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jr. member
Activity: 68
Merit: 6
September 19, 2018, 01:23:42 PM
I just received my Z9 Mini from Batch 3 ($793, Sep 20 - 30th Batch). US, DHL delivery, no customs.

It seems they have fixed the workaround for overclocking or used a different firmware on this batch that locked down overclocking even more. The filesystem/firmware is dated Fri, August 31st rather than Sun, Aug 12th like Batch 2.
When attempting to use the advanced editor 'F12' and change the frequency manually it just ignores the change and chugs along at 500 freq.

I'm seeing around 11 ksol/s with no OC currently. I'll have to try another work around later like flashing an older version of the firmware.
sr. member
Activity: 472
Merit: 250
lux8.net
September 18, 2018, 11:42:29 PM
0.0927 ZEC per day?

Lol. where?
not from one z9 for sure.
full member
Activity: 269
Merit: 101
September 18, 2018, 10:41:17 PM
My Z9 mini has been running for 44 days straight at 750M with an average sol rate of 16.37.

I have seen my Zcash per day steadily drop for the last few weeks and is now at 0.0927 Zcash per day. 

This machine has been great but it looks like the full size Z9s have started to come online and the hashrates are going up big time.  Sad  Fun while it lasted!

0.0927 ZEC per day?

Lol. where?
member
Activity: 504
Merit: 51
September 18, 2018, 10:26:59 PM
My Z9 mini has been running for 44 days straight at 750M with an average sol rate of 16.37.

I have seen my Zcash per day steadily drop for the last few weeks and is now at 0.0927 Zcash per day. 

This machine has been great but it looks like the full size Z9s have started to come online and the hashrates are going up big time.  Sad  Fun while it lasted!

I don't think the Z9s have come online yet.... 2 of mine land tomorrow from batch1.

-j
jr. member
Activity: 123
Merit: 2
September 18, 2018, 10:21:54 PM
My Z9 mini has been running for 44 days straight at 750M with an average sol rate of 16.37.

I have seen my Zcash per day steadily drop for the last few weeks and is now at 0.0927 Zcash per day. 

This machine has been great but it looks like the full size Z9s have started to come online and the hashrates are going up big time.  Sad  Fun while it lasted!
member
Activity: 531
Merit: 29
September 18, 2018, 07:09:25 PM
Could you pls help me to figure out how to solve the problem on board no.2 ?
I have x on board 2, however, if i decreased the frequency the x will be removed.



"Decrease frequency" is the only solution as of now.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
September 18, 2018, 06:11:50 PM
Could you pls help me to figure out how to solve the problem on board no.2 ?
I have x on board 2, however, if i decreased the frequency the x will be removed.
https://i.postimg.cc/HWSGkKS8/20180918_224555.jpg
https://postimg.cc/xqbpssV9
newbie
Activity: 168
Merit: 0
September 18, 2018, 04:04:56 PM
I have just dropped my freq to 637 and the few that were giving me hassle on 650 plus are hashing higher at 637  Shocked maybe try lowering the rate... see what you think...
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
September 18, 2018, 02:55:29 PM
Hello  i just contact Bitmain and they don"t sell any hashboard for the Mini z9......
jr. member
Activity: 98
Merit: 4
September 17, 2018, 02:50:46 PM
About firmware versions and overclocking:

I've been doing some serious digging!!!

When you login to your Z9 mini you check on first page "System - Overview"
Batch 1, 2 and 3 all seem to have "Hardware Version:" = 9.0.0.5

"File System Version:" tells you which firmware version your Z9 mini is running on.

There are at LEAST four (4) different firmware versions for z9 mini:

1. Sat May 26 20:42:30 CST 2018 = Antminer-Z9-Mini-201805262047-500M.tar.gz
2. Sun Aug 12 17:43:41 CST 2018 = Huh
3. Thu Aug 30 14:57:48 CST 2018 = Huh
4. Fri Aug 31 17:02:59 CST 2018 = Antminer-Z9-Mini-NAND-500M-201808311812.tar.gz (the now only downloadable fw on Bitmains site for z9 mini.)

