ANTMINER S4 Discussion and Support Thread - page 69.

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Quote from: Tupsu on December 10, 2014, 01:18:37 PM

Quote from: etile on December 10, 2014, 11:58:53 AM

custom blocks at random when do spot check with probabilty 0.2
Yes, Bitmain don't have official permission to sell miners to my country ( as custom says)

But why I need to pay 320*16=5120$ for reshipping with probablity 0.2 for option called "FREE INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING"?

What country that is ?

Definitely not a EU country.

Russia

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Quote from: etile on December 10, 2014, 11:58:53 AM

custom blocks at random when do spot check with probabilty 0.2
Yes, Bitmain don't have official permission to sell miners to my country ( as custom says)

But why I need to pay 320*16=5120$ for reshipping with probablity 0.2 for option called "FREE INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING"?

What country that is ?

Definitely not a EU country.

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Quote from: suchmoon on December 10, 2014, 12:30:30 PM

Quote from: etile on December 10, 2014, 11:58:53 AM

custom blocks at random when do spot check with probabilty 0.2
Yes, Bitmain don't have official permission to sell miners to my country ( as custom says)

But why I need to pay 320*16=5120$ for reshipping with probablity 0.2 for option called "FREE INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING"?

So what you're saying is that Bitmain or some other vendor should pay for your 5:1 gamble with customs? That doesn't sound right at all. You gamble, you pay, as another customer I'm not interested in subsidizing that.

No, I want that Bitmain rename "Free Shipping" slogan to something like "Shipping Included".

Some people like me will not buy "Shipping Included", but will buy with "Free Shipping" option

"Free Shipping" means that Bitmain want gamble with all delivery risks.
Bitmain can, because he know some delivery statistics that customers never will have.

"Free Shipping" means that cost of shipping or reshipping for me (not for Bitmain) is zero.

Now Bitmain sends miners with "Free Shipping" and after returning package he ask customers cost of reshipping with unknow value.
Cost of reshipping can be 80% percentage of miner cost. This is very bad situation.

In any case customers should know price of reshipping for "FREE SHIPPING" option before they buy.

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Quote from: etile on December 10, 2014, 11:58:53 AM

custom blocks at random when do spot check with probabilty 0.2
Yes, Bitmain don't have official permission to sell miners to my country ( as custom says)

But why I need to pay 320*16=5120$ for reshipping with probablity 0.2 for option called "FREE INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING"?

So what you're saying is that Bitmain or some other vendor should pay for your 5:1 gamble with customs? That doesn't sound right at all. You gamble, you pay, as another customer I'm not interested in subsidizing that.

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Quote from: dogie on December 10, 2014, 11:26:21 AM

Quote from: etile on December 10, 2014, 09:09:44 AM

Quote from: dogie on December 09, 2014, 10:06:05 AM

Quote from: etile on December 09, 2014, 09:23:34 AM

Quote from: dogie on December 09, 2014, 09:16:19 AM

Quote from: etile on December 09, 2014, 09:11:59 AM

Bitmain do not offer FREE Shipping.

IF miner will be returned to Bitmain customer not receive refund.
Bitmain ask customer to pay for shipping cost.

This is NOT "FREE" Shipping.

Its free shipping on the black friday S4 pack.

No, free shipping means that cost of shipping for customer is zero.

But Bitmain can ask customer for shipping cost compensation.
This option should not be called "free shipping".

"Shipping included" may be.

... you pay for shipping either way, Santa Claus doesn't deliver miners.

No, incorrect.

the diffrence between buying miners on bitmaintech.com "free shipping" and aliexpress.com "free shipping" in that if the miners returns to sender due to some delivery problems (like customs) I do not pay for "free shipping" on aliexpress and pay on bitmain

So every miner cost 500$ + 320$ shipping cost that I have to pay if customs make spot check.

They're fulfilling their obligation to send the goods, its up to you to know if customs would block your products (if they're not allowed in your country).

custom blocks at random when do spot check with probabilty 0.2
Yes, Bitmain don't have official permission to sell miners to my country ( as custom says)

But why I need to pay 320*16=5120$ for reshipping with probablity 0.2 for option called "FREE INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING"?

