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legendary
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I like to tell another thing, my 2 PCI-E Power cables to S3 were a little hot.
My S3 hashrate was not stable at the rated 441Ghs but was averaging at 420. I ordered thermal paste.
Before thermal plates were arriving, I tried to plug two additional PCI-E power cables to S3.
The Antminer S3 is running at stock clocks 218.75 and PCI-E power cables are cool now.
The main reason for this post is to report that the miners stabilised at 441. Earlier it was 420.
Two thing I'm pointing out,
1. The miners plugged in continuously for 4 or 5 days and seems like it was running-in and stabilised at-last at 441.
2. Plugging the all four connectors even if you are not overclocking will some way help you.

Similar experience here.  S3 clocked down to 212 as it would not stabilise at stock.  Finally decided last night to have a fiddle as I had a bit of time on my hands.  After removing the cover I did the following -

Straightened out the heatsink fins as some were bent close to where the screws were.
Tightened up one screw which was loose on one heatsink.
Pushed the cables to make sure they were seated properly, they all looked ok, no "give" when pushing.
Put the cover back on and instead of putting the cables into the sockets closest to the ethernet port I decided to try the other two.

Hooked it back up, checked the results after a couple of hours and it was hashing at 420.  Decided to put the clock back to stock and it's been hashing at 440 for the last 24 hours!

Really strange as the only thing I felt I really did was swap the cables.  Maybe it just needed a bit of TLC and me stroking its internals made it happy!


OK so I'm back to square one with this! Went back to fluctuating between 380-410 after about 72 hours on stock setting.  Reset it back to 212.5 and it's hashing steadily at 410 now.  

Just had a thought, has anyone ran one without the cover on?  I'm thinking I might try it this weekend, wondering if the controller is getting too warm as its directly above the inside heatsinks and not to the side as with the S1.  I understand the cover is required for decent airflow across the outside heat sinks so I'll either make some sides or blow air from another couple of fans on them.



I have the same thoughts.  Since heat rises, perhaps the whole surface area of the controller PCB is getting the brunt of the radiating/rising heat from the heat sinks underneath it.  It's one of the factors that made me decide to orient my S3s vertically (vertical airflow).  This way, the controller is at the bottom (cooler) and vertically adjacent to the heat sinks and not above them.  Pictures here.

full member
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I have G-750 SeaSonic 80 gold powering up 2x S3 miners. After couple of hours, one of the antminer started getting some HW errors. Is this because one of the blades i connected with daisy chain?

what are some hw errors
 5
10
100
1000
10000


1000 errors a day are not too bad.


both have been running for 13h+ now, first one has 57 HW and second 166.
legendary
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Has anyone actually tried cooling these S3's off.  I mean I had them in my garage and it was pretty warm
with 12 42-45) running.  So now I have them all in my basement and it is about 18 celsuis down here and they all still say 38,39,40 degrees on them.  Is it just me or do these fans on these things keep them around 39/40 on purpose?

I'm not concerned but i figured that they would run the fans the same and keep the chips cooler if they could?

Any thoughts on this idea?

I have the same thoughts.  With me, it seems they stay between 41C-45C, whether hot (daytime) or cold (nighttime).

full member
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Has anyone actually tried cooling these S3's off.  I mean I had them in my garage and it was pretty warm
with 12 42-45) running.  So now I have them all in my basement and it is about 18 celsuis down here and they all still say 38,39,40 degrees on them.  Is it just me or do these fans on these things keep them around 39/40 on purpose?

I'm not concerned but i figured that they would run the fans the same and keep the chips cooler if they could?

Any thoughts on this idea?
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Does anyone know if the --no submit stale cgminer flag works as a BMT cgminer param?
hero member
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So all in all if I want 2 overclocked Antminer s3s I'll have to buy a 1300W EVGA psu..


It's either you're a shill for the people who owns this site for the purpose of generating traffic or you're just someone who has nothing better to do and get your kicks in here to somehow fill in an emotional/psychological void or you're just a plain, good ol' jerk.  Whichever it is, please take your shite somewhere else because you are a distraction to the members in here who truly are seeking useful information from the community.  It's getting too old already just in case you haven't notice that yourself.  Nobody is that dumb.



No, I'm literally an idiot when it comes to this and I'm wondering what has others used!
I'm trying to fit 2 Antminer s3's onto one psu or two and I want to overclock both antminers safely..


Hey "lady", have this Spoon Feed.
Just buy a Corsair RM1000. Enough for all your needs.
http://www.corsair.com/en/rm-series-rm1000-80-plus-gold-certified-power-supply
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Kia ora!
Re: PSU spam

What is up with all this PSU crap in this thread, its like product placement on crack!!! How hard is it for people to figure out what is the right PSU to use for an S3 ?
legendary
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Everything still looks good but I'm curious about the HW figure on two miners, one of which on BTC Guild shows 768 dupes and the other 1280. Where as the other two miners have less than an HW of 30. All four though seem to be hashing at normal / advertised speeds. Just received all four Fri the 8th and they've been running as long as seen below.

