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October 15, 2014, 09:14:10 AM
Outstanding. Good job, Bitmain. How a company reacts to a problem says everything. You will be rewarded by your customers for taking care of them.

Anyone have $200 coupons for a reasonable price? PM me if so.

I have one - no intention of using it.
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October 15, 2014, 09:04:10 AM
I assume you will be replacing the underpowered controller in the next batch also?
can you give us details on this ? only reason I ask, the Bitmain tech is asking me to switch boards from one of my working miners .

Ckolivas was quoted a few pages back about it:

It turns out the controller is so low powered that it can only process ~30 shares per second which mean that unless diff is set higher, they work their way into a death spiral before diff catches up. Great...

EDIT: Which presumably means that it can't be fixed by any new firmware releases - it's a hardware issue.
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October 15, 2014, 08:40:29 AM
I assume you will be replacing the underpowered controller in the next batch also?

can you give us details on this ? only reason I ask, the Bitmain tech is asking me to switch boards from one of my working miners .
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October 15, 2014, 08:35:03 AM
This is a great step of goodwill .. I will wait to cheer until I see the full execution… I do have a question about the controller ? Is the controller 100% affected ? The reason I ask is the person I'm working with wants me to take a controller from a good miner and put it in my bad miner with the power supply of a good miner… I'm continuing to jump threw Bitmain hoops so I'm very interested in the 10 days mining compensation .. I still am not to the part where they RMA me the PSU for my current broken one Sad I guess today I play musical parts with my miners per Bitmain request .
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October 15, 2014, 07:53:50 AM
And THIS is why despite the issues with hardware they had, that they continue to get my business and I use their hardware. They OWN their mistakes instead of blaming it on others and then do what they gotta do to make it right. Bravo guys. Sucks about the hardware issue, but I applaud your ownership of the issue (even tho it was not your issue entirely), and your hard work to make it right.

Power supply replacement for the Antminer S4

Dear loyal customers,
Today we have found out that the batch of power supplies shipped out in batch 1 and the first part of batch 2 Antminer S4s contain a critical defect. The customized power supply produced by AplusPower Co. Ltd is suffering from an unacceptably high failure rate and will be replaced with immediate effect.
We take full responsibility for the problems caused and had not anticipated the unique loading conditions of a miner when selecting and testing the suitability of these power supplies. You can read more about the defect in the post below.
We are now taking steps to ensure that customers are impacted as little as possible. The rest of batch 2 S4s will come with the improved power supply as standard.

The following actions are being taken for miners already delivered:
1)  If your PSU has already failed:
•   Submit a RMA request with some pictures and proof [ie with your username in the photo] of your PSU’s failure to [email protected].
•   We will then ship a new PSU out as soon as possible.
•   We will also issue compensation to the value of 10 days of mining profit calculated starting from shipping date
2) If your PSU has not failed and the miner is running normally:
•   We will ship a new PSU to you.
•   Please do not contact support yet, you will receive an email asking to confirm your shipping.
      


Analysis of power supply failures within the first batch of Antminer S4s

We are sorry for the inconvenience you may have experienced regarding power supply failures, or even sporadic events of smoke from our first batch of Antminer S4s. We immediately set out to investigate the reports of failed power supplies from customers, and have made immediate changes to improve the quality of future deliveries. What happened with these power supplies is not acceptable.



The power supplies failed by two different mechanisms:

1) Failed TR1 or TR2 MOSFETs on the power factor correction (PFC) circuitry.

After investigations, it was found that the unusual service conditions a miner puts on its power supply was the cause of the failure. The repeated abrupt, dynamic loading generated significant current through the PFC circuits, eventually leading to the failure of the TR1 or TR2 MOSFETs.

The replacement power supplies have significantly upgraded PFC circuits in order to improve performance and prevent a recurrence of the problem.


2) Failed MOSFET on the output Synchronous rectifier circuit

A MOSFET on the output Synchronous rectification circuit was also found to be failing, due to the repeated and sudden load changes during the miners’ operation.