May 26 and Aug 12 firmware-versions are overclockable either from SSH into machine and changing the file "/config/cgminer.conf" or from Chrome using "Inspection" for the field where you choose "frequence" (May 26 version) alt. "mode" (Aug 12 version) on page "Miner configuration - Advanced settings" and for the May 26 version ofcourse you just choose the frequence here you wan't just like God intended !

Aug 30 and Aug 31 versions just ignores any frequence value from cgminer.conf or with Chrome's "Inspection" method.
If you go to the "/www/pages/cgi.bin/minerAdvanced.cgi"-file and changes value and saving after you made filesystem writable. After reboot it will have changed the file back!!!


Batch 1 seem to be very overclockable !!!
I, myself, are running my single batch 1 Z9 mini on 768 MHz and it's solid !!!


For Batch 2/3 I have seen quite a few running them on 668 MHz solid with both fw May 26(after upgrade) and Aug 12 firmware's !!!


WHEN you install the May 26 firmware I strongly recommend you UNcheck "Keep settings:" to get as clean install and as little problems as possible.


I really recommend you checkout mining at prohashing.com dispite their "high fee" (not high in relation to what I earn compared to MPH, nanopool and flypool after 48 hours, at least for me and my friends.) Read under "Help" on prohashing.com for further info and earning possibilities if you choose a single coin to hash.)


Pool settings for prohashing.com: (here you can see mine)
Url : stratum+tcp://prohashing.com:3336   (3336 is for Equihash algorithm that z9 mini calculates)
Worker : imine2   (the username I registered with at prohashing.com)
Password : n=z9mini101   (the "101" stands for machines ip:10.0.1.101 in my home network and it's just a name to identify your machine if you have more then one.)


File: Antminer-Z9-Mini-201805262047-500M.tar.gz
sha-1: 8791eee569dfff728c8363e5d8fd93f68957a2ee
https://ufile.io/fwcqd
(This link goes to the May 26 firmware which I've shared at Uploadfiles.io and should work for 30 days from september 10, 2018!)


Donations - I hope all my hard work will help up your earnings:

Bitcoin (BTC): 1HY5ZvPvx3fx5iA5cQKjw9ZuArse2STuCb
Litecoin (LTC): LZPmxZdoe8ZNL8av5CkPPBEEBJVdoFQbS6
Zcash (ZEC): t1d35jvkzKcWybpCqojZmgDZkcFC7iBwe8w
Monero (XMR): 48gVGMbZsAD5xtbpEpBKTJiDz6uMrnkTxjMcJGGFtore7i7wckSqmvYKfPVGQGab6U9kK76nGa91fhL SDvPfK4bYKkJaXeW

Do you earn more on Prohashing then Mining Pool Hub?... I have been wondering where the best place is to point my Z9's ..
Will Prohashing mine on Autoswitch?. BTCP, HUSH , XEC, ZCL, Ect and payout in BTC?
Thanks

Any idea where to get this firmware :

2. Sun Aug 12 17:43:41 CST 2018 = ? ? ?



No,
as far as I know the only two (2) firmware's that been downloadable from Bitmain's site are:
1. Sat May 26 20:42:30 CST 2018 = Antminer-Z9-Mini-201805262047-500M.tar.gz
and
4. Fri Aug 31 17:02:59 CST 2018 = Antminer-Z9-Mini-NAND-500M-201808311812.tar.gz

The other two was preinstalled on delivered machines I have helped friends to setup.

Can't imagine what could be better with aug 12 firmware since it is limited in which frequence you can set without "hacking" via Chrome or SSH ?

today thoose machines all run stable on the may 26 firmware without any problem and they are all overclocked to 668 or 675 MHz.
newbie
Activity: 1
Merit: 0
September 17, 2018, 01:28:40 PM
About firmware versions and overclocking:

I've been doing some serious digging!!!

When you login to your Z9 mini you check on first page "System - Overview"
Batch 1, 2 and 3 all seem to have "Hardware Version:" = 9.0.0.5

"File System Version:" tells you which firmware version your Z9 mini is running on.

