Topic: Antminer S8 ? - page 3. (Read 13582 times)

Likely this will not happen if they do I would guess internal.  They just have done many generations without a replacement board.  I think S3 upgrade from S1 (I believe) was first and last upgrade.

So for them not to do S3 to S5, or even S2 to S4 we will not be seeing any upgrades kits.  They are more interested in selling entire unit's at this point.

My guess would be that a "replacement board" is coming too. I mean when they will release the next generation I believe they will also offer boards for existing S7 units.
Make them S9 for example with 3 new ASICs. You could keep the controller, house and PSU (and the physical setup).

Just my 2c anyway

 Which just means Avalon is going to be VERY late to the party at 14/16nm given lead times on development and that some folks like Bitfury, KnC, and probably BitMain and Innosilicon are probably already starting design work on their full-custom 14/16nm generation of chips (and in the case of BitFury and KnC have already announced tape-out or production on said generation).



 S8 efficiency will be very close to, or the SAME, as S7 efficiency, as it will be using the same chips - IF BitMain bothers releasing an S8 model.
 I'm still betting on an S7+ instead.


 I'm guessing that the next major upgrade will be an S9 model, ballpark end of 2016 timeframe, using 14nm full custom at ballpark 0.05w/GH efficiency.
 I DON'T think Bitmain is likely to get their next generation out before the halfing, or in significant numbers if they DO manage to do so.
 Yield issues on the 14/16nm process are pretty significant to date.



 Bitmain announced a while back that there will be NO S6 Model.




 The S7 should still be profitable after the halfing - but only marginally so and dependent on VERY cheap electric to manage a profit.
 Ditto the Avalon 6, but it's going to depend a lot on if either of them handle undervolting well if at all.
 I suspect the B-Eleven will be in the same boat once it's released, for the same reasons.

 Even the SP50 isn't going to be very profitable at that point, despite it's slightly better efficiency than anything announced to date.

If they launch it in feb then yes 0.1 is ok. But i expect them to come out somewhere in april and then they have to do a lot better then 0.1.

Probably 0.05 or less.

I think it will be a 10Th+ Miner with 0.1 efficiency.

it must be lower then 0.15 since Spondoolies Tech already have a miner with 0.15 efficiency.

Could be.

I guessed bitmain left that series and will focus on the efficiency (the s5+ was a goodbye to the S6 maybe)

Too bad, since i loved the S4 and it's robust view.

After the S3, we got the S4, so after the S5 i expected the S6, but bitmain decided to go ahead with the S7 first. Since the unit is very compact i would reckon they try to maximize profit before launching a new miner.

i think that will be based on a different chipset and a worst efficiency if based on the s4, just bulkier and that's it

as i see the s8 should be double the efficiency of the s7, probably it will come out around the halving or just before it to give mienrs more margin on profit

That's the rumored S7+ as far as I know. Hopefully Bitmain does go this route.

For an S8 or S9? Maybe a year from now.


I also have an s3 stocked in here but unplugged. Power rates are just too much. That's why I too am hoping for a lighter s7.

for  now the best home use from bitmain is the S3 IMHO,and the reason why I say that is because it does not run loud compared to the s5 and s7. I know we can change the fans on the latters but still :-p
I do look forward to the new products that they will eventually come out with hehe

your ideea with a light miner seems good to me.
A miner with like 2.5 Th/s and just 700 W or so, that would be nice !

S7 is the "@home" miner, asic makers only want to sell to large company's now and they basically don't give a shit about the hobbyist.  So we have to be happy that at least we still have bitmain to buy from, otherwise we would be out of the game.  But I agree a true light version of the S7 would be amazeballs, like a 2 th unit that uses 500 watts or so and then we could use all our old PSUs that are collecting dust.

The Antminer  S8? What about the Antminer S6

The Antminer  S6 should be like the Antminer S2, S4 so a bigger unit with more hashing power and higher shipping cost.

they should think of the little guys like us who mine at home and can't afford those expensive S7's !
they should make an S7 home edition.which has fans that are really quiet and doesn't consume alot of wattage that hashes around 1.5/2 Ths and is affordable :-P

Well they could tell but you know its China so they would just cut your throat if you leak info.  We will never know these deep Chinese secrets.

It makes me wonder if their chips are varying a lot on quality.  Where each batch they make it's pretty random on what quality of chip comes out.  There has to be something as they sure are not changing speed just for fun of it.

But we likely will never know as most of the information like that will be locked tight under NDA and anyone who knows chances are can't tell.

The way things are going the S7 will be obsolete in 6 months or less the way difficulty is going, so ya something twice as efficient will have to come out.  I think a 10 th unit that consumes 1200 watts or a little less could be a prediction.  Who knows what will really happen and in what time frame but it would have to be before the halving to even keep us going in the future.

Yes, how can the latter batch be less efficient?

I don't understand it.

interesting to think the s-7 is only 60 day old and we are talking s-8

the s-7+  may have 4 s-7 cases  slide them together use 2 boards each with 2 heatsinks each.  8 boards slight downclock  = 8 x 1500 or 12th  but .2 watts or 2400 watts.

One thing to keep in mind was S5+ was pretty short amount of time and one batch.  There were S7 rumors all around during the release so we had a good guess it would be soon. 

But they can switch pretty quick as we have seen.   I mean really every batch of S7's is a question on speed at this point.   So I still think we have a while with it as their new product.

If we make it to July as OgNasty mentioned I would be thrilled.  I hope it's around then when they move to next gen I want to ride out this gen as long as we can.