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Any official notice of why the message feature was removed from bitmaintech?

Have the same question... After I wrote my message to them, couple hours later the "message" feature just dissapeared from their website.
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Spending $200 and $50 is a whole different story, you are taking it to an extreme when I mentioned a medium in between of spending a few extra bucks. Spending $50 on a corsair cx500 and spending $70 on a better power supply with decent components sounds reasonable.

Someone doing it different than me has nothing to do with "doing it wrong". Antminer have limited warranty, people live in different conditions. If you have issues with your power supply 4months down the road you will wish you had spent $20 more. Anyone who appreciates hardware knows the one thing you don't do is cheap out on the power supply.


CX500 is $30 AR not $50. I've bought those and would buy again if I needed a good cheap small PSU. Just like I'd buy EVGA 1300 again if I needed a good cheap powerful PSU. I don't know what Antminer warranty has to do with anything, or living conditions.

"Doing it wrong" are your words not mine. See, I don't tell how you should run things, but you seem to be so worried that others are doing it not according to your rules that you resort to calling them "dumb" etc. I will not wish I had spent $20 more, or $40 more as the case might be. I will be happy that I can afford a spare and zero downtime rather than losing revenue while RMAing a "high quality" PSU (yes, those break too). To each their own.

You mean the part after they take my legitimate concern of something they should research and insult with sarcastic comments? Yes, if I am telling someone they should look into what they buy instead of saying "its good" because you plug it in and it works, then so be it. There is no point of arguing the quality of a CX500 because it's been done and proven.

Mail in rebate is a rebate. You pay $50 today so regardless of the time you wait to receive it does not change the fact $50 left your wallet today.

Living conditions has much to do with this. If you have 115 F ambient your components run at different temperatures then someone in Alaska. I doubt you will want to cheap out on a power supply that has components that are cheaper and rated for less temperature
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Spending $200 and $50 is a whole different story, you are taking it to an extreme when I mentioned a medium in between of spending a few extra bucks. Spending $50 on a corsair cx500 and spending $70 on a better power supply with decent components sounds reasonable.

Someone doing it different than me has nothing to do with "doing it wrong". Antminer have limited warranty, people live in different conditions. If you have issues with your power supply 4months down the road you will wish you had spent $20 more. Anyone who appreciates hardware knows the one thing you don't do is cheap out on the power supply.


CX500 is $30 AR not $50. I've bought those and would buy again if I needed a good cheap small PSU. Just like I'd buy EVGA 1300 again if I needed a good cheap powerful PSU. I don't know what Antminer warranty has to do with anything, or living conditions.

"Doing it wrong" are your words not mine. See, I don't tell how you should run things, but you seem to be so worried that others are doing it not according to your rules that you resort to calling them "dumb" etc. I will not wish I had spent $20 more, or $40 more as the case might be. I will be happy that I can afford a spare and zero downtime rather than losing revenue while RMAing a "high quality" PSU (yes, those break too). To each their own.
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Any official notice of why the message feature was removed from bitmaintech?
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A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.

Your explanation on "how power supplies work" does not make any sense at all.  I think it only leads to more confusion.  How did you come up with 81.5% load on the CX600 with an S3?  Please elaborate.  What "added power draw from the wall" are you referring to?  It is the actual power draw at the wall that computations should be extrapolated from because it is the only concrete number we can get out of the S3 or any device for that matter.  Let us indulge ourselves:

AC power draw at the wall * PSU efficiency = DC power draw on +12V rail of PSU
DC power draw on +12V rail of PSU / max load on +12V rail of PSU * = % of load exerted on +12V rail of PSU

Therefore (assuming an OC'd S3 draws 450WAC at the wall using a CX600):

450WAC * 85% = 382.5WDC
382.5WDC / 522WDC * 100 = 73.28%

I am aware that the CX600 label states 46A on the +12V rail, hence you came up with 552W (46A * 12V).  Confusingly, the same label also states that the maximum +12V rail wattage is 522W.  Which one is a typo?  Should it have been 43.5A (522W / 12V) instead of 46A?  Anyway, I tend to be conservative and go with the lower rating and be on safe side which is why I used 522W on the above computation that resulted in a 73.28% load.  However, even with a maximum of 552W on the +12V rail as you asserted, the load would then be much lower at 69.29% (382.5WDC / 552WDC * 100).  So, where was your "81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply" derived from?

