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vip
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March 31, 2018, 08:50:42 AM
#29
Dear all,

I know, this is yet another thread about merit, but I’ve been really asking myself if I am doing anything wrong, which is why I had to write this post.

I’ve been quite active on this forum for some time and have struggled to rank up since the new merit system was introduced.

When merit was introduced, I read many threads in which people said that the system would be beneficial for those who would write quality threads and display a decent command of English. I would argue that my posts generally meet these criteria. Of course I sometimes also write short posts (like everyone else on here), but I have also created some quality and helpful content, which sometimes took me up to an hour to write and research. The result is zero to hardly any merit. I sometimes have the feeling that there is simply too much content on this forum in order to get noticed by people who would be able to give you merit or people who could give you merit simply can’t appreciate the content due to their own lack of language skills. While quality seems to remain unnoticed, there are tons of shitposts that receive merit for reasons that are beyond my imagination.

I was therefore wondering if I am doing anything wrong. Is there anything else I can do beyond putting time in my threads and trying to use correct language to get merit?

I would appreciate if you had any advice for me.


I just started with cryptos. I would say that I spend around an hour per day, mostly when I'm on public transportation, since I don't have a lot of free time.

Therein lies the rub.
newbie
Activity: 210
Merit: 0
March 27, 2018, 06:23:50 PM
#28
Dear all,

I know, this is yet another thread about merit, but I’ve been really asking myself if I am doing anything wrong, which is why I had to write this post.

I’ve been quite active on this forum for some time and have struggled to rank up since the new merit system was introduced.

When merit was introduced, I read many threads in which people said that the system would be beneficial for those who would write quality threads and display a decent command of English. I would argue that my posts generally meet these criteria. Of course I sometimes also write short posts (like everyone else on here), but I have also created some quality and helpful content, which sometimes took me up to an hour to write and research. The result is zero to hardly any merit. I sometimes have the feeling that there is simply too much content on this forum in order to get noticed by people who would be able to give you merit or people who could give you merit simply can’t appreciate the content due to their own lack of language skills. While quality seems to remain unnoticed, there are tons of shitposts that receive merit for reasons that are beyond my imagination.

I was therefore wondering if I am doing anything wrong. Is there anything else I can do beyond putting time in my threads and trying to use correct language to get merit?

I would appreciate if you had any advice for me.





We are the same  because I'm newbie also. They said thay posting of quality topic that helps to this forum and for you to get merit.
full member
Activity: 700
Merit: 105
APESWAP
March 27, 2018, 02:33:45 PM
#27
You already got 3merits. It's same way you got those three that you will get others. Or just forget merit as it's being shared amongst friends and well wishers and buyers. Diversify your bounty hunting skills to other areas that rank is not a determinant of payouts. Like blogging and others.
jr. member
Activity: 181
Merit: 4
March 27, 2018, 08:26:22 AM
#26
Dear all,

I know, this is yet another thread about merit, but I’ve been really asking myself if I am doing anything wrong, which is why I had to write this post.

I’ve been quite active on this forum for some time and have struggled to rank up since the new merit system was introduced.

When merit was introduced, I read many threads in which people said that the system would be beneficial for those who would write quality threads and display a decent command of English. I would argue that my posts generally meet these criteria. Of course I sometimes also write short posts (like everyone else on here), but I have also created some quality and helpful content, which sometimes took me up to an hour to write and research. The result is zero to hardly any merit. I sometimes have the feeling that there is simply too much content on this forum in order to get noticed by people who would be able to give you merit or people who could give you merit simply can’t appreciate the content due to their own lack of language skills. While quality seems to remain unnoticed, there are tons of shitposts that receive merit for reasons that are beyond my imagination.

I was therefore wondering if I am doing anything wrong. Is there anything else I can do beyond putting time in my threads and trying to use correct language to get merit?

I would appreciate if you had any advice for me.



Merits system are just an strategical way of ranking, it will be needed a long period of time to earn this merit. It is not also classified as a quality post either you are posting miles of words or fill with hyperlinks, rather is it classified when your post is helping others or it really helps in the forum.
member
Activity: 322
Merit: 23
March 27, 2018, 06:03:50 AM
#25
I agree with you to a point.
Merit system made it harder for some of us to rank up. For those of us who are honest and don't bend the rules to do this because is see that those who farm are still doing their thing. There are many reports of people who receive merits for a one line post of maybe 3 words and they are not punished.
I think that the wise-guys are still doing their thing while we are taking the punishment.  
It is not a matter of 3 words. It is a matter of the content whether it was useful or not. You can answer a thread using only a sentence or even less. You do not need to type a long paragraph to answer a thread when it can be answered with only one sentence. Socrates said "All I know is that I know nothing." That statement is surely full of words and thoughts. So, get to the point and be informative.
Very informative mate, no matter how short your sentence post as long as your statement will contribute knowledge to a sewer in the forum.