There are at LEAST four (4) different firmware versions for z9 mini:

1. Sat May 26 20:42:30 CST 2018 = Antminer-Z9-Mini-201805262047-500M.tar.gz
2. Sun Aug 12 17:43:41 CST 2018 = Huh
3. Thu Aug 30 14:57:48 CST 2018 = Huh
4. Fri Aug 31 17:02:59 CST 2018 = Antminer-Z9-Mini-NAND-500M-201808311812.tar.gz (the now only downloadable fw on Bitmains site for z9 mini.)

May 26 and Aug 12 firmware-versions are overclockable either from SSH into machine and changing the file "/config/cgminer.conf" or from Chrome using "Inspection" for the field where you choose "frequence" (May 26 version) alt. "mode" (Aug 12 version) on page "Miner configuration - Advanced settings" and for the May 26 version ofcourse you just choose the frequence here you wan't just like God intended !

Aug 30 and Aug 31 versions just ignores any frequence value from cgminer.conf or with Chrome's "Inspection" method.
If you go to the "/www/pages/cgi.bin/minerAdvanced.cgi"-file and changes value and saving after you made filesystem writable. After reboot it will have changed the file back!!!


Batch 1 seem to be very overclockable !!!
I, myself, are running my single batch 1 Z9 mini on 768 MHz and it's solid !!!


For Batch 2/3 I have seen quite a few running them on 668 MHz solid with both fw May 26(after upgrade) and Aug 12 firmware's !!!


WHEN you install the May 26 firmware I strongly recommend you UNcheck "Keep settings:" to get as clean install and as little problems as possible.


I really recommend you checkout mining at prohashing.com dispite their "high fee" (not high in relation to what I earn compared to MPH, nanopool and flypool after 48 hours, at least for me and my friends.) Read under "Help" on prohashing.com for further info and earning possibilities if you choose a single coin to hash.)


Pool settings for prohashing.com: (here you can see mine)
Url : stratum+tcp://prohashing.com:3336   (3336 is for Equihash algorithm that z9 mini calculates)
Worker : imine2   (the username I registered with at prohashing.com)
Password : n=z9mini101   (the "101" stands for machines ip:10.0.1.101 in my home network and it's just a name to identify your machine if you have more then one.)


File: Antminer-Z9-Mini-201805262047-500M.tar.gz
sha-1: 8791eee569dfff728c8363e5d8fd93f68957a2ee
https://ufile.io/fwcqd
(This link goes to the May 26 firmware which I've shared at Uploadfiles.io and should work for 30 days from september 10, 2018!)


Donations - I hope all my hard work will help up your earnings:

Bitcoin (BTC): 1HY5ZvPvx3fx5iA5cQKjw9ZuArse2STuCb
Litecoin (LTC): LZPmxZdoe8ZNL8av5CkPPBEEBJVdoFQbS6
Zcash (ZEC): t1d35jvkzKcWybpCqojZmgDZkcFC7iBwe8w
Monero (XMR): 48gVGMbZsAD5xtbpEpBKTJiDz6uMrnkTxjMcJGGFtore7i7wckSqmvYKfPVGQGab6U9kK76nGa91fhL SDvPfK4bYKkJaXeW

Do you earn more on Prohashing then Mining Pool Hub?... I have been wondering where the best place is to point my Z9's ..
Will Prohashing mine on Autoswitch?. BTCP, HUSH , XEC, ZCL, Ect and payout in BTC?
Thanks

Any idea where to get this firmware :

2. Sun Aug 12 17:43:41 CST 2018 = ? ? ?

newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
September 17, 2018, 11:54:07 AM
Any package is overclocked. But this is not an easy decision.

https://ibb.co/m91BaK
https://ibb.co/dkAhhz
What is the power consumption at 900Mhz and 20Ksol?
jr. member
Activity: 81
Merit: 2
September 17, 2018, 10:22:03 AM
Do you know with a 750 the miner is slower than 700 ?

when I set up Z9 mini at 700 I get 15.5 Kh/s while at 750 14.5 Kh/s !
This is not correct. You need to be looking at the average hashrate taken over a long period of time, I assume you are either looking at the current hashrate (it fluctuates quite a bit) or not giving enough time to calculate an accurate average.
my average at 750 is 16.95 Ksols/s over the past 24 hours. Sometimes into the 17s

Actually he is correct. Every batch 2 i have played with either has a reduced hashrate or none at all when running at 750. Personally I cant push mine past 675 without dropping boards.
Another thought I had is that the hashboards could be self throttling if the temps are too high at 750. Otherwise I could be wrong, i'll experiment with 700 for a day or so & then report back if I remember.