I reiterate that the Corsair CX500 (also with only two PCIe power connectors) is able to accommodate an S3 OC'd to 250M without any issues whatsoever let alone a CX600.  I am not just saying this for the heck of it; I and at least another member in here actually did it.  Please read here.




I did not go and explain how power supplies work. I mentioned the user did not know seeing as the only thing he mentioned was the overall wattage of the power supply with the assumption that because its a "cx500" or "cx600" it can handle up to 500 or 600 watts

They mentioned cx 500 600 and 700 so I can't tell you where the goof is, I probably did the math under 12V rail while playing with calculator. Obviously either me or you pointing anything out will not matter because the owners do not care what the components are inside.

You should spend some time emphasizing the fact that these power supplies are clearly made with lower than decent components instead of nitpicking on the load %. This guy went from a cx500 is fine to a sarcastic I should get a ax1500i for 1 miner. I obviously didn't suggest he spend more than the miner, but being sarcastic for someone pointing out things you should care about doesn't help either.

As long as you are aware you own a trash psu, then that is fine. You do have to buy what you can afford, and spending $400 on a miner and being cheap on a power supply is hands down dumb. If you are too broke to spend the extra $20 on a better psu then you are doing it wrong.

Spending $400 on an Ant and $200 on a PSU does not make sense for a small scale miner. The CX or whatever it is you're so unhappy about works fine with a single Ant and that's all there is to it. Not everyone wants or needs 100A on a single rail. Smaller PSU at peak efficiency is better than underutilized large one. I started with cheap-after-rebate PSUs and it was the best decision I could make back then. Dual PSUs for GPU rigs when everyone was buying LEPAs at ungodly prices, and I could afford spares too. Somebody doing something different than you is not "doing it wrong".

Spending $200 and $50 is a whole different story, you are taking it to an extreme when I mentioned a medium in between of spending a few extra bucks. Spending $50 on a corsair cx500 and spending $70 on a better power supply with decent components sounds reasonable.

Someone doing it different than me has nothing to do with "doing it wrong". Antminer have limited warranty, people live in different conditions. If you have issues with your power supply 4months down the road you will wish you had spent $20 more. Anyone who appreciates hardware knows the one thing you don't do is cheap out on the power supply.


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A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.

Your explanation on "how power supplies work" does not make any sense at all.  I think it only leads to more confusion.  How did you come up with 81.5% load on the CX600 with an S3?  Please elaborate.  What "added power draw from the wall" are you referring to?  It is the actual power draw at the wall that computations should be extrapolated from because it is the only concrete number we can get out of the S3 or any device for that matter.  Let us indulge ourselves:

AC power draw at the wall * PSU efficiency = DC power draw on +12V rail of PSU
DC power draw on +12V rail of PSU / max load on +12V rail of PSU * = % of load exerted on +12V rail of PSU

Therefore (assuming an OC'd S3 draws 450WAC at the wall using a CX600):

450WAC * 85% = 382.5WDC
382.5WDC / 522WDC * 100 = 73.28%

I am aware that the CX600 label states 46A on the +12V rail, hence you came up with 552W (46A * 12V).  Confusingly, the same label also states that the maximum +12V rail wattage is 522W.  Which one is a typo?  Should it have been 43.5A (522W / 12V) instead of 46A?  Anyway, I tend to be conservative and go with the lower rating and be on safe side which is why I used 522W on the above computation that resulted in a 73.28% load.  However, even with a maximum of 552W on the +12V rail as you asserted, the load would then be much lower at 69.29% (382.5WDC / 552WDC * 100).  So, where was your "81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply" derived from?

I reiterate that the Corsair CX500 (also with only two PCIe power connectors) is able to accommodate an S3 OC'd to 250M without any issues whatsoever let alone a CX600.  I am not just saying this for the heck of it; I and at least another member in here actually did it.  Please read here.




I did not go and explain how power supplies work. I mentioned the user did not know seeing as the only thing he mentioned was the overall wattage of the power supply with the assumption that because its a "cx500" or "cx600" it can handle up to 500 or 600 watts

They mentioned cx 500 600 and 700 so I can't tell you where the goof is, I probably did the math under 12V rail while playing with calculator. Obviously either me or you pointing anything out will not matter because the owners do not care what the components are inside.