During normal operation, the output MOSFET is expected to carry a current of approximately 30A and operate at a surface temperature of around 80C. The failing MOSFET was found to be heating up significantly further than this, causing the carbonized black PCBs and smoking thermal pad.

It is worth noting that although a failed output MOSFET at high temperatures may result in some smoke from the PCB and thermal pad, it will not start a fire. All internal components of the PSU meet the requirements of the UL94-V0 flame retardancy standard, which certifies that any ignition will self-extinguish within a maximum of 10 seconds.

In response to this problem, the sample filter in the Synchronous rectifier circuits have been altered to erase the excessive current, and so the MOSFET will not fail again. In addition, several high temperature prevention circuits have been added which will better protect the power supply from overloading and excessive temperatures.


Moving forwards

We always perform significant dynamic testing on chosen power supplies, however in this case we failed to recognize the special conditions and specific loading characteristics the miner would place on the power supply. Our testing has been altered to replicate and include these loading characteristics on any power supplies introduced in the future. Once again, we are sorry.

legendary
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October 15, 2014, 07:28:14 AM
Outstanding. Good job, Bitmain. How a company reacts to a problem says everything. You will be rewarded by your customers for taking care of them.

Anyone have $200 coupons for a reasonable price? PM me if so.
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October 15, 2014, 07:01:40 AM
Power supply replacement for the Antminer S4

Dear loyal customers,
Today we have found out that the batch of power supplies shipped out in batch 1 and the first part of batch 2 Antminer S4s contain a critical defect. The customized power supply produced by AplusPower Co. Ltd is suffering from an unacceptably high failure rate and will be replaced with immediate effect.
We take full responsibility for the problems caused and had not anticipated the unique loading conditions of a miner when selecting and testing the suitability of these power supplies. You can read more about the defect in the post below.
We are now taking steps to ensure that customers are impacted as little as possible. The rest of batch 2 S4s will come with the improved power supply as standard.

The following actions are being taken for miners already delivered:
1)  If your PSU has already failed:
•   Submit a RMA request with some pictures and proof [ie with your username in the photo] of your PSU’s failure to [email protected].
•   We will then ship a new PSU out as soon as possible.
•   We will also issue compensation to the value of 10 days of mining profit calculated starting from shipping date
2) If your PSU has not failed and the miner is running normally:
•   We will ship a new PSU to you.
•   Please do not contact support yet, you will receive an email asking to confirm your shipping.
      


Analysis of power supply failures within the first batch of Antminer S4s

We are sorry for the inconvenience you may have experienced regarding power supply failures, or even sporadic events of smoke from our first batch of Antminer S4s. We immediately set out to investigate the reports of failed power supplies from customers, and have made immediate changes to improve the quality of future deliveries. What happened with these power supplies is not acceptable.



The power supplies failed by two different mechanisms:

1) Failed TR1 or TR2 MOSFETs on the power factor correction (PFC) circuitry.

After investigations, it was found that the unusual service conditions a miner puts on its power supply was the cause of the failure. The repeated abrupt, dynamic loading generated significant current through the PFC circuits, eventually leading to the failure of the TR1 or TR2 MOSFETs.

The replacement power supplies have significantly upgraded PFC circuits in order to improve performance and prevent a recurrence of the problem.


2) Failed MOSFET on the output Synchronous rectifier circuit

A MOSFET on the output Synchronous rectification circuit was also found to be failing, due to the repeated and sudden load changes during the miners’ operation.

During normal operation, the output MOSFET is expected to carry a current of approximately 30A and operate at a surface temperature of around 80C. The failing MOSFET was found to be heating up significantly further than this, causing the carbonized black PCBs and smoking thermal pad.

It is worth noting that although a failed output MOSFET at high temperatures may result in some smoke from the PCB and thermal pad, it will not start a fire. All internal components of the PSU meet the requirements of the UL94-V0 flame retardancy standard, which certifies that any ignition will self-extinguish within a maximum of 10 seconds.

In response to this problem, the sample filter in the Synchronous rectifier circuits have been altered to erase the excessive current, and so the MOSFET will not fail again. In addition, several high temperature prevention circuits have been added which will better protect the power supply from overloading and excessive temperatures.