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Quote from: etile on December 10, 2014, 09:09:44 AM

Quote from: dogie on December 09, 2014, 10:06:05 AM

Quote from: etile on December 09, 2014, 09:23:34 AM

Quote from: dogie on December 09, 2014, 09:16:19 AM

Quote from: etile on December 09, 2014, 09:11:59 AM

Bitmain do not offer FREE Shipping.

IF miner will be returned to Bitmain customer not receive refund.
Bitmain ask customer to pay for shipping cost.

This is NOT "FREE" Shipping.

Its free shipping on the black friday S4 pack.

No, free shipping means that cost of shipping for customer is zero.

But Bitmain can ask customer for shipping cost compensation.
This option should not be called "free shipping".

"Shipping included" may be.

... you pay for shipping either way, Santa Claus doesn't deliver miners.

No, incorrect.

the diffrence between buying miners on bitmaintech.com "free shipping" and aliexpress.com "free shipping" in that if the miners returns to sender due to some delivery problems (like customs) I do not pay for "free shipping" on aliexpress and pay on bitmain

So every miner cost 500$ + 320$ shipping cost that I have to pay if customs make spot check.

I looked at the aliexpress website. I could only wish I could get those prices for my machines. For us non-VAT folks, there's no comparison.

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Quote from: dogie on December 10, 2014, 11:26:38 AM

Quote from: Biodom on December 09, 2014, 10:29:07 PM

Quote from: dmwardjr on December 09, 2014, 10:18:55 PM

I KNOW THIS IS AN S4 THREAD. However, not much going on at the S3 thread. So, I'm bringing this question over here:

Has anyone bought an S3 lately and noticed in "miner status" that you have four (4) fans listed when in fact your S3 only has two (2) fans?

Look at mine:

>clip image<

Also, my S3 will allow me to adjust the voltage like an S4 does. My S3 will not RESET properly either. So, I was wondering if BITMAIN installed S4 software on my S3?

Has anyone else noticed this on a new S3 they have purchased?

He he, 4 fans-a first glimpse of S5 (flat or double decker)? Grin

Predictions: 3 times more chips (underclocked), 2-2.5 times higher GH (hopefully, 1TH), 0.6w/Gh with voltage control for further underclocking to 0.4w/Gh

You forgot the unicorns. Many GH of unicorns.

unicorns are optional, but whatever parameters I stated better be there or it is NOT going to sell.

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Quote from: Biodom on December 09, 2014, 10:29:07 PM

Quote from: dmwardjr on December 09, 2014, 10:18:55 PM

I KNOW THIS IS AN S4 THREAD. However, not much going on at the S3 thread. So, I'm bringing this question over here:

Has anyone bought an S3 lately and noticed in "miner status" that you have four (4) fans listed when in fact your S3 only has two (2) fans?

Look at mine:

>clip image<

Also, my S3 will allow me to adjust the voltage like an S4 does. My S3 will not RESET properly either. So, I was wondering if BITMAIN installed S4 software on my S3?

Has anyone else noticed this on a new S3 they have purchased?

He he, 4 fans-a first glimpse of S5 (flat or double decker)? Grin

Predictions: 3 times more chips (underclocked), 2-2.5 times higher GH (hopefully, 1TH), 0.6w/Gh with voltage control for further underclocking to 0.4w/Gh

You forgot the unicorns. Many GH of unicorns.

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Quote from: etile on December 10, 2014, 09:09:44 AM

Quote from: dogie on December 09, 2014, 10:06:05 AM

Quote from: etile on December 09, 2014, 09:23:34 AM

Quote from: dogie on December 09, 2014, 09:16:19 AM

Quote from: etile on December 09, 2014, 09:11:59 AM

Bitmain do not offer FREE Shipping.

IF miner will be returned to Bitmain customer not receive refund.
Bitmain ask customer to pay for shipping cost.

This is NOT "FREE" Shipping.

Its free shipping on the black friday S4 pack.

No, free shipping means that cost of shipping for customer is zero.

But Bitmain can ask customer for shipping cost compensation.
This option should not be called "free shipping".

"Shipping included" may be.

... you pay for shipping either way, Santa Claus doesn't deliver miners.

