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legendary
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Yes, I'm an asshole
May 14, 2023, 04:32:30 AM
#36
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If you want to share screenshots, post all of them. How you admitted your bugs and asked us to ignore them.

I take it that, as you've been here for couple of years and been busting scammers a lot, you are aware that providing evidences can be made from both sides? That is one of the purpose of this thread as well as my invitation on the other thread, to let you answer and defend yourself here.

You are more than welcome to give the screenshots from your side, and... uhh... what's the words? Ahhh... speak with proof and let the audience decide for themselves..
legendary
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May 14, 2023, 02:33:28 AM
#35
You know how hard we're trying & published +200 articles about scam alerts, Crypto hacks, Safe assets, and NFT abuses &  you NEVER EVER helped us and NOW playing on the wrong team.   Sad[/size]
Beside not doing a very good job at scambusting (not providing proper evidence for your claims), my main problem with you is that you simply don't understand how wrong it is to increase the rating just because someone paid you $1000.

Care to explain how is that possible, how caan some project immediately get better because they paid what you asked for?
hero member
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Signature designer - start @$10 - PM me!
May 13, 2023, 10:19:33 PM
#34

I think it's still on point. I mean, can even a legitimate project be beaten by a less influential review company? If they only need $1k not to post bullshit reviews, at least you have a bigger allocation than that to pay for other ad services that drive your project's visibility faster. In the end, they fell far behind and catching up was a waste of time.
On my side, they'renot a big bully tbh. I had never even heard of their site.

Glad to hear about us now.
Suppose we are a bunch of stupid frauds who extort money from people
Does this change the truth about the documents we expose about the projects? Smiley

We have analyzed dozen projects so far. From scam projects to good ICOs.
Maybe we can take money and make weak projects look good, but can we destroy good projects with lies? While every paragraph comes with evidence and so far 90% of the scams that we exposed have been proven.[/b]
Some of my questions:
  • Was the offer of $1k valid (assuming only a friendly offer, no extortion at all)?
  • (if you answered yes to the question above) In the title of the published article[1]  of course this sounds bad for readers in general, but is it okay for you to still offer marketing services to projects that you mark yourself as a risk?
  • What will you do if BKS hires marketing services, I mean will you still publish the same article[1] on your site? Or will you speak differently elsewhere?

    1. https://antidolos.com/backstage-bks-blockchain-is-a-high-potential-on-the-downslide/
jr. member
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May 13, 2023, 06:42:17 PM
#33

This project is not scam. We only published the strengths and weaknesses and they can pay to promote THIS ARTICLE and people rate it more and more.
But we never said: we change facts and weaknesses or remove your article for money.  Undecided

You know what is the problem? That you never bother yourself to check our site Smiley[/size]

So you are correct and these people that tag you are all wrong based on how you defend yourself
you seem to be good in English but it is easy to understand even for a none native English member that you are extorting people because you are offering $1000 and you're also offering to give it a good score


How many sites do you know that work honestly in this market since 01/01/2020?

Do U have any idea how many scams we've exposed so far?
Do U know how many people ask our help to return their stolen BTC?
Do U know how many cases we've as victims' representatives in Cybercrime courts in China, India, and the US?

Yes, they are 100% wrong, and instead of focusing on the content and facts, lost the point and they are trying to accuse AntiDolos. Undecided
AntiDolos= Anti + Dolos (The goddess of trickery, lie, and cleverness)

You know how hard we're trying & published +200 articles about scam alerts, Crypto hacks, Safe assets, and NFT abuses &  you NEVER EVER helped us and NOW playing on the wrong team.   Sad
sr. member
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May 13, 2023, 06:13:21 PM
#32

This project is not scam. We only published the strengths and weaknesses and they can pay to promote THIS ARTICLE and people rate it more and more.
But we never said: we change facts and weaknesses or remove your article for money.  Undecided

You know what is the problem? That you never bother yourself to check our site Smiley[/size]

