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legendary
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November 25, 2023, 06:40:21 AM
#31
That sounds very interesting, an exclusive area. I did not know (and am fairly sure most of us did not know) that members that donated have their own private section of the forum. Why is/was it controversial for staff members to participate in that private section? Personally, if donors participated in a nefarious activity of any kind and it needed to have intervention of staff to lock or remove threads, or merge posts then maybe their presence was required but I am not privy to what was being discussed at the time.

As a Donator I can tell you that we have our own exclusive section of the forum (which controversially staff members are also able to participate in) and there are a few Donators such as myself that occasionally post things in there. A quick glance at that section looks like TradeFortress was that last VIP to post anything in there.
legendary
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November 25, 2023, 04:08:43 AM
#30
what are you saying in Essence?? That ofcourse anyone could donate because it was cheap?? Weren't they aware of the increase in value of the currency in the near future?? WHY DIDN'T YOU MINE AND DONATE YOURSELF since it was that easy?
I don't see anything wrong in what Lucius said. The donators do deserve thanks, but I wouldn't take the respect away, regardless of the value of the donated coins at the time. There are no problems with the rest of his post. Bitcoin was cheap at that time compared to today's standards. It was minable with A CPU and later with GPU. And finally, the mining reward was 50 BTC per block. I don't think anyone could anticipate that the price would explode and rise so drastically a decade ago.

And regarding the 'not mining yourself' part, he probably didn't know about BTC at the time, didn't care about it, or didn't think that an experimental digital coin could get so far. He wouldn't be the first to think that way. I laughed at the idea of accepting bitcoin the first time someone suggested it to me for some online work I completed. And that was a very long time ago. If I had, and I hodled those coins until they went up to tens of thousands of dollars, my biggest concern would be whether to take my lambo or helicopter. Wink     
legendary
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November 25, 2023, 03:24:07 AM
#29
What baffles me more is why some of this VIP members later got themselves involved in fraudulent activities, was the donor done initially so that the forum won’t believe them involving in such activities or they later got to know that bitcoin value will continue to increase and the only way to own more of it will be through scamming a lot of people? They have just tarnished their images here and this is despicable of them.

One thing has nothing to do with another.
In fact, they could already be involved in fraudulent activities, and take advantage of the donation to try to become well regarded in the community, in order to obtain advantages for these practices.

Another point is that unfortunately greed has led some people to do everything to earn even more. And when they saw an opportunity in Bitcoin, they created these fraudulent schemes.
hero member
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November 24, 2023, 10:13:32 PM
#28
I learnt that there was a time forum members donated to the forum which fetched them the titles of donator for 10 BTC donors and VIP for 50 BTC donors.
My question is; are there 50 BTC donors who are still in the forum till date. They deserve respect.
I have seen Ognaty and he donated 10 BTC and still in the forum till today, Kudos to him. I want to know if 50 BTC donors are still here.

Where to find name of donors. https://bitcointalk.org/donate.html

You’ve gotten lot of answers to your question and I believe that would have satisfied your inquisitiveness. All those that have donated to the forum in the past needs to be appreciated and we don’t need to mind the worth of BTC then, at least it was a selfless act to the forum and they appreciated it at that time and gave them some tag of respects to their names.

Amazing number of scammers in these lists  Cheesy

Here's some of the most famous ones:

zhoutong - believed to be behind the hack of Bitcoinica, one of the 1st BTC exchange, Roger Ver famously lost 100s of BTC
pirateat40 - architect of the 1st major Bitcoin ponzi scheme, actually served time in a federal penitentiary over it
Goat (now El Cabron) - ran a mining ponzi, a heavy promoter of the pirateat40 ponzi, welched on a few bets
MemoryDealers (Roger Ver) - ran a famous campaign designed to trick the world into mistakenly purchasing BCH by claiming it was "the real Bitcoin"
🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 - already mentioned here, ran at least two different projects in which the loss of 1000s of BTC occurred

What baffles me more is why some of this VIP members later got themselves involved in fraudulent activities, was the donor done initially so that the forum won’t believe them involving in such activities or they later got to know that bitcoin value will continue to increase and the only way to own more of it will be through scamming a lot of people? They have just tarnished their images here and this is despicable of them.
legendary
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November 24, 2023, 09:38:34 PM
#27
Amazing number of scammers in these lists  Cheesy

