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legendary
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July 30, 2014, 02:49:19 AM
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The only thing is that a part from Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the rest of casualties is related to Arab spring/revolution (with a few exceptions), and not real wars as the ones mentioned above

Huh?

Here is the list:

#1. Israeli–Palestinian conflict : Jews vs Arabs
#2. War in Afghanistan: NATO vs Taliban
#3. Somali Civil War: Al Shabab vs Ethiopia
#4. Islamist insurgency in Nigeria: Boko Haram vs Goodluck Jonathan
#5. War in North-West Pakistan: Taliban vs Pakistan
#6. Mexican Drug War
#7. Egyptian Crisis: Islamic Brotherhood vs Al Sisi
#8. Syrian Civil War: ISIS vs Assad
#9. Iraqi insurgency: ISIS vs NATO
#10. Central African Republic conflict: Muslims vs Christians
#11. South Sudanese Civil War
#12. War in Donbass

In the top ten, only the Mexican Drug War is not related to Islam.
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Those crimes were in those countries when they were pissed poor, no region escapes from such faith it's in human nature, the only difference is that when those countries were pissed poor as you say, there wasn't remotely as much media coverage as there is now, you can check african countries where Muslims are minority for example, type Central Africa massacre and check for your self and we can take any other example.

Again you are taking bad examples the US before the industrial revolution was poor, the US is a very large very rich country, from agriculture, mineral resources, water, animals ect ect and I'm not going to talk about ethnical cleansing of native population or salevery problems and heck even the representation in Hollywood movies of that era shows high crimes rates, and yet even today while it is the US has one of the highest if not the highest crime rate in the western world, as for Germany, after WW2 Germany was under colonization and army law, Germany was still a strong industrial country, and again that doesn't mean there were no crimes it means the crimes.

If you want to take an example take an example of real poor countries as in today (to have the same media coverage), where goverment can't even enforce the law.

Just one question, when has Islam ever live in peace with their neighbors and in what period has it ever dominance in commerce?

The country I live in, they don't even tolerate the local minority population.

I don't understand your the point of your question, because the answer would be the same everywhere heck to prove my point, maybe you need to check the list of deadliest wars in history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_by_death_toll
not a single war related to Islam in the top 15 actually, but I can understand that will all the media acharnament people can easly mistake, and this is the reason that I don't believe in media but I do a little bit of search before advancing something

But if you look at a list of ongoing armed conflicts with 1000+ deaths per year,8 out of 10 of those wars involves Muslims.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts
The only thing is that a part from Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the rest of casualties is related to Arab spring/revolution (with a few exceptions), and not real wars as the ones mentioned above
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Those crimes were in those countries when they were pissed poor, no region escapes from such faith it's in human nature, the only difference is that when those countries were pissed poor as you say, there wasn't remotely as much media coverage as there is now, you can check african countries where Muslims are minority for example, type Central Africa massacre and check for your self and we can take any other example.

Again you are taking bad examples the US before the industrial revolution was poor, the US is a very large very rich country, from agriculture, mineral resources, water, animals ect ect and I'm not going to talk about ethnical cleansing of native population or salevery problems and heck even the representation in Hollywood movies of that era shows high crimes rates, and yet even today while it is the US has one of the highest if not the highest crime rate in the western world, as for Germany, after WW2 Germany was under colonization and army law, Germany was still a strong industrial country, and again that doesn't mean there were no crimes it means the crimes.

If you want to take an example take an example of real poor countries as in today (to have the same media coverage), where goverment can't even enforce the law.

Just one question, when has Islam ever live in peace with their neighbors and in what period has it ever dominance in commerce?

The country I live in, they don't even tolerate the local minority population.

I don't understand your the point of your question, because the answer would be the same everywhere heck to prove my point, maybe you need to check the list of deadliest wars in history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_by_death_toll
not a single war related to Islam in the top 15 actually, but I can understand that will all the media acharnament people can easly mistake, and this is the reason that I don't believe in media but I do a little bit of search before advancing something

But if you look at a list of ongoing armed conflicts with 1000+ deaths per year,8 out of 10 of those wars involves Muslims.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts
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Those crimes were in those countries when they were pissed poor, no region escapes from such faith it's in human nature, the only difference is that when those countries were pissed poor as you say, there wasn't remotely as much media coverage as there is now, you can check african countries where Muslims are minority for example, type Central Africa massacre and check for your self and we can take any other example.

