wish life was that simple so we could judge people with things like zodiac signs or character stats.
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I am a private gambler who feels ashamed and guilty if caught while gambling because in my locality, people off the gambling industry tends to see gamblers as frustrated and lost of vision individuals.
So for that I stays humble and unpanicks while gambling so that I don't get tagged with the irresponsible names and I maintains to an utmost best not to bring gambling reputations to my family and it is quite unfortunate that I have the emotional guilts sighting some irresponsible Indulgences in the gambling lives which I honestly don't want any of my relatives to indulge on.

This is the best I could explain about my gambling characters so @ OP, I don't know if I still belongs to any of your above mentioned gambling categories.
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From your explanation of the two categories of gamblers, it reminds me of what I was also talking about just this week about the reaction of gamblers to addiction. There are some gamblers that can easily change their attitude towards gambling if they become addicted, while there are also some that cannot change their attitude, no matter how hard someone tries to help them avoid gambling addiction.

In essence, there are some gamblers who don't focus so long on their losses, while for another gambler, it can take him or her up to one or two days before they can forget the pain that the losses they experienced from gambling caused them. I know that there are usually different kinds of gamblers as long as there are different kinds of individuals in the world.
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In my case, I don't know what my category is, because I only bet with money that I can afford to lose, but I also always leave long gaps of time between my bets. for example, when I start betting for 3 weeks, then I stop betting for a month, to prevent me from becoming dependent on gambling. I always exercise my self control. As I have read many stories of people who always told themselves that they only played for fun, but they spent many hours playing and at the end of a few months they became addicted and lost everything, lost money, lost jobs, lost material goods like house, car, lost wife and children, lost family

So I look at these very sad stories as historical knowledge that I shouldn't copy, and that I shouldn't make the same mistake. That's why I play with little money, I don't play constantly. I always take a vacation from games, I just follow the big leagues. Most people who gamble constantly keep telling themselves that they are not addicted to gambling, they are lying to themselves. The truth in my opinion is that this category thing doesn't matter, at the end of the day it comes down to who can play constantly and who plays sometimes. people who play with little money but constantly and can't stop playing and are fooling themselves that they have everything under control

They are no different from those people who constantly play with a lot of money and cannot stop playing, in both cases people are not well psychologically. That's why I always say that everyone should constantly test themselves: spend some time without playing. If they can do that then they are fine, but if they can't do that then they need to seek urgent treatment. Gambling is a very good thing to have fun with, but we need to be in moderation like everything we do in our lives. even food has to be consumed in moderation
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How about you what kind of gamblers are you within these two types of gamblers, you should have a pick if you've been gambling for a long time I'm sure you have some of their characteristics.
Probably the action gambler because I don't lie often. If we would check the definition, the two categories are alike with self-esteem and confidence with gambling. Descriptions are both generalized which won't effectively include all gamblers. And I think anyone could fall on either category depending on their mood. There will be times a gambler would be energetic especially during profitable periods but will be having low self esteem in times of loss. Nothing's consistent I guess even with gambler's attitude not only with gambling outcome. Knowing these, won't be that much of a help  think other than learning prior informations. What will matter the most is how we would actualize our gambling habits. It depends also with the circumstances a gambler falls into.
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Gamblers can be categorized in different forms but I find OP's types more complicated. Many bettors have one or two traits that are in both categories making this classification difficult to understand. I thought an escape gambler sees gambling as a means of escaping from physical or emotional problems faced in real life. They use gambling to divert their attention from some of life's problems. There have been issues when someone turns to gambling after losing a loved one.  

I might even decide to classify gamblers into passive, active, and addicted gamblers. Passive gamblers gamble occasionally, active gamblers are steady gamblers, while addicted bettors don't have control over their gambling activities.
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I see both categories are almost the same, it's hard to understand where I am, sometimes I'm afraid but sometimes I'm reckless, maybe I'm in the category of escape gambler, but in my opinion it will be difficult to stop gambling because I'm in an environment where almost everyone gambles, even children. small, I hope the bad effects are not so detrimental to me, I know gamblers will always end badly
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I didn't find any significant differences between both categories of gamblers, as both of them are addicted and display characteristics of being manipulative, low self-esteem individuals who have been losing money along their lives through gambling practice in a disfunctional way. Would the action gambler be a more energetic, active individual, while the escape gambler would be the passive, depressive one?

They are very similar, anyway, and I think the most important aspect when labelling them is to identify the trigger, the cause which drove them into addiction. The key differences I'm interested in investigating further is if such gamblers are driven by pleasure seeking, or if they are just escaping through gambling from an aversive reality they are facing, or from an aversive opinion about themselves, which would perfectly explain the low-esteem factor displayed as well.
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I have seen a lot of members posting different kinds and types of gamblers but I doubt if they already know these two types of gamblers, I have not seen anyone posting these two types of gamblers yet.

Action Gambler
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Action gamblers are usually domineering, controlling, manipulative men with large egos. They see themselves as friendly, sociable, gregarious and generous. Their average IQ is over 120. They are energetic, assertive, persuasive and confident. In spite of all this, they usually have low self-esteem. Historically, they started gambling at an early age, often in their teens, by placing small bets on sporting events or playing cards with friends or relatives. They progress through the four phases of the disorder over a ten to thirty year time span. Action compulsive gamblers gamble primarily at “skill” games such as poker or other card games, horse and dog racing and sports betting. These gamblers dominate both legal and illegal sports betting.

Escape Gamblers
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Escape compulsive gamblers share some of the same characteristics as the Action gambler:
Low self esteem
Become liars
Manipulative
Evolve through four stages: Winning-Losing-Desperation-Hopeless (although the winning stage is quite different for Escape gamblers.)
Compulsive gambling can be arrested through treatment and self-help programs.

https://www.pagc.sk.ca/hollistic-wellness-centre/hollistic-wellness-centre-types-of-gamblers/

Both types of gamblers are not that good in their perspective but it's worth taking note of these kinds of gamblers so we can analyze ourselves if we are behaving any one of these two types of gamblers.

How about you what kind of gamblers are you within these two types of gamblers, you should have a pick if you've been gambling for a long time I'm sure you have some of their characteristics.
I can relate somehow with those that feels that they are too experience in the art and would go to convince others to play it gamble a certain way that's in line with their view on the particular kind of gambling.

They are mostly those ones you see in a sports betting shops that feels that they are good advisers that can tell you they right game to bet even when they can't advice themselves and win a game in the gambling.
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I consider personality and character to be too nuanced for it to be so easily generalized. There is no one (or two boxes in this case) that fits gamblers, when you throw it other personality traits like poor self esteem, manipulation and IQ, it is just opening up pandora's box.

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It seems that we've got always the differentiation of gamblers and how we act to our activities. I don't see myself to any of the two but some of them are like my qualities like having low self steem.

Honestly, all of these types have their own respective meanings and characteristics. If someone is going on and fits himself to any of those, you have to think again about yourself and have to reflect on how you gamble and why you fit to any of those.
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Is it possible to not have a characteristic that’s not specific to just one category? I mean something in between?

Because for me, there are certain habits that I exhibit that does not fall entirely into one category - seems like mid-way between action gambler and Escape gambler so I’d like to know if there’s any other person who feel the same way as I do.

Your situation is similar to people with mental disorders. Sometimes it's hard to distinguish between a narcissist, a sociopath and a psychopath because they have many similar, yet different features.
In general, the way you classify yourself is you don't try to fill all the boxes, just count them up and see if you're more of one or the other type of personality.
Anyway, whatever you happen to be, both these cases are extreme and if you possess the features displayed by both, you should seek professional help.
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