Here's some of the most famous ones:

zhoutong - believed to be behind the hack of Bitcoinica, one of the 1st BTC exchange, Roger Ver famously lost 100s of BTC
pirateat40 - architect of the 1st major Bitcoin ponzi scheme, actually served time in a federal penitentiary over it
Goat (now El Cabron) - ran a mining ponzi, a heavy promoter of the pirateat40 ponzi, welched on a few bets
MemoryDealers (Roger Ver) - ran a famous campaign designed to trick the world into mistakenly purchasing BCH by claiming it was "the real Bitcoin"
🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 - already mentioned here, ran at least two different projects in which the loss of 1000s of BTC occurred
hero member
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November 22, 2023, 06:59:05 PM
#26

Will you say the expectation then was that bitcoin could get as high as $1k or $5k within the coming years?

Every bitcoiner, either short term or long term holder will hope and expect that way. Who would want to increase their holdings when you just holding it anyway. Also, isn't that how holders expect that's why they keep buying and holding?
legendary
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November 22, 2023, 05:51:06 PM
#25
Will you say the expectation then was that bitcoin could get as high as $1k or $5k within the coming years?

Yes, that was more or less what was expected. Even so, it was the most optimistic who pointed to these values.
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November 22, 2023, 04:24:31 PM
#24
Perhaps it would be better to say that they deserve thanks, but you also have to take into account the time in which these donations happened - which was mostly at a time when the price of BTC was very low, and people were mining with their computers and for each block received as much as 50 BTC reward.
what are you saying in Essence?? That ofcourse anyone could donate because it was cheap?? Weren't they aware of the increase in value of the currency in the near future?? WHY DIDN'T YOU MINE AND DONATE YOURSELF since it was that easy?

The one thing that's certain is that they GAVE without regrets... I believe it's part of the forum's networth today.. apparently, you don't need to have much to give - it's all about how compassionate you are...

to the donators; y'all planted a seed that's been helpful... Y'all deserve some more accolade and respect - I believe that's the reason why y'all have 'em tags on.

It's not just about TF alone; haven't I read a thread from long ago when OGnasty made away with a huge cash from the forum's treasury? And Theymos ignored him since he was previously in control?... That's exactly what I read and I'm saying it without any hard feelings...

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- Jay -
November 22, 2023, 04:12:00 PM
#23
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Certainly. That is why I used a conservative multiplication rate of $500 to $5,000. This is a 10x return on investment and if we take an average price of $100 in 2013 that is just bitcoin going up to $1k.

Will you say the expectation then was that bitcoin could get as high as $1k or $5k within the coming years?

- Jay -
legendary
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November 22, 2023, 03:58:26 PM
#22
I would not "remember" to donate today, but the donators of the past did not just give the fiat value of their donations but they also gave the potential value. Holders at that very early stage certainly had an understanding of Bitcoin and expected that the price of one unit of it was going to be worth a lot, so they held it and supported its forum.
They know there was a chance that $500 or $1,000 will get to $5k or $10k but still donated it either way.

- Jay -

When I joined the forum in 2013, there was optimism regarding the appreciation of Bitcoin, but it was not very common for someone to have the expectation that one day Bitcoin would be worth 60k as it already was. Today this is a little different. Of course, there were certainly some who had this hope, but the value at the time was very low, and therefore it was difficult to predict such an increase.
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November 22, 2023, 03:45:17 PM
#21
Logically, nowadays, few would "remember" to donate 10BTC.
We have to think about the monetary value that was being donated at the time. $10, $25, $50, $500 or $1000? Probably that, so it was logical donations for height. Today the same type of values could also be logical, but it would no longer reach 10BTC.
I would not "remember" to donate today, but the donators of the past did not just give the fiat value of their donations but they also gave the potential value. Holders at that very early stage certainly had an understanding of Bitcoin and expected that the price of one unit of it was going to be worth a lot, so they held it and supported its forum.
They know there was a chance that $500 or $1,000 will get to $5k or $10k but still donated it either way.