So you are correct and these people that tag you are all wrong based on how you defend yourself
you seem to be good in English but it is easy to understand even for a none native English member that you are extorting people because you are offering $1000 and you're also offering to give it a good score

jr. member
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May 13, 2023, 05:49:09 PM
#31
I wish you had checked our articles at least once before giving us a red flag. We say that some project is fraudulent because of some reasons. Can you deny that reason?
We say this project does not have a team. That project does not have a roadmap or business plan.
Why do you focus on the sidelines instead of paying attention to the main story?
Please anyone who has ever paid us to change an article come forward and share proof.
We are one of the few sites that working so hard and honestly for 3 years to help people.
I don't care if the project is fraudulent or not, but the fact that you are willing to up the score for a fee says something about you. It simply means even if the project was truly fraudulent, for a price, you will turn a blind eye to the red flags and convince your audience that the project is legitimate

You can not be trusted

We also know how to read and comprehend. Read your reply again




I suggest that instead of spending your time on FUD Antidolos, you should talk about your project and the weaknesses we have mentioned. Your project is not bad and a 6.1 score is suitable for it. But if you think this is unfair, you can explain it instead of trying to challenge our honest mission with a bunch of lies.

Everything is good until this was posted


And until now you haven't addressed this issue, there is extortion on this screenshot and we all have that impression, now tell us if this is not extorting $1000 for a good rate what is it?

Plz, read the screenshot completely.
The rate section is not important and is "open interaction" and anyone can give a score to every parameter and change the total score  Cheesy.

This project is not scam. We only published the strengths and weaknesses and they can pay to promote THIS ARTICLE and people rate it more and more.
But we never said: we change facts and weaknesses or remove your article for money.  Undecided

You know what is the problem? That you never bother yourself to check our site Smiley
sr. member
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May 13, 2023, 05:12:45 PM
#30

I suggest that instead of spending your time on FUD Antidolos, you should talk about your project and the weaknesses we have mentioned. Your project is not bad and a 6.1 score is suitable for it. But if you think this is unfair, you can explain it instead of trying to challenge our honest mission with a bunch of lies.

Everything is good until this was posted



And until now you haven't addressed this issue, there is extortion on this screenshot and we all have that impression, now tell us if this is not extorting $1000 for a good rate what is it?
jr. member
Activity: 51
Merit: 1
May 13, 2023, 05:02:42 PM
#29
What happened: AntiDolos tried to extort me by publishing bullshit review of a project where I am Co-Founder and if I pay $1000 they would give us a much higher rating. In his review that is not public yet he made a lot of false accusations, from having fake team members to faking partnerships which is just not true. Article is not yet published on their website and we got preview version of it and I guess they wanted to wait and see whether we gonna give them $1000.

Website: https://antidolos.com/
User: AntiDolos

Backstage website https://bksbackstage.io/

One of his claims is that we (Backstage) are falsely advertising partnerships with parties that we have no connections whatsoever and that's simply not true.




For example, this is a tweet from Haash verified official account with 5.6 million followers where they mention Backstage as a place where you can buy VIP Meet & Greet tickets for their North America tour.

Backstage marketplace https://www.bkstage.io/


https://twitter.com/haashoficial/status/1643048481836212228?t=tnXS_HRgy33HPC8QbDgtTg&s=19


In the top right corner you can see Backstage logo as we are partners with Aspendos which is an ancient theater in Turkey that hosts shows of top world stars like Placido Domingo.


https://www.aspendos.live/


Professional UFC fighter Kelvin Gastelum published on his official Instagram account with more than 500k followers about being Backstage ambassador.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CerdfsiPj3a/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


Telegram message where AntiDolos asks $1000 for higher rating


His telegram username @Antidolos_admin


One of the more ridiculous claims is that we "don't have token yet" while we actually wanted to fully develop business before launching the token and that's exactly why so many tokens failed-they have nothing behind it while we have a real business that is already bringing revenue and we are not in hurry to publish token and dump it on investors like majority of others are doing.




I could go on but I think that this is enough to prove that AntiDolos has no clue what he is talking about, didn't make a proper research and has no honest intention to protect the community.
I couldn't even care less about his review if he didn't try to actually extort me and that's when I decided to publish this so the same thing won't happen to others.