Moving forwards

We always perform significant dynamic testing on chosen power supplies, however in this case we failed to recognize the special conditions and specific loading characteristics the miner would place on the power supply. Our testing has been altered to replicate and include these loading characteristics on any power supplies introduced in the future. Once again, we are sorry.



My RMA has already been processed and the new PSu should be delivered today. Thank you for the quick RMA processing and standing behind your product to support your loyal customers
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October 15, 2014, 05:48:19 AM
We take full responsibility for the problems caused and had not anticipated the unique loading conditions of a miner when selecting and testing the suitability of these power supplies.
...

We are sorry for the inconvenience you may have experienced regarding power supply failures, or even sporadic events of smoke from our first batch of Antminer S4s. We immediately set out to investigate the reports of failed power supplies from customers, and have made immediate changes to improve the quality of future deliveries. What happened with these power supplies is not acceptable.



Many thanks for this. Incredible integrity. Is this problem a different one than the lower than reported hash rate?
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October 15, 2014, 05:13:57 AM
I assume you will be replacing the underpowered controller in the next batch also?
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October 15, 2014, 03:59:39 AM
2) If your PSU has not failed and the miner is running normally:
•   We will ship a new PSU to you.
•   Please do not contact support yet, you will receive an email asking to confirm your shipping.

How can we confirm if we have the defective PSU if it hasn't failed yet? And how would it work if we are buying from a reseller, do we still get the new PSU ship directly to us or the reseller gets it?

Please describe how we can tell the difference from a defective PSU S4 model, and a non defective PSU S4 model, before they get defective.
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October 15, 2014, 03:33:16 AM
you guys are really outstanding. Congratulations on excellent business behavior and customer service!
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October 15, 2014, 02:41:39 AM
Power supply replacement for the Antminer S4

Dear loyal customers,
Today we have found out that the batch of power supplies shipped out in batch 1 and the first part of batch 2 Antminer S4s contain a critical defect. The customized power supply produced by AplusPower Co. Ltd is suffering from an unacceptably high failure rate and will be replaced with immediate effect.
We take full responsibility for the problems caused and had not anticipated the unique loading conditions of a miner when selecting and testing the suitability of these power supplies. You can read more about the defect in the post below.
We are now taking steps to ensure that customers are impacted as little as possible. The rest of batch 2 S4s will come with the improved power supply as standard.

The following actions are being taken for miners already delivered:
1)  If your PSU has already failed:
•   Submit a RMA request with some pictures and proof [ie with your username in the photo] of your PSU’s failure to [email protected].
•   We will then ship a new PSU out as soon as possible.
•   We will also issue compensation to the value of 10 days of mining profit calculated starting from shipping date
2) If your PSU has not failed and the miner is running normally:
•   We will ship a new PSU to you.
•   Please do not contact support yet, you will receive an email asking to confirm your shipping.
      


Analysis of power supply failures within the first batch of Antminer S4s

We are sorry for the inconvenience you may have experienced regarding power supply failures, or even sporadic events of smoke from our first batch of Antminer S4s. We immediately set out to investigate the reports of failed power supplies from customers, and have made immediate changes to improve the quality of future deliveries. What happened with these power supplies is not acceptable.



The power supplies failed by two different mechanisms:

1) Failed TR1 or TR2 MOSFETs on the power factor correction (PFC) circuitry.

After investigations, it was found that the unusual service conditions a miner puts on its power supply was the cause of the failure. The repeated abrupt, dynamic loading generated significant current through the PFC circuits, eventually leading to the failure of the TR1 or TR2 MOSFETs.

The replacement power supplies have significantly upgraded PFC circuits in order to improve performance and prevent a recurrence of the problem.


2) Failed MOSFET on the output Synchronous rectifier circuit

A MOSFET on the output Synchronous rectification circuit was also found to be failing, due to the repeated and sudden load changes during the miners’ operation.