You should spend some time emphasizing the fact that these power supplies are clearly made with lower than decent components instead of nitpicking on the load %. This guy went from a cx500 is fine to a sarcastic I should get a ax1500i for 1 miner. I obviously didn't suggest he spend more than the miner, but being sarcastic for someone pointing out things you should care about doesn't help either.

As long as you are aware you own a trash psu, then that is fine. You do have to buy what you can afford, and spending $400 on a miner and being cheap on a power supply is hands down dumb. If you are too broke to spend the extra $20 on a better psu then you are doing it wrong.

Spending $400 on an Ant and $200 on a PSU does not make sense for a small scale miner. The CX or whatever it is you're so unhappy about works fine with a single Ant and that's all there is to it. Not everyone wants or needs 100A on a single rail. Smaller PSU at peak efficiency is better than underutilized large one. I started with cheap-after-rebate PSUs and it was the best decision I could make back then. Dual PSUs for GPU rigs when everyone was buying LEPAs at ungodly prices, and I could afford spares too. Somebody doing something different than you is not "doing it wrong".

Spending $200 and $50 is a whole different story, you are taking it to an extreme when I mentioned a medium in between of spending a few extra bucks. Spending $50 on a corsair cx500 and spending $70 on a better power supply with decent components sounds reasonable.

Someone doing it different than me has nothing to do with "doing it wrong". Antminer have limited warranty, people live in different conditions. If you have issues with your power supply 4months down the road you will wish you had spent $20 more. Anyone who appreciates hardware knows the one thing you don't do is cheap out on the power supply.
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As long as you are aware you own a trash psu, then that is fine. You do have to buy what you can afford, and spending $400 on a miner and being cheap on a power supply is hands down dumb. If you are too broke to spend the extra $20 on a better psu then you are doing it wrong.

Spending $400 on an Ant and $200 on a PSU does not make sense for a small scale miner. The CX or whatever it is you're so unhappy about works fine with a single Ant and that's all there is to it. Not everyone wants or needs 100A on a single rail. Smaller PSU at peak efficiency is better than underutilized large one. I started with cheap-after-rebate PSUs and it was the best decision I could make back then. Dual PSUs for GPU rigs when everyone was buying LEPAs at ungodly prices, and I could afford spares too. Somebody doing something different than you is not "doing it wrong".
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A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.

Your explanation on "how power supplies work" does not make any sense at all.  I think it only leads to more confusion.  How did you come up with 81.5% load on the CX600 with an S3?  Please elaborate.  What "added power draw from the wall" are you referring to?  It is the actual power draw at the wall that computations should be extrapolated from because it is the only concrete number we can get out of the S3 or any device for that matter.  Let us indulge ourselves:

AC power draw at the wall * PSU efficiency = DC power draw on +12V rail of PSU
DC power draw on +12V rail of PSU / max load on +12V rail of PSU = % of load exerted on +12V rail of PSU

Therefore (assuming an OC'd S3 draws 450WAC at the wall using a CX600):

450WAC * 85% = 382.5WDC
382.5WDC / 522WDC * 100 = 73.28%

I am aware that the CX600 label states 46A on the +12V rail, hence you came up with 552W (46A * 12V).  Confusingly, the same label also states that the maximum +12V rail wattage is 522W.  Which one is a typo?  Should it have been 43.5A (522W / 12V) instead of 46A?  Anyway, I tend to be conservative and go with the lower rating and be on the safe side which is why I used 522W on the above computation that resulted in a 73.28% load.  However, even with a maximum of 552W on the +12V rail as you asserted, the load would then be much lower at 69.29% (382.5WDC / 552WDC * 100).  So, where was your "81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply" derived from?

I reiterate that the Corsair CX500 (also with only two PCIe power connectors) is able to accommodate an S3 OC'd to 250M without any issues whatsoever let alone a CX600.  I am not just saying this for the heck of it; I and at least another member in here actually did it.  Please read here.


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A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.

I am running an overclocked s3 on a cx500 right now. 14 days and its fine...so....

It's more so about knowing what you are running for 14 days... It's cheap, the quality is cheap, and you got exactly what you paid for. People only care when they have problems as long as you know this from the jump then you won't be surprised if the unit dies on you or fries your miners.

A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.

