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legendary
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Well, I'm done for now.  I was mistakenly working with an old cost/kw, thinking the base was 7½¢ per but now the base is up over 8¢ and realistically working the gross cost per kw, 10.147¢.  I was running two S3's, 1½ S3+'s, two C1's, fans and pumps, window fan, and 1 S5, plus 2 laptops (could have gotten away with one).  Took two days meter readings, 112.5kw each day, then 24 hours no miners, 16kw.  Now there's likely a sliding scale with a lower surcharge with greater usage but this tells me that discounting that my base usage will cost more, it cost me $348 gross per 30.5 day month, $49.52 per month non-mining related, or $298.48 in mining costs (not counting power supply repair parts costs) while I took in ~$247 last month.  Or I lost $51.  I'll go a few days and get a better average for non-mining costs, then fire up the S5 for a day and see what I get.  But it looks like I'm done except in winter and that's relatively short down here in rural Georgia. 
legendary
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hi can someone show me pic how to connect all cables on rm 850 with s3+. Thanks

It's not bad at all, here is the manual - https://bitmain.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/200916329-S3-Manual

Basically you need at least one PCI-e cable plugged into each blade. I believe on that model PSU it has 2 cables of it.  So one cable would go to each side (one left one right).  Then plug in the network cable and your ready to go!

If you have any problems just let us know.
newbie
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hi can someone show me pic how to connect all cables on rm 850 with s3+. Thanks
legendary
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Thanks for clarifying.   I was thinking of PCIE as 6+2 in my head.   Was not thinking of 8 pin I missed putting that part together  Smiley.  You make a valid point.  I don't know if I have used 8 Pin miner I don't think I have.   I think it's nice as it keeps lot's of old PSU's able to use them that if 8 would not be able to.

Power for miners is an interesting topic.  There is a recent trend to go with server power supplies.  There are lot's of breakout boards for cheap server psu's.  Bitmain also selling one of their own now: https://www.bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201505040743496917U7kGsCm0694



that is a really nice power supply..
i would probably have bought one. but

1. The PSU cannot be used in countries with a mains power voltage lower than 205V. The PSU will not start below this voltage.

they kind of dropped the ball with that one..


220 or 240 is actual not that hard to get.  I originally thought it was some big problem for me as well.

But going from a 110/120 in a breaker box is pretty easy.  I got 240 added into one of my mining areas.   Main costs are a 220/240 breaker, wire, and PDU if using one.    If you call a electrician a decent amount of them will give you a quote on how to do it. And some do it on their own depending on knowledge.

I won't go off topic to much Smiley.  Best of luck mining!
legendary
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Thanks for clarifying.   I was thinking of PCIE as 6+2 in my head.   Was not thinking of 8 pin I missed putting that part together  Smiley.  You make a valid point.  I don't know if I have used 8 Pin miner I don't think I have.   I think it's nice as it keeps lot's of old PSU's able to use them that if 8 would not be able to.

Power for miners is an interesting topic.  There is a recent trend to go with server power supplies.  There are lot's of breakout boards for cheap server psu's.  Bitmain also selling one of their own now: https://www.bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201505040743496917U7kGsCm0694



that is a really nice power supply..
i would probably have bought one. but

1. The PSU cannot be used in countries with a mains power voltage lower than 205V. The PSU will not start below this voltage.

they kind of dropped the ball with that one..

legendary
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no, if you look at newer video cards they have 2 8pin connectors instead of 6 pin..
they have 2 extra grounds.. that allow the cord to use 300 watts instead of 150.

the s5 is over the 6 pin pci-e spec and the s3 was close to it or over by just a tad if you oc.  




Thanks for clarifying.   I was thinking of PCIE as 6+2 in my head.   Was not thinking of 8 pin I missed putting that part together  Smiley.  You make a valid point.  I don't know if I have used 8 Pin miner I don't think I have.   I think it's nice as it keeps lot's of old PSU's able to use them that if 8 would not be able to.

Power for miners is an interesting topic.  There is a recent trend to go with server power supplies.  There are lot's of breakout boards for cheap server psu's.  Bitmain also selling one of their own now: https://www.bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201505040743496917U7kGsCm0694

legendary
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no, if you look at newer video cards they have 2 8pin connectors instead of 6 pin..
they have 2 extra grounds.. that allow the cord to use 150 watts instead of 75.

the s5 is over the 6 pin pci-e spec and the s3 was close to it or over by just a tad if you oc.




and only crappy PSUs daisy the 2 extra grounds, my season has actual 8 wire cables.
legendary
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Which 8 pin do you mean? 8 pin pcie or 8 pin EPS?