- Jay -
legendary
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November 22, 2023, 03:25:01 PM
#20
Wow.. I respect you sir for donating 10 BTC.
If I may ask you, would you have been able to donate 10 BTC if was now?
Because I know too well that now the price has increased so badly nobody at this current economy crisis will release 10btc except the person has 1k to 100k BTC. I do imagine how hard it's to have the least of 1 BTC today to have donated 10 BTC.

Logically, nowadays, few would "remember" to donate 10BTC.
We have to think about the monetary value that was being donated at the time. $10, $25, $50, $500 or $1000? Probably that, so it was logical donations for height. Today the same type of values could also be logical, but it would no longer reach 10BTC.



Stats on active & merit status of Donators & VIPs

A painful fact is many VIP/ Donator member accounts got hacked, changed hands, turned to scammers or left the forum.

Thanks for sharing this link. I didn't know it and it has very interesting information.  Wink
legendary
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November 22, 2023, 02:48:32 PM
#19
Stats on active & merit status of Donators & VIPs

A painful fact is many VIP/ Donator member accounts got hacked, changed hands, turned to scammers or left the forum.
Ay!  Not sure if I ever took notice of that thread, so thanks for linking to it.

For as long as I've been here I've apparently been unaware that there was that much turnover of Donator/VIP accounts--though it probably shouldn't come as a shock to me.  Account selling was very much tolerated up until the point where people started to realize how harmful it could be, and there was that huge hack back in 2017 from whence so many bounty shitposters got the seed to start their horrible careers.

Jesus, I think I remember that whole thing going down from my lurking days.  That's definitely a username I'm familiar with, whereas many of the other ones don't even ring the faintest of bells.
jr. member
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November 22, 2023, 10:38:31 AM
#18
As a Donator I can tell you that we have our own exclusive section of the forum (which controversially staff members are also able to participate in) and there are a few Donators such as myself that occasionally post things in there. A quick glance at that section looks like TradeFortress was that last VIP to post anything in there.

Wow.. I respect you sir for donating 10 BTC.
If I may ask you, would you have been able to donate 10 BTC if was now?
Because I know too well that now the price has increased so badly nobody at this current economy crisis will release 10btc except the person has 1k to 100k BTC. I do imagine how hard it's to have the least of 1 BTC today to have donated 10 BTC.
legendary
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November 22, 2023, 07:52:22 AM
#17
Get a list of those members that was given by LoyceV.
It looks like users lose their Donator status when they get banned. See Alwaysmining's profile. I didn't know that.
I remember theymos wrote somewhere that for some solid reasons, he can take down a VIP or donator status. Let me find it for you.

Still finding but not find it yet. Probably my memory is about honorable VIP member that can be taken down by theymos. For actually donated VIP members, the badge stays forever.

About the banned case you listed, is it a glitch?
I really believe it is a glitch because logically a banned VIP or donator account can not lose the badge. A banned account can be better than a scammer account.

See.
My current policy is to not remove scammers from https://bitcointalk.org/donate.html , so you can compare that list to the list of scammers. Note that I also don't update names on https://bitcointalk.org/donate.html when the names change. For example, "Goat" is in the donate.html list, but his forum name is "Chaang Noi (Goat) ช้างน้อย".

Maybe they didn't donate 50 BTC but were gifted the VIP status because of their contribution to Bitcoin and the forum.

Right. I posted about this somewhere when I did it.

IIRC MagicalTux also got VIP without paying 50 BTC because he contributed significant resources in other ways.

MagicalTux got "free" VIP status for hosting the forum for a long time, too. I think that him plus Hal are the only free donator statuses I gave out. You'd have to do something pretty extraordinary to convince me to give out another free one.

I don't see any point in donating 5 BTC now and then 5 BTC later. You won't get Donator status until you've donated a total of at least 10 BTC. It'd be better for you to earn interest on the 5 BTC somewhere until you're ready to pay 10 BTC. The forum isn't in need of money.

I gave Hal a VIP tag even though he didn't donate because he is nearly as much of a Bitcoin legend as Satoshi IMO. He received the first-ever Bitcoin transaction, and he's been contributing to Bitcoin since before 0.1 was released.

