I also got scammed by this one.
I wanted to buy from this topic.
i wanted to do escrow, no problem from him. He told me to place a message in the topic of SebastianJu. I wil get an automatic email with the escrow info.
after this i transferred the funds.....after this was done he told me that he could not sell the items to me because his manager needed to sell3 units so i needed to add more funds. At this moment i also got a PM message from SebastianJu with the announcement that the walletadress was NOT his. and i have been scammed.
I told Anitkonti this and he told me that my money was NEVER in escrow, but with him from the start. I needed to add another 2k then i could recieve the units. If i would not transfer the 2K he would keep the 5K as donation.
This is what he indeed did. All proof on skype log
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
at least i can do something from me
then i will recieve 3 * L3+ antminers including AWP3+++ psu and free shipping
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ma
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
to make the things better for you
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ma
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
yes
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
I'm so sorry again iwan but that's the best i can do
i will make the transaction today...
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ma
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i can understand that u are mad at me, but i can't do anything else than cover the shipping
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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
thank you sso much for the understanding
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i will ship the units tomorrow
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and provide u tracking number soon as possible
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ok?
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and please, msg me here once it was send to check escrow wallet. if u can send 2000 not 1950$ so i can cover at least 50$ less because my boss is fucking me anyway with 400$
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
but if u can't do 2000 instead of 1950 i will understand
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no problem
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i made mistake now i should take the responsibility
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
okk?
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i need confirmation so i can tell my manager
i confirm, i will make the transaction today
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ma
again...when this goes well, i wil place a larger order...
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ok
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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
thanks for the understanding. msg me when ubsend to eacrow
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ok?
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
let me know
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
hello ?
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
............
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
I hope u will fix this soon as possible tomorrow so we can send the miners
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i just got an pm message from sebastianju
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07:39
should i say more???......
i cannot imagine you can sleep at night
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i am working my ass off to earn money and you with little effort scamming me from my money.
this makes me SO VERY ANGREE......
the way how you manipulate people
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
what
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11:57
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no one scammed u
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
what message
the btc wallet is NOT sebastianju's wallet
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11:58
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
yes it is
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it is YOUR so called escrow wallet
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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
show me this message
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on moment
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Quote from: Nawikre on January 22, 2018, 04:41:53 PM
Sebastianju,
is this a correct wallet adress?Huh(see below, as i got this adress from you when i placed a remark in your topic) is this your wallet adress for the escrow service as i just got a request to send more money as they said they could not deliver the goods for this price, i need to order another unit bla bla.
On 21 January 2018 at 13:46, iwan kreft wrote:
Sebastian,
i already got an automated email with a wallet adres, i already used that one.
17xC7bwSLCDHGuEtRrZKdW4bL7GuYPwQqT
sorry for that...but the seller told me that he had used your service before and i should just send an email or post a topic and then everything is automatic.
On 21 January 2018 at 13:20, SebastianJu wrote:
Hello.
I am SebastianJu from bitcointalk.
You can verify my email address here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18640
I am ready to escrow 4800$
Please send the payment here
1CXZKvnVT28oXCsJuCvZc1irdFi8rV4b7d
Sorry but that wasn't me. You have been scammed unfortunately. I disabled the email address now so that it doesn't show up anymore. Did he spoof my email address?
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Sebastion send me a pm with the messages that it is NOT his escrow adress, so stop lying
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11:59
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
this is email ?
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how can you live with yourself...scamming people like this......with MY hard working money
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12:00
no PM on the forum
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
iwan stop talk bullshit
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12:00
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
let me contact him and ask whats going on
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no one scam from u
oke
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12:00
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
don't make me angry
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12:00
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont call me with bad name
you MAKE ME ANGREE
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12:00
but ask him
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
\no one is here to steal from u !!!!!
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12:00
no problem
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12:00
well, it is NOT sebastianju's wallet....
but ask him...please do
let's HO
HOPE this is a misunderstanding, but i doubt it
please also send you question to me in a CC
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
I can't believe this
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12:06
get in contact with SEbastianju and send put me in a CC with the communication
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12:07
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i got email from 2 hours
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12:07
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
did u even check ur email
what did you get??
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12:07
i have checked my email, that is why this is all happening
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i cant believe escrows do that mistake
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12:08
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i receive email he says: Sorry i did not check my sent messages from the automated system, will contact the buyer asap.
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
is this joke or something ?
copy paste his message
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12:08
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
that's what his message says
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12:09
copy paste his message here
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12:09
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
Seems like there was misunderstanding, I didn't check my sent messages on email from the automated system. Contacting the buyer right now
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12:11
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
this is the full message
i will ask him if he has sent this email...no problem
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12:11
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ok
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12:12
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
did u receive email ???