Again you are taking bad examples the US before the industrial revolution was poor, the US is a very large very rich country, from agriculture, mineral resources, water, animals ect ect and I'm not going to talk about ethnical cleansing of native population or salevery problems and heck even the representation in Hollywood movies of that era shows high crimes rates, and yet even today while it is the US has one of the highest if not the highest crime rate in the western world, as for Germany, after WW2 Germany was under colonization and army law, Germany was still a strong industrial country, and again that doesn't mean there were no crimes it means the crimes.

If you want to take an example take an example of real poor countries as in today (to have the same media coverage), where goverment can't even enforce the law.

Just one question, when has Islam ever live in peace with their neighbors and in what period has it ever dominance in commerce?

The country I live in, they don't even tolerate the local minority population.

I don't understand your the point of your question, because the answer would be the same everywhere heck to prove my point, maybe you need to check the list of deadliest wars in history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_by_death_toll
not a single war related to Islam in the top 15 actually, but I can understand that will all the media acharnament people can easly mistake, and this is the reason that I don't believe in media but I do a little bit of search before advancing something
legendary
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The right question would be when has Israel ever lived in peace with its neighbours?

It is not their fault that none of their neighbors recognize their right to exist. If they were only lightly armed and without any NATO support, Israel as a nation would have been long extinct as of now.
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Those crimes were in those countries when they were pissed poor, no region escapes from such faith it's in human nature, the only difference is that when those countries were pissed poor as you say, there wasn't remotely as much media coverage as there is now, you can check african countries where Muslims are minority for example, type Central Africa massacre and check for your self and we can take any other example.

Again you are taking bad examples the US before the industrial revolution was poor, the US is a very large very rich country, from agriculture, mineral resources, water, animals ect ect and I'm not going to talk about ethnical cleansing of native population or salevery problems and heck even the representation in Hollywood movies of that era shows high crimes rates, and yet even today while it is the US has one of the highest if not the highest crime rate in the western world, as for Germany, after WW2 Germany was under colonization and army law, Germany was still a strong industrial country, and again that doesn't mean there were no crimes it means the crimes.

If you want to take an example take an example of real poor countries as in today (to have the same media coverage), where goverment can't even enforce the law.
Just one question, when has Islam ever live in peace with their neighbors and in what period has it ever dominance in commerce?
The country I live in, they don't even tolerate the local minority population.

The right question would be when has Israel ever lived in peace with its neighbours?

They're the regime that keeps invading other countries.
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THE GAME OF CHANCE. CHANGED.
Those crimes were in those countries when they were pissed poor, no region escapes from such faith it's in human nature, the only difference is that when those countries were pissed poor as you say, there wasn't remotely as much media coverage as there is now, you can check african countries where Muslims are minority for example, type Central Africa massacre and check for your self and we can take any other example.

Again you are taking bad examples the US before the industrial revolution was poor, the US is a very large very rich country, from agriculture, mineral resources, water, animals ect ect and I'm not going to talk about ethnical cleansing of native population or salevery problems and heck even the representation in Hollywood movies of that era shows high crimes rates, and yet even today while it is the US has one of the highest if not the highest crime rate in the western world, as for Germany, after WW2 Germany was under colonization and army law, Germany was still a strong industrial country, and again that doesn't mean there were no crimes it means the crimes.

If you want to take an example take an example of real poor countries as in today (to have the same media coverage), where goverment can't even enforce the law.

Just one question, when has Islam ever live in peace with their neighbors and in what period has it ever dominance in commerce?

The country I live in, they don't even tolerate the local minority population.
legendary
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You know what. Humans are always willing to kill each others.
Just let it be. It is the human condition. It is natural selection.
Those dumb-ass fanatics waste their resources while we can prosper.
There is always mass murdering on Earth, try to not be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Do you know why we feel so concerned about this small conflict ?
Because we (Europeans & Occidentals) created it and fed it.
We exported our conflicts abroad. That's what we wanted.
Everything is fine. It's just an other day for you an me in paradise.

You're right; the West is probably responsible for most of the stuff going on in the region (and elsewhere), but that seems all the more reason to be concerned about it - especially since we profited handsomely from it. But of course, whether we care about it or not, we're some thousands of kilometers safely away, and won't have to deal with any of the more direct consequences from it, unlike those being slaughtered there.
legendary
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Seems like the Gaza attacks have united the global Muslim population. Recently the Iranian Supreme Leader requested the Sunnis and Shias to stop fighting each other, and concentrate on attacking the Israelis. However, the last time I heard from Iraq the Shias there were still fighting against the Sunni-backed Islamic State.
legendary
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You know what. Humans are always willing to kill each others.
Just let it be. It is the human condition. It is natural selection.
Those dumb-ass fanatics waste their resources while we can prosper.
There is always mass murdering on Earth, try to not be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Do you know why we feel so concerned about this small conflict ?
Because we (Europeans & Occidentals) created it and fed it.
We exported our conflicts abroad. That's what we wanted.
Everything is fine. It's just an other day for you an me in paradise.
hero member
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But essentially you're saying that those with the ability to conquer have the right to shape the future of a country and the people within it. I suppose that has happened a lot historically.

