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Topic: ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread - page 497. (Read 710164 times)

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While we're waiting, does anyone have suggestions for the difficulty to set for S3 units (for pools that allow configurable difficulty, of course)?


I set my S1's at 256 as what is recommended and is also what I have had the most success with. 

Yes difficulty can make a significant difference, especially if a pool sets it automatically or has a very low default difficulty setting.

Since the S3's are about 2.5x faster than the S1, then I'd say a difficulty 512 would be a good logical place to start; 200 x 2.5 = 500

Where 200 is the max speed of a unit at 256 difficulty; I never don't overclock something.

I'd also try over and under 64, 128 & 256 differences to push the envelope and get that extra bunch of satoshi a day for doing nor spending on anything else  Grin
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Alternately, plug your S3, or switch, or anything with ethernet into one of these...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122373

I'm running 3 S-1's, a Dragon, 2 mining controllers, and a windows lap on a crappy 8 port switch with one of these.

I purchased one of these for 8 of them to run wireless http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TLIVBG/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 hopefully it works without issue I went with this one since I currently use a cisco e3000 (Wish I would have went with an asus) I don't see any reason why these wouldn't work a little on the pricey side however.
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Set your difficulty between 5XX and 2XX for units of ~480GH.

whats the purpose of doing that?You earn more? and how do you set up difficulty?

Technically setting low difficult or high difficulty will not give you any benefit in time.
But for lower hash power miners, setting higher difficulty will take a lot of time for the ASIC to hash and will report less frequently.
In that time higher has power miners may already be reported back and solved a block so the lower hashrate miner will always
report late and the work will go waste.
Same time if a lower difficulty is set the lower hash power miner will solve fast and report in time.
Likewise, if we set lower difficulty for higher hash rate miners, they will solve it fast and report very often lead to unwanted
traffic and its better to set a higher difficulty.


but that difficulty has to be configured on the pool? or in the antminer ?.

I mine @ bitminter.

And default difficulty of S1 / S3 its not good then?(i know no one has S3 yet but i suppose will the same as S1)
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Set your difficulty between 5XX and 2XX for units of ~480GH.

whats the purpose of doing that?You earn more? and how do you set up difficulty?

Technically setting low difficult or high difficulty will not give you any benefit in time.
But for lower hash power miners, setting higher difficulty will take a lot of time for the ASIC to hash and will report less frequently.
In that time higher has power miners may already be reported back and solved a block so the lower hashrate miner will always
report late and the work will go waste.
Same time if a lower difficulty is set the lower hash power miner will solve fast and report in time.
Likewise, if we set lower difficulty for higher hash rate miners, they will solve it fast and report very often lead to unwanted
traffic and its better to set a higher difficulty.
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Set your difficulty between 5XX and 2XX for units of ~480GH.

whats the purpose of doing that?You earn more? and how do you set up difficulty?
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Set your difficulty between 5XX and 2XX for units of ~480GH.
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While we're waiting, does anyone have suggestions for the difficulty to set for S3 units (for pools that allow configurable difficulty, of course)?

My current experience is limited to GridSeeds and Scrypt mining. In that case, where multiple ASIC units are effectively behind a single IP address, I have had more manageable results by configuring relatively low difficulty.

What I mean by "manageable" is that I can generally tell at a glance whether my rigs are doing well by how recently they've submitted shares. With lower difficulty, I rarely see the units struggling to submit. With higher difficulty, the GridSeeds would work in some cases for several hundred seconds before submitting. This sometimes mades it difficult to differentiate between a device that has gone non-responsive and one that's just working hard and hasn't submitted yet.

Also, and this is harder to quantify, but since I've moved to low-ish difficulty, none of my GridSeed units have hung. This is after many weeks of continuous uptime. Prior to overriding the difficulty, I'd see a unit go non-responsive (where no shares would be submitted for hours on end) every few days or so. The affected unit was not always the same, which might have indicated a software problem.

Maybe high difficulty, or long times between shares enabled the problem, so this observation might not translate to other rigs. Given that, it's hard to conclude that low difficulty equals stability in all cases. But with my rigs, that certainly appears to be the case.

I realize that from a statistical standpoint that difficulty has no effect on long term profitability. But as I've said, my experience has been that lower difficulty for my current ASIC-based rigs has made it easier to manage and spot problems.

I have no experience with any Antminer units. But if the S3 is made up of lots of ASIC chips, all of which are under the same IP address and effectively appearing as one 500 GH/s unit to the pool, would it be better to set a low-ish difficulty that more matches the compute power of the individual chips rather than the unit as a whole?
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And surprise surprise, they are not shipped yet!
They stated earlier it would be the 14th.  Let's not freak out yet, this is BITMAIN we're talking about.

Actually, it's my bad. I thought today was the 14th when I wrote that message. Smiley
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And surprise surprise, they are not shipped yet!
They stated earlier it would be the 14th.  Let's not freak out yet, this is BITMAIN we're talking about.
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And surprise surprise, they are not shipped yet!
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Alternately, plug your S3, or switch, or anything with ethernet into one of these...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122373

I'm running 3 S-1's, a Dragon, 2 mining controllers, and a windows lap on a crappy 8 port switch with one of these.
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Does the S3 have wifi?



no it does not.  you need a work around.    they are quite a few ways to work around it.     A switch like this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156251&cm_re=trendnet_teg-s80g-_-33-156-251-_-Product


and this item


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833109056


this will allow up to 7 s-3's

I happen to have the switch and  cables for it .  I do not have the tp-link

My listing for the switch is here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7751340

I charge the same and toss in free cables.  my switch is new and sealed

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Does the S3 have wifi?
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Bitmain please do all that you can to ship batch one orders as soon as possible.  We need them in our farms ASAP to break even!
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I use putty for my S1's...works like a charm.

I`ll gen up on linux commands then!!! (linux newbie-I like shiny GUI`s)
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Even with the delays and possible loss of ROI, I'm still irrationally looking forward to getting my S3's. I just wish they'd throw us a manual or something else to read while we're waiting.

As it is, this is like waiting at the DMV for our turn. Very boring...
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I use putty for my S1's...works like a charm.
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what programs do you guys use to ssh?

The reason I ask it that I use filezilla to manage my linux based HTPC, and i was wondering if I could use that instead of Putty to update configs etc?
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Pretty discouraging to see the updated ship date.  This means we will be 4-5 days into the next difficulty before getting them plugged in.   


the next difficulty change will be pretty easy on ROI since I can remember when. Wish they were all like that.
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