OP just keep on posting the thread that having meritable, avoid those shit-threads it is may delete a post by a moderator.
Those sections here in the forum that full of discussion mostly have nonsense and shitpost, just continue to post a good quality post and help the forum from spammers and shitposting.
Or just go to service section there's many threads their giving smerit for those newbie rank to member rank.
hero member
Activity: 2576
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March 27, 2018, 02:32:41 AM
#24
Yes, you were given the same amount as everyone else, but you had the luxury of ranking up first through mere activity. If I am not mistaken you got 250 merits when the system was introduced, of which you can give away half.

The amount of sMerit wasn't that high. I got 250 Merit as a Sr. Member and only 22 sMerit to use.

When a new system is introduced there has to be some way of grandfathering in the existing members. It may not seem particularly fair but there probably wasn't a better way of doing it.


- be more active in other sections of the forum. The altcoins section doesn't seem to be the right place to get noticed
- don't be too European and not inverse dots and commas  Smiley
- make concise rather than lengthy posts
- don't quote unnecessary parts of a post
- support newbies and answer their questions

I'm glad you got some decent advice out of this.
full member
Activity: 280
Merit: 110
March 27, 2018, 02:30:56 AM
#23
It is not a matter of 3 words. It is a matter of the content whether it was useful or not. You can answer a thread using only a sentence or even less. You do not need to type a long paragraph to answer a thread when it can be answered with only one sentence. Socrates said "All I know is that I know nothing." That statement is surely full of words and thoughts. So, get to the point and be informative.

Dude, I reported two times this post "Yes, yesterday he wrote that he had left 9% of his coin" that got 50 merits just for this. Now tell me how much did you have to learn from this post?

Link to the post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28896442

I reported this post over a month ago and it is still there.
jr. member
Activity: 154
Merit: 5
March 27, 2018, 02:06:26 AM
#22

A nice stash of merit? I was given the same amount as everybody else to begin with.

Yes, you were given the same amount as everyone else, but you had the luxury of ranking up first through mere activity. If I am not mistaken you got 250 merits when the system was introduced, of which you can give away half. So the system even favoured shitposters, who were simply lucky to be around a bit longer than newcomers who now create decent Content but struggly to rank up. I am absolutely not saying that you don't deserve the merit you got, since you really seem to care about quality, but a system that is based on seniority alaways creates tensions. It is something that I know very well from work, where people with old contracts earn a lot more money simply because they have been around for a long time but not because they perform better than younger colleagues.

Anyhow, I didn't want to start a general discussion about the merit system but to ask for advice how I can improve. I would thus like to thank those who didn't just tell me random stuff like be more patient, but gave me real feedback. I will in the future thus try the following:

- be more active in other sections of the forum. The altcoins section doesn't seem to be the right place to get noticed
- don't be too European and not inverse dots and commas  Smiley
- make concise rather than lengthy posts
- don't quote unnecessary parts of a post
- support newbies and answer their questions
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 336
March 26, 2018, 07:29:58 PM
#21
This is true, it is going to take time to become knowledgeable and have something to say that stands out. From a quick look at your post history, you are entirely focused on altcoins. This being the Bitcoin Forum may also be a bit of a handicap to you.

There is true and you should follow the advice of the people, like TheQuinn, that know more than you. There is a shortage of merit in sub-sections, which is a point of contention and something we're working to improve as a whole.

We’ll that’s the kind of answers you’d expect from someone who is in the comfortable position to sit on a nice stash of merit. From your perspective it is easy to say that someone shouldn’t worry about merit.
I also grant you that I haven’t been around here for a long time, but definitely not that I haven’t been active. That’s definitely not the kind of “advice” I had hoped for....

A nice stash of merit? I was given the same amount as everybody else to begin with. I do not have any expertise or knowledge that somebody else doesn't have access to. If you are on this forum you have access to every resource and piece of information that I use to formulate my posts and thoughts relating to Bitcoin. Wouldn't it seem to make sense that acting desperate for merit is going to work against you when attempting to acquire merit? Does a hardworking executive or a street beggar make more money? Why? The executive is worried about their company, fulfilling a duty and looking beyond the money. You need to do the same, and set your sights beyond merit. If you are only focused on merit, then your post quality, creativity, opinions and ability to critically think are going to suffer dramatically.

