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Topic: ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread - page 501. (Read 710164 times)

sr. member
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EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W ATX12V/EPS12V 80Plus Gold Power Supply 120-G2-1000-XR

$164

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CGYCNG2/

might not not be enough for 2 S3 ants at max overclock of 554Gh

Max overclock is 554GH/s? But i suppose thats risky, right? better OC to a lower value maybe...??

When you guys have them, please post parameters for overclocking and how much GH/s u get and how much power they take

I have a 1000w gold supply and I plan to overclock to about 400w each s3, so that leaves good headroom and may pull about 510gh/s I reckon.  Max overclock will possibly increase the wattage by quite a bit so, to do that your better off going for a 1300w gold.

And do you know the parameters you have tu use in vim editor?.

I have 2 corsair CX750M, so i want to know whats the best option for GH/s and W power consume.

400w-->510GH/s u think its the best option then?
hero member
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EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W ATX12V/EPS12V 80Plus Gold Power Supply 120-G2-1000-XR

$164

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CGYCNG2/

might not not be enough for 2 S3 ants at max overclock of 554Gh

Max overclock is 554GH/s? But i suppose thats risky, right? better OC to a lower value maybe...??

When you guys have them, please post parameters for overclocking and how much GH/s u get and how much power they take

I have a 1000w gold supply and I plan to overclock to about 400w each s3, so that leaves good headroom and may pull about 510gh/s I reckon.  Max overclock will possibly increase the wattage by quite a bit so, to do that your better off going for a 1300w gold.
sr. member
Activity: 294
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EVGA SuperNOVA 1000G2 1000W ATX12V/EPS12V 80Plus Gold Power Supply 120-G2-1000-XR

$164

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CGYCNG2/

might not not be enough for 2 S3 ants at max overclock of 554Gh

Max overclock is 554GH/s? But i suppose thats risky, right? better OC to a lower value maybe...??

When you guys have them, please post parameters for overclocking and how much GH/s u get and how much power they take
hero member
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Watch out for the "Neg-Rep-Dogie-Police".....
Yep, eagerly awaiting update on p2pool compatibility fixes  Smiley
hero member
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Miner Setup And Reviews. WASP Rep.
Where i can buy ANTMiner S3 guys ?
can you help me  Grin

https://bitmaintech.com
full member
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★☆★Bitin.io★☆★
Where i can buy ANTMiner S3 guys ?
can you help me  Grin
hero member
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WANTED: Active dev to fix & re-write p2pool in C
Also I'd be interested on any new info from Bitmain regarding p2pool support. The last word was that they were looking into it and it might be a couple of weeks away. Hopefully a plan has firmed up and will this feature will be available in a firmware update soon.

I'd like to hear more about this as well...

How is p2pool support coming Bitmain?

Me too. Is there any news on this yet Bitmain? For both the S2's & S3's please.......... Wink
legendary
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Also I'd be interested on any new info from Bitmain regarding p2pool support. The last word was that they were looking into it and it might be a couple of weeks away. Hopefully a plan has firmed up and will this feature will be available in a firmware update soon.

I'd like to hear more about this as well...

How is p2pool support coming Bitmain?
legendary
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I hope that they update their support page soon with docs on the S3, not just the chipset.

Also I'd be interested on any new info from Bitmain regarding p2pool support. The last word was that they were looking into it and it might be a couple of weeks away. Hopefully a plan has firmed up and will this feature will be available in a firmware update soon.
newbie
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I'm sure they will start shipping batch #1 on Thursday and batches #2 and #3 shortly thereafter.  I trust Bitmain unlike Butterfly Labs etc...
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cryptoshark
Hope they start shipping s3 AntMiners this week for batch #1.


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i hope they will ship at 20th, knc style
legendary
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Is everyone in agreement that the EVGA 1300 will safely power two S3's overclocked?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438011&cm_re=evga_1300-_-17-438-011-_-Product

It should.  At 80% load (20% headroom), the SuperNOVA 1300 G2 could theoretically support two OC'd S3s up to 520WDC each (1300WDC*80%/2)which equates to 578WAC at the wall at 90% efficiency.  I think two CX750M is a better deal (also currently with a rebate) at the Egg.  It offers additional headroom (14.5% more) and the flexibility of having an independent PSU for each OC'd S3.

I like the idea of two CX750M's for two S3's instead of a single PSU. It removes the PSU as a single point of failure. Also I'm deploying at a data center where we have two power inputs. Having separate power supplies allows me to spread the load.

Amazon has the CX750M for $69.99 (prime), which is a better price than NewEgg. Of course NewEgg accepts BTC now. I haven't been through the process, so I don't know how they compute the price, or if they offer a discount for using BTC.

The CX750M has an 80 Plus Bronze rating compared to the SuperNOVA 1300's gold. Assuming the rating is accurate, that just means that the SuperNova has higher efficiency right?

Does anyone have any negatives to going with two CX750M units?

The trade-off that obviously stands out (I don't consider it a negative since both PSUs have certain trade-offs as already mentioned) is the difference in efficiency as you already stated.  At around 75% load, the CX750M 80 Plus Bronze is approximately 85% efficient while the SuperNOVA 1300 G2 80 Plus Gold is around 90%.  Is the difference in efficiency relatively significant in terms of energy cost?  Let's find out.

