Topic: Antminer S8 ? (Read 13524 times)
No this is Antminer S7+ 12,4Th/s
The s-9 will not see much competition in terms of efficiency . Basically their gear has pretty much always been the most efficient.
Now the price point most likely too high. But people will flock to this since they know the ½ ing is coming. I will order 1 just because.
SP20 was more efficient than the S5 was when hashing at the S5's hashrate - though it was VERY close, close enough that manufacturing tolerances probably had a few of the worse efficiency SP20s not managing that against a few of the most efficient S5s.
Bitmain will probably already HAVE competition from Bitfury on efficiency, and that LK1402 might be as well depending on how close BW.com/LKetc hit the announced specs on it.
Right now, though, it's still looking like Bitfury is in the lead, as they've SHOWN working silicon for the full-custom 14/16nm generation and nobody else has (I discount KNC's "Solar" announcements, they've not shown any indication they have fielded that FOR REAL in any quantity worth mention IF AT ALL and KNC has a long history of paper announcements with VERY VERY long delays before delivering actual product).
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And KNC is bankrupt now and likely to soon be dead anyway, RIP no big loss....
I doubt that the S9 will be 1 BTC/TH - though I won't be shocked at .6-.8BTC/TH range. Consider that the S7 is down to around .3/TH lately - the S9 would have to be a .10w/GH unit AT THE MINER (not just at the chip) to be worth over *3 TIMES* the price/TH.
Price easily will be ~10BTC for 10Th
which would make it pointless, and too costly none will buy it, unless he want to sell to a greater fool than him
10 tera can give you only 0.025-0.03 so you see roi will be impossible
https://enforum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/3433?page=1
^^^second from the last post has what I would assume is confirmation of the S9 being released very soon.
^^^second from the last post has what I would assume is confirmation of the S9 being released very soon.
Good spot, thanks for posting this. So the only question will be now... invest in the S9 or will BW release something better (14nm) shortly after that will be even better than the S9?
Thoughts / speculation?
The s-9 will not see much competition in terms of efficiency . Basically their gear has pretty much always been the most efficient.
Now the price point most likely too high. But people will flock to this since they know the ½ ing is coming. I will order 1 just because.
Price easily will be ~10BTC for 10Th
https://enforum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/3433?page=1
^^^second from the last post has what I would assume is confirmation of the S9 being released very soon.
^^^second from the last post has what I would assume is confirmation of the S9 being released very soon.
Good spot, thanks for posting this. So the only question will be now... invest in the S9 or will BW release something better (14nm) shortly after that will be even better than the S9?
Thoughts / speculation?
The s-9 will not see much competition in terms of efficiency . Basically their gear has pretty much always been the most efficient.
Now the price point most likely too high. But people will flock to this since they know the ½ ing is coming. I will order 1 just because.
https://enforum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/3433?page=1
^^^second from the last post has what I would assume is confirmation of the S9 being released very soon.
^^^second from the last post has what I would assume is confirmation of the S9 being released very soon.
Good spot, thanks for posting this. So the only question will be now... invest in the S9 or will BW release something better (14nm) shortly after that will be even better than the S9?
Thoughts / speculation?
https://enforum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/3433?page=1
^^^second from the last post has what I would assume is confirmation of the S9 being released very soon.
^^^second from the last post has what I would assume is confirmation of the S9 being released very soon.
I missed it at first look. Thanks for sharing that is interesting information for sure. An official response I was not expecting.
https://enforum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/3433?page=1
^^^second from the last post has what I would assume is confirmation of the S9 being released very soon.
^^^second from the last post has what I would assume is confirmation of the S9 being released very soon.
Rumors on the BTC ether:
S9 builds already out of stock, the Swedes already bought them all.
https://www.miningsweden.se/product/mining-shares-200-gh-s9-antminers/
They forgot some zero's here & there in the descriptions of the hashing power to rent via the so called S9 capabilities.
Mining Shares 200 GH – S9 Antminers
$49.95
SKU: MS9200 Category: Mining Shares
Company-share
Mining Sweden Antminer S9 2000GH Shares (MS9)
$479.00
SKU: MS92000 Category: Mining Shares
--------------------------
Product Description
We have now information about that the new S9 miner soon will come out on the market so now you can preorder your mining shares with the new S9 Miners.
