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Topic: Antminer Z11 equihash miner from Bitmain Released - Antminer S17 PRO 2nd GEN (Read 1599 times)

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I'm still not sure what to order Z11 or Innosilicon  A9+ . The last is a bit costly and has a little less hashrate  (120Ksol/s vs 135 120Ksol/s) but, the way I see it,  A9+  is more  robust and relatively simple  to carry out prevention measures in regard of their long-term maintenance. Has anyone a difference   of opinion with me on that?

Can you elaborate?
legendary
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Ukrainians will resist
How are they with payback?
Do you believe that you can pay back the miner and still earn money on it?
Maybe it would be better to buy bitcoins right away?
It looks more win-win than buying an ASIC.
hero member
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I'm still not sure what to order Z11 or Innosilicon  A9+ . The last is a bit costly and has a little less hashrate  (120Ksol/s vs 135 120Ksol/s) but, the way I see it,  A9+  is more  robust and relatively simple  to carry out prevention measures in regard of their long-term maintenance. Has anyone a difference   of opinion with me on that?
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How much was the z9 from bitmain, I remember ordering one then getting hit with the tariff, lol.

I had to cut a check for 31k for the tariff on my z9 mini's. Worst decision I have made in crypto was to buy these. Should of just bought some masternodes
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How much was the z9 from bitmain, I remember ordering one then getting hit with the tariff, lol.

The price from my China reseller as below:
used Z9mini with psu: 194 usd
used Z9 with psu: 567 usd
Used A9 with psu: 895 susd

i think the difficulty of equihash mining will increase again when A9++ comes out.
newbie
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Anyone know a reputable place to buy these?
In the US there seems to be a number of Ebay listings for Z11 preorders, though you're going to pay a pretty steep premium through those sellers as they jack up their prices due to import fees and PP/Ebay fees. Ebay provides you with very good buyer protection so there shouldn't be issues with buying on there unless you're buying from someone with 0 feedbacks.

You could also make a WTB post for a Z11 in the Computer Hardware section (click for link) on this forum. Always use escrow while buying and selling here if you choose to go this route.

it is best if you live in the united states to establish a gray import through canada. it will be so much cheaper than buying it in ebay. in addition, defective shipments are often sold in ebay.
which after a few months of work break down.

Hey guys, there are also many miner resellers in China, i highly recommend my friend Grace zhou from "Shenzhen Rumax technology limited", their price is lower than official website and can declare lower value for me to deduct or avoid tariff. They can also test the miners for u before shipping in case of any defective parts of miners.

Below is their contact information:
Shenzhen rumax technology limited
contact: Grace zhou
Email: [email protected]
Whatsapp:+8617875427757
newbie
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zcash mining difficulty spiked today at an all time high.  But now is back down low.  Looks like a lot of Z11s were delivered or else somebody in China is testing a lot of them before shipment. 

I also got hit with a $2127.01 charge from Fedex for the Trump tax on 4 units.  Sad

So high the tariff was . i paid no tariff for my 6 z11s as my agent in China declared just 95usd per unit for me. 6*95=570usd only, it's really good.

U can also ask my agent in China to help u next time, they are miner reseller in China.

Below is their contact information:
Shenzhen rumax technology limited
contact: Grace zhou
Email: [email protected]
Whatsapp:+8617875427757
newbie
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Hi there, first time posting. Is anyone else experiencing a lot of hardware errors? My z11 has been up for 3 hours and over 1,000 hardware errors on one chain..

hey, have u upgraded the firmware ?  Here is the new firmware link from bitmain, u  can have a try

https://file11.bitmain.com/shop-product/firmware/Antminer%20Z11/Firmware/00720190424201804548Vm3X531X063C/Antminer-Z11-fixed-718M-201904231321-sig.tar.gz
newbie
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Anyone know a reputable place to buy these?

I got a local reseller from China, whose price is cheaper than the official website, and they can declare lower value for me to decrease or even avoid tariff, very reliable reseller.
They also have facebook group -"Asic miner buy& sell", where they will update daily price and show machine testing video.  
u can send inquiries to her if interested, highly recommend , below is their contact information:

Shenzhen Rumax technology
contact: Grace zhou
Email: [email protected]
Whatsapp:+8617875427757
newbie
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Hi there, first time posting. Is anyone else experiencing a lot of hardware errors? My z11 has been up for 3 hours and over 1,000 hardware errors on one chain..
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My Z11 is mining at MinningPoolHub, Zcash and getting an accepted ratio of 99.72%. I tried NiceHash and it was around 90%. My average rate is 140.43 kH/s. I have not tried other coins yet but all seems to be running well.

https://i.postimg.cc/Y9LSMqjf/Z11mph.jpg

Had 10 Z11's on Antpools ZCash and very disappointed in first full hash rate.  Specifically, what Awesome Miner and the Z11's control panel show with regards to hash rate is far higher than Antpool advises.  So doing a test: 

5 on Antpool and
5 on ZHash

Only 5 hours in but hash rate is far better on ZHash.  Will update test over next few days.

