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Topic: Antminer S9 - How to power in Canada? - page 3. (Read 30666 times)

newbie
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June 12, 2016, 09:22:12 PM
#54
Damnn that's pricey!
My neighbor is an electrician. I would get him to do it.
But first I have to save up $1,500 more only to get an S9  Cry Cry Cry
full member
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I mine because math
June 12, 2016, 07:24:28 PM
#53
That would be ideal but you would still need two spaces on your main panel to supply 220v power to your subpanel. But I wouldn'the get into that stuff unless you know what you are doing. There are alot of things to consider and failing to do that can be deadly. I would get an electrician to do it.


100% correct, I'm lucky enough that my business partner is a Red Seal electrician. We wired a 60A 240V sub-panel in a day to power the miners, cost us about $1000 dollars in materials (the 60' of 60A 3wire cable was $280 alone).
newbie
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June 12, 2016, 06:41:36 PM
#52
That would be ideal but you would still need two spaces on your main panel to supply 220v power to your subpanel. But I wouldn'the get into that stuff unless you know what you are doing. There are alot of things to consider and failing to do that can be deadly. I would get an electrician to do it.
newbie
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June 12, 2016, 01:26:19 PM
#51
Oh I see. So how about just adding a second panel?
I think it would be dope to just get a big new panel and have it dedicated to just the bitcoin miners!
full member
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I mine because math
June 12, 2016, 12:55:15 PM
#50
To power a miner with 240v you will need two breaker spots to fit one of these PER MINER




If you only have one (or zero) spot(s) available, you will need one of these:



Which will allow you to power ONE miner on the middle hookup (An antminer MUST HAVE a dedicated 15A breaker, for 240v those two 15A breakers MUST BE ganged together to prevent potentially serious damage to a power supply) and give you two 120v spot to replace whatever you had to move.

Hope that helps Cheesy


Edit: Thought I should mention the top breaker will run you about $20, the bottom one is closer to $50
newbie
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June 12, 2016, 12:24:10 PM
#49
In order to get 220v from it you would need 2 spaces together to fit a double wide breaker in it. how many amps you can use depends on how many you are provided with and how many are already being used. maybe you should upload a photo of your breaker panel, that would be a good place to start.
newbie
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June 12, 2016, 12:11:50 PM
#48
That's tons of interesting posts you guys. Now I need some tips...
I have only one free breaker left... I want to get a 220V circuit on it. How high in amps can I go? How many S9's would I be able to run on one breaker?
Explain it like you try to explain it to a 3 year old, That's all I am  Tongue
full member
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I mine because math
June 11, 2016, 05:00:33 PM
#47
As I said before its not amazing and I know I could stand to do a little construction to make it prettier but they function just fine being ugly.
with the info that sidehack has made me aware of I will have to do a little construction to make room for three more miners.
Also I know that since I am a newbie these will only show up as links but apparently if someone awesome quotes me they will show up as pics in the quote...otherwise i guess you will have to visit the link to see them. Pixel375 I hope you have enough info to make a plan!






Quoted for pics

Nice short runs, that's a pretty handy setup you're running Smiley Never forget that "home mining is dead"  Roll Eyes



I'll just leave this here....



*For some reason it keeps refusing to display: http://imgur.com/P5mHhNo*
newbie
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June 11, 2016, 03:41:19 PM
#46
As I said before its not amazing and I know I could stand to do a little construction to make it prettier but they function just fine being ugly.
with the info that sidehack has made me aware of I will have to do a little construction to make room for three more miners.
Also I know that since I am a newbie these will only show up as links but apparently if someone awesome quotes me they will show up as pics in the quote...otherwise i guess you will have to visit the link to see them. Pixel375 I hope you have enough info to make a plan!


http://imgur.com/4MBvfFG
http://imgur.com/3dEeg4Q
http://imgur.com/ZfUzMag
newbie
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June 11, 2016, 02:58:06 PM
#45
Ok I will upload in a bit but it's not nearly as impressive as the ones posted by Erumara earlier.
legendary
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June 11, 2016, 02:23:57 PM
#44
You have gotten alot of good info already  but I will tell you what I did anyways. When I got my 3 s7's I had the same issue. I needed each of them to have 220v and 16 amps. I ran a 6 Guage 3 wire cable from my main breaker panel pushing 220v to a new subpanel that I installed just for the miners then I got 3 20 amp 2 pole breakers and some 220v outlets from home Depot and installed 3 20 amp 220v circuits, one for each miner. I then had to get some heavy server power cords and splice new ends on them to fit the 220v outlets that I bought. I know there are alot of ways to avoid having to do this but it seems to me that each miner should have its own 20 amp circuit with the appropriate sized wires to avoid heating up breaker panels and wires. I read about pdu's and it seems to me like trying to put too many eggs in a carton. If you are interested I can upload pics of my setup.

