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legendary
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These are stats from B4 S3s after hashing for about 33 hours at stock clock.  To the S3 experts in here, do you see anything that stands out which needs to be addressed other than the hilarious fan speeds or are they pretty much running within spec and performing as expected?

http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w576/visdude/S3-1_zps11b8a00f.jpg


http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w576/visdude/S3-2_zps1f13d617.jpg

Each is powered by a Corsair CX500 (non-modular version) which seems to be fine.  I first tried its modular sibling, the CX500M, but the single flat modular PCIe harness/cable got hot very quickly.  So, I strongly suggest to not use a Corsair CX500M (modular) to power an S3.

As much as I like Corsair products, I think they dropped the ball on the CX500M.  Instead of having 2 separate modular PCIe harnesses from the PSU, each with a single PCIe power connector like the CX500, the CX500M only has a single PCIe harness that cascades or splits into 2 PCIe power connectors.  It's merely cosmetic (modular - less clutter) rather than functional.  What were they thinking?  But then again, Corsair most likely expected the CX500M to power a mATX or a Mini-ITX HTPC/Gaming platform with a single mid-range GPU that requires 2 PCIe power connectors and not an S3 in a 24/7 operation.

With an 80 Plus Bronze PSU (CX500), power draw at the wall (using Kill A Watt) ranges from 358W at 28C (82F) ambient room temperature to 365W at 35C (95F).

At an ambient room temperature of 35C (95F), the S3 temperature hovers around 45C (113F).  I am not sure how accurate the temperature sensor in the S3 is but a 10C delta is excellent for an air-cooled device.



strange, I run S1 on CX500M at 275 mhz for more than a month and a half (slightly overclocked; ~400W) and it was OK with wires a bit warm, but not burning, although i had an extra fan providing more airflow around the miner-maybe this was the difference.
legendary
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Yes Batch 4 onward seems more stable with the expense of higher fans speed.
Any one tried backing up the S3 batch4 firmware and load it to the earlier batches?
Also need to look at the hardware components for any changes.
Can any one post the both blade images and control panels of batch 4 or later S3 herE?

I don't think the fan speed figures are accurate.  I'm almost sure that I could tell the difference between a fan that spins at 4000 RPM and one that spins at a whopping 15300 RPM as in my case Wink.

hero member
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Hey all.  I ordered 4 units and 1 of the four units 8 asics never init; they are not over clocked.  Ive had my fair share of running S1's so was used to the occasional reboot to resolve asics that drop offline.  However these never come online and I've rebooted so many times I'm just ready to send it back for replacement.  

The question i have is, how long does it generally take to receive a response back from bitmain?  My initial question was sent to them using the website form over at bitmaintech.com on july 30th, and also another message sent on august 3rd.  Im starting to worry at this point, thus me questioning the forums.  Has anyone successfully submitted an RMA request and have any comments from experience on the process in general and how long do things take to get moving and to receive replacement?

In my experience, sometimes they respond with in minutes or hours.
Sometimes even take days and other times never respond to email and pm.
RMA also takes out your precious time earning BTC.
Try to solve the miner issue yourselves as much as possible.
If you go back in this thread you can see the guides to trouble shoot.
In your case, if you are using a sufficient power supply then thermal paste may be the issue.
Unscrew the front heat sink and replace the thermal paste with a new thermal grease of above 3 thermal conductivy.
legendary
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These are stats from B4 S3s after hashing for about 33 hours at stock clock.  To the S3 experts in here, do you see anything that stands out which needs to be addressed other than the hilarious fan speeds or are they pretty much running within spec and performing as expected?






Each is powered by a Corsair CX500 (non-modular version) which seems to be fine.  I first tried its modular sibling, the CX500M, but the single flat modular PCIe harness/cable got hot very quickly.  So, I strongly suggest to not use a Corsair CX500M (modular) to power an S3.

As much as I like Corsair products, I think they dropped the ball on the CX500M.  Instead of having 2 separate modular PCIe harnesses from the PSU, each with a single PCIe power connector like the CX500, the CX500M only has a single PCIe harness that cascades or splits into 2 PCIe power connectors.  It's merely cosmetic (modular - less clutter) rather than functional.  What were they thinking?  But then again, Corsair most likely expected the CX500M to power a mATX or a Mini-ITX HTPC/Gaming platform with a single mid-range GPU that requires 2 PCIe power connectors and not an S3 in a 24/7 operation.

With an 80 Plus Bronze PSU (CX500), power draw at the wall (using Kill A Watt) ranges from 358W at 28C (82F) ambient room temperature to 365W at 35C (95F).

At an ambient room temperature of 35C (95F), the S3 temperature hovers around 45C (113F).  I am not sure how accurate the temperature sensor in the S3 is but a 10C delta is excellent for an air-cooled device.



Have you done any edit to this post you earlier posted and deleted?
If no changes then all figures look almost ok except the fan speed 15300 and temp 44.

Yep!  I accidentally posted it halfway through.

newbie
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Hey all.  I ordered 4 units and 1 of the four units 8 asics never init; they are not over clocked.  Ive had my fair share of running S1's so was used to the occasional reboot to resolve asics that drop offline.  However these never come online and I've rebooted so many times I'm just ready to send it back for replacement.  