Some honorable VIP members, like Hal Finney, not in the donation page.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mtgox-support-42942
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/magicaltux-2134

As a Donator I can tell you that we have our own exclusive section of the forum (which controversially staff members are also able to participate in) and there are a few Donators such as myself that occasionally post things in there. A quick glance at that section looks like TradeFortress was that last VIP to post anything in there.

It is a confirmation for OgNasty's post above.
There is now a forum section accessible only to donators/VIPs.
legendary
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November 22, 2023, 07:17:52 AM
#16
Get a list of those members that was given by LoyceV.
It looks like users lose their Donator status when they get banned. See Alwaysmining's profile. I didn't know that.
hero member
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November 22, 2023, 05:52:54 AM
#15
Legendary profiles of bitcointalk. Not all of those legendary profiles are VIP or donator members but some of them are.

🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 is a famous scammer. Some scammers are here too List of Major Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses.

This year is a sixth year when a last donator donated BTC to Bitcointalk forum. It is about six years and a half.
Thanks to Claymore, the first Donator in quite some time.
Claymore left the forum since 2019.
legendary
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November 22, 2023, 01:56:42 AM
#14
I have seen Ognaty and he donated 10 BTC and still in the forum till today, Kudos to him. I want to know if 50 BTC donors are still here.
If you have time, search manually for the last appearance of the accounts on this list and you will find your answer, or one of the members may do that.

Here is the last post information from the Donators section of the forum. Hopefully I’m not breaking any rules.

This is the first time I know that there is a new hidden board. You've been here for a long time, what motivates you to do that?
donator
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November 22, 2023, 01:07:02 AM
#13
As a Donator I can tell you that we have our own exclusive section of the forum (which controversially staff members are also able to participate in) and there are a few Donators such as myself that occasionally post things in there. A quick glance at that section looks like TradeFortress was that last VIP to post anything in there.
Good to read from you and to also know that there is a section of the forum only available to donators and staff. I guess the lasts post there would be somewhere 2021 Grin. Thanks for your contribution and retained passion in bitcoin and the forum at large .

Here is the last post information from the Donators section of the forum. Hopefully I’m not breaking any rules.

Last post by bg002h
in Re: Happy New Year!
on September 18, 2023, 07:32:24 PM

It appears that maybe it is a little more frequently used than you expected, but most of the recent posts in there are people asking who is still active and what they’re up to these days.
legendary
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November 21, 2023, 06:25:17 PM
#12
Here is the last active record for all the 50 BTC VIP donors and from the record we can find out that Dustin D. Trammel a.k.a. I)ruin was latest active in November while some were last active in 2013 only.

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smart1985-sep 28 2015
Canaca - May 25 2015
casascius-July 11 2023
mndrix-May 25 2015
Als Pawnshop-aug 8 2013
btcx-July 28,2021
Brian DeLoach-dec 26 2011
zhoutong-apr 1 2017
Metabank.ru-Jan 12 2023
BTC_Bear-June 24 2023
pirateat40-March 23 2013
znort987-june 20 2021
jorgen- June 20, 2023,
Graet-October 14, 2014
gigavps-May 20, 2022
cryptoxchange- November 27, 2012
BitAvenue-April 16, 2023
Goat- June 05, 2014
Btc4Domains- November 25, 2017
mrbrown- December 20, 2016
01BTC10- October 24, 2019
imsaguy- January 11, 2023
cablepair- September 09, 2019
BitcoinBaltar- April 27, 2014,
usagi- September 18, 2017
BCB- November 12, 2021,
eb3full- October 31, 2022
MemoryDealers- June 07, 2021
augustocroppo- November 07, 2020,
buzzdave-- August 26, 2020
Dustin D. Trammell a.k.a. I)ruid- November 16, 2023,
XMLGold-October 15, 2020
bitconexfoier- March 05, 2018,
johnascii- January 23, 2013,
Hexadecibel- March 19, 2021
mLiberty- February 18, 2022
lixiaolai- March 19, 2020,
TradeFortress- January 15, 2023
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