If you want to do your own research about Backstage, you can start here:

https://t.co/7165whXYbL


I suggest that instead of spending your time on FUD Antidolos, you should talk about your project and the weaknesses we have mentioned. Your project is not bad and a 6.1 score is suitable for it. But if you think this is unfair, you can explain it instead of trying to challenge our honest mission with a bunch of lies.

If you want to share screenshots, post all of them. How you admitted your bugs and asked us to ignore them.
legendary
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Heisenberg
May 13, 2023, 04:57:36 PM
#28
I wish you had checked our articles at least once before giving us a red flag. We say that some project is fraudulent because of some reasons. Can you deny that reason?
We say this project does not have a team. That project does not have a roadmap or business plan.
Why do you focus on the sidelines instead of paying attention to the main story?
Please anyone who has ever paid us to change an article come forward and share proof.
We are one of the few sites that working so hard and honestly for 3 years to help people.
I don't care if the project is fraudulent or not, but the fact that you are willing to up the score for a fee says something about you. It simply means even if the project was truly fraudulent, for a price, you will turn a blind eye to the red flags and convince your audience that the project is legitimate

You can not be trusted

We also know how to read and comprehend. Read your reply again

jr. member
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Merit: 1
May 13, 2023, 04:37:47 PM
#27
I see that he did something similar in the past with the Ideaology project in this thread: Is Ideaology.io scam or a great opportunity? [archive]

First, he published a very negative review claiming that the project was too risky and worthless, with an amateur and inexperienced team.

However, after just under a month, he completely changed his story and deleted (or denied) almost all of his claims from the original review, ultimately giving the project a high 8.5/10 rating. Now, I don't know if the owners of the Ideaology project paid for a positive review, and that will be hard to prove unless they publicly admit it themselves, but realistically, what could cause such a drastic change of opinion in such a short time? If you're going to write reviews, at least try to be objective and free of personal biases so you don't have to contradict your own words.

Ideaology (IDEA) IEO, Risky but Profitable! (Updated Dec 22, 2020)

And, according to the date stated, that update was made only a week after Amar Kovacevic from Ideaology publicly accused them of abuse and blackmail.

That's it for me

So he was playing a tricky game. Reporting projects as scam and then extorting them funds in exchange for a better review while at the same time trying to falsely gain reputation from the forum as someone trying to legitimately expose scam

I will leave my tag as well.

And trust flag - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3160

I wish you had checked our articles at least once before giving us a red flag. We say that some project is fraudulent because of some reasons. Can you deny that reason?
We say this project does not have a team. That project does not have a roadmap or business plan.
Why do you focus on the sidelines instead of paying attention to the main story?
Please anyone who has ever paid us to change an article come forward and share proof.
We are one of the few sites that working so hard and honestly for 3 years to help people.




1. As we said at Antidolos.com, All reviews are free, and we don't charge for any project.
But if a project wants to use our non-free marketing campaigns, they are welcome to use our extra services.
https://antidolos.com/digital-marketing-services/
This is nothing to be ashamed of
Problem is that you didn't just offer marketing services but instead you offered higher rating in case they paid $1k dollars. Care to explain how project can automatically get higher rating in case they paid you that fee and go from 6.1 to 8+?

By the way, its against forum rules to post consecutive posts like you did. On top of that, you just copy/pasted one answer to all of those that asked you questions.



We NEVER asked money to change facts. We just said that if you want, you can pay and use our extra services and work together. We published their article 6 days ago. Before we see this topic. In a series of parameters they are strong and in some very weak. Do you ignore this fact?
The fact is we only share evidence.



You are missing the point, to me that website and them are completely irrelevant. What is relevant here is that this is unethical, shady business, that tries to squeeze money from shitty projects who care about this type of nonsense. Despite shitty projects are working against all of us in this space, nobody deserves to be extorted or scammed.

I think it's still on point. I mean, can even a legitimate project be beaten by a less influential review company? If they only need $1k not to post bullshit reviews, at least you have a bigger allocation than that to pay for other ad services that drive your project's visibility faster. In the end, they fell far behind and catching up was a waste of time.
On my side, they'renot a big bully tbh. I had never even heard of their site.