2000 GH S9 Mining including all costs for 12 months.
This product doesn’t start mining before we have them in the farm
S9 builds already out of stock, the Swedes already bought them all.
https://www.miningsweden.se/product/mining-shares-200-gh-s9-antminers/
They forgot some zero's here & there in the descriptions of the hashing power to rent via the so called S9 capabilities.
Mining Shares 200 GH – S9 Antminers
$49.95
SKU: MS9200 Category: Mining Shares
Company-share
Mining Sweden Antminer S9 2000GH Shares (MS9)
$479.00
SKU: MS92000 Category: Mining Shares
--------------------------
Product Description
We have now information about that the new S9 miner soon will come out on the market so now you can preorder your mining shares with the new S9 Miners.
2000 GH S9 Mining including all costs for 12 months.
This product doesn’t start mining before we have them in the farm
can you buy it directly? what are the spec of this new s9?
It's a cloud site trying to get buzz with this sale. They offer NO details on S9 let alone a date it comes online. So they are offering a certain amount of a S9... they don't even need to know final specs to do this.
It all seems very shady to me personally. I would not pre-order "Mining Shares" just due to them putting up a S9 sale that offers no details.
Rumors on the BTC ether:
S9 builds already out of stock, the Swedes already bought them all.
https://www.miningsweden.se/product/mining-shares-200-gh-s9-antminers/
They forgot some zero's here & there in the descriptions of the hashing power to rent via the so called S9 capabilities.
Mining Shares 200 GH – S9 Antminers
$49.95
SKU: MS9200 Category: Mining Shares
Company-share
Mining Sweden Antminer S9 2000GH Shares (MS9)
$479.00
SKU: MS92000 Category: Mining Shares
--------------------------
Product Description
We have now information about that the new S9 miner soon will come out on the market so now you can preorder your mining shares with the new S9 Miners.
2000 GH S9 Mining including all costs for 12 months.
This product doesn’t start mining before we have them in the farm
S9 builds already out of stock, the Swedes already bought them all.
https://www.miningsweden.se/product/mining-shares-200-gh-s9-antminers/
They forgot some zero's here & there in the descriptions of the hashing power to rent via the so called S9 capabilities.
Mining Shares 200 GH – S9 Antminers
$49.95
SKU: MS9200 Category: Mining Shares
Company-share
Mining Sweden Antminer S9 2000GH Shares (MS9)
$479.00
SKU: MS92000 Category: Mining Shares
--------------------------
Product Description
We have now information about that the new S9 miner soon will come out on the market so now you can preorder your mining shares with the new S9 Miners.
2000 GH S9 Mining including all costs for 12 months.
This product doesn’t start mining before we have them in the farm
can you buy it directly? what are the spec of this new s9?
Rumors on the BTC ether:
S9 builds already out of stock, the Swedes already bought them all.
https://www.miningsweden.se/product/mining-shares-200-gh-s9-antminers/
They forgot some zero's here & there in the descriptions of the hashing power to rent via the so called S9 capabilities.
Mining Shares 200 GH – S9 Antminers
$49.95
SKU: MS9200 Category: Mining Shares
Company-share
Mining Sweden Antminer S9 2000GH Shares (MS9)
$479.00
SKU: MS92000 Category: Mining Shares
--------------------------
Product Description
We have now information about that the new S9 miner soon will come out on the market so now you can preorder your mining shares with the new S9 Miners.
2000 GH S9 Mining including all costs for 12 months.
This product doesn’t start mining before we have them in the farm
S9 builds already out of stock, the Swedes already bought them all.
https://www.miningsweden.se/product/mining-shares-200-gh-s9-antminers/
They forgot some zero's here & there in the descriptions of the hashing power to rent via the so called S9 capabilities.
Mining Shares 200 GH – S9 Antminers
$49.95
SKU: MS9200 Category: Mining Shares
Company-share
Mining Sweden Antminer S9 2000GH Shares (MS9)
$479.00
SKU: MS92000 Category: Mining Shares
--------------------------
Product Description
We have now information about that the new S9 miner soon will come out on the market so now you can preorder your mining shares with the new S9 Miners.
