ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread - page 261.

Biodom

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Quote from: mjk79 on August 14, 2014, 10:37:50 AM

Seems like I got lucky with my two from Batch 6.

One is running stable 500+ gh/s at 250 freq. (46c, 45c)
The other stable at 490+ gh/s at 243.75 freq. Above that this one gets one chip X'd out. (44c, 45c)

Should I consider re-applying thermal paste on these to bring temps down or consider myself lucky and leave it alone?

leave the good thing alone...if it works, it does so more or less stably.
I don't even want to try 250 that much, pretty content at 237.5, perhaps will try 243.75 later

Atomar

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I just did the firmware update. Everything seems OK so far. Except the Fan speed!
I set the freq. back to 218.75 and the fan shows allways 15300! And thats for shure not the case!

When it startet up right after the update, the fan was on 500 something. But that problem I had bevor the update also.
Has it something to do with the frequenzie ?

mjk79

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Quote from: macgyver007 on August 14, 2014, 10:39:34 AM

Quote from: mjk79 on August 14, 2014, 10:37:50 AM

Seems like I got lucky with my two from Batch 6.

One is running stable 500+ gh/s at 250 freq. (46c, 45c)
The other stable at 490+ gh/s at 243.75 freq. Above that this one gets one chip X'd out. (44c, 45c)

Should I consider re-applying thermal paste on these to bring temps down or consider myself lucky and leave it alone?

How long are you running at before you consider them stable? How are the errors? Have you tried using different power connectors or perhaps 2 on the malfunctioning blade? They seem to act up in the first 8 hours and still don't hash consistently between reboots..one boot is fine, the next errors and rejects Roll Eyes

I tried other freq's yesterdy (225, 237.5, 250) for 2-3 hours each. With the current settings they've been running for about 7.5 hours.

HW errors are low, 19 and 11. I have all 4 power ports used currently on each so no I haven't tried moving any connectors yet.

I'll keep an eye on it for today, hopefully they will stay stable.

macgyver007

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Quote from: mjk79 on August 14, 2014, 10:37:50 AM

Seems like I got lucky with my two from Batch 6.

One is running stable 500+ gh/s at 250 freq. (46c, 45c)
The other stable at 490+ gh/s at 243.75 freq. Above that this one gets one chip X'd out. (44c, 45c)

Should I consider re-applying thermal paste on these to bring temps down or consider myself lucky and leave it alone?

How long are you running at before you consider them stable? How are the errors? Have you tried using different power connectors or perhaps 2 on the malfunctioning blade? They seem to act up in the first 8 hours and still don't hash consistently between reboots..one boot is fine, the next errors and rejects Roll Eyes

mjk79

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Seems like I got lucky with my two from Batch 6.

One is running stable 500+ gh/s at 250 freq. (46c, 45c)
The other stable at 490+ gh/s at 243.75 freq. Above that this one gets one chip X'd out. (44c, 45c)

Should I consider re-applying thermal paste on these to bring temps down or consider myself lucky and leave it alone?

macgyver007

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Quote from: Biodom on August 14, 2014, 10:29:15 AM

Quote from: macgyver007 on August 14, 2014, 10:19:05 AM

I just noticed this on the bitmain site: https://bitmaintech.com/files/download/antMiner_S320140811.bin

The notes just say "added advanced frequency" which means there is an extra tab for overclocking in the miner configuration page...just flashed now thought I would give a heads up to you all Grin

Edit: in order for the frequency and firmware to work and not come up blank, I used the "save settings" box when flashing the firmware, then after the flash is complete and the miner has rebooted, go to the miner config/advanced tab and hit apply on the frequency you want (it defaults to 237.5 and no idea why 100 is in there), then hit apply on the main miner config page to be safe, then reboot the miner...works for me!

so, basically, on current miners (at least B4-7) 237.5 is a de facto default. I thought so....