No, incorrect.

the diffrence between buying miners on bitmaintech.com "free shipping" and aliexpress.com "free shipping" in that if the miners returns to sender due to some delivery problems (like customs) I do not pay for "free shipping" on aliexpress and pay on bitmain

So every miner cost 500$ + 320$ shipping cost that I have to pay if customs make spot check.

They're fulfilling their obligation to send the goods, its up to you to know if customs would block your products (if they're not allowed in your country).

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Quote from: Nightshiftgirl on December 09, 2014, 11:24:58 PM

Quote from: dlowings on December 09, 2014, 10:02:02 PM

Quote from: Nightshiftgirl on December 09, 2014, 03:24:29 PM

Just a note,

I under clocked S4, running 0650 and 125 pulling 690 at the wall hashing 1195 avg . All is well, Sound much lower. Of course the C1 is much quieter than either the S3 or the S4.

Also I am having trouble with the Ethernet connection on the S4, sometimes when I reboot it comes up with 127.0.0.1. But is showing not lights on the connector. A wiggle or two will get it going along with a reboot.. If I bump the cable while it is running it will start beeping and quit mining. Again wiggle it. I have not had time to look into it further, but that is a problem going forward

Barbara

Help me understand why you would under clock the S4 this soon. By not at least hitting the 2THs you're making it extremely hard to ever make ROI. I was also thinking about under clocking my 4 units but I think I still need 2 to three more months to get to my break even, at that point I will down shift.

Am I missing something ?

You did not miss anything, I did it because I live in a fairly small apartment, and the noise from the S4 was just too much. Fans were running at 3800 + could not carry on a conversation. Now the fans are running at 2880 all the time which is livable. I also have a S3+ and a C1 all new last month. I do not even look at ROI, I just set aside X dollars to play with and this is what it is this time. I like tech and being retired I have time to play. I have built Hi end computers in the past just to set speed records. So don't listen to me. This will actually pay me back better than the money I spent on building computers.

Enjoy what you do or don't do it is my motto

Now do I add 3 more C1s with the four way cooler? The C1 is very quiet.

Barbara

Barbara

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One thing to consider is that when she underclocks at these settings she is GAINING a 10% increase in efficiency compared to electricity usage. Over a long period of time this will pay off, like many months. I have tried and tested this.

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Quote from: dogie on December 09, 2014, 10:06:05 AM

Quote from: etile on December 09, 2014, 09:23:34 AM

Quote from: dogie on December 09, 2014, 09:16:19 AM

Quote from: etile on December 09, 2014, 09:11:59 AM

Bitmain do not offer FREE Shipping.

IF miner will be returned to Bitmain customer not receive refund.
Bitmain ask customer to pay for shipping cost.

This is NOT "FREE" Shipping.

Its free shipping on the black friday S4 pack.

No, free shipping means that cost of shipping for customer is zero.

But Bitmain can ask customer for shipping cost compensation.
This option should not be called "free shipping".

"Shipping included" may be.

... you pay for shipping either way, Santa Claus doesn't deliver miners.

No, incorrect.

the diffrence between buying miners on bitmaintech.com "free shipping" and aliexpress.com "free shipping" in that if the miners returns to sender due to some delivery problems (like customs) I do not pay for "free shipping" on aliexpress and pay on bitmain

So every miner cost 500$ + 320$ shipping cost that I have to pay if customs make spot check.

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Quote from: sEpuLchEr on December 04, 2014, 01:32:06 PM

Quote from: ZymurBits on December 04, 2014, 01:24:22 PM

So what are your settings? Mine came 200 @ 0725. Manual shows 200 @ 0720. Only averaging 1950GH/s. I'd like more but don't want instability issues.

0726v 231.25mhz

Edit: I'm on 220/240v so amp draw is lower. I cannot be responsible if your psu blows up in your face.

2nd Edit: Incase someone calls bull.. http://prntscr.com/5d79fs

well done

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Quote from: Nightshiftgirl on December 09, 2014, 11:26:54 PM

Quote from: dmwardjr on December 09, 2014, 10:31:38 PM

Quote from: Biodom on December 09, 2014, 10:29:07 PM

Quote from: dmwardjr on December 09, 2014, 10:18:55 PM

I KNOW THIS IS AN S4 THREAD. However, not much going on at the S3 thread. So, I'm bringing this question over here:

Has anyone bought an S3 lately and noticed in "miner status" that you have four (4) fans listed when in fact your S3 only has two (2) fans?