OK...let's make this simple.  A CX500 will absolutely, positively power an S3 at stock clock ...I've been running three batch 5s for two days now - avg 438Gh/s on the CX500's (I used 5 CX500s to run five S1s previousl - they draw nearly the same AMPs as an S3)  The CX 500's are selling at Newegg.com for $29.99 after $20.00 rebate right now.

One PSU per miner means if one PSU dies, only one miner dies (not that any of my Corsair, EVGA or any other name brand PSUs have died since I started seriously mining about 5 months ago).

I don't get why y'all are buying these huge, expensive PSUs to support multiple miners...what's the point? And the next person that tells me they are buying gold or platinum PSUs because they are "more efficient", better be able to justify the additional expense vs. actual electric cost savings over 80 or so days...show me the math that proves the "more efficient" PSUs actually ROI better for our very specific scenario.

Simple and plain. YES the cx500 will run an antminer stock.

Don't be ignorant and do your own research.
You are at 72% load on the cx500 and ~80% on the 12v rail. This power supply at 50% load is 86% efficient.
Better power supplies offer better all around features such as voltage regulation, ripple, and more efficient at certain loads.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-review-80-plus-bronze,3587-5.html
http://www.overclock.net/t/1431436/why-you-should-not-buy-a-corsair-cx

Don't ask others to educate you, do your homework before you go spreading fud about stuff because you bought some crap for $50 and it works because you plugged it in.

I ONLY use this to power my single S3:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?gclid=Cj0KEQjwx4yfBRCt2rrAs-P5vtkBEiQAOdFXbfyYxK8BNRjcG4HINOdFw3jsGBwqz5piwisbeBuPMD8aArEq8P8HAQ&Item=N82E16817139079&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Power+Supplies-_-N82E16817139079&ef_id=U54GbwAABJyCojXI:20140808042436:s

If i were to overclock i would need something more powerful like plugging it directly into the sun or.... To the sub basement!


Sorry but your sarcasm does not interest me. The fact you own a trash power supply and are making fun of a quality one, maybe that might be funny to you, but typically gamers/mainstream miners are clueless about hardware. Then again, majority of people are too.

As long as you are aware you own a trash psu, then that is fine. You do have to buy what you can afford, and spending $400 on a miner and being cheap on a power supply is hands down dumb. If you are too broke to spend the extra $20 on a better psu then you are doing it wrong.
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A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.

OK...let's make this simple.  A CX500 will absolutely, positively power an S3 at stock clock ...I've been running three batch 5s for two days now - avg 438Gh/s on the CX500's (I used 5 CX500s to run five S1s previousl - they draw nearly the same AMPs as an S3)  The CX 500's are selling at Newegg.com for $29.99 after $20.00 rebate right now.

One PSU per miner means if one PSU dies, only one miner dies (not that any of my Corsair, EVGA or any other name brand PSUs have died since I started seriously mining about 5 months ago).

I don't get why y'all are buying these huge, expensive PSUs to support multiple miners...what's the point? And the next person that tells me they are buying gold or platinum PSUs because they are "more efficient", better be able to justify the additional expense vs. actual electric cost savings over 80 or so days...show me the math that proves the "more efficient" PSUs actually ROI better for our very specific scenario.

Simple and plain. YES the cx500 will run an antminer stock.

Don't be ignorant and do your own research.
You are at 72% load on the cx500 and ~80% on the 12v rail. This power supply at 50% load is 86% efficient.
Better power supplies offer better all around features such as voltage regulation, ripple, and more efficient at certain loads.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-review-80-plus-bronze,3587-5.html
http://www.overclock.net/t/1431436/why-you-should-not-buy-a-corsair-cx

Don't ask others to educate you, do your homework before you go spreading fud about stuff because you bought some crap for $50 and it works because you plugged it in.

I ONLY use this to power my single S3:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?gclid=Cj0KEQjwx4yfBRCt2rrAs-P5vtkBEiQAOdFXbfyYxK8BNRjcG4HINOdFw3jsGBwqz5piwisbeBuPMD8aArEq8P8HAQ&Item=N82E16817139079&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Power+Supplies-_-N82E16817139079&ef_id=U54GbwAABJyCojXI:20140808042436:s

If i were to overclock i would need something more powerful like plugging it directly into the sun or.... To the sub basement!


I heard the sun has a 5 billion year warranty.
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A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.