Glad to hear about us now.
Suppose we are a bunch of stupid frauds who extort money from people
Does this change the truth about the documents we expose about the projects? Smiley

We have analyzed dozen projects so far. From scam projects to good ICOs.
Maybe we can take money and make weak projects look good, but can we destroy good projects with lies? While every paragraph comes with evidence and so far 90% of the scams that we exposed have been proven.
legendary
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May 13, 2023, 04:33:20 PM
#26
1. As we said at Antidolos.com, All reviews are free, and we don't charge for any project.
But if a project wants to use our non-free marketing campaigns, they are welcome to use our extra services.
https://antidolos.com/digital-marketing-services/
This is nothing to be ashamed of
Problem is that you didn't just offer marketing services but instead you offered higher rating in case they paid $1k dollars. Care to explain how project can automatically get higher rating in case they paid you that fee and go from 6.1 to 8+?

By the way, its against forum rules to post consecutive posts like you did. On top of that, you just copy/pasted one answer to all of those that asked you questions.
jr. member
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Merit: 1
May 13, 2023, 03:57:09 PM
#25
Not that I am a big fan of NFTs, IDOs, IEOSs ICOs… you name it, but this looks like a clear extortion attempt.

I would like @AntiDolos to come to this thread and tell us why they are asking for money in exchange for a higher review score. Failure to do so in a couple of day means I will leave them a negative rating and even create a support a flag against their profile.

Hello. We are happy to talk here.

1. As we said at Antidolos.com, All reviews are free, and we don't charge for any project.
But if a project wants to use our non-free marketing campaigns, they are welcome to use our extra services.
https://antidolos.com/digital-marketing-services/
This is nothing to be ashamed of

2. We shared the Backstage (BKS) private draft (5.5 score) with the founder and asked them for explanations. We wanted to hear their words before doing anything. After receiving the documents and explanations, we found some of them convincing and published the final version with a score of 6.1.  Undecided

3. I ask you to do something.
Suppose all our words are nonsense. Read the review for yourself.
https://antidolos.com/backstage-bks-blockchain-is-a-high-potential-on-the-downslide/

If these are false accusations, then why do Backstage founders are so worried?  Smiley
We only expose the strengths and weaknesses of projects with evidence.
But the final decision is with the audience.

4. Please speak with proof and let the audience decide for themselves..  Embarrassed




What happened: AntiDolos tried to extort me by publishing bullshit review of a project where I am Co-Founder and if I pay $1000 they would give us a much higher rating. In his review that is not public yet he made a lot of false accusations, from having fake team members to faking partnerships which is just not true. Article is not yet published on their website and we got preview version of it and I guess they wanted to wait and see whether we gonna give them $1000.
It's not that I don't trust your claims, but if you are going to post stuff like this about bitcointalk member than you better provide some proof of conversation and threats.
This can be posted as redacted screenshots from email, telegram or other services you used for conversation.
I would also like to hear AntiDolos side of story before making any decision here.


Hello. We are happy to talk here.

1. As we said at Antidolos.com, All reviews are free, and we don't charge for any project.
But if a project wants to use our non-free marketing campaigns, they are welcome to use our extra services.
https://antidolos.com/digital-marketing-services/
This is nothing to be ashamed of

2. We shared the Backstage (BKS) private draft (5.5 score) with the founder and asked them for explanations. We wanted to hear their words before doing anything. After receiving the documents and explanations, we found some of them convincing and published the final version with a score of 6.1.  Undecided

3. I ask you to do something.
Suppose all our words are nonsense. Read the review for yourself.
https://antidolos.com/backstage-bks-blockchain-is-a-high-potential-on-the-downslide/

If these are false accusations, then why do Backstage founders are so worried?  Smiley
We only expose the strengths and weaknesses of projects with evidence.
But the final decision is with the audience.