Ty.

Miner 1 Stale / Dupe / Other : 4608 / 768 / 0
Quote
Elapsed   GH/S(5s)   GH/S(avg)   FoundBlocks   Getworks   Accepted   Rejected   HW   Utility   Discarded   Stale   LocalWork   WU   DiffA   DiffR   DiffS   BestShare
10h 52m 31s
452.03
441.55
0
1,439
15,658
24
295
24
133,158
0
7,141,206
6,168
4,008,448
6,144
0
0

Miner 2 Stale / Dupe / Other : 5888 / 1280 / 0
Quote
Elapsed   GH/S(5s)   GH/S(avg)   FoundBlocks   Getworks   Accepted   Rejected   HW   Utility   Discarded   Stale   LocalWork   WU   DiffA   DiffR   DiffS   BestShare
10h 54m 5s
452.19
439.71
0
1,440
15,618
31
267
23
133,908
0
7,186,989
6,142
3,998,208
7,936
0
0

Miner 3 Stale / Dupe / Other : 5376 / 0 / 0
Quote
Elapsed   GH/S(5s)   GH/S(avg)   FoundBlocks   Getworks   Accepted   Rejected   HW   Utility   Discarded   Stale   LocalWork   WU   DiffA   DiffR   DiffS   BestShare
10h 54m 31s
450.79
439.95
0
1,442
15,551
23
29
23
133,223
0
7,195,787
6,146
3,981,056
5,888
0
0

Miner 4 Stale / Dupe / Other : 3328 / 0 / 0
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Elapsed   GH/S(5s)   GH/S(avg)   FoundBlocks   Getworks   Accepted   Rejected   HW   Utility   Discarded   Stale   LocalWork   WU   DiffA   DiffR   DiffS   BestShare
10h 54m 43s
439.25
440.95
0
1,441
15,826
15
14
24
132,636
0
7,167,682
6,159
4,051,456
3,840
0
0
sr. member
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Hey, I recently purchased a few Antminer s3's and was in the process of setting them all up. I was changing their IP addresses, and when I got to the IP address 192.168.1.255 I couldn't get this Antminer to respond. I'm not sure why, it just takes me to a cox communications website and says that 192.168.1.255 can not be found. Any ideas?

.255 is a IP broadcast address (/24 IP network), this is an issue.

Is there anything I can do about it?

No, there isn't.

Any/all address block(s) has/have to have a broadcast address. The standard is the last octet ends in .255 so for the class C 192.168.0 the broadcast address is .255, same for 192.168.1, 192.168.2, etc. and 172.16.0, 172.16.1, 172.16.2, etc. You have to have a broadcast address on the network for your device to advertise "here I am" so routers and switches will establish communications with your device and recognize your device's MAC address (which is expressed in HEX and is the physical hardware address of your network interface). If your devices on the network can't advertise their presence on a broadcast address such as .255, then your devices will never be seen on the network and you'll get no communications at all.

For example, address ranges run from 192.168.0.0 through 192.168.0.255, with 192.168.0.255 being the broadcast address, so you have 255 usable addresses on a class C (192.168.0.0 through 192.168.0.254). Same goes for 192.168.1,x, 192.168.2.x, 172.16.0.x, 172.16.1,x, etc. Traditionally the x.y.z.0 address isn't used.
hero member
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The usual server power supply breakout boards should work best with ants, either the 750W, 800W or 2000W one.

They are also the most cost effective solutions as far as I know, and if a power supply should fail it can be replaced with another 20$ used server supply.

Sidehack has them on sale (including good quality pcie cables, and minersource is reselling them afaik).
sr. member
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Brainwashed this way

This oughta do it for 2 S3s:





Gas or Diesel? Mabey natural gas if u overclock both?(sorry but you know that guy pretending to be a girl will ask)
sr. member
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I have been reading and it goes back and forth.. Oh the cx600 sucks.. It has bad components.. It doesn't have 4 PCI etc etc.. There is no definite answer.. Why is it so hard to ask what PSU or PSUs would be good to run two AntMiner s3 over clocked.

With the S3's it's a bit of a grab bag regarding what will overclock at what rate and using what power supply and how many pci-e connectors you need.

Example: I have one S3 that overclock's at 500-510 GH/s on a CX500M with 1 pci-e connection and a molex->pci-e adapter plugged into only 2 of the power connections for the S3. It has been running fine like this for almost 2 weeks now without having to do anything but monitor it. It also is connected by wifi without any change to the miner itself. Of course it probably helps the router is in the next room and straight line distance through a sheet rock wall is less than 10 feet. So that tells you for one instance an S3 runs just fine on a CX500M overclocked on wifi without any other changes and is stable for almost 2 weeks now.

In 3 other instances, running on a CX500 each, even connecting all 4 pci-e power connections via the 2 pci-e in the CX500 cable bundle and the molex->pci-e and sata->pci-e adapters, they will not overclock and perform extremely badly, so they're all back at stock clock and running on a single CX500 with the 2 pci-e connections and nothing else. Those 3 are connected to the network by hard wire, not wifi but it's a function of location, not if the wifi works or not.