Look at mine:

>clip image<

Also, my S3 will allow me to adjust the voltage like an S4 does. My S3 will not RESET properly either. So, I was wondering if BITMAIN installed S4 software on my S3?

Has anyone else noticed this on a new S3 they have purchased?

He he, 4 fans-a first glimpse of S5 (flat or double decker)? Grin

Predictions: 3 times more chips (underclocked), 2-2.5 times higher GH (hopefully, 1TH), 0.6w/Gh with voltage control for further underclocking to 0.4w/Gh

It still makes no sense to display 4 fans on my S3 that has only 2 fans. I'm having problems still with one board shutting down after a few minutes. So, I switched to two PCI-e ports I haven't used for any length of time except to see if they would work. Let's see how long the board stays up now. I got two new S3's along with four (4) new S4's Wednesday, last week. Had them not even a week and I'm starting to have problems with a PCI-e port on an S3 I believe. Neither S3 will reset properly! And they appear to have the wrong software installed on them; meaning S4 software for four (4) fans that can also adjust the voltage.

My C1 display shows 4 fans and a C1 has only 1 fan.

Barbara

Thanks for the reply, Barbara!

That means they did not install the wrong software... more than likely!

I appreciate you responding, ma'am!

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Quote from: dmwardjr on December 09, 2014, 10:31:38 PM

Quote from: Biodom on December 09, 2014, 10:29:07 PM

Quote from: dmwardjr on December 09, 2014, 10:18:55 PM

I KNOW THIS IS AN S4 THREAD. However, not much going on at the S3 thread. So, I'm bringing this question over here:

Has anyone bought an S3 lately and noticed in "miner status" that you have four (4) fans listed when in fact your S3 only has two (2) fans?

Look at mine:

>clip image<

Also, my S3 will allow me to adjust the voltage like an S4 does. My S3 will not RESET properly either. So, I was wondering if BITMAIN installed S4 software on my S3?

Has anyone else noticed this on a new S3 they have purchased?

He he, 4 fans-a first glimpse of S5 (flat or double decker)? Grin

Predictions: 3 times more chips (underclocked), 2-2.5 times higher GH (hopefully, 1TH), 0.6w/Gh with voltage control for further underclocking to 0.4w/Gh

It still makes no sense to display 4 fans on my S3 that has only 2 fans. I'm having problems still with one board shutting down after a few minutes. So, I switched to two PCI-e ports I haven't used for any length of time except to see if they would work. Let's see how long the board stays up now. I got two new S3's along with four (4) new S4's Wednesday, last week. Had them not even a week and I'm starting to have problems with a PCI-e port on an S3 I believe. Neither S3 will reset properly! And they appear to have the wrong software installed on them; meaning S4 software for four (4) fans that can also adjust the voltage.

My C1 display shows 4 fans and a C1 has only 1 fan.

Barbara

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Quote from: dlowings on December 09, 2014, 10:02:02 PM

Quote from: Nightshiftgirl on December 09, 2014, 03:24:29 PM

Just a note,

I under clocked S4, running 0650 and 125 pulling 690 at the wall hashing 1195 avg . All is well, Sound much lower. Of course the C1 is much quieter than either the S3 or the S4.

Also I am having trouble with the Ethernet connection on the S4, sometimes when I reboot it comes up with 127.0.0.1. But is showing not lights on the connector. A wiggle or two will get it going along with a reboot.. If I bump the cable while it is running it will start beeping and quit mining. Again wiggle it. I have not had time to look into it further, but that is a problem going forward

Barbara

Help me understand why you would under clock the S4 this soon. By not at least hitting the 2THs you're making it extremely hard to ever make ROI. I was also thinking about under clocking my 4 units but I think I still need 2 to three more months to get to my break even, at that point I will down shift.

Am I missing something ?

You did not miss anything, I did it because I live in a fairly small apartment, and the noise from the S4 was just too much. Fans were running at 3800 + could not carry on a conversation. Now the fans are running at 2880 all the time which is livable. I also have a S3+ and a C1 all new last month. I do not even look at ROI, I just set aside X dollars to play with and this is what it is this time. I like tech and being retired I have time to play. I have built Hi end computers in the past just to set speed records. So don't listen to me. This will actually pay me back better than the money I spent on building computers.