4. Please speak with proof and let the audience decide for themselves..  Embarrassed





Well you can see the screenshot from Telegram, in which he asks for money to provide an 8+ review instead of 6.4 or whatever. I literally have the entire chat log saved with entire communications exchange in which I shared entire pitch deck with all the legal documentation about the company, Hacken audits on all tech and smart contracts, Legal opinions and all the documentation that goes to serious investors before they make a decision about investment so he can see that everything we do is more then real and true. Which I don't see the reason to post here, he can do it if he saved it, even though none of it is for public, but for investors at this stage.

Anyway it is clearly visible what he is doing and if anyone does the research on what we are and what we are doing as a company, pretty fast all his claims turn to baseless claims and open grounds for a lawsuit, if we thought that his false claims could harm our business, which we don't.

I posted this only so he doesn't do this to other people.


Based on their post they are here to expose scam ICO and NFT https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/antidolos-2838673 and you have become their target to backup and shill their platform for you to get their service yes there's extortion on this if they cannot prove that what they are posting is not true
This is bad business and unethical if they are propagating false information just to promote their service I support @Jerome Tash call to explain their side here, and prove they're right about publishing their reviews about your platform.

Hello. We are happy to talk here.

1. As we said at Antidolos.com, All reviews are free, and we don't charge for any project.
But if a project wants to use our non-free marketing campaigns, they are welcome to use our extra services.
https://antidolos.com/digital-marketing-services/
This is nothing to be ashamed of

2. We shared the Backstage (BKS) private draft (5.5 score) with the founder and asked them for explanations. We wanted to hear their words before doing anything. After receiving the documents and explanations, we found some of them convincing and published the final version with a score of 6.1.  Undecided

3. I ask you to do something.
Suppose all our words are nonsense. Read the review for yourself.
https://antidolos.com/backstage-bks-blockchain-is-a-high-potential-on-the-downslide/

If these are false accusations, then why do Backstage founders are so worried?  Smiley
We only expose the strengths and weaknesses of projects with evidence.
But the final decision is with the audience.

4. Please speak with proof and let the audience decide for themselves..  Embarrassed



Well you can see the screenshot from Telegram, in which he asks for money to provide an 8+ review instead of 6.4 or whatever.
Yeah I see it, but that doesn't look like a threat or extortion scam to me.
We all know how most rating websites work, you pay more and you get higher rankings, nothing new about that.



Yes, but when OP declined or ignore the offer they published negative reviews of the project, will they publish that review if the project did get their service, they have a lot of projects that they've reviewed did they do the same, offering their service and when they declined they publish bad feedbacks.
They have a lot of explaining to do, or people will doubt their reviews if it's coming from extortion or if these projects really believe in their service.

We have a free service line: publishing rating and reviews without getting any money. If you check our site, you will find that we introduced both fraud and high potential projects 100% real and free.
We have a non-free line: If a project want extra ads and marketing they can use our services, and we are NOT ashamed of it.
But in the end, we never change the facts for money.

Plz never trust anything until you check the fact and evidence.



I saw some of the older AntiDolos reviews and I suspected that he is a shitty and lazy scambuster (I even warned him few months ago that he has to provide some proof for his claims) but it looks like his main goal is not to protect ignorant investors but to actually profit from this by offering higher rating for money.


We all know how most rating websites work, you pay more and you get higher rankings, nothing new about that.
True, we all know how these rating sites work but in my eyes AntiDolos is even worse because he presented himself here as someone who exposes scams while it looks like that is secondary thing to them and instead they are just another shitty rating site like ICObench that can't be trusted.

By the way, I found an interesting claim on their website. So much about being non profit media.  Wink




I am really looking forward to hear what he can say in his defense.


1. As we said at Antidolos.com, All reviews are free, and we don't charge for any project.
But if a project wants to use our non-free marketing campaigns, they are welcome to use our extra services.
https://antidolos.com/digital-marketing-services/
This is nothing to be ashamed of

2. We shared the Backstage (BKS) private draft (5.5 score) with the founder and asked them for explanations. We wanted to hear their words before doing anything. After receiving the documents and explanations, we found some of them convincing and published the final version with a score of 6.1.  Undecided

3. I ask you to do something.
Suppose all our words are nonsense. Read the review for yourself.
https://antidolos.com/backstage-bks-blockchain-is-a-high-potential-on-the-downslide/

If these are false accusations, then why do Backstage founders are so worried?  Smiley
We only expose the strengths and weaknesses of projects with evidence.
But the final decision is with the audience.