OK...let's make this simple.  A CX500 will absolutely, positively power an S3 at stock clock ...I've been running three batch 5s for two days now - avg 438Gh/s on the CX500's (I used 5 CX500s to run five S1s previousl - they draw nearly the same AMPs as an S3)  The CX 500's are selling at Newegg.com for $29.99 after $20.00 rebate right now.

One PSU per miner means if one PSU dies, only one miner dies (not that any of my Corsair, EVGA or any other name brand PSUs have died since I started seriously mining about 5 months ago).

I don't get why y'all are buying these huge, expensive PSUs to support multiple miners...what's the point? And the next person that tells me they are buying gold or platinum PSUs because they are "more efficient", better be able to justify the additional expense vs. actual electric cost savings over 80 or so days...show me the math that proves the "more efficient" PSUs actually ROI better for our very specific scenario.

Simple and plain. YES the cx500 will run an antminer stock.

Don't be ignorant and do your own research.
You are at 72% load on the cx500 and ~80% on the 12v rail. This power supply at 50% load is 86% efficient.
Better power supplies offer better all around features such as voltage regulation, ripple, and more efficient at certain loads.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-review-80-plus-bronze,3587-5.html
http://www.overclock.net/t/1431436/why-you-should-not-buy-a-corsair-cx

Don't ask others to educate you, do your homework before you go spreading fud about stuff because you bought some crap for $50 and it works because you plugged it in.

I ONLY use this to power my single S3:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?gclid=Cj0KEQjwx4yfBRCt2rrAs-P5vtkBEiQAOdFXbfyYxK8BNRjcG4HINOdFw3jsGBwqz5piwisbeBuPMD8aArEq8P8HAQ&Item=N82E16817139079&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Power+Supplies-_-N82E16817139079&ef_id=U54GbwAABJyCojXI:20140808042436:s

If i were to overclock i would need something more powerful like plugging it directly into the sun or.... To the sub basement!
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A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.

I am running an overclocked s3 on a cx500 right now. 14 days and its fine...so....

Same here, for about a week. Running fine but it pulls 450 watts at the wall. My other unit won't OC well but does 440 stock and 375 watts at the wall.

I hear the guy about the EVGAs. $56 per S3 is a good deal with the added efficiency and other extras. I only bought 2 S3s so I only spent $50 for each CX500. In hindsight it would have been nice to get 3 S3s and a EVGA 1300
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So its Aug 8th now and my Batch 5 order still hasnt shipped! I have contacted bitmain and no response.  I can even still edit my order: Create Time: 2014-07-31 12:40:13.0

Considering that 1) bitmain raised their prices after batch 4 and 2) posted on this forum they were actually shipping early, I find this very concerning.  Now i know, that "eventually" ill get them but in this very competitive market everyday counts and as does the word of a trusted company.

So before i get all the "well if you dont like it..." comments, let me just say that all im doing is stating that in my case bitmain did not fulfill its promise.  I also know that I cant be the only one.  So just an FYI to you all.  Bitmain can/does miss its promise shipped dates so plan accordingly. Cheers.
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A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.

OK...let's make this simple.  A CX500 will absolutely, positively power an S3 at stock clock ...I've been running three batch 5s for two days now - avg 438Gh/s on the CX500's (I used 5 CX500s to run five S1s previousl - they draw nearly the same AMPs as an S3)  The CX 500's are selling at Newegg.com for $29.99 after $20.00 rebate right now.

One PSU per miner means if one PSU dies, only one miner dies (not that any of my Corsair, EVGA or any other name brand PSUs have died since I started seriously mining about 5 months ago).

I don't get why y'all are buying these huge, expensive PSUs to support multiple miners...what's the point? And the next person that tells me they are buying gold or platinum PSUs because they are "more efficient", better be able to justify the additional expense vs. actual electric cost savings over 80 or so days...show me the math that proves the "more efficient" PSUs actually ROI better for our very specific scenario.

Simple and plain. YES the cx500 will run an antminer stock.

Don't be ignorant and do your own research.
You are at 72% load on the cx500 and ~80% on the 12v rail. This power supply at 50% load is 86% efficient.
Better power supplies offer better all around features such as voltage regulation, ripple, and more efficient at certain loads.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-review-80-plus-bronze,3587-5.html
http://www.overclock.net/t/1431436/why-you-should-not-buy-a-corsair-cx

Don't ask others to educate you, do your homework before you go spreading fud about stuff because you bought some crap for $50 and it works because you plugged it in.
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A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.