2000 GH S9 Mining including all costs for 12 months.
This product doesn’t start mining before we have them in the farm
Same reason you don't see the BM1585 (or any other mining chip Bitmain made) getting close to IT'S max efficiency - fewer chips = lower cost per TH = bigger performance = more folks WANT the miner even if it's not max on efficiency (which is what killed Spondoolies, they made GOOD tuneable miners but too many folks wanted low cost/MH).
I agree we are not seeing them hit their best efficiency because the main market for them has very low electricity cost and what matters is how fast they hash rather that the last ounce of efficiency. S1, S3 & S5 all were able to be pushed to significant efficiency improvements and I am sure that S7 could see a big gain as well, but they would rather just sell the next generation.
Rich
In theory, if you set up a miner with a buck setup to run a string of the new BitFury chips, it COULD hit the mystical 100w/TH mark - but I suspect most miners using it will opt for fewer chips = higher hashrate per chip = lower $/hash at the cost of efficiency.
Same reason you don't see the BM1585 (or any other mining chip Bitmain made) getting close to IT'S max efficiency - fewer chips = lower cost per TH = bigger performance = more folks WANT the miner even if it's not max on efficiency (which is what killed Spondoolies, they made GOOD tuneable miners but too many folks wanted low cost/MH).
Same reason you don't see the BM1585 (or any other mining chip Bitmain made) getting close to IT'S max efficiency - fewer chips = lower cost per TH = bigger performance = more folks WANT the miner even if it's not max on efficiency (which is what killed Spondoolies, they made GOOD tuneable miners but too many folks wanted low cost/MH).
I'm guessing (hoping) we don't see an S8 until July of 2016. I would expect we'd see something like 8TH/s @ 1250 watts.
i'm expecting 10 TH/S for 1000 watts
maybe around nov this year after halving I still think we're a year off before we reach effective 1TH/100w - at least on 110V miners. 240V rigs will be closer to that goal.
I'm guessing (hoping) we don't see an S8 until July of 2016. I would expect we'd see something like 8TH/s @ 1250 watts.
i'm expecting 10 TH/S for 1000 watts
maybe around nov this year after halving I don't think an S9 by July is likely - but I wouldn't mind being proven wrong, and it's certainly not impossible (Bitmain DID announce they were working on their next-gen chip at the same time as they released the S7 after all).
June at least, or earlier
Dragon A2's were beasts I'm not knocking them I know some data centers they were put on a ton of stress... and lived. They were really good miners, only thing they lacked was a nice PSU. Assuming LKETC a2 eventually a PSU dying was kinda common.
Yeah, I've had one PS die already (no idea how old the miner was, used unit from Zoomhash PS died on first turning - they DID compensate me for it, bit of miscommunication issues but no real hassle).
I find a Seasonic X1250 is a VERY VERY good fit in place of the stock unit - it's a bit longer, but the fan lines up with the hole in the side of the case well and the modular connectors you NEED to put in have enough clearance to work well.
EVGA 1300 G2 does NOT fit well (it's a little longer than the X1250), the fan hole doesn't line up nearly as well *AND* clearances on the cables are so bloody tight you pretty much would have to move the controller board to avoid shorting stuff out from cables rubbing against sharp things pretty quickly.
Both have PLENTY of power to run A2 Mega Terminator units as a nicely high overclock.
I don't think an S9 by July is likely - but I wouldn't mind being proven wrong, and it's certainly not impossible (Bitmain DID announce they were working on their next-gen chip at the same time as they released the S7 after all).
all the release dates, tech,etc etc is all going to depend on BTC price after halving.
Apparently MiningSweden has bought S9s
the launch should be just around the corner
the launch should be just around the corner
proof ?
Only proof right now is on the Mining Sweden website.
They did S7 hashpower preorders a month or two before the S7 got released. So if you go by that, then it could mean the Antminer S9 could be on sale within a month or two.
Difference is this time Bitmain are keeping quiet on it so whether Mining Sweden have just left the cat out the bag bigtime, who knows for sure.
what cat these are simply preorders on cloud mining.
100 share of 20gh = 2000gh or 2th of a s-9 that does not pay until they come.
2000gh for a year earns about 705 back
without a 1/2ing
they want 598 for the 2000gh good luck with buying that.
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