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i need to know whats going on
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i dont want mistakes or problems
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we respect all our customers
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and i dont like to be called with bad name
you told me that you haad everything packed, dhl sticker on it etc, but you could not ship it out because you must send out 3 pcs...correct?
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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
it is correct and everything is ready to be shipped
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12:14
take a picture of the parcel incl shipping label then
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12:15
to confirm that you have everything ready for shipping
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
package is on Germany, as it is noted on my thread shipping is from Germany, I'm not in germany
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offcourse, how convieniant
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12:15
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
excuse me ?
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12:15
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
before u continue to talk bad this to me check email from escrow !!!!
you cannot proove to me, that everything you told me is true
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12:16
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
yes i can ! this is misunderstanding
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12:16
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and its not my fault that escrow not checking his wallets
the point is...how can i/we resolve this
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12:16
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
escrow will resolve this not us !
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12:16
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no one here is to steal ur money !!!
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no one here can steal your money
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
please !
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
before you write bad things please check !
i do not have the energy left to write bad things...
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12:17
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
then check before write !!!!
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12:17
i already lost more then $8000,00
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12:17
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
it makes no sense to steal from someone 4-6k usd consider people buying from us and we will ruin our name
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12:17
i do not even know WHAT to check
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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
it is escrow mistake
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12:17
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
check ur email because consider we receive email from escrow
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you should receive to
i only recieved email from Sebastian, not escrow
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12:18
gmail.com
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
check ur email
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12:18
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
spam
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we always receive in spam his messages because his email is "
[email protected]"
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
bitmessage.ch is unknown domain to gmail
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i can't believe u blame us we will steal your money lol
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
did u check ur email ???
i just got an email with the text
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12:23
i have sent SebastianJu a pm with this email to see if it indeed is his email...
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
it is noted on his profile.
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12:24
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
I'm mad escrow put me on that situation and u call me with bad name
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
what he msg u on email ?
waiting for a pm from him
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12:28
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
Screenshot
Captured with Lightshot
Lightshot
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12:32
got it too.....the problem is that SebastianJu was just online on the forum....
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12:32
So i will wait for his answer
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
iwan
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12:33
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
he's gone for 2 weeks
as i do NOT believe he is gone for 14 days
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12:33
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
lol
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12:33
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
check the screenshot
i am not blind......but i will talk to him on PM
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12:33
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no one is going to pm you
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12:34
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i already received 2 emails
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont make me mad
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
my manager will kill me
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no one is going to pm us, already received 2 pms we can proceed the payment and he wont be here for 2 weeks
hope he does......
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hahaha
because i fell for it once.....but not anymore....i wil wait for the PM
nice try though
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
excuse me ?
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12:35
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
"nice try" ?
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i send him email again because your attitude
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u call me with bad name again, you can have your money back from escrow and buy from someone else
i have not called you a bad name....
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12:39
but i will wait and get the refund
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i cant believe you are doing this
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12:40
i do, because i will never get a refund and you know it
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12:40
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
are u kidding me right now ?
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12:40
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
send the rest 2000 and take your units
hahah NEVER...not without proof of you having the units ready with MY name on it
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12:41
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
units are not in my country even
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12:41
i am stupid enough so far...
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12:41
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
are u stupid ?
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12:41
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
seems like u are stupid
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
because u trying to cancel almost done deal
indeed, to be scammed by you....
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12:42
i am stupid
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
scammed ?
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12:42
ignorant and naive
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12:42
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
iwan are you retarded ?
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12:42
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
once u send the payment i will send you the tracking number in 2 hours
Dit bericht is bewerkt
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
just give me 2 hours
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and stop talk bullshits
nice try...again i am doing nothing before i get a real pm
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12:43
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
nice try ?
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12:44
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
look now
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u dont send 2000
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
there wont be any units for you
you can tell me anything, but you wil not get more money untill i get a pm
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12:45
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i can call you anything ?
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12:45
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do u want me to make u quit without money and units ?
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont make me mad
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i work with Sebastian from 3 months
You wil not get more money untill i get a pm
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12:46
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ok
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12:46
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you will never get pm
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
let me tell Sebastian to send you whats going to happened next
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont u get it
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
Sebastian work with us
offcourse.... but you wil not get more money untill i get a pm
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12:46
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
u wont get anything before u send the 2000
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12:47
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do u understand now ?
you wil not get more money untill i get a pm
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12:47
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ok
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12:47
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we are done
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
last thing
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u dont send the rest 2k
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
u wont get ur money back
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or any units
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do u understand what I'm saying
that is not houw escrow works......
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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
escrow work for us from 3 months
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12:48
but i know now that YOUR escrow works this way
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12:48
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we already have your funds
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thought so....