4. Please speak with proof and let the audience decide for themselves..  Embarrassed



Well you can see the screenshot from Telegram, in which he asks for money to provide an 8+ review instead of 6.4 or whatever.
Yeah I see it, but that doesn't look like a threat or extortion scam to me.
We all know how most rating websites work, you pay more and you get higher rankings, nothing new about that.

The extortion also came in form of fake review.

They're giving OP a preview of the draft they'll publish in case OP refused to pay. I peeked at their review page and see that there's no article yet about BKS, so I think the screenshot given by them --and from them, posted by OP here-- is indeed the draft.



Given its a false information which will be published if OP refuse to pay, I think that can be considered as an extortion and not how most --honest-- rating website works.

1. As we said at Antidolos.com, All reviews are free, and we don't charge for any project.
But if a project wants to use our non-free marketing campaigns, they are welcome to use our extra services.
https://antidolos.com/digital-marketing-services/
This is nothing to be ashamed of

2. We shared the Backstage (BKS) private draft (5.5 score) with the founder and asked them for explanations. We wanted to hear their words before doing anything. After receiving the documents and explanations, we found some of them convincing and published the final version with a score of 6.1.  Undecided

3. I ask you to do something.
Suppose all our words are nonsense. Read the review for yourself.
https://antidolos.com/backstage-bks-blockchain-is-a-high-potential-on-the-downslide/

If these are false accusations, then why do Backstage founders are so worried?  Smiley
We only expose the strengths and weaknesses of projects with evidence.
But the final decision is with the audience.

4. Please speak with proof and let the audience decide for themselves..  Embarrassed



Well you can see the screenshot from Telegram, in which he asks for money to provide an 8+ review instead of 6.4 or whatever.
Yeah I see it, but that doesn't look like a threat or extortion scam to me.
We all know how most rating websites work, you pay more and you get higher rankings, nothing new about that.

I second this. It's a common practice, but only if you know you can't get a higher score.

E.g. if someone would give Stake a 10/10 and me a 7/10 because I don't have a specific service or provider, then that's cool, I know I can't compete with Stake.
But if someone would intentionally give me 2/10 although we both know that I'm a 7/10, and then asking for more money to get me up, then I would complain.

Additionally, if the person had previous scam accusations then I would lean more on to the "ok I'm getting scammed here" side.

Thank you for your logical explanation.
We've been publishing our opinion about projects with documents and evidences for more than 3 years. This is our opinion and we do not change it with or without money.
Finally, it is up to audience to put the pieces together and decide on an investment.




I looked at this site a bit, they are completely irrelevant, and the statistics on their site say so. Obviously, the business idea here is to charge for "good reviews" for new ICOs and NFTs.

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@-CryptoViking- create a red flag on this profile, it will mark the account more visibly.

Thank you for posting what we already shared on the site. We've never claim anything and only share our comments and experiences to users FOR FREE. Why are they so worried about our reviews if a bunch of nonsense? Isn't better to allow the audience to read and decide by themselves?



I saw some of the older AntiDolos reviews and I suspected that he is a shitty and lazy scambuster (I even warned him few months ago that he has to provide some proof for his claims) but it look like his main goal is not to protect ignorant investors but to actually profit from this by offering higher rating for money.

I see that he did something similar in the past with the Ideaology project in this thread: Is Ideaology.io scam or a great opportunity? [archive]

First, he published a very negative review claiming that the project was too risky and worthless, with an amateur and inexperienced team.

However, after just under a month, he completely changed his story and deleted (or denied) almost all of his claims from the original review, ultimately giving the project a high 8.5/10 rating. Now, I don't know if the owners of the Ideaology project paid for a positive review, and that will be hard to prove unless they publicly admit it themselves, but realistically, what could cause such a drastic change of opinion in such a short time? If you're going to write reviews, at least try to be objective and free of personal biases so you don't have to contradict your own words.