I can't speak for batch 7 as its not even shipping yet and I only ordered batch 2,3,4,5, and 6, and batch 5/6 came with july 28 firmware which was nowhere to be found
The firmware defaults in the dropdown to 237.5 but I don't think its actually using that as when you check the miner status the frequency stays blank unless you do what I outlined above...and also it does not read the original asic-freq file for this dropdown list...haven't had time to see where its hiding now...yet.

Biodom

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Quote from: macgyver007 on August 14, 2014, 10:19:05 AM

I just noticed this on the bitmain site: https://bitmaintech.com/files/download/antMiner_S320140811.bin

The notes just say "added advanced frequency" which means there is an extra tab for overclocking in the miner configuration page...just flashed now thought I would give a heads up to you all Grin

Edit: in order for the frequency and firmware to work and not come up blank, I used the "save settings" box when flashing the firmware, then after the flash is complete and the miner has rebooted, go to the miner config/advanced tab and hit apply on the frequency you want (it defaults to 237.5 and no idea why 100 is in there), then hit apply on the main miner config page to be safe, then reboot the miner...works for me!

so, basically, on current miners (at least B4-7) 237.5 is a de facto default. I thought so....

faetos

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gotta let a coin be a coin

Quote from: Ilan1 on August 14, 2014, 10:06:21 AM

Quote from: Biodom on August 14, 2014, 09:45:46 AM

Quote from: Ilan1 on August 14, 2014, 09:40:08 AM

Quote from: cowchaser on August 14, 2014, 08:28:06 AM

Quote from: Ilan1 on August 14, 2014, 08:01:50 AM

For some strange reason 2 out of my 5 Ant Miners require re-flashing every day to bring back up to stock speeds of 441 GH/s they appear to run stable for about 12 hours or so and then both just fall to circa 420 GH/s. I have tried everything, replacing the thermal paste, swapping around the PSU's, factory restart, reboot etc. The only thing that helps (For a short period of time) is if I flash the device again and again every 12 hours or so.
Has anyone else got any thoughts on what else I could do? Or do I just have 2 faulty units?

I've observed something similar with hashrates dropping to around 420 , however I also see hash rates of 460-470. Basically there's a 10% variance both + and -.
I now have 4 S3's and besides the faulty one now doing 229 the rest is up and running at 427 to 444.

I also have a dragon 1 Th/s miner and also this one shows a variance of up to 8% both up and down.
My observations after a week are that the hash rates somehow go up and down simultaniously. So if the Antminers are "slower' the Dragonminer seems to be slower as well.

Thanks, I guess I will just live with it, I suppose 40 GH/s is neither hear nor there anyway these days.

if you got multiple, it will average out: I also have one "underperformer" at ~415, but the other five perform above grade: 464 (one) to 478 (four) on 237.5, so average per miner is currently 465GH, which is good. However, it all would still go sour if BTC continues to tank.

Very True, What the hell is going on with the Bitcoin prices??? its in free fall!

It does this all the time. if panic = high; then buy coins

faetos

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Quote from: atledenin on August 14, 2014, 08:06:55 AM

Quote from: RogMiner on August 14, 2014, 04:44:23 AM

Quote from: jimmyoh on August 14, 2014, 04:26:30 AM

Quote from: fire000 on August 14, 2014, 03:49:36 AM

Has to laugh at the s1 upgrade kit why would ya put all the parts in the kit to upgrade it to an s3 minus the 2nd fan when the s3 has the second fan there for a reason,,,, That very odd and strange not to have the 2nd fan in the upgrade kit

The parts list didn't include the case cover either.

I could cynically suggest that the case cover has cosmetic value only.

The omission of the second fan either demonstrates that the second fan is not really essential, or that Bitmain think that anyone upgrading would have previously overclocked their S1 and would therefore have fitted a second fan already. My vote goes for it being superfluous unless you overclock.