Enjoy what you do or don't do it is my motto

Now do I add 3 more C1s with the four way cooler? The C1 is very quiet.

Barbara

Barbara

Barbara

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Quote from: Biodom on December 09, 2014, 10:29:07 PM

Quote from: dmwardjr on December 09, 2014, 10:18:55 PM

I KNOW THIS IS AN S4 THREAD. However, not much going on at the S3 thread. So, I'm bringing this question over here:

Has anyone bought an S3 lately and noticed in "miner status" that you have four (4) fans listed when in fact your S3 only has two (2) fans?

Look at mine:

>clip image<

Also, my S3 will allow me to adjust the voltage like an S4 does. My S3 will not RESET properly either. So, I was wondering if BITMAIN installed S4 software on my S3?

Has anyone else noticed this on a new S3 they have purchased?

He he, 4 fans-a first glimpse of S5 (flat or double decker)? Grin

Predictions: 3 times more chips (underclocked), 2-2.5 times higher GH (hopefully, 1TH), 0.6w/Gh with voltage control for further underclocking to 0.4w/Gh

It still makes no sense to display 4 fans on my S3 that has only 2 fans. I'm having problems still with one board shutting down after a few minutes. So, I switched to two PCI-e ports I haven't used for any length of time except to see if they would work. Let's see how long the board stays up now. I got two new S3's along with four (4) new S4's Wednesday, last week. Had them not even a week and I'm starting to have problems with a PCI-e port on an S3 I believe. Neither S3 will reset properly! And they appear to have the wrong software installed on them; meaning S4 software for four (4) fans that can also adjust the voltage.

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Quote from: dmwardjr on December 09, 2014, 10:18:55 PM

I KNOW THIS IS AN S4 THREAD. However, not much going on at the S3 thread. So, I'm bringing this question over here:

Has anyone bought an S3 lately and noticed in "miner status" that you have four (4) fans listed when in fact your S3 only has two (2) fans?

Look at mine:

>clip image<

Also, my S3 will allow me to adjust the voltage like an S4 does. My S3 will not RESET properly either. So, I was wondering if BITMAIN installed S4 software on my S3?

Has anyone else noticed this on a new S3 they have purchased?

He he, 4 fans-a first glimpse of S5 (flat or double decker)? Grin

Predictions: 3 times more chips (underclocked), 2-2.5 times higher GH (hopefully, 1TH), 0.6w/Gh with voltage control for further underclocking to 0.4w/Gh

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I KNOW THIS IS AN S4 THREAD. However, not much going on at the S3 thread. So, I'm bringing this question over here:

Has anyone bought an S3 lately and noticed in "miner status" that you have four (4) fans listed when in fact your S3 only has two (2) fans?

If you wish to say I'm logged into an S4, then I have more serious troubles. Cause it would mean I have two boards out and I have two fans out.

Look at mine:

Also, my S3 will allow me to adjust the voltage like an S4 does. My S3 will not RESET properly either. So, I was wondering if BITMAIN installed S4 software on my S3?

Has anyone else noticed this on a new S3 they have purchased?

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Quote from: Nightshiftgirl on December 09, 2014, 03:24:29 PM

Just a note,

I under clocked S4, running 0650 and 125 pulling 690 at the wall hashing 1195 avg . All is well, Sound much lower. Of course the C1 is much quieter than either the S3 or the S4.

Also I am having trouble with the Ethernet connection on the S4, sometimes when I reboot it comes up with 127.0.0.1. But is showing not lights on the connector. A wiggle or two will get it going along with a reboot.. If I bump the cable while it is running it will start beeping and quit mining. Again wiggle it. I have not had time to look into it further, but that is a problem going forward

Barbara

Help me understand why you would under clock the S4 this soon. By not at least hitting the 2THs you're making it extremely hard to ever make ROI. I was also thinking about under clocking my 4 units but I think I still need 2 to three more months to get to my break even, at that point I will down shift.

Am I missing something ?

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Smile while thinking.

Hey there, does anyone know when the Black Friday Deal on the S4 (16 S4 pack) ends?

Thanks!

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