During normal operation, the output MOSFET is expected to carry a current of approximately 30A and operate at a surface temperature of around 80C. The failing MOSFET was found to be heating up significantly further than this, causing the carbonized black PCBs and smoking thermal pad.

It is worth noting that although a failed output MOSFET at high temperatures may result in some smoke from the PCB and thermal pad, it will not start a fire. All internal components of the PSU meet the requirements of the UL94-V0 flame retardancy standard, which certifies that any ignition will self-extinguish within a maximum of 10 seconds.

In response to this problem, the sample filter in the Synchronous rectifier circuits have been altered to erase the excessive current, and so the MOSFET will not fail again. In addition, several high temperature prevention circuits have been added which will better protect the power supply from overloading and excessive temperatures.


Moving forwards

We always perform significant dynamic testing on chosen power supplies, however in this case we failed to recognize the special conditions and specific loading characteristics the miner would place on the power supply. Our testing has been altered to replicate and include these loading characteristics on any power supplies introduced in the future. Once again, we are sorry.
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October 15, 2014, 02:29:15 AM
I'm abit confused Dogie...... Which kind of master degree you got? I'm sure as hell MBA isnt "Master of MechEng"

There is a reason i quote others that quoted you, idiot.

More entertainment from you Dogie: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ot-bs-from-friedcat-a-forgotten-promise-295358

You sure sound like an adult with Master degree there.

I've already said this is off topic 10x but he won't stop spreading lies about me, so I have to disprove them.

If you were able to read english, you would understand that I was replying to the statement "why don't you have lots of money". I was saying that those two degrees are expensive to attain. I have attained one of them so far.

Why you're randomly [and badly] bringing up 18 month old posts I have no idea. Go post in scam accusations.
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October 15, 2014, 02:13:31 AM
Can we get back on topic please and make this thread regarding the S4, if you guys want to go duke it out, create a new thread.

Back on topic, any updates on how we can tell the difference between batch 1 and batch 2 of the S4? Maybe with pictures too?
legendary
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October 15, 2014, 01:36:13 AM

Oh noes.... you fcking did not..... i would fcking crush you little piece of shit

By "investment fund", should i say ,..... " college fund" ? You think by deleting your post, many wont recall that?

You're demented and slanderous. You're calling me a scammer claiming I pulled off some securities fraud and then no one noticed? You can't find the post on bitcointa.lk for a reason, because you're either trolling or lying.

blah blah blah

Many times, you claimed to be Master Engineer....., you always started " I'm an Engineer.....blah blah,.... so you should fcking listen to me ....blah blah", while you cant even compute a simple power consumption.
Anyone can read this thread, and see what kind of person you are

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/till-now-waiting-for-3-avalons-from-batch1-avalon-is-a-scammer-and-arrant-liar-256507

All of the hero and legendary members should remember your BS posts. Lucky for you, they're no longer active and this section is full of noobs.


I have a masters in mechanical engineering, yes. What you've quoted was when I suggested that a guy with 4 batch 1 Avalon user who made $100,000s shouldn't be so up in arms that another of his batch 1s was delayed.

Everything else that you've quoted from someone else [and not me...] is rubbish.
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October 15, 2014, 01:26:47 AM
Why is everyone so offensive to Dogie? :/ Think he does a good job
 He used to be a an arrogant mouthpiece, so it's likely he takes flack from his past dealings.  He's been trying really hard to chane that and help people out so I cut him some slack.  Others, not so much.

Yes, anyone here long enough to recall Dogie's investment scam? LOL i bet the fcker delete that post now.

How are your multiple successful businesses Dogie?

To you specifically, what on EARTH are you talking about? Search via google on bitcointa.lk, either you're hard trolling or mistaking me for someone totally different.

To everyone else: [Can we move this conversation to one of my threads, not the Bitmain one please: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-dogies-comprehensive-manufacturer-trustworthiness-guide-1st-feb-2016-456691]

Oh noes.... you fcking did not..... i would fcking crush you little piece of shit

By "investment fund", should i say ,..... " college fund" ? You think by deleting your post, many wont recall that?