Those with the ability to conquer have the social, economic and technology advantage on their side. They have earn the right to shape other future.

Those who are being conquered should learn their mistake adopt to new way of doing things. Should they correct their mistakse, they too have the right to do the same to their enemies.

And if someone robes or rapes you on the street one day, will you also blame yourself for it?

The social advantage include having law abiding citizens which contribute positively to the country they are residing in.

Raping and robbing happen often in the conquered nations as you often read on the news in Muslim and Hindu countries. Do you think such countries "earn" their right to exists? What surprise me the most is the west often accept these cultures into their country with open arm and invite the same kind of problems with bring down the immigrants own country.


Your argumentation is totally wrong/false, simply because, crimes will always flourish in poor countries/regions no matter what confession they are, and it's not about the culture per say, you mentions Muslim countries for example then lets do a comparison shall we, the amount of crimes in the UAE or Qatar, is much lower than most western countries you are talking about, yet on the other hand, if you take an example of a poor country such as Somalia or Sudan you'll find a lot of problem. it's the circumstances and living conditions, that push people to do such crimes in general not their culture or origin and saying otherwise is just stupid

Do you see this kind of crimes in Japan, South Korea and Singapore when these countries were as pissed poor as Somalia and Sudan? They were in bad position, learn their mistakes and decided to correct their mistakes.

You can also compare it to US before the industry revolution and Germany after WWII and see how quickly the countries recovered from extremely bad position to where they are right now.



Those crimes were in those countries when they were pissed poor, no region escapes from such faith it's in human nature, the only difference is that when those countries were pissed poor as you say, there wasn't remotely as much media coverage as there is now, you can check african countries where Muslims are minority for example, type Central Africa massacre and check for your self and we can take any other example.

Again you are taking bad examples the US before the industrial revolution was poor, the US is a very large very rich country, from agriculture, mineral resources, water, animals ect ect and I'm not going to talk about ethnical cleansing of native population or salevery problems and heck even the representation in Hollywood movies of that era shows high crimes rates, and yet even today while it is the US has one of the highest if not the highest crime rate in the western world, as for Germany, after WW2 Germany was under colonization and army law, Germany was still a strong industrial country, and again that doesn't mean there were no crimes it means the crimes.

If you want to take an example take an example of real poor countries as in today (to have the same media coverage), where goverment can't even enforce the law.
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But essentially you're saying that those with the ability to conquer have the right to shape the future of a country and the people within it. I suppose that has happened a lot historically.

Those with the ability to conquer have the social, economic and technology advantage on their side. They have earn the right to shape other future.

Those who are being conquered should learn their mistake adopt to new way of doing things. Should they correct their mistakse, they too have the right to do the same to their enemies.

And if someone robes or rapes you on the street one day, will you also blame yourself for it?

The social advantage include having law abiding citizens which contribute positively to the country they are residing in.

Raping and robbing happen often in the conquered nations as you often read on the news in Muslim and Hindu countries. Do you think such countries "earn" their right to exists? What surprise me the most is the west often accept these cultures into their country with open arm and invite the same kind of problems with bring down the immigrants own country.


Your argumentation is totally wrong/false, simply because, crimes will always flourish in poor countries/regions no matter what confession they are, and it's not about the culture per say, you mentions Muslim countries for example then lets do a comparison shall we, the amount of crimes in the UAE or Qatar, is much lower than most western countries you are talking about, yet on the other hand, if you take an example of a poor country such as Somalia or Sudan you'll find a lot of problem. it's the circumstances and living conditions, that push people to do such crimes in general not their culture or origin and saying otherwise is just stupid

Do you see this kind of crimes in Japan, South Korea and Singapore when these countries were as pissed poor as Somalia and Sudan? They were in bad position, learn their mistakes and decided to correct their mistakes.

You can also compare it to US before the industry revolution and Germany after WWII and see how quickly the countries recovered from extremely bad position to where they are right now.


hero member
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But essentially you're saying that those with the ability to conquer have the right to shape the future of a country and the people within it. I suppose that has happened a lot historically.

