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December 13, 2014, 12:11:47 AM
Does anyone here run their S4's on 240 volts? What setting do you use on the chip? 0375?

You mean 0735? Probably a bit too high unless you're overclocking heavily. Keep in mind that the PSU is barely sufficient for stock speeds.

I used 0720 with 200 MHz (stock 2 TH/s) and 0725 with 225 MHz (~2.25 TH/s)
No I am talking about 240 volts input. Much more efficient than 120 volts. the chips surely must be undervolted using 240.

Er.. no.. chip voltage is the same regardless of input. You just pull less amps with 220/240. I'm in Singapore and we're using 220/240 and chips v are the same.
Thats exactly what I needed to know. Thanks for the info. We are wiring the server room at 208-240 volts. This is not for massive overclocking, just more efficient power usage= lower costs.
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December 12, 2014, 10:04:17 PM
Does anyone here run their S4's on 240 volts? What setting do you use on the chip? 0375?

You mean 0735? Probably a bit too high unless you're overclocking heavily. Keep in mind that the PSU is barely sufficient for stock speeds.

I used 0720 with 200 MHz (stock 2 TH/s) and 0725 with 225 MHz (~2.25 TH/s)
No I am talking about 240 volts input. Much more efficient than 120 volts. the chips surely must be undervolted using 240.

Er.. no.. chip voltage is the same regardless of input. You just pull less amps with 220/240. I'm in Singapore and we're using 220/240 and chips v are the same.
Both sorta right. Vcore stays the same regardless of line input as it is set inside the miners.
Generally yes the overall efficiency may go up 1-2 percent depending on the actual PSU design but that's all. But.. the higher line *in theory* will allow you to pull more from the PSU so you have a bit more power available for OC/OV.

Main limiting factor in PSU's and their final ratings is how much current the input stage can handle. To put out rated power @100-125v the input stage has to be able to handle x amount of current. Raise the line to 200-240 and current is cut in half. Input stage loves that, now the limiting factor becomes the rest of the PSU circuitry.


Bottom line, unless a PSU is specifically marked and rated for different power vs line rating (Like the HP CS server PSU's) DO NOT assume you can safely sustain higher power out by using a high line in.

For new or upgraded installations using 208-220v is the only way to go. Wire sizes are smaller for x-amount of power per plug and costs for plugs is lower because you can use fewer of them vs 110v. Also I've found that dual rated supplies when ran off of 220v handle powerline dips better to keep miners alive. The Universal input function give a bit more reserve time for the line to come back up.
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December 12, 2014, 07:31:38 PM
Does anyone here run their S4's on 240 volts? What setting do you use on the chip? 0375?

You mean 0735? Probably a bit too high unless you're overclocking heavily. Keep in mind that the PSU is barely sufficient for stock speeds.

I used 0720 with 200 MHz (stock 2 TH/s) and 0725 with 225 MHz (~2.25 TH/s)
No I am talking about 240 volts input. Much more efficient than 120 volts. the chips surely must be undervolted using 240.

Er.. no.. chip voltage is the same regardless of input. You just pull less amps with 220/240. I'm in Singapore and we're using 220/240 and chips v are the same.
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December 12, 2014, 07:27:53 PM
Does anyone here run their S4's on 240 volts? What setting do you use on the chip? 0375?

You mean 0735? Probably a bit too high unless you're overclocking heavily. Keep in mind that the PSU is barely sufficient for stock speeds.

I used 0720 with 200 MHz (stock 2 TH/s) and 0725 with 225 MHz (~2.25 TH/s)
No I am talking about 240 volts input. Much more efficient than 120 volts. the chips surely must be undervolted using 240.
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December 12, 2014, 07:10:07 PM
Does anyone here run their S4's on 240 volts? What setting do you use on the chip? 0375?

You mean 0735? Probably a bit too high unless you're overclocking heavily. Keep in mind that the PSU is barely sufficient for stock speeds.

I used 0720 with 200 MHz (stock 2 TH/s) and 0725 with 225 MHz (~2.25 TH/s)
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December 12, 2014, 07:00:08 PM
Does anyone here run their S4's on 240 volts? What setting do you use on the chip? 0375?
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December 12, 2014, 06:36:23 PM
Mining isn't my thing but judging by the stack of S3+ and S4 units that a friend has asked me to sell for him I assumed that the S5 was not too far off...
Most likely your mate wants to sell because profit is not worth the noises after cost of electricity at current BTC price. I'm using my S1s, S3s and S4 as space heaters and make little profit. My flat is so hot that I have to keep my windows open.
Either your electric cost per kwh is high or your pool is not paying enough because I am making profit using S3's and S4's. $.12 a kwh electric and Slush pool. Winning combination.
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December 12, 2014, 06:34:07 PM
Depends on electricity cost.Here S1 are not profitable unless underclocked.
S3 barely profitalble Dont have S4 to say...
Bitmain is offering the top models in high prices lately that will never ROI with this BTC price
So the s5 will not be an exception to this I guess
Currently my equimpent is 50% is Spondoolies 40% Bitmain and 10% KNC
thinking of dumping the KNC soon and get more SP
Nothing Spoondoolies makes or sells will make more BTC per dollar spent than a Bitmain S3 or S4. No way Jose. We are setting up a large mining farm and it will all be Bitmain products.
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December 12, 2014, 12:37:18 PM
Depends on electricity cost.Here S1 are not profitable unless underclocked.
S3 barely profitalble Dont have S4 to say...
Bitmain is offering the top models in high prices lately that will never ROI with this BTC price
So the s5 will not be an exception to this I guess
Currently my equimpent is 50% is Spondoolies 40% Bitmain and 10% KNC
thinking of dumping the KNC soon and get more SP
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December 12, 2014, 12:24:33 PM
Mining isn't my thing but judging by the stack of S3+ and S4 units that a friend has asked me to sell for him I assumed that the S5 was not too far off...
Most likely your mate wants to sell because profit is not worth the noises after cost of electricity at current BTC price. I'm using my S1s, S3s and S4 as space heaters and make little profit. My flat is so hot that I have to keep my windows open.
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December 12, 2014, 11:58:49 AM
Hey guys can anyone post the CE certificate for  s4. Thanks