OK...let's make this simple.  A CX500 will absolutely, positively power an S3 at stock clock ...I've been running three batch 5s for two days now - avg 438Gh/s on the CX500's (I used 5 CX500s to run five S1s previousl - they draw nearly the same AMPs as an S3)  The CX 500's are selling at Newegg.com for $29.99 after $20.00 rebate right now.

One PSU per miner means if one PSU dies, only one miner dies (not that any of my Corsair, EVGA or any other name brand PSUs have died since I started seriously mining about 5 months ago).

I don't get why y'all are buying these huge, expensive PSUs to support multiple miners...what's the point? And the next person that tells me they are buying gold or platinum PSUs because they are "more efficient", better be able to justify the additional expense vs. actual electric cost savings over 80 or so days...show me the math that proves the "more efficient" PSUs actually ROI better for our very specific scenario.
 you want math here

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-1300G2-ATX12V-120-G2-1300-XR/dp/B00COIZTZM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407467214&sr=8-1&keywords=evga+1300


cost 188   rebate 20 = 168 for 3 s-3's   or 56 for 1 s-3.

I paid 155 for mine which was 51.66 an s-1.

10 year warranty.  you get 3 years.  you pay 29.99 for your first one then 49.99 and 49.99.

  your total cost 130 my total cost 168.  

 so after I am done with my s-1's I use it for my s-3's

 feb to july s-1's
I still have 9 plus years warranty.  These will be used for years to mine.  how long is your warranty?

 I use 1 power cord.   you use 3 power cords.  I get a quality psu trick switch which means if I burn up my house I can sue them.

you use  a paper clip good luck with that in  a court of law.

hey you want cx500's cool enjoy them.

you pull how much power to run at a 237 over clock ?

 I pull 365 watts and can run 3 s-3's if I want

 

Wow, easily one of the worst posts here. You cant sue companies based outside the US...
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A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.

OK...let's make this simple.  A CX500 will absolutely, positively power an S3 at stock clock ...I've been running three batch 5s for two days now - avg 438Gh/s on the CX500's (I used 5 CX500s to run five S1s previousl - they draw nearly the same AMPs as an S3)  The CX 500's are selling at Newegg.com for $29.99 after $20.00 rebate right now.

One PSU per miner means if one PSU dies, only one miner dies (not that any of my Corsair, EVGA or any other name brand PSUs have died since I started seriously mining about 5 months ago).

I don't get why y'all are buying these huge, expensive PSUs to support multiple miners...what's the point? And the next person that tells me they are buying gold or platinum PSUs because they are "more efficient", better be able to justify the additional expense vs. actual electric cost savings over 80 or so days...show me the math that proves the "more efficient" PSUs actually ROI better for our very specific scenario.
 you want math here

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-1300G2-ATX12V-120-G2-1300-XR/dp/B00COIZTZM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407467214&sr=8-1&keywords=evga+1300


cost 188   rebate 20 = 168 for 3 s-3's   or 56 for 1 s-3.

I paid 155 for mine which was 51.66 an s-1.

10 year warranty.  you get 3 years.  you pay 29.99 for your first one then 49.99 and 49.99.

  your total cost 130 my total cost 168.  

 so after I am done with my s-1's I use it for my s-3's

 feb to july s-1's
I still have 9 plus years warranty.  These will be used for years to mine.  how long is your warranty?

 I use 1 power cord.   you use 3 power cords.  I get a quality psu trick switch which means if I burn up my house I can sue them.

you use  a paper clip good luck with that in  a court of law.

hey you want cx500's cool enjoy them.

you pull how much power to run at a 237 over clock ?

 I pull 365 watts and can run 3 s-3's if I want

 

Thank you..that was an Amazingly stupid response without any math related to our very specific scenario...which is exactly what I expected.  

Miners need to have a Return on Investment ("ROI")  [apologies to any of you that have actual experience in finance - I realize this is a woefully bastardized definition of "ROI"] in about 80 - 90 days.  

Take your "buy" price for the hardware (including miner, PSU, cabling, switches, etc), subtract your expected "sell" price for some or all of the above, add the value of BTC you expect to produce (based on your estimate of change in difficulty and your estimate of the change in the exchange rate between BTC and your local currency over your the period you expect to mine) , subtract your energy cost, subtract whatever you think your time is worth; and you have a rough "ROI" estimate.  