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someone tested power consumption?

i got 7.2A = 1650W  Huh

newbie
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My Z11 is mining at MinningPoolHub, Zcash and getting an accepted ratio of 99.72%. I tried NiceHash and it was around 90%. My average rate is 140.43 kH/s. I have not tried other coins yet but all seems to be running well.

https://i.postimg.cc/Y9LSMqjf/Z11mph.jpg
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Also getting a lot of rejected shares across multiple pools the last few days with the Z11. About 20% are rejected.


Can you link me some stats to look at in chat? I am pretty sure you are on the discord...
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Thank you for the feedback.

I worked on an updated Z9 image today and hope to get a z11 image which gives you control back (but no real overclocking yet... I can make the boards go a lot faster, but hash rate doesn’t change, just how quickly they get up to speed)..

I am thinking it will be dev-fee free for at least a couple of weeks and then be like 20-25 minutes a day. Hopefully I’ll be able to crack the last bit and actually get more hash out of these soon... I am only able to work remote on other people’s systems so far.

-j
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I think hardware errors are normal on this platform now; I've seen them on every system I've looked at so far.

Are you seeing "rejected" shares or "discarded" shares?

If you are mining against nicehash, you will see rejected shares.

-j

I've been getting some rejected shares not too many, but enough to bother me. I tried nanopool and flypool both gives similar results. Then I turned my fans up as chip temps were running kinda hot 70C changed to fixed 80% fan. they r at 62C and it helped with hw errors. The 2nd 3rd chains that give me hw errors are staying at higher freq then 1st so chip temp was higher on them 2 chains. the increased fan helped with that so guys kick up the fans if temps r higher then 67C  if def lowered  hw errors for me . Thank you much efudd for your work so far kudos on quick fw with signature removal nice job 👍. I personally can't wait to be able to set my own freq to run more stable and voltage adjust wud be a BIG plus for sure. Bitmain shouldn't do this crap we buy these not rent so shud be able to configure as I see fit,same crap as cell phones finally letting people unlock their phones cuz if paid for them and own them. Big thanks and anyone here including me let's help efudd if needed, so we can control out miners ourselves not Bitmain picking our settings . 
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I would guess pool problem-- are you able to see what pools are being used during those rejects? .. I don't know how miningrigrentals works -- i don't know if they act as a pool front or if the user provides pool information.

i can set the pool...it´s only passthrough if no one rent this rig

and u use 2miners and also tried miningpoolhub

but why so many HW errors...my z9 mini´s dont have any HW shown after days

could it be, that the chain auto speed is to high

I think it is just part of how they are doing their ASICs here -- a HW error does not necessarily mean a fatal error. I will say that the higher you push a board, the more likely errors will occur. The key though is the hash rate (and ultimately share submission rate).

The DR5 and others throw lots of HW errors, but still hash/submit just fine. I personally use flypool and antpool (sigh) without issues on my Z units. Try it on another pool and see if you don't get the rejects... I will eventually release a firmware that will let you control the frequencies yourself, but until then that is the only suggest I personally have.

At this point in time, I think ignoring HW errors is ok -- when they occur, there are no errors in the system log that I've seen that would indicate an actual problem with the hashes, at least the ones I have looked at so far.

-j
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I would guess pool problem-- are you able to see what pools are being used during those rejects? .. I don't know how miningrigrentals works -- i don't know if they act as a pool front or if the user provides pool information.

i can set the pool...it´s only passthrough if no one rent this rig

and u use 2miners and also tried miningpoolhub

but why so many HW errors...my z9 mini´s dont have any HW shown after days

could it be, that the chain auto speed is to high
member
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I would guess pool problem-- are you able to see what pools are being used during those rejects? .. I don't know how miningrigrentals works -- i don't know if they act as a pool front or if the user provides pool information.
member
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I think hardware errors are normal on this platform.

Are you seeing "rejected" shares or "discarded" shares?

If you are mining against nicehash, you will see rejected shares.

-j


i have trouble with lot of rejected shares through miningrigrentals

https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/126089

like you can see...rejected shares and hashrate went to zero - have to reboot the miner and after this...maybe 10-20 rejected / hour is normal and i dont worry about...but sometimes...90k rejected shares and only 30-40k accepted - could be pool related ?!
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