Ideaology (IDEA) IEO, Risky but Profitable! (Updated Dec 22, 2020)

And, according to the date stated, that update was made only a week after Amar Kovacevic from Ideaology publicly accused them of abuse and blackmail.


This is exactly a clear example of our honesty. Every time we write a review, we first share it with the owners. We will update our report whenever they fix the issues. This is what we have been doing for the past 3 years and we have never received any money for it. As we told the Backstage (BKS) managers, whenever they fix their bugs, we will update the report.



If they've been doing this for a long period of time and on many projects then they are just busted with OP's revelation, other projects should come here to support OP's allegations, scammers are willing to pay that amount if they are going to get more money from these reviews.
They are guilty of supporting scammers if positive reviews are being paid, they even fooled people by posting on their site that they do not receive payment, they deserve a negative tag and a flag.

1. As we said at Antidolos.com, All reviews are free, and we don't charge for any project.
But if a project wants to use our non-free marketing campaigns, they are welcome to use our extra services.
https://antidolos.com/digital-marketing-services/
This is nothing to be ashamed of

2. We shared the Backstage (BKS) private draft (5.5 score) with the founder and asked them for explanations. We wanted to hear their words before doing anything. After receiving the documents and explanations, we found some of them convincing and published the final version with a score of 6.1.  Undecided

3. I ask you to do something.
Suppose all our words are nonsense. Read the review for yourself.
https://antidolos.com/backstage-bks-blockchain-is-a-high-potential-on-the-downslide/

If these are false accusations, then why do Backstage founders are so worried?  Smiley
We only expose the strengths and weaknesses of projects with evidence.
But the final decision is with the audience.

4. Please speak with proof and let the audience decide for themselves..  Embarrassed
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May 05, 2023, 03:49:01 AM
#24
You are missing the point, to me that website and them are completely irrelevant. What is relevant here is that this is unethical, shady business, that tries to squeeze money from shitty projects who care about this type of nonsense. Despite shitty projects are working against all of us in this space, nobody deserves to be extorted or scammed.

I think it's still on point. I mean, can even a legitimate project be beaten by a less influential review company? If they only need $1k not to post bullshit reviews, at least you have a bigger allocation than that to pay for other ad services that drive your project's visibility faster. In the end, they fell far behind and catching up was a waste of time.
On my side, they'renot a big bully tbh. I had never even heard of their site.
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May 04, 2023, 05:31:57 PM
#23

That's it for me

So he was playing a tricky game. Reporting projects as scam and then extorting them funds in exchange for a better review while at the same time trying to falsely gain reputation from the forum as someone trying to legitimately expose scam

I will leave my tag as well.

And trust flag - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3160

I'm glad you did, supported the flag, this antidolos is pretending to be a scam buster using Bitcointalk as a platform but in reality, he is just using it to extort, well it ends here, his happy days are over, he will still use his review site to review but since his character and intention is exposed people already knows that he is just extorting money and his readers and followers will discard him for good.
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May 04, 2023, 04:55:36 PM
#22
I see that he did something similar in the past with the Ideaology project in this thread: Is Ideaology.io scam or a great opportunity? [archive]

First, he published a very negative review claiming that the project was too risky and worthless, with an amateur and inexperienced team.

However, after just under a month, he completely changed his story and deleted (or denied) almost all of his claims from the original review, ultimately giving the project a high 8.5/10 rating. Now, I don't know if the owners of the Ideaology project paid for a positive review, and that will be hard to prove unless they publicly admit it themselves, but realistically, what could cause such a drastic change of opinion in such a short time? If you're going to write reviews, at least try to be objective and free of personal biases so you don't have to contradict your own words.

Ideaology (IDEA) IEO, Risky but Profitable! (Updated Dec 22, 2020)

And, according to the date stated, that update was made only a week after Amar Kovacevic from Ideaology publicly accused them of abuse and blackmail.

That's it for me

So he was playing a tricky game. Reporting projects as scam and then extorting them funds in exchange for a better review while at the same time trying to falsely gain reputation from the forum as someone trying to legitimately expose scam

I will leave my tag as well.