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12:48
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
so dont do bullshits
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12:48
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
make your payment, take your units and move on
you will get NO money from me
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12:48
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do u really want to lose 5k just because u dont want to pay ur last unit ?
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12:49
i already lost the money as it is in YOUR account, not escrow
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12:50
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u dont pay ur last unit, i will take your payment as donation not as payment
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12:50
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you lost nothing !!!!
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we are not scammers stop calling us with bad name before i start call u with bad name
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
iwan let me explain you how the things are
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
escrow work with us, we have your funds from the first day
you have done enough
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12:51
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no one is going to steal or scam you
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12:51
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if you not going to send the last money for ur units
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i cannot send you anything because 3 is our minimum
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
its up to you
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
to do want your units or no
not falling for it.....
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12:51
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i dont care what you falling or not
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12:51
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do u understand?
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you have only one way
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
either take your units or thanks for the donation
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
stop being fool
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and take your units
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
instead of losing ur money
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
read really careful before answer
if you are honost and true, you would refund me the money if i wanted to cancel the order. But you want to TAKE my money...
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12:52
when i want to cancel the order...
i wil not pay a CENT more because you already lyed to me about the escrow, SebastianJu etc...so you are not getting a cent....as you already stole my money
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no one stole your money
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12:53
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
your money is here
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
either send us 2k usd
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and take your units
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or u can move on with 5k loss
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
up to you
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ur choice
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
stop being idiot, send us 2k, take your units
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or u will end up without units and without money
if you are the honost one, send the money to the escrow wallet SebastianJu made.. 1CXZKvnVT28oXCsJuCvZc1irdFi8rV4b7d
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12:54
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i told you the ways
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12:55
if this is done, i will add the rest
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12:55
and make the deal.
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
already told you
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12:55
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
feel free to proceed the rest 2k
no problem....that you will not do that...offcourse
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12:55
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
iwan, dont make the things worst
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12:55
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
take your units while you still have chance
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
the only way of you getting them is sending 2k
You have made it worse
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12:56
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
there is no other options
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12:56
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
kindly pay and take them
no, send the money into a real escrow wallet of SebastianJu, then i will pay the other 2K
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but you are NOT honost and wil not do that....
because you want to keep my money AND the units
if there are even units
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i will not keep the units if the money were send
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12:57
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont tell me what to do
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont make me to do things we both dont want
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ok I'm going to give you 10 mins
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
enough talk
NO send the money into a real escrow wallet. Then i will add 2k and you can send the goods
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12:57
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
2k or our conversation is done here
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12:57
you will get NO money
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12:57
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ok
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12:58
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
u will get no units
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and money
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you choose this
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
not me
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
u have 10 mins to decide
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
pay us 2k and get ur units
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or dont pay us cent
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and dont get anything
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
there was never escrow, all money is here
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
once u pay for ur 3 units u will receive them
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u dont pay for 3 units u will receive nothing
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
its up to you
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do whatever u like
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i hope you understand now
i do understand
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13:00
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i dont care what you going to say, here is the situation; you send 2k you got 3 units with 3 psu
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13:00
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
u dont send 2k there is no units
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
whats ur decision
Due ABUSE of the trust system on this forum, all deals will go ONLY THRU ESCROW
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13:00
the tekst on your add
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
that was AFTER our deal
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13:01
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
iwan i will be honest with you
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
please understand it before its late
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we really have the units for you and they are ready
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
once i show the manager the money
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
units will be send in 2 hours
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i dont care u believe or not
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
the bad thing is if you dont believe
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you will end up without money or units
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i dont want you to end like this
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
be smart
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
send 2k, take your units and never deal without escrow anymore in future
i wil be smart.....and wil not transfer more moeny untill i get things confirmed....but i know what wil never happen..
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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
things confirmed ?
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13:03
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we confirm the things
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
not someone else
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i confirm with you
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u dont send the 2k
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
u wont get 1 cent or 1 unit
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u send the 2k u will get your stuff send today
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u dont send 2k there wont be any units or money
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and we both dont want you to leave with empty hands
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
so please, send the 2k
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or i have no other option than leave this
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2785057.0
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13:04
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i dont care what u show me
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13:05
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
2k or we are done
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
going to ask you for very last time
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you going to send the 2k and take your units
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or we are done here
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
your answer will either bring you 3 units
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or leave u without 5k usd
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ur choice
screw you....you have done this to many others.....
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fucking scammer
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no i did not
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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
2k or we are done
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
whats ur answer
you are a fucking scammer.....
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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i ask, 2k and take your units or we are done ?
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if i could kill you i would.....
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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
stop dreaming
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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do u want ur units or no
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
last chance before i block you
then please block me
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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont forget that's your choice
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as you are never getting more money
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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ok
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no it was YOUR choise
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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
as u wish
This is just the last part conversation....
So i lost 5k on this fucker.