The bottom line: it is highly dependent on the individual S3 itself if you'll actually be able to over clock or not, no matter what power supply you use. Some over clock without any problem and actually run better without additional power, some need the additional power and probably most simply will not overclock at all. As to the individual power supply to use, it's already been stated numerous times a single CX500 or CX600 (not the modular kind, i.e. CX500M or CX600M) is good PER MINER. Even a 500 watt power supply will give you a bit of room to try the over clocking. I've not seen any of my S3's use more than 390 watts even overclocked.

So if you're asking for advice on what power supply to get, and try to save a bit of money / coin doing it, CX500 or CX600, one per miner, is probably the most cost effective solution I've seen. Plus it has the added advantage that if a power supply goes out, you're down 1 miner, not 2.

Get a CX500 or CX600, one per miner. Stop over thinking the issue.
newbie
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Hey, I recently purchased a few Antminer s3's and was in the process of setting them all up. I was changing their IP addresses, and when I got to the IP address 192.168.1.255 I couldn't get this Antminer to respond. I'm not sure why, it just takes me to a cox communications website and says that 192.168.1.255 can not be found. Any ideas?

.255 is a IP broadcast address (/24 IP network), this is an issue.

Is there anything I can do about it?
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I grabbed a third pair of these.  this time  batch 6 due to ship the 12th of aug.

looking forward to these.
sr. member
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Since there is only 2 pcie cables.. Which adaptors would I get to make 4? Should I get two sata to pcie or?
Thank you!

You only need two cables. Not really sure why there are 4 sockets. Mine all run at 490GH/s or better at 250. Each with just 2 cables plugged in and each with a corsair m750cx.


1. did you connect another miner to 2 remaining connectors? If not, what's the advantage?
2. how stable are they at 250mhz? I have a couple S3 that do great on 237.5 and was thinking of upping them to 250. Thanks.

Not sure if there is any advantage by using 2 connectors - maybe uses less power? I suppose the question should really be - why would you want to use 4 when 2 will do?

I notice an x on 1 of the 4 miners every now and then - especially when the weather is hot - but it still mines at 490 GH/s even with the x. After I reboot it it's 502 GH/s. The other three are 490, 494 and 501 with no x's.

Its called margin of safety, a pci-e connector is made for 150w at 12 volts, it is really the current that matters, so it is made for 12.5Amps, that amount can be pushed significantly for example the Neptune pushes over 30 Amps, but it is not reliable since there are many cases of burnt cables.
Also not all power supply cables are equal some at 18g, others are 16 g, the 16g you only find on premium power supplies, so most people use the cheaper 18g, if you have a lot of current go over an 18g cable it will get hot.
other factor are the ambient temperature and humidity.
So if you overclock and wish be play it safe use the 4 pci-e connectors, thats why it has 4.
if you are using a cheap power supply you should also use 4.
with 16g cables you can get away and use only 2.

an overclock s3 uses 200watt, which is at 16.7A, which is about 5 Amps above the standard, by using all 4 pci-connectors you are using about 8.3A per connector which is very safe.

you do not have to do what knc did, and it is to use a single pci-e connector and create a fire hazard, in this case an 18g cable burns.

The advantage is safety, you completely eliminate the risk of a fire, this is very important since miners most of the time run unattended.


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Helperizer
SO Does changing the freq actually void the warranty?

Can someone from BITMAIN reply on this.  Thx.

I would always like faster but if the warranty is void it is not worth it.

Fahlcor

What warranty? I used to think there was one until I tried to RMA with Bitmain. I buy from resellers now because a lot of them will warranty miner through their own shop.

As more info, I had one S3 hashing board (blade) fail the day I set my S3's up.  I worked with Bitmain via email, and they offered to send me a replacement hashing board back once I sent them the failed one with the attached shipping label.  But, they did not attach the promised shipping label to the email.

Also, when I mentioned I didn't want a delay in hashing and would like to get one sent right away, they offered to let me put down a deposit on a whole S3 to be refunded once they received my old hashing board.  Not optimal, and not what I'd expect after the relationship with several rounds of purchases with them, but since I am definitely sending it, I suggested just putting a deposit on the board instead.

Haven't heard back from them for days now.

So, no shipping label, no response, no nothing.  And losing hash time.  I'm far less happy with them than I have been previously.  Poor communication and commitment to us time-sensitive miners.
legendary
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I know there's different overclock settings but what's the smallest increment one can increase ? Or is it pretty much go by what BM has in the config files or nothing at all ?

Also, can OC / DC be done from within the webui ?
legendary
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This oughta do it for 2 S3s:



newbie
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I have been reading and it goes back and forth.. Oh the cx600 sucks.. It has bad components.. It doesn't have 4 PCI etc etc.. There is no definite answer.. Why is it so hard to ask what PSU or PSUs would be good to run two AntMiner s3 over clocked.
legendary
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Just another shill employed to generate traffic.

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