Where are you seeing a CE mark?
At least in the S4 product description:
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* Certificate Compliance: FCC/CE

Without CE mark they would not have been allowed to be imported into Europe (although I do not have a S4 to check this right now)

CE also = China Export. All the CE marks on S3 and S4 are China Export.

://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking

I can link to wikipedia to?
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December 12, 2014, 11:27:40 AM
Hey guys can anyone post the CE certificate for  s4. Thanks

Where are you seeing a CE mark?
At least in the S4 product description:
Quote
* Certificate Compliance: FCC/CE

Without CE mark they would not have been allowed to be imported into Europe (although I do not have a S4 to check this right now)

CE also = China Export. All the CE marks on S3 and S4 are China Export.

://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking
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December 12, 2014, 10:51:44 AM
Mining isn't my thing but judging by the stack of S3+ and S4 units that a friend has asked me to sell for him I assumed that the S5 was not too far off...
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December 12, 2014, 10:46:49 AM
Hey guys can anyone post the CE certificate for  s4. Thanks

Where are you seeing a CE mark?
I have S4 and there is not CE mark anywhere. It might be inside but am not going to open the case. I only see QC1 passed and QC 2 passed stickers.

Speaking of unicorns, I heard that S5 is going to hash 6 Th/s and only uses 950 watts. Also, with innovation in cooling system, noise level is less than 65 decibel.  Grin

I'll believe it when I see it … Would be nice if it was a rack mount unit as well .. Any S5 news would be welcome to my ears at this point …
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December 12, 2014, 10:04:18 AM
Hey guys can anyone post the CE certificate for  s4. Thanks

Where are you seeing a CE mark?
I have S4 and there is not CE mark anywhere. It might be inside but am not going to open the case. I only see QC1 passed and QC 2 passed stickers.

Speaking of unicorns, I heard that S5 is going to hash 6 Th/s and only uses 950 watts. Also, with innovation in cooling system, noise level is less than 65 decibel.  Grin
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
December 12, 2014, 09:53:02 AM
Hey guys can anyone post the CE certificate for  s4. Thanks

Where are you seeing a CE mark?
At least in the S4 product description:
Quote
* Certificate Compliance: FCC/CE

Without CE mark they would not have been allowed to be imported into Europe (although I do not have a S4 to check this right now)

CE also = China Export. All the CE marks on S3 and S4 are China Export.
legendary
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December 12, 2014, 08:06:51 AM
I have the CE documents but i dont want to post it here.

If somebody need them please PM me.
legendary
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December 12, 2014, 07:50:47 AM
Hey guys can anyone post the CE certificate for  s4. Thanks

Where are you seeing a CE mark?
At least in the S4 product description:
Quote
* Certificate Compliance: FCC/CE

Without CE mark they would not have been allowed to be imported into Europe (although I do not have a S4 to check this right now)
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
December 12, 2014, 07:48:46 AM
Hey guys can anyone post the CE certificate for  s4. Thanks

Where are you seeing a CE mark?
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
December 12, 2014, 07:44:34 AM
Ok so Bitmain has stopped single sales of S4's , only pallets of 16 left. And the current coupons expire on the 15th.  Maybe they are going to start sales of the S5 on Monday? 1Th  $375-400 750PSU needed is my guess. Any takers?

Single B2 sales of S4 available on Bitmain site again. Could they be dumping remaining S4 stock for S5 release since FC announced their new chip today?

Still likely 50 days away from chips in hand and longer for miners. Its a bit premature to post that stage of chip testing, unless he went on the chip orders without seeing test results which is really unlikely.

my guess is the S5 will be just a lot more chips jammed into the S3 size, such that they run around 600Gh/400W, at basically the same price as the S3+ right now. Its unlikely they will have a next-gen chip for some time, probably similar timeframe (jan/feb) as both spondoolies and asicminer

Unicorns all round! Nothing has been announced about S5 chips, ST has said nothing about next gen past "it'll be good" a month or so ago and ASICMiner is still likely months and months out.
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