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Quote from: sidehack on February 07, 2015, 10:00:53 AM

As for S6, I'd like to see them make blades that slide into S2 chassis. They specifically said they wouldn't make BM1382 boards for the S2 because it was still profitable, but that's getting pretty tight these days and within a few months probably all of them will be turned off. With a string miner it'll take a bit of finagling to get the power draw right for the internal PSU, but I'd really like to see an efficient DC-DC converter over top of the string with software-controlled voltage output so the user can custom under/overvolt. That opens up a lot of options both for the manufactured stock configuration and user-defined operating points.

+1 I still have a bunch of S2s that I had hopes of upgrading. The upgrade path was the only reason I bought them.

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I bet if you run an S5 on about 16V and keep it immersed about a -25C tank you could get 2TH out of it. For a while. Before the chips start breaking down internally.

As for S6, I'd like to see them make blades that slide into S2 chassis. They specifically said they wouldn't make BM1382 boards for the S2 because it was still profitable, but that's getting pretty tight these days and within a few months probably all of them will be turned off. With a string miner it'll take a bit of finagling to get the power draw right for the internal PSU, but I'd really like to see an efficient DC-DC converter over top of the string with software-controlled voltage output so the user can custom under/overvolt. That opens up a lot of options both for the manufactured stock configuration and user-defined operating points.

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Quote from: Rabinovitch on February 06, 2015, 01:44:54 PM

There is a roumor that S5 can do up to 2 Th... Why do we need next AntMiner in this case?

at stock is running at 50+C how the hell will it reach 2th!

Quote from: notlist3d on February 06, 2015, 09:07:29 PM

With BTC so low I don't see them rushing it. I think it will be a little while.

they are rushing it for sure! not on the market but in their own farms Cheesy

and it depends a lot on the rest of manufacturers: AM, SPTECH, etc. if one is coming with something new and powerful to the market, bitmain will not want to loose a piece of it's own pie...

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if and when the s6 comes out it will probably be 4-5th at around 1k to 1.5k cost. When will it come out? good question but my guess is a little before summer or early summer

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Quote from: Shazam!!! on February 06, 2015, 07:14:17 PM

It would be nice if it was sooner than later....S6 would/could/should be interesting.

With BTC so low I don't see them rushing it. I think it will be a little while.

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It would be nice if it was sooner than later....S6 would/could/should be interesting.

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Quote from: Rabinovitch on February 06, 2015, 01:44:54 PM

There is a roumor that S5 can do up to 2 Th... Why do we need next AntMiner in this case?

if this is correct then the i expect BM will rise the price soon.

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There is a roumor that S5 can do up to 2 Th... Why do we need next AntMiner in this case?

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Quote from: lowbander80 on January 01, 2015, 04:38:13 PM

Think from a point and on to enchance and all ready good product is very very difficult.Btc market is not on its best with the low prices
So similar 1.5 miner will be with 500-750w consumption
What I realy enjoy on the S5 is that you need one psu and not two plus one by one item sale

Double the S5 wattage and still able fit in one psu. There are lots of 1300-1600 wattage PSU on the market nowadays.

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Think from a point and on to enchance and all ready good product is very very difficult.Btc market is not on its best with the low prices
So similar 1.5 miner will be with 500-750w consumption
What I realy enjoy on the S5 is that you need one psu and not two plus one by one item sale

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chuck a few s5 blades in a box - make sure they're "screwed" nicely

put in a few quieter fans - not that loud but sufficient cooling (by the time it comes out, winter is almost over)

rack mountable ? yeah most likely oh yeah & a fancy LCD screen - but probably with thinner metal sheets for the case ?

try to avoid "magic" smoke from the psu's - stick in a better server type psu or even a VERY good idea & selling point + less headaches where the consumer can find a equivalent server type psu to be fitted/modded.

cost ? - i'm still gonna let ya'll willingly make me rich while u know it may or may not make $

prolly a little "nice" bonus with some miner software linking the miners

cgminer versions ? OS ? yeah there's gonna be sum sort of fukkup but hopefully not especially after releasing a new FW & the miners don't hash or go dead

NO free shipping

my guess - 6 blades minimum, air/fan cooled packed in a box (maybe a light weight one?), lcd display, server type psu = 3th/s (under/over clock-able) between 1500-2000w psu, FW/CGminer +/- abt the same, most likely (my guess) 8 blades underclocked = a lil more hashing power but lower electricity consumption & defo coming in a box (4u)

price - Huh

1 thing for sure BM is NOT going to loose any $

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tell 3kw to the 110volt guys!
3kw means 2 psu's, it means 4u or more... heavier than hell!
don't see a progress in up-ing the wattage. this way we gone have 10kw in 1 miner looking like a fridge! see knc and 400watt thru an 6pin vga...
this is not the way!
the way i see it to be good for miners, is to keep the case format, cooling and wattage and keep on making smaller and less of power hungry chips.

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Quote from: mavericklm on December 28, 2014, 04:32:49 PM

they better do an min 1000 to max 1500watt, not 2000w. too many amps on 1 cable
add more chips, lower the voltage and make it a bit better than knc neptun, say 3.5th!

I actually prefer to go all the way to 3k watt or higher. If you want to mine you have to go big anyway so cmon, get a new high amp cable.

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it wouldbe good if they could do more efficient miner.

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they better do an min 1000 to max 1500watt, not 2000w. too many amps on 1 cable
add more chips, lower the voltage and make it a bit better than knc neptun, say 3.5th!

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3. When better power efficiency is needed in the future due to higher network difficulties, you may want to buy some special PSUs 9V DC with more than 10A output, which will allow you to have a 0.2J/GH mining efficiency, but at lower hashing speed.

With this information on the S5 I believe the S6 will have the same chips as the S5, only with more chips and with a "Special DC PSU" to lower the power consumption.

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You need to remember that the s5 can also be undervolted to achieve .2 w/gh which is less then 1/2 of what it consumes at stock speed.

I do think/hope we will see great improvements in efficiency with the s6, hopefully down to ~.25 w/gh at stock speeds

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I would put my money on a rack mountable miner with the new chip like:
S1 - S2 BM1380
S3 - S4 BM1382
S5 - BM1384

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Quote from: notlist3d on December 24, 2014, 03:06:37 PM

Quote from: dlowings on December 24, 2014, 02:59:35 PM

Rack mount would be nice.. And it would have been really cool if the blades would have been able to fit in the s4

The S4 still has quite a bit of life left in it being profitable for most places, I doubt we see a upgrade on S4.

this is the truth. the s-4 can do .6-.7 watts per gh and at .6 watts a gh the s-4 pays

for 10 cent it pays for power until diff is 94959m
at 12 cent power it pay for power until diff is 78123m
at 15 cent power it pays for power until diff is 61211m

so no need to make an s-6 for at least 90 days.

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Quote from: dlowings on December 24, 2014, 02:59:35 PM

Rack mount would be nice.. And it would have been really cool if the blades would have been able to fit in the s4

The S4 still has quite a bit of life left in it being profitable for most places, I doubt we see a upgrade on S4.

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