I'm thinking he means one of the 8 pin connecters on the back of some PSU's.  The modular atx PSU's are the ones normally might see them on.

I don't think so. He clearly say "bitmain should have used the 8 pin plugs.. "

I could very well be wrong.  I'm sure he will let us know what plug. 

I was just  thinking it's the bottom row hes talking about on his PSU, it has 8 pin adapters on it that turn into other adapters via cable. - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151102
legendary
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Which 8 pin do you mean? 8 pin pcie or 8 pin EPS?

I'm thinking he means one of the 8 pin connecters on the back of some PSU's.  The modular atx PSU's are the ones normally might see them on.

I don't think so. He clearly say "bitmain should have used the 8 pin plugs.. "
legendary
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Which 8 pin do you mean? 8 pin pcie or 8 pin EPS?

I'm thinking he means one of the 8 pin connecters on the back of some PSU's.  The modular atx PSU's are the ones normally might see them on.
legendary
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this happened awhile ago.. i got a new cord.. altho the socket is burned out a tad i just used the one next to it.. the psu has like 6 places you can plug the pci-e cord in..

it was like that for about 8 months.. just one day the rigs were offline so i went to check and the psu had tripped the power protection..

i had both pci-e connectors plugged into the one cable.. in the future i will not, and nobody should, use both pci-e plugs on the same cable.
i see pics all the time like this, even tho this is an s5..


and this is a bad idea.. running 200+ watts through one pci-e line..

i think bitmain should have used the 8 pin plugs..

I'm glad you got it running again.  PCI-e just a good cord and common cord for miners to use.  But it does have limitations (some psu's are better then others).  But pretty much any newer atx PSU has them that is why they are popular.

On that it was essentially one cable even though you  put it in two spots, since it was the two were sharing power.  Sorry you had that experience though. Definitely in future don't daisy chain the power like that.

legendary
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you have to be careful on how the plugs are.. some psus will have no problems supplying power to 2 s3s, or even 3.. but you may run into a problem like i had Sad

i was running 2 S3s off of ONE Seasonic x850 PSU.. there was no problems with the watts.. the problems was it has 4 PCI-E plugs with 2 ends each and i had all 8 plugged into the s3s..
this was the result.




im now running 2 off a rosewill lightning 1300 and one off the 850.

even tho the rosewill 1300 can do all 3, there is only 8 pci-e plugs.. so you are 4 short. (2 of the pci-e plugs have 2 each, so this is also an issue)



Normally when it burns up like that there is a psu problem, but you do have what should be a quality brand.  How long have you been running them on there?  What freq were they at?  What is ambient temp like?

Hope miner side looks good.  Don't see a pick of  it.  But I would use a psu tester if you have one. If not talk to seasonic and see if they RMA or just send a cord.

this happened awhile ago.. i got a new cord.. altho the socket is burned out a tad i just used the one next to it.. the psu has like 6 places you can plug the pci-e cord in..

it was like that for about 8 months.. just one day the rigs were offline so i went to check and the psu had tripped the power protection..

i had both pci-e connectors plugged into the one cable.. in the future i will not, and nobody should, use both pci-e plugs on the same cable.
i see pics all the time like this, even tho this is an s5..


and this is a bad idea.. running 200+ watts through one pci-e line..

i think bitmain should have used the 8 pin plugs..




Which 8 pin do you mean? 8 pin pcie or 8 pin EPS?
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1006
you have to be careful on how the plugs are.. some psus will have no problems supplying power to 2 s3s, or even 3.. but you may run into a problem like i had Sad

i was running 2 S3s off of ONE Seasonic x850 PSU.. there was no problems with the watts.. the problems was it has 4 PCI-E plugs with 2 ends each and i had all 8 plugged into the s3s..
this was the result.




im now running 2 off a rosewill lightning 1300 and one off the 850.

even tho the rosewill 1300 can do all 3, there is only 8 pci-e plugs.. so you are 4 short. (2 of the pci-e plugs have 2 each, so this is also an issue)



Normally when it burns up like that there is a psu problem, but you do have what should be a quality brand.  How long have you been running them on there?  What freq were they at?  What is ambient temp like?