 Yeah!  Upload away.  Miner porn is always cool Wink
legendary
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
June 11, 2016, 02:19:50 PM
#43
16A would be a good margin for powering on 120V. Bitmain also recommends their 1600W PSU though, which won't work on 120V, so I don't know what they're doing.
newbie
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June 11, 2016, 01:23:43 PM
#42
The paperwork that came with the hardware said it needs 16 amps but perhaps it was referring to 120v power. If this is true than I can double the number of miners in my group. Thanks for pointing that out.
legendary
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
June 11, 2016, 01:08:13 PM
#41
At 220V an S7 should pull under 7 amps. A 20A breaker per unit is extreme overkill. My hosting shelves run 208V and I put them four to a 30A breaker.
newbie
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June 11, 2016, 12:35:56 PM
#40
You have gotten alot of good info already  but I will tell you what I did anyways. When I got my 3 s7's I had the same issue. I needed each of them to have 220v and 16 amps. I ran a 6 Guage 3 wire cable from my main breaker panel pushing 220v to a new subpanel that I installed just for the miners then I got 3 20 amp 2 pole breakers and some 220v outlets from home Depot and installed 3 20 amp 220v circuits, one for each miner. I then had to get some heavy server power cords and splice new ends on them to fit the 220v outlets that I bought. I know there are alot of ways to avoid having to do this but it seems to me that each miner should have its own 20 amp circuit with the appropriate sized wires to avoid heating up breaker panels and wires. I read about pdu's and it seems to me like trying to put too many eggs in a carton. If you are interested I can upload pics of my setup.
full member
Activity: 140
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I mine because math
June 11, 2016, 12:08:20 PM
#39
You're too kind Cheesy

Figured I would snap a couple pics of my nearly completed ventilation.

To be added: 2 more 8" fans to bring airflow to 1500cfm, the necessary two 8" ducts on the left side of the box.






Hand-made 10"x14" filtered intake, and 10"x10" hooded exhaust.





*Ignore the timestamp, this old camera constantly dies*
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 7912
June 11, 2016, 11:57:09 AM
#38
Wow!  Nice setup.
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I mine because math
June 11, 2016, 11:53:21 AM
#37
Thought I may chime in, mining in Alberta myself. Just about finished my mining box with space/power for 8 miners, working on some new pics of my finished intake/exhaust.

Here is 240v power for the miners, each unit pulls on a 15a double throw going to a simplex 240v plug.






If you're having a electrician help you out those simplex to 5-15 adapters are a bit pricey, but actually meet code in Canada, as you cannot wire up a 5-15 wall plug with 240v and have it pass an inspection.

I highly recommend the eVGA 1600w, they will power any GPU or ASIC rig flawlessly and with better efficiency than Bitmain's PSU.
I had one of these eVGA's spontaneously stop working, it was inconvenient but I got a new one from newegg in 3 days. 2 weeks later after spending $40 to ship the dead unit back to eVGA in California, I got a brand new sealed unit with a full 10yr warranty and altogether I'm extremely happy.

The best part is I have the spare PSU just itching to power an S9, just waiting for the price to drop a little bit more.....
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 7912
June 11, 2016, 11:45:26 AM
#36
So the new, amazing Antminer S9 just came out... And I really want to buy it!
But the S9 needs to be powered at 1375W, and with 9 PCI-e connectors (3/board).
The recommended power supply is the APW3.
The APW3 needs over 220V to run, but I live in Canada, and in Canada there is only 110V outlets.
Currently I'm running 2 S5 antminers on one EVGA SuperNOVA 1300 G2, which has just the right number of connectors, which is 8.
So now I'm either looking for a PSU that can do 1600W and has 9 PCI-e connectors and hope it will be enough,
could use 2 PSUs to power one miner,
or get a 110V -> 220V transformer and hope it doesn't blow any boards or circuits.

Please help me out you wonderful people Smiley

 You probably have a couple of 20A breakers in your kitchen on split plugs for your toaster over/coffee maker/microwave.  That would give you more than enough power for the S9 @ 120V
Careful with your other outlets though.  They are ganged so you could easily pop the normal 15A circuit breaker.  I did that a couple of years ago turning on my Christmas tree lights - even though the outlet was far away from where my miners were plugged in, they were on the same circuit.  If you do nothing else, make a diagram of which outlets are serviced by which breaker.

legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000
June 11, 2016, 11:34:24 AM
#35
When the controller is shut off the other blades still keep hashing?

Yes the blades will try to finish their currently hashing jobs, so here's the trouble, when you cut off power to the controller, the fan stops running but the blades are still hashing for at least a short while longer. Temp gets out of control, since the fans are no longer running, poof out comes the magic smoke.
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