The Bitmain website now includes a fan on the list Wink

I've considered running it without the cover just to see if it helps with the cooling on mine as I can only get it to hash stably at 212.5. My thinking behind this was the location of the control board which is now above the heatsinks and I was wondering if it was overheating, further testing required!

I've had to run it with the cover off to do troubleshooting. Plus side is heat dispersion is about 3-5C better. Downside is it sounds like a vacuum cleaner with the case off. The case does a great job of dampening the fans. This noise has also turned me off to the S1 DIY kits.

macgyver007

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I just noticed this on the bitmain site: https://bitmaintech.com/files/download/antMiner_S320140811.bin

The notes just say "added advanced frequency" which means there is an extra tab for overclocking in the miner configuration page...just flashed now thought I would give a heads up to you all Grin

Edit: in order for the frequency and firmware to work and not come up blank, I used the "save settings" box when flashing the firmware, then after the flash is complete and the miner has rebooted, go to the miner config/advanced tab and hit apply on the frequency you want (it defaults to 237.5 and no idea why 100 is in there), then hit apply on the main miner config page to be safe, then reboot the miner...works for me!

bjalbert

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I downloaded the latest firmware and now hash rate is around 100. I noticed on the status page no freq is listed.

In the latest firmware it says "add frequency advanced setting". I can't find any info regarding this and think that is my problem.

I found you need to make sure "keep settings" is not checked and it fixed the problem.

Another update my miner went from hashing at 425 to 450 at 218 freq so this update looks good. (I had B1 S3)

aztecminer

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Quote from: Biodom on August 14, 2014, 09:36:26 AM

Quote from: aztecminer on August 14, 2014, 09:29:21 AM

Quote from: BITMAIN on August 13, 2014, 09:49:59 AM

Quote from: aztecminer on August 13, 2014, 09:43:56 AM

Quote from: Bitkoinzz on August 13, 2014, 07:15:09 AM

S3+ for sales shipping starts on September 20th or earlier

omg, 5 weeks with no sales of S3's......

i wonder what they changed to make them + ??

revised hardware design makes the S3+ more stable at higher frequency.

sounds good.

they looked at the thread here and decided to use a better thermal paste Grin

yeah, i left a review for gc-extreme at newegg explaining to them they need sell larger containers of thermal paste, they sell it like it's illegal..
i need like 100 ozs or 200 ozs .. newegg has been out of the 10 oz containers of thermal paste so i had to buy 30 oz somewhere else.
i already used over half of that stash on my S3's and my two new video cards (not used for mining) i just bought last month for my pcs ..

Ilan1

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Quote from: Biodom on August 14, 2014, 09:45:46 AM

Quote from: Ilan1 on August 14, 2014, 09:40:08 AM

Quote from: cowchaser on August 14, 2014, 08:28:06 AM

Quote from: Ilan1 on August 14, 2014, 08:01:50 AM

For some strange reason 2 out of my 5 Ant Miners require re-flashing every day to bring back up to stock speeds of 441 GH/s they appear to run stable for about 12 hours or so and then both just fall to circa 420 GH/s. I have tried everything, replacing the thermal paste, swapping around the PSU's, factory restart, reboot etc. The only thing that helps (For a short period of time) is if I flash the device again and again every 12 hours or so.
Has anyone else got any thoughts on what else I could do? Or do I just have 2 faulty units?

I've observed something similar with hashrates dropping to around 420 , however I also see hash rates of 460-470. Basically there's a 10% variance both + and -.
I now have 4 S3's and besides the faulty one now doing 229 the rest is up and running at 427 to 444.

I also have a dragon 1 Th/s miner and also this one shows a variance of up to 8% both up and down.
My observations after a week are that the hash rates somehow go up and down simultaniously. So if the Antminers are "slower' the Dragonminer seems to be slower as well.