The question i have is, how long does it generally take to receive a response back from bitmain?  My initial question was sent to them using the website form over at bitmaintech.com on july 30th, and also another message sent on august 3rd.  Im starting to worry at this point, thus me questioning the forums.  Has anyone successfully submitted an RMA request and have any comments from experience on the process in general and how long do things take to get moving and to receive replacement?
hero member
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These are stats from B4 S3s after hashing for about 33 hours at stock clock.  To the S3 experts in here, do you see anything that stands out which needs to be addressed other than the hilarious fan speeds or are they pretty much running within spec and performing as expected?






Each is powered by a Corsair CX500 (non-modular version) which seems to be fine.  I first tried its modular sibling, the CX500M, but the single flat modular PCIe harness/cable got hot very quickly.  So, I strongly suggest to not use a Corsair CX500M (modular) to power an S3.

As much as I like Corsair products, I think they dropped the ball on the CX500M.  Instead of having 2 separate modular PCIe harnesses from the PSU, each with a single PCIe power connector like the CX500, the CX500M only has a single PCIe harness that cascades or splits into 2 PCIe power connectors.  It's merely cosmetic (modular - less clutter) rather than functional.  What were they thinking?  But then again, Corsair most likely expected the CX500M to power a mATX or a Mini-ITX HTPC/Gaming platform with a single mid-range GPU that requires 2 PCIe power connectors and not an S3 in a 24/7 operation.

With an 80 Plus Bronze PSU (CX500), power draw at the wall (using Kill A Watt) ranges from 358W at 28C (82F) ambient room temperature to 365W at 35C (95F).

At an ambient room temperature of 35C (95F), the S3 temperature hovers around 45C (113F).  I am not sure how accurate the temperature sensor in the S3 is but a 10C delta is excellent for an air-cooled device.



Have you done any edit to this post you earlier posted and deleted?
If no changes then all figures look almost ok except the fan speed 15300 and temp 44.
hero member
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Quote
Balance : Change multipool strategy from failover to even share balance.
Load Balance: Change multipool strategy from failover to quota based balance.
Any one tried the Balance and Load Balance options in S3?



I did with crappy results. Lots of rejects and hash rates that did not make sense. I think it's the buggy firmware.  Liking the upgraded unit with the 2 QC stickers,  impressive.

The barcode label is missing.
legendary
Activity: 1081
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These are stats from B4 S3s after hashing for about 33 hours at stock clock.  To the S3 experts in here, do you see anything that stands out which needs to be addressed other than the hilarious fan speeds or are they pretty much running within spec and performing as expected?






Each is powered by a Corsair CX500 (non-modular version) which seems to be fine.  I first tried its modular sibling, the CX500M, but the single flat modular PCIe harness/cable got hot very quickly.  So, I strongly suggest to not use a Corsair CX500M (modular) to power an S3.

As much as I like Corsair products, I think they dropped the ball on the CX500M.  Instead of having 2 separate modular PCIe harnesses from the PSU, each with a single PCIe power connector like the CX500, the CX500M only has a single PCIe harness that cascades or splits into 2 PCIe power connectors.  It's merely cosmetic (modular - less clutter) rather than functional.  What were they thinking?  But then again, Corsair most likely expected the CX500M to power a mATX or a Mini-ITX HTPC/Gaming platform with a single mid-range GPU that requires 2 PCIe power connectors and not an S3 in a 24/7 operation.

With an 80 Plus Bronze PSU (CX500), power draw at the wall (using Kill A Watt) ranges from 358W at 28C (82F) ambient room temperature to 365W at 35C (95F).

At an ambient room temperature of 35C (95F), the S3 temperature hovers around 45C (113F).  I am not sure how accurate the temperature sensor in the S3 is but a 10C delta is excellent for an air-cooled device.

hero member
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Yes Batch 4 onward seems more stable with the expense of higher fans speed.
Any one tried backing up the S3 batch4 firmware and load it to the earlier batches?
Also need to look at the hardware components for any changes.
Can any one post the both blade images and control panels of batch 4 or later S3 herE?
full member
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Just got my first two antminer s3 and just got them set up. So far they hashing at 450 gh/s avg with jumps to 500 gh/s with a avg on nicehash at 950 gh/s for both of them. It's only been 2 hours. I got them at stock clocks.

Nothing below 440 gh/s yet...looks like batch 5 is solid like a rock!

Thanks bitmain!

Also my second batch already shipped! Should have it Wednesday.

Folks use DHL if you are in the USA or Canada!

DHL rocks!

 

My B3 units are veritable lemons, I need to restart them every 1/2 hour to keep it over 400gh. My B5 units are all hashing 440gh at stock clocks after 4.5 hours.
member
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Quote
Balance : Change multipool strategy from failover to even share balance.
Load Balance: Change multipool strategy from failover to quota based balance.
Any one tried the Balance and Load Balance options in S3?