Hope miner side looks good.  Don't see a pick of  it.  But I would use a psu tester if you have one. If not talk to seasonic and see if they RMA or just send a cord.

this happened awhile ago.. i got a new cord.. altho the socket is burned out a tad i just used the one next to it.. the psu has like 6 places you can plug the pci-e cord in..

it was like that for about 8 months.. just one day the rigs were offline so i went to check and the psu had tripped the power protection..

i had both pci-e connectors plugged into the one cable.. in the future i will not, and nobody should, use both pci-e plugs on the same cable.
i see pics all the time like this, even tho this is an s5..


and this is a bad idea.. running 200+ watts through one pci-e line..

i think bitmain should have used the 8 pin plugs..




legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
you have to be careful on how the plugs are.. some psus will have no problems supplying power to 2 s3s, or even 3.. but you may run into a problem like i had Sad

i was running 2 S3s off of ONE Seasonic x850 PSU.. there was no problems with the watts.. the problems was it has 4 PCI-E plugs with 2 ends each and i had all 8 plugged into the s3s..
this was the result.




im now running 2 off a rosewill lightning 1300 and one off the 850.

even tho the rosewill 1300 can do all 3, there is only 8 pci-e plugs.. so you are 4 short. (2 of the pci-e plugs have 2 each, so this is also an issue)



Normally when it burns up like that there is a psu problem, but you do have what should be a quality brand.  How long have you been running them on there?  What freq were they at?  What is ambient temp like?

Hope miner side looks good.  Don't see a pick of  it.  But I would use a psu tester if you have one. If not talk to seasonic and see if they RMA or just send a cord.
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1006
you have to be careful on how the plugs are.. some psus will have no problems supplying power to 2 s3s, or even 3.. but you may run into a problem like i had Sad

i was running 2 S3s off of ONE Seasonic x850 PSU.. there was no problems with the watts.. the problems was it has 4 PCI-E plugs with 2 ends each and i had all 8 plugged into the s3s..
this was the result.




im now running 2 off a rosewill lightning 1300 and one off the 850.

even tho the rosewill 1300 can do all 3, there is only 8 pci-e plugs.. so you are 4 short. (2 of the pci-e plugs have 2 each, so this is also an issue)

legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
Hi, i just bought 4 antminer S3+, now i need a power supply, can i go with 2 Corsair RM850 for all 4 miners?

Yes. You can put 2 on each. I've been doing for a while without any problems.

Each one should use around: 340 Watt at the wall

Depending on frequencies it could very but at two around 680 watts on default so should be well within range.  And with RM850 its a nice power supply.  So should be no problems at all.  I think you will like the RM series.  One say it's a gimmick but I like how they are able to run quiet depending on settings. 
sr. member
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Found Lost beach - quiet now
Hi, i just bought 4 antminer S3+, now i need a power supply, can i go with 2 Corsair RM850 for all 4 miners?

Yes. You can put 2 on each. I've been doing for a while without any problems.
newbie
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Hi, i just bought 4 antminer S3+, now i need a power supply, can i go with 2 Corsair RM850 for all 4 miners?
sr. member
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Found Lost beach - quiet now
Thanks guys. Both fans are running and I'm still able to monitor both temperatures so I'm going to leave as is. Just curious to see if others had same problem and if there was an easy fix.

The only reason I changed the firmware is because I had a bad controller and put in an S1 controller board (with conversion board) and needed the S3 firmware to hash. I did load firmware without carrying over settings and have rebooted a few times. I'm not going to worry about it and will leave alone since it's otherwise working great.
legendary
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I upgraded to the latest firmware and now the second fan speed no longer shows up in the Bitmain or M's monitor GUI.

Is this common and is there a fix?

I occasionally get such bugs. Sometimes the temperature line disappears. You can try another firmware, but I think you are good that way as well.

You can also install the firmware without keeping your settings, or reset the miner.

Moebius is very correct. Since you had it before that leads me to think it's software not hardware (I'm assuming fan still spins).  You could take a stab at installing firmware again to see if that fixes it.  That is best bet. 

I personally would leave it as long as it has one.  That gives you temp which is most important thing.  You want it to shutdown if it reaches extreme heat.  I had one like this once and had no issues as long as there is one temp gauge still going.
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