Thanks, I guess I will just live with it, I suppose 40 GH/s is neither hear nor there anyway these days.

if you got multiple, it will average out: I also have one "underperformer" at ~415, but the other five perform above grade: 464 (one) to 478 (four) on 237.5, so average per miner is currently 465GH, which is good. However, it all would still go sour if BTC continues to tank.

Very True, What the hell is going on with the Bitcoin prices??? its in free fall!

aztecminer

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Quote from: atledenin on August 14, 2014, 08:06:55 AM

Quote from: RogMiner on August 14, 2014, 04:44:23 AM

Quote from: jimmyoh on August 14, 2014, 04:26:30 AM

Quote from: fire000 on August 14, 2014, 03:49:36 AM

Has to laugh at the s1 upgrade kit why would ya put all the parts in the kit to upgrade it to an s3 minus the 2nd fan when the s3 has the second fan there for a reason,,,, That very odd and strange not to have the 2nd fan in the upgrade kit

The parts list didn't include the case cover either.

I could cynically suggest that the case cover has cosmetic value only.

The omission of the second fan either demonstrates that the second fan is not really essential, or that Bitmain think that anyone upgrading would have previously overclocked their S1 and would therefore have fitted a second fan already. My vote goes for it being superfluous unless you overclock.

The Bitmain website now includes a fan on the list Wink

I've considered running it without the cover just to see if it helps with the cooling on mine as I can only get it to hash stably at 212.5. My thinking behind this was the location of the control board which is now above the heatsinks and I was wondering if it was overheating, further testing required!

i been running all my ants oced @250 stacked together without the covers.
this allows more air flow on the outside of the ants where more airflow is needed most.
i reversed the fans so they will fit into a rack with the network ports in the back where heat exhausts.
these S3 ants can be oced @250 and run stable at 495 - 500+ g/hs although this requires some work .

Reynaldo

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Quote from: cowchaser on August 14, 2014, 08:28:06 AM

Quote from: Ilan1 on August 14, 2014, 08:01:50 AM

For some strange reason 2 out of my 5 Ant Miners require re-flashing every day to bring back up to stock speeds of 441 GH/s they appear to run stable for about 12 hours or so and then both just fall to circa 420 GH/s. I have tried everything, replacing the thermal paste, swapping around the PSU's, factory restart, reboot etc. The only thing that helps (For a short period of time) is if I flash the device again and again every 12 hours or so.
Has anyone else got any thoughts on what else I could do? Or do I just have 2 faulty units?

I've observed something similar with hashrates dropping to around 420 , however I also see hash rates of 460-470. Basically there's a 10% variance both + and -.
I now have 4 S3's and besides the faulty one now doing 229 the rest is up and running at 427 to 444.

I also have a dragon 1 Th/s miner and also this one shows a variance of up to 8% both up and down.
My observations after a week are that the hash rates somehow go up and down simultaniously. So if the Antminers are "slower' the Dragonminer seems to be slower as well.

Did you buy your Dragon miner from http://bitcoin-miners.me/??

would you recommend 2 antminer s3 or 1 th dragon miner?

Biodom

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Quote from: Ilan1 on August 14, 2014, 09:40:08 AM

Quote from: cowchaser on August 14, 2014, 08:28:06 AM

Quote from: Ilan1 on August 14, 2014, 08:01:50 AM

For some strange reason 2 out of my 5 Ant Miners require re-flashing every day to bring back up to stock speeds of 441 GH/s they appear to run stable for about 12 hours or so and then both just fall to circa 420 GH/s. I have tried everything, replacing the thermal paste, swapping around the PSU's, factory restart, reboot etc. The only thing that helps (For a short period of time) is if I flash the device again and again every 12 hours or so.
Has anyone else got any thoughts on what else I could do? Or do I just have 2 faulty units?

I've observed something similar with hashrates dropping to around 420 , however I also see hash rates of 460-470. Basically there's a 10% variance both + and -.
I now have 4 S3's and besides the faulty one now doing 229 the rest is up and running at 427 to 444.