Are you talking about batch 2 or batch 3, because my batch 3 is working stable on 725 for more than 24hour hashing avg. 15.8 kh/s

I'm talking about batch 1, my batch 2s fail if I even attempt that. I don't know what to tell you, I let it run at 700 over the weekend and am getting 15.45 MH/s average as opposed to the mid 17 range on 750 as expected. If yours is running slower on 750 it's probably a temp issue or something. Sorry I can't be more helpful.
jr. member
Activity: 68
Merit: 6
September 16, 2018, 10:05:02 PM
I just got my ship notification on my mini from Sep 20-30 batch. I ordered within an hour or two of the batch going live though so i'm probably one of the first.
legendary
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September 16, 2018, 07:45:02 PM


** so this is what bitmain has on thier page https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=000201809111803105065Lb6UvUc068A

APW3++

Quote
The APW3++ can deliver a maximum power of only 1200W if it is connected to a 110V mains power supply. To obtain the rated power of 1600W, the APW3++ must be connected to a 220-240V

APW7

Quote
"The APW7 can deliver a maximum power of only 1000W if it is connected to a 110V mains power supply. To obtain the rated power of 1800W, the APW7 must be connected to a 220-240V"


so if you are using 110 vs then you should get the APW3++ which give you 1200w . if you are using 220v then you should get APW7 as it gives you 1800w instead of 1600w.
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 6643
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September 16, 2018, 07:37:42 PM

Is it dangerous to connect multiple ASICs from one PSU?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


it's the other way around. it is dangerous to connect multiple PSUs to a single ASIC.  you can connect as many asics you want to a PSU as long as both your PSU and the 6pin connected can handle the power needed. from a theoretical point of view you can have 4 z9 minis connected to 1 APW 1600w psu ( each z9 mini takes about 350w if not overclocked" ). how ever i would not do that until i verify that the 6 pin connectors which are going to be split can actually handle the load.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/can-asics-kills-power-supplies-1739630


You don't want to run your engine on max RPM to loong.

It's the same with PSU's.


this is completely based on your own or someone else's speculations and it has no solid proof what so ever, the max you see on the label is the safe point which a good psu should handle all day long. I have been pulling about 970w of  a 1000w psus on my rigs for years and zero problems, it all comes down to the room ventilation and the quality of your PSU. bitmain psu is a solid psu. i have some A3 and S9s slightly over clocked consuming close to 1500 for ages and never a problem with the PSU. you can test it out yourself if you like.  

Yep, agreed. I haven't had any problems with my Z9 running at max settings. Bitmain left lots of room for tuning in these things.


in the link I gave this one is on page 2:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17440217

And this one:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17440489

You guys are correct!!!
The Label doesn't give the full answer !!!

For all the people who read your answer's they might not know as much as you guys.

Do they have 120V or 240V?
50Hz or 60Hz ?
Does it matter ?

Do you RECOMMEND that everyone push their PSU's to the limit according to the label on their PSU's whatever brand, age (manufacturing year), earlier usages if not new from the store, voltage, ... Huh

If not, WHY ?

Everything will always go well until it goes wrong !!!


you don't have to push your PSU to the limit if you don't have to Cheesy. also you do not want a lot of spare power sitting there doing nothing when you have to buy another psu ! . if there is a room on your psu which you can use then just use it.

I don't have a 120v circuit i think only people in the U.S and a few other countries have that old power infrastructure. i don't know how much exactly in WATS you would be able to pull from APW psu but i am sure it is not 1600w. i think 1200w is the BEST you could wish for but then dyor regarding that matter.

assuming you can get a 1200w of it, then it's safe to say that you can consume 1200w from it , all year long Cheesy.



 
jr. member
Activity: 98
Merit: 4
September 16, 2018, 12:22:07 PM

Is it dangerous to connect multiple ASICs from one PSU?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


it's the other way around. it is dangerous to connect multiple PSUs to a single ASIC.  you can connect as many asics you want to a PSU as long as both your PSU and the 6pin connected can handle the power needed. from a theoretical point of view you can have 4 z9 minis connected to 1 APW 1600w psu ( each z9 mini takes about 350w if not overclocked" ). how ever i would not do that until i verify that the 6 pin connectors which are going to be split can actually handle the load.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/can-asics-kills-power-supplies-1739630


You don't want to run your engine on max RPM to loong.