And trust flag - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3160
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May 04, 2023, 03:55:30 PM
#21
I don't know the whole history with AntiDolos, and I am not defending them at all, I only wrote my opinion based on OP post and images he posted.
Yeah I know, I didn't think that you are defending AntiDolos in any way.


Maybe you know AntiDolos better as I hear he offered you to ''work'' with him before  Cheesy
Oh yeah, me and him are BFF. Grin 

Joke aside he did offer me cooperation a couple of years ago but obviously I wasn't interested. Good for him because if I accepted his offer and saw what he is doing, I would have tagged him years ago.
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May 04, 2023, 12:37:31 PM
#20
True, we all know how these rating sites work but in my eyes AntiDolos is even worse because he presented himself here as someone who exposes scams while it looks like that is secondary thing to them and instead they are just another shitty rating site like ICObench that can't be trusted.
I don't know the whole history with AntiDolos, and I am not defending them at all, I only wrote my opinion based on OP post and images he posted.
Maybe you know AntiDolos better as I hear he offered you to ''work'' with him before  Cheesy

I second this. It's a common practice, but only if you know you can't get a higher score.
Well you know how this things work better than me Wink
I am sure there are bunch of scammers in crypto who would do anything for money, all I asked from OP is to provide more evidence and I would gladly support him.

There is no such honest rating website. How would you think they get their business or even pay for the hosting and website maintainence?
I agree but only partially, ratings can be tricky especially if money is involved.
For me best practice would be to add notice that you received payments from some service for listing or rating.

This is textbook extortion. Here is a draft of a bad review, pay me money and I will make it way better. As I said I don't care, but others will and did and will and did pay.
Textbook extortion would be if he continued to bully you with phone, email, telegram, etc asking for more money, even after you clearly told him NO.
If Nigerian prince sends me email asking for money and I pay him, this is not extortion, but my stupidity.
 
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May 04, 2023, 10:26:21 AM
#19
I couldn't even care less about his review if he didn't try to actually extort me and that's when I decided to publish this so the same thing won't happen to others.

But do you think that a $1k review by one service can turn such a scam project into a legit one? What is the actual potential value of your project and is your visibility marketing budget lower than $1k?

If the antidolos (unpublished) claim is untrue, then there is no need to worry about any blackmail here and move on. However I'm still curious about the antidolos investigation of this project. hehe

You are missing the point, to me that website and them are completely irrelevant. What is relevant here is that this is unethical, shady business, that tries to squeeze money from shitty projects who care about this type of nonsense. Despite shitty projects are working against all of us in this space, nobody deserves to be extorted or scammed.

If you or anyone wants to investigate Backstage and what we are doing I welcome that 100%.


Yeah I see it, but that doesn't look like a threat or extortion scam to me.
We all know how most rating websites work, you pay more and you get higher rankings, nothing new about that.



This is textbook extortion. Here is a draft of a bad review, pay me money and I will make it way better. As I said I don't care, but others will and did and will and did pay.
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May 04, 2023, 09:16:54 AM
#18
If they've been doing this for a long period of time and on many projects then they are just busted with OP's revelation, other projects should come here to support OP's allegations, scammers are willing to pay that amount if they are going to get more money from these reviews.
They are guilty of supporting scammers if positive reviews are being paid, they even fooled people by posting on their site that they do not receive payment, they deserve a negative tag and a flag.
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May 04, 2023, 09:03:15 AM
#17
They need to be honest because they are risking losing followers and about where they are going to get funds to maintain and make a profit from their reviews, there is such a thing as an affiliate, take the case of gambling reviews if the operators of these gambling review sites are honest, they are likely to get more active referrals from casinos, people first look on how honest the reviews are before joining,
Lol are you serious? If you think that they have to be honest, find me a ICO rating site that can be trusted.

Fyi, they don't really care about being honest simply because they make more money by selling fake ratings to scams than they would by adds or whatever else they are selling on these platforms. On top of that, their business model is completely different than gambling review sites.

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