Let's assume that an OC'd S3 requires 425WDC from a PSU:

425WDC / 85% = 500WAC (draw at the wall with a CX750M)
425WDC / 90% = 472WAC (draw at the wall with a SuperNOVA 1300 G2)
500WAC - 472WAC = 28WAC (difference in at-the-wall wattage between the two PSUs)

Therefore:

28WAC * 24 hours / 1000 = 0.672kWh (difference in kilowatt-hour in a 24-hour period at this particular OC setting)
0.672kWh * $0.15 = $0.10 (difference in energy consumption cost in a 24-hour period based on $0.15/kWh energy rate at this particular OC setting)

Of course, this would be a moot point if one has free electricity.

Thanks for the detailed analysis. It's very helpful.

In my case I do have free power, but understanding how PSU efficiency affects the draw on the wall lets me more accurately compute the amp load. Fortunately I'm still under budget amp wise and two S3s powered by CX750M's should be fine.
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Hope they start shipping s3 AntMiners this week for batch #1.


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legendary
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Is everyone in agreement that the EVGA 1300 will safely power two S3's overclocked?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438011&cm_re=evga_1300-_-17-438-011-_-Product

It should.  At 80% load (20% headroom), the SuperNOVA 1300 G2 could theoretically support two OC'd S3s up to 520WDC each (1300WDC*80%/2)which equates to 578WAC at the wall at 90% efficiency.  I think two CX750M is a better deal (also currently with a rebate) at the Egg.  It offers additional headroom (14.5% more) and the flexibility of having an independent PSU for each OC'd S3.

I like the idea of two CX750M's for two S3's instead of a single PSU. It removes the PSU as a single point of failure. Also I'm deploying at a data center where we have two power inputs. Having separate power supplies allows me to spread the load.

Amazon has the CX750M for $69.99 (prime), which is a better price than NewEgg. Of course NewEgg accepts BTC now. I haven't been through the process, so I don't know how they compute the price, or if they offer a discount for using BTC.

The CX750M has an 80 Plus Bronze rating compared to the SuperNOVA 1300's gold. Assuming the rating is accurate, that just means that the SuperNova has higher efficiency right?

Does anyone have any negatives to going with two CX750M units?

The trade-off that obviously stands out (I don't consider it a negative since both PSUs have certain trade-offs as already mentioned) is the difference in efficiency as you already stated.  At around 75% load, the CX750M 80 Plus Bronze is approximately 85% efficient while the SuperNOVA 1300 G2 80 Plus Gold is around 90%.  Is the difference in efficiency relatively significant in terms of energy cost?  Let's find out.

Let's assume that an OC'd S3 requires 425WDC from a PSU:

425WDC / 85% = 500WAC (draw at the wall with a CX750M)
425WDC / 90% = 472WAC (draw at the wall with a SuperNOVA 1300 G2)
500WAC - 472WAC = 28WAC (difference in at-the-wall wattage between the two PSUs)

Therefore:

28WAC * 24 hours / 1000 = 0.672kWh (difference in kilowatt-hour in a 24-hour period at this particular OC setting)
0.672kWh * $0.15 = $0.10 (difference in energy consumption cost in a 24-hour period based on $0.15/kWh energy rate at this particular OC setting)

Of course, this would be a moot point if one has free electricity.

legendary
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Just ordered 4, Roll on shipping time!


What PSU you guys using, 450w PSU for each?

You need 4 connectors is you want to overclock, hence CX750 or 750M is the best, OR use EVGA1300 to run 2 overclocked or 3 non-overclocked.

Thanks for info, What sort of GH can be attained from Overclocking?

Up to 554 Gh, I believe, but 504GH (at 390W) is actually fully supported (they tested it).


what do you mean fully supported? you mean warranty won't go off if you OC them ?
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'

 Does the S3 have wireless capability like the S1?

no it does not but the work around is cheap and easy.
ZiG
sr. member
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Just ordered 4, Roll on shipping time!


What PSU you guys using, 450w PSU for each?

You need 4 connectors is you want to overclock, hence CX750 or 750M is the best, OR use EVGA1300 to run 2 overclocked or 3 non-overclocked.

Thanks for info, What sort of GH can be attained from Overclocking?

Up to 554 Gh, I believe, but 504GH (at 390W) is actually fully supported (they tested it).

...and they are still "testing"...since the first day of production...non-stop...until the shipping date... Grin

ZiG
legendary
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Just ordered 4, Roll on shipping time!


What PSU you guys using, 450w PSU for each?

You need 4 connectors is you want to overclock, hence CX750 or 750M is the best, OR use EVGA1300 to run 2 overclocked or 3 non-overclocked.

Thanks for info, What sort of GH can be attained from Overclocking?

Up to 554 Gh, I believe, but 504GH (at 390W) is actually fully supported (they tested it).
hero member
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Just ordered 4, Roll on shipping time!


What PSU you guys using, 450w PSU for each?

You need 4 connectors is you want to overclock, hence CX750 or 750M is the best, OR use EVGA1300 to run 2 overclocked or 3 non-overclocked.

Thanks for info, What sort of GH can be attained from Overclocking?
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 4331
Just ordered 4, Roll on shipping time!


What PSU you guys using, 450w PSU for each?

You need 4 connectors is you want to overclock, hence CX750 or 750M is the best, OR use EVGA1300 to run 2 overclocked or 3 non-overclocked.
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