Those with the ability to conquer have the social, economic and technology advantage on their side. They have earn the right to shape other future.

Those who are being conquered should learn their mistake adopt to new way of doing things. Should they correct their mistakse, they too have the right to do the same to their enemies.

And if someone robes or rapes you on the street one day, will you also blame yourself for it?

The social advantage include having law abiding citizens which contribute positively to the country they are residing in.

Raping and robbing happen often in the conquered nations as you often read on the news in Muslim and Hindu countries. Do you think such countries "earn" their right to exists? What surprise me the most is the west often accept these cultures into their country with open arm and invite the same kind of problems with bring down the immigrants own country.


Your argumentation is totally wrong/false, simply because, crimes will always flourish in poor countries/regions no matter what confession they are, and it's not about the culture per say, you mentions Muslim countries for example then lets do a comparison shall we, the amount of crimes in the UAE or Qatar, is much lower than most western countries you are talking about, yet on the other hand, if you take an example of a poor country such as Somalia or Sudan you'll find a lot of problem. it's the circumstances and living conditions, that push people to do such crimes in general not their culture or origin and saying otherwise is just stupid
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all north African youth can write in the same French (de la rue) and the people you are flaming in all your post excels at it.

This people are cool when they don't talk about politics.
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Yes it's a strong logic, every guy who go in a good language school can speak good French, but only a true French can speak the average street teenager French, cause usually people coming to France without be French don't speak with this guy.
all north African youth can write in the same French (de la rue) and the people you are flaming in all your post excels at it.
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Yes it's a strong logic, every guy who go in a good language school can speak good French, but only a true French can speak the average street teenager French, cause usually people coming to France without be French don't speak with this guy.
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THE GAME OF CHANCE. CHANGED.
But essentially you're saying that those with the ability to conquer have the right to shape the future of a country and the people within it. I suppose that has happened a lot historically.

Those with the ability to conquer have the social, economic and technology advantage on their side. They have earn the right to shape other future.

Those who are being conquered should learn their mistake adopt to new way of doing things. Should they correct their mistakse, they too have the right to do the same to their enemies.

And if someone robes or rapes you on the street one day, will you also blame yourself for it?

The social advantage include having law abiding citizens which contribute positively to the country they are residing in.

Raping and robbing happen often in the conquered nations as you often read on the news in Muslim and Hindu countries. Do you think such countries "earn" their right to exists? What surprise me the most is the west often accept these cultures into their country with open arm and invite the same kind of problems with bring down the immigrants own country.
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Wesh gros moi jsuis un vrai français j'y vi depuis toujours la preuve jsais ecrire en mauvais français alors casse moi pas les couilles avec ma légitimité à parler de mon pays, sale mélanchoniste. Et viens pas dire que le FN  est pas socialiste avec ses délires social et protectionistes à la con. D'ailleurs jean marie le pen soutient les palestiniens aussi.
How old are you ? 12? because that's not the kind of reply you would get from a mature person. Français? pas plus que moi en tout cas, Et puis tu me traites de malebranchiste sans même connaitre mon appartenance politique, ce qui, encore une fois, prouve ce que j'ai dit au début de mon commentaire.

Can someone translate?

He is just saying in broken French : "Yo, I am a true French and I always lived in France, and the prove is that I can write in broken French (lol the logic here is too strong)  so don't nag me (actually the literal translation is that stop breaking my balls) over the my legitimacy of speaking about France, you dirty mélanchoniste (follower of Jean Luc Mélanchon which the leader of far left party) and don't come and tell me that the Front National (extreme right party) is not a socialist with all their stupid socialism and protectionism., Also note that Jean Marie LePen (FN previous leader) support Palestine
sr. member
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Can someone translate?

You can't, i have write in a way that only a French can write to prove i'm French. It's not important stuff.
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Unfortunately, it seems that fascism and nazi-ism are trending in the aftermaths of these tensions around the world.

Nazism has never left the world, since it was first introduced. Strangely enough we now see nazism in unexpected countries/races who the nazis wanted to eliminate.

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Wesh gros moi jsuis un vrai français j'y vi depuis toujours la preuve jsais ecrire en mauvais français alors casse moi pas les couilles avec ma légitimité à parler de mon pays, sale mélanchoniste. Et viens pas dire que le FN  est pas socialiste avec ses délires social et protectionistes à la con. D'ailleurs jean marie le pen soutient les palestiniens aussi.

Can someone translate?
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