Saying your PSU has a 10 year warranty is meaningless, unless your plan is to continue to use this PSU for 10+ years for the very specific purpose of mining.  I pay $29.99 for each CX500 because I have at least a minimal degree of intelligence and realize that these PSUs go on sale with the same $29.99 net cost every 3 or 4 weeks. So I buy one whenever they go on sale; get my rebate card; and use it.  Not exactly rocket science.  I can get 5.6 CX500s for every EVGA 1300 you have.

Oh, and as to your "court of law" / "paperclip" comment...you really are a moron...before spouting nonsense about what would or would not become a successful claim, do even a little bit of research...please???

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A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.

I am running an overclocked s3 on a cx500 right now. 14 days and its fine...so....
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A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.

OK...let's make this simple.  A CX500 will absolutely, positively power an S3 at stock clock ...I've been running three batch 5s for two days now - avg 438Gh/s on the CX500's (I used 5 CX500s to run five S1s previousl - they draw nearly the same AMPs as an S3)  The CX 500's are selling at Newegg.com for $29.99 after $20.00 rebate right now.

One PSU per miner means if one PSU dies, only one miner dies (not that any of my Corsair, EVGA or any other name brand PSUs have died since I started seriously mining about 5 months ago).

I don't get why y'all are buying these huge, expensive PSUs to support multiple miners...what's the point? And the next person that tells me they are buying gold or platinum PSUs because they are "more efficient", better be able to justify the additional expense vs. actual electric cost savings over 80 or so days...show me the math that proves the "more efficient" PSUs actually ROI better for our very specific scenario.
 you want math here

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-1300G2-ATX12V-120-G2-1300-XR/dp/B00COIZTZM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407467214&sr=8-1&keywords=evga+1300


cost 188   rebate 20 = 168 for 3 s-3's   or 56 for 1 s-3.

I paid 155 for mine which was 51.66 an s-1.

10 year warranty.  you get 3 years.  you pay 29.99 for your first one then 49.99 and 49.99.

  your total cost 130 my total cost 168.  

 so after I am done with my s-1's I use it for my s-3's

 feb to july s-1's
I still have 9 plus years warranty.  These will be used for years to mine.  how long is your warranty?

 I use 1 power cord.   you use 3 power cords.  I get a quality psu trick switch which means if I burn up my house I can sue them.

you use  a paper clip good luck with that in  a court of law.

hey you want cx500's cool enjoy them.

you pull how much power to run at a 237 over clock ?

 I pull 365 watts and can run 3 s-3's if I want

 
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A cx600 would be useless to over clock a s3! I need 2 cx750 to have two overclocked s3s

Why do you say that?  Have you actually run an S3 with a CX600?

Even if an OC'd S3 draws 450w at the wall, it only represents a 73% load on the CX600.



That's not really how power supplies work. Overall wattage is not the representation of how much power it can give on the 12v rail.
The cx600 has a 46A on the 12V rail, this is 552watts. That's 81.5%load without the added power draw from the wall minus efficiency of the power supply.
Seems it only comes with 2x PCI-E adaptors, so you would need molex to PCI-E or sata to PCI-E if you wanted to connect all 4.

OK...let's make this simple.  A CX500 will absolutely, positively power an S3 at stock clock ...I've been running three batch 5s for two days now - avg 438Gh/s on the CX500's (I used 5 CX500s to run five S1s previousl - they draw nearly the same AMPs as an S3)  The CX 500's are selling at Newegg.com for $29.99 after $20.00 rebate right now.

One PSU per miner means if one PSU dies, only one miner dies (not that any of my Corsair, EVGA or any other name brand PSUs have died since I started seriously mining about 5 months ago).

I don't get why y'all are buying these huge, expensive PSUs to support multiple miners...what's the point? And the next person that tells me they are buying gold or platinum PSUs because they are "more efficient", better be able to justify the additional expense vs. actual electric cost savings over 80 or so days...show me the math that proves the "more efficient" PSUs actually ROI better for our very specific scenario.
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That HW seems high! I have 1600 HW after 13 days of mining non stop. 452,000 shares accepted and 1600 HW. This is also with 250 frequency.

Amazing ability to reply quoting a huge post with pictures without even reading it. Accepted shares means nothing with respect to HW. You need to look at DiffA and DiffR AS EXPLAINED IN THE POST YOU QUOTED.
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