I also have a dragon 1 Th/s miner and also this one shows a variance of up to 8% both up and down.
My observations after a week are that the hash rates somehow go up and down simultaniously. So if the Antminers are "slower' the Dragonminer seems to be slower as well.

Thanks, I guess I will just live with it, I suppose 40 GH/s is neither hear nor there anyway these days.

if you got multiple, it will average out: I also have one "underperformer" at ~415, but the other five perform above grade: 464 (one) to 478 (four) on 237.5, so average per miner is currently 465GH, which is good. However, it all would still go sour if BTC continues to tank.

Ilan1

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Quote from: cowchaser on August 14, 2014, 08:28:06 AM

Quote from: Ilan1 on August 14, 2014, 08:01:50 AM

For some strange reason 2 out of my 5 Ant Miners require re-flashing every day to bring back up to stock speeds of 441 GH/s they appear to run stable for about 12 hours or so and then both just fall to circa 420 GH/s. I have tried everything, replacing the thermal paste, swapping around the PSU's, factory restart, reboot etc. The only thing that helps (For a short period of time) is if I flash the device again and again every 12 hours or so.
Has anyone else got any thoughts on what else I could do? Or do I just have 2 faulty units?

I've observed something similar with hashrates dropping to around 420 , however I also see hash rates of 460-470. Basically there's a 10% variance both + and -.
I now have 4 S3's and besides the faulty one now doing 229 the rest is up and running at 427 to 444.

I also have a dragon 1 Th/s miner and also this one shows a variance of up to 8% both up and down.
My observations after a week are that the hash rates somehow go up and down simultaniously. So if the Antminers are "slower' the Dragonminer seems to be slower as well.

Thanks, I guess I will just live with it, I suppose 40 GH/s is neither hear nor there anyway these days.

Biodom

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Quote from: aztecminer on August 14, 2014, 09:29:21 AM

Quote from: BITMAIN on August 13, 2014, 09:49:59 AM

Quote from: aztecminer on August 13, 2014, 09:43:56 AM

Quote from: Bitkoinzz on August 13, 2014, 07:15:09 AM

S3+ for sales shipping starts on September 20th or earlier

omg, 5 weeks with no sales of S3's......

i wonder what they changed to make them + ??

revised hardware design makes the S3+ more stable at higher frequency.

sounds good.

they looked at the thread here and decided to use a better thermal paste Grin

aztecminer

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Quote from: BITMAIN on August 13, 2014, 09:49:59 AM

Quote from: aztecminer on August 13, 2014, 09:43:56 AM

Quote from: Bitkoinzz on August 13, 2014, 07:15:09 AM

S3+ for sales shipping starts on September 20th or earlier

omg, 5 weeks with no sales of S3's......

i wonder what they changed to make them + ??

revised hardware design makes the S3+ more stable at higher frequency.

sounds good.

cowchaser

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Quote from: Ilan1 on August 14, 2014, 08:01:50 AM

For some strange reason 2 out of my 5 Ant Miners require re-flashing every day to bring back up to stock speeds of 441 GH/s they appear to run stable for about 12 hours or so and then both just fall to circa 420 GH/s. I have tried everything, replacing the thermal paste, swapping around the PSU's, factory restart, reboot etc. The only thing that helps (For a short period of time) is if I flash the device again and again every 12 hours or so.
Has anyone else got any thoughts on what else I could do? Or do I just have 2 faulty units?

I've observed something similar with hashrates dropping to around 420 , however I also see hash rates of 460-470. Basically there's a 10% variance both + and -.
I now have 4 S3's and besides the faulty one now doing 229 the rest is up and running at 427 to 444.

I also have a dragon 1 Th/s miner and also this one shows a variance of up to 8% both up and down.
My observations after a week are that the hash rates somehow go up and down simultaniously. So if the Antminers are "slower' the Dragonminer seems to be slower as well.

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