It's the same with PSU's.


this is completely based on your own or someone else's speculations and it has no solid proof what so ever, the max you see on the label is the safe point which a good psu should handle all day long. I have been pulling about 970w of  a 1000w psus on my rigs for years and zero problems, it all comes down to the room ventilation and the quality of your PSU. bitmain psu is a solid psu. i have some A3 and S9s slightly over clocked consuming close to 1500 for ages and never a problem with the PSU. you can test it out yourself if you like.  

Yep, agreed. I haven't had any problems with my Z9 running at max settings. Bitmain left lots of room for tuning in these things.


in the link I gave this one is on page 2:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17440217

And this one:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17440489

You guys are correct!!!
The Label doesn't give the full answer !!!

For all the people who read your answer's they might not know as much as you guys.

Do they have 120V or 240V?
50Hz or 60Hz ?
Does it matter ?

Do you RECOMMEND that everyone push their PSU's to the limit according to the label on their PSU's whatever brand, age (manufacturing year), earlier usages if not new from the store, voltage, ... Huh

If not, WHY ?

Everything will always go well until it goes wrong !!!
newbie
Activity: 87
Merit: 0
September 16, 2018, 10:59:53 AM

Is it dangerous to connect multiple ASICs from one PSU?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


it's the other way around. it is dangerous to connect multiple PSUs to a single ASIC.  you can connect as many asics you want to a PSU as long as both your PSU and the 6pin connected can handle the power needed. from a theoretical point of view you can have 4 z9 minis connected to 1 APW 1600w psu ( each z9 mini takes about 350w if not overclocked" ). how ever i would not do that until i verify that the 6 pin connectors which are going to be split can actually handle the load.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/can-asics-kills-power-supplies-1739630


You don't want to run your engine on max RPM to loong.

It's the same with PSU's.


this is completely based on your own or someone else's speculations and it has no solid proof what so ever, the max you see on the label is the safe point which a good psu should handle all day long. I have been pulling about 970w of  a 1000w psus on my rigs for years and zero problems, it all comes down to the room ventilation and the quality of your PSU. bitmain psu is a solid psu. i have some A3 and S9s slightly over clocked consuming close to 1500 for ages and never a problem with the PSU. you can test it out yourself if you like. 

Yep, agreed. I haven't had any problems with my Z9 running at max settings. Bitmain left lots of room for tuning in these things.
jr. member
Activity: 48
Merit: 4
September 16, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
Does anybody know a method how to raise / change the voltage for the ASIC chips?
I would like a software solution, not a hard (physical) mod. (as we have at the S9 for example)
thanks

no can do, you will need to mess with the hardware to achieve this. bitmain has locked it down. it can be done and some have done it to achieve 20k sols but u better have a electrical engineering background or a good buddy who does and some equipment too.
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 6643
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September 16, 2018, 08:56:29 AM

Is it dangerous to connect multiple ASICs from one PSU?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


it's the other way around. it is dangerous to connect multiple PSUs to a single ASIC.  you can connect as many asics you want to a PSU as long as both your PSU and the 6pin connected can handle the power needed. from a theoretical point of view you can have 4 z9 minis connected to 1 APW 1600w psu ( each z9 mini takes about 350w if not overclocked" ). how ever i would not do that until i verify that the 6 pin connectors which are going to be split can actually handle the load.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/can-asics-kills-power-supplies-1739630


You don't want to run your engine on max RPM to loong.

It's the same with PSU's.


this is completely based on your own or someone else's speculations and it has no solid proof what so ever, the max you see on the label is the safe point which a good psu should handle all day long. I have been pulling about 970w of  a 1000w psus on my rigs for years and zero problems, it all comes down to the room ventilation and the quality of your PSU. bitmain psu is a solid psu. i have some A3 and S9s slightly over clocked consuming close to 1500 for ages and never a problem with the PSU. you can test it out yourself if you like. 
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