I did with crappy results. Lots of rejects and hash rates that did not make sense. I think it's the buggy firmware.  Liking the upgraded unit with the 2 QC stickers,  impressive.
sr. member
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Just got my first two antminer s3 and just got them set up. So far they hashing at 450 gh/s avg with jumps to 500 gh/s with a avg on nicehash at 950 gh/s for both of them. It's only been 2 hours. I got them at stock clocks.

Nothing below 440 gh/s yet...looks like batch 5 is solid like a rock!

Thanks bitmain!

Also my second batch already shipped! Should have it Wednesday.

Folks use DHL if you are in the USA or Canada!

DHL rocks!

 
member
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hey folks,

I've been looking around for a power supply suitable for overclocking a single unit. I will run the unit stock for a time, then oc it sometime later. I would like a power supply suitable for both modes of operation. So far, I find plenty of 2x pcie units, but very few 4x pcie units (ive been told oc'ing requires all 4 pcie cables to be connected.) Can someone please point me to a suitable product that has 4 pcie connectors for ocing (or point me to a unit that can do it with two cables)? It would be greatly appreciated, this has caused me a great deal of confusion. Pardon if this has been covered before.

~Green

I oc'ed one of my units using only 2 cables and is doing 500Gh/s happily. Others have reported issues with using 4 cables and the way I look at it is, the S1 only uses 2 cables and they draw more power so it should be a non-issue.
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So. This is a thing. Anyone know where I can source those 477 6.3V caps?
Funny thing is, the miner still hashes over 400GH

Try this http://uk.farnell.com/avx/tajd477k006rnj/cap-tant-470uf-6-3v-case-d/dp/1135049
Min order qty is 1.

I am certain these units are the same, but can I get a second confirmation from another member?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KEMET-SURFACE-MOUNT-TANTALUM-CAPACITOR-T491D477K006AT-470uf-6-3V-D-CASE-RoHS-10P-/190750764760?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c69a1aed8
member
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Not feasible for me as my controller board's Ethernet interface is completely dead - so it's not even possible to get into it with the default IP address to configure anything let alone see the logs. 

Other people have comparatively minor issues and at least get some hashing out of their units.  Mine is completely dead in the water going on a week now, extending to at least another week.

I have 3 S1 units, and thought about swapping the controller from them, but they're still profitable and I don't want to muck anything up that is actually still running.

BITMAIN - PLEASE JUST SEND REPLACEMENT BOARDS TO THOSE WHO NEED THEM AND HAVE ESTABLISHED THAT IS THEIR PROBLEM.  WAITING 2+ WEEKS FOR A SOLUTION KILLS OUR PROFITABILITY.

But apparently the only thing that seems to matter to them is their own profitability.

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You could try the wifi.  If you place your S3s right next to your router,  your router should see them.
hero member
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[IM]https://i.imgur.com/vGexh34.jpg?1[/img]

So. This is a thing. Anyone know where I can source those 477 6.3V caps?
Funny thing is, the miner still hashes over 400GH
How does that even happen, shipping ?

Anyone else notice bad caps etc on their S3's ?

Love to see a picture of bitmain employees assembling these S3-es.
That will explain all about thermal paste and cap issues.
legendary
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So. This is a thing. Anyone know where I can source those 477 6.3V caps?
Funny thing is, the miner still hashes over 400GH
How does that even happen, shipping ?

Anyone else notice bad caps etc on their S3's ?
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 504


So. This is a thing. Anyone know where I can source those 477 6.3V caps?
Funny thing is, the miner still hashes over 400GH

Try this http://uk.farnell.com/avx/tajd477k006rnj/cap-tant-470uf-6-3v-case-d/dp/1135049
Min order qty is 1.
legendary
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got my 5 antminers from batch 4 and all works great on p2pool but showing strange fanspeed 5000-9000RPM Cheesy
ofc its a bug becouse it would be jumbojet noise. I flashed one with same firmware from 21 july (downlaoded from bitmaintech site) and fanspeeds didnt change ;p so its the same firmware not as someone above said that its diferent ;p
Dang 5000-9000 rpm would be cointerra loud!
and even at those speeds the cointerra would be pushing 90-120C (cointerra tech says 120c is ok   Shocked )even with AC blowing directly on them. Soo glad I got rid of those abominations. The Bitmain are sooo much better, cost less, cost less to run and run cooler.


i think it must be some kind of error because all of mine are getting crazy fan speeds too.
i even had one reach as high as 14000 .. they do not sound like jet engines so must be an error.
btw overclocking:



225       -1x   440g/hs
250   stable   495g/hs
250   stable   510g/hs
250   stable   495g/hs
237   stable   475g/hs
250   stable   480g/hs
250   stable   500g/hs
250   stable   500g/hs


i have one asic number 10 hashing with one x .. i might pull that one and open up heat sinks again and look.
i think the other one at 237 could reach 250. i probably test again soon. the last one that is 0's is on my
workbench opened up waiting on my 30g of thermal paste to arrive. i am working on additional thermal
paste tests on that one when the thermal paste arrives.


hero member
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Looking at purchasing a couple of S3s.  Were there any coupons for people who bought S2?  Just curious.  Thanks in advance.

No coupons yet - batch 4

I'll just make my purchase

worry about them later.
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