I don't know what kind of advice you are looking for. There is no easy answer for you to earn merit, and again, the best advice I can give you is to stop being worried about merit. I don't know why my perspective on merit is anymore "privileged" than yours, when I had to earn my merit the same as everyone else. The advice you're hoping for is "Give compliments! Make Jokes! Post Memes! = Merit". Either take some real advice, or continue to act like you're above the advice I'm giving you. It seems like you already know everything there is to know and you're just looking for something to verify your already formulated conclusions.
sr. member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 342
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March 26, 2018, 07:14:26 PM
#20
I agree with you to a point.
Merit system made it harder for some of us to rank up. For those of us who are honest and don't bend the rules to do this because is see that those who farm are still doing their thing. There are many reports of people who receive merits for a one line post of maybe 3 words and they are not punished.
I think that the wise-guys are still doing their thing while we are taking the punishment.  
It is not a matter of 3 words. It is a matter of the content whether it was useful or not. You can answer a thread using only a sentence or even less. You do not need to type a long paragraph to answer a thread when it can be answered with only one sentence. Socrates said "All I know is that I know nothing." That statement is surely full of words and thoughts. So, get to the point and be informative.
sr. member
Activity: 616
Merit: 279
March 26, 2018, 12:44:05 PM
#19
I have looked though your posts and they look good, it's just going to be a matter of time until you rank up. Smiley

The alt boards are very low in merit sources, I should know, I'm also mainly posting there...  Embarrassed So, merit will be harder to get there. Too bad people are not realising the land of new opportunities has moved to alts and not BTC.

Another suggestion would be to also post in review threads, this way you will increase your post visibility. You will find these threads in the Bitcoin/Marketplace/Services section of this forum.

I also have a thread for awarding 1 merit to help people rank-up here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vlad230s-one-merit-to-rank-up-review-service-jr-member-and-up-open-3195027
Be sure to give me a visit when you have 9 merits and I'll top you off.  Wink

Yep sorry to say but you have been doing it all wrong. You need to start sucking up to people and you will receive merit in no time. That's how this forum works.

Unfortunately, this is also true but as well as gangs of friends (not only people with alts) that exchange merit between themselves on shit posts...

sr. member
Activity: 826
Merit: 263
March 26, 2018, 12:12:29 PM
#18

Thank you, this has been helpful. I wasn’t aware of the fact that there are events on here that allow you to earn merit. I’ll definitely will watch out for them.

Here is another tip.

Don't quote post in full, especially if they are adjacent. I've got jochico on ignore, so I don't really want to see his posts, but that isn't the main reason. Quoting a long post like that bulks up the thread, and you run the risk of merit awarders just skipping over your reply, so you won't get any merit no matter how good it is.

The most important thing to gain merit is to get your post read, and that isn't the same as having it seen. Once you have got a merit awarder reading your post, then you need quality and legibility to keep him reading it.

Actually if you want to earn the merits. Sender must be in the mood to share the merit first, else your quality post also will not get any merits dude. I some posts with the 1 line and few words contains also grab the merits easily.
Information must short and perfect that kind posts will allow you earn the merit. As well as that you need to choose the section where the merit givers will be roaming around. So technical support and meta are suggestion to make the informative cum statistical data thread.
legendary
Activity: 2814
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March 26, 2018, 11:46:04 AM
#17

Thank you, this has been helpful. I wasn’t aware of the fact that there are events on here that allow you to earn merit. I’ll definitely will watch out for them.

Here is another tip.

Don't quote post in full, especially if they are adjacent. I've got jochico on ignore, so I don't really want to see his posts, but that isn't the main reason. Quoting a long post like that bulks up the thread, and you run the risk of merit awarders just skipping over your reply, so you won't get any merit no matter how good it is.

The most important thing to gain merit is to get your post read, and that isn't the same as having it seen. Once you have got a merit awarder reading your post, then you need quality and legibility to keep him reading it.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 3130
March 26, 2018, 11:40:14 AM
#16
I understand your frustration, but, to be honest, I've read your posts and all are into the altcoin section. As some users have told you, this is going to be difficult for you to earn merits in just one section. I recommend for you to read other sections and cooperate in different kinds of boards here, like press, legal, bitcoin discussion... You can also share your knowledge with newbies on the "Beginners & help" board or in "Technical discussion", where there are many asking for help.
You will need to be more involved here in order to be seen, be read and to earn some merits. I will be honest with you: I've read some of your topics with