Look, ignore the troll. Dogie claimed to have made a million when he was thirteen in another thread, now he has a signature begging for donations for a 'college fund'. In reality he has a batch one or two Avalon that got delivered on time and has bought and sold ASICminer blades that he mined for a bit. It's also worth pointing out that a 'dogie' is a motherless calf (cow), and not a puppy, which would be spelt; 'doggie'...

Fact is you make an order at a particular date in which a buyer and a seller agree at a fair market price of a specified item at that time (which was before the major rise in BTC value), both are content with the deal. The seller now has responsibility in ensuring every aspect if that deal completes smoothly and in it's entirety. This has not been done. It has also not been done with in a significant time period resulting in a huge detriment to the products life cycle and overall reward.

The seller is clearly at fault and has not fulfilled his obligation to deliver an agreed volume of said products within a reasonable timeframe.

The buyer has every reason to vent their frustration and negativity towards the seller responsible.

The fact BTC value has changed within this timeframe is irrelevant to the sale and delivery of the item on the sellers side, though understandably for the buyer it is massively important. This has nothing to do withe greed as the buyer could not possibly predict the future actions of the European Central Bank in forcefully demanding the Cypriot government steal from it's residents and the ensuing media would have on Bitcoin exposure and subsequent BTC value.

Many times, you claimed to be Master Engineer....., you always started " I'm an Engineer.....blah blah,.... so you should fcking listen to me ....blah blah", while you cant even compute a simple power consumption.
Anyone can read this thread, and see what kind of person you are

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/till-now-waiting-for-3-avalons-from-batch1-avalon-is-a-scammer-and-arrant-liar-256507

Some of your golden shit :


RAIN THE HATORADE ITS DELICIOUS.

If I ordered 5 (which I didn't, I ordered 4), received 3 and they turned out to be worth $300000 each (proportionate), of course I wouldn't be calling them lying scum! I'd be stfu'ing and enjoying my money.

Greeds got to greet.

In the future, remind me to do business with you.


RAIN THE HATORADE ITS DELICIOUS.

If I ordered 5 (which I didn't, I ordered 4), received 3 and they turned out to be worth $300000 each (proportionate), of course I wouldn't be calling them lying scum! I'd be stfu'ing and enjoying my money.

Greeds got to greet.

In the future, remind me to do business with you.

You can do exactly what you want, I'm allowed to have an opinion as are you.


You can do exactly what you want, I'm allowed to have an opinion as are you.

In our future business dealings, I'll be taking your money and then saying "fuck that shit" to holding up my end of the agreement.  You best not complain because that would just be your greed showing through.

ZING


All of the hero and legendary members should remember your BS posts. Lucky for you, they're no longer active and this section is full of noobs.

 
legendary
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October 14, 2014, 10:52:33 PM
These S4 miners are horrible. I am having nothing but issues.   The pool is showing half the speed of what the gui is showing.  I updated to the latest bitmain firmware and that didn't help.  Any suggestions.  Thanks. 

What pool and what difficulty are you using?

BAN and its variable diff.

Its a problem while we're waiting for a firmware fix / hack. For now, put it onto BTCGuild / Ghash / Slush's and set difficulty manually to 2048.
sr. member
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October 14, 2014, 09:29:52 PM
These S4 miners are horrible. I am having nothing but issues.   The pool is showing half the speed of what the gui is showing.  I updated to the latest bitmain firmware and that didn't help.  Any suggestions.  Thanks. 

What pool and what difficulty are you using?

BAN and its variable diff.
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
October 14, 2014, 09:22:34 PM
These S4 miners are horrible. I am having nothing but issues.   The pool is showing half the speed of what the gui is showing.  I updated to the latest bitmain firmware and that didn't help.  Any suggestions.  Thanks. 

What pool and what difficulty are you using?
sr. member
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October 14, 2014, 08:43:45 PM
These S4 miners are horrible. I am having nothing but issues.   The pool is showing half the speed of what the gui is showing.  I updated to the latest bitmain firmware and that didn't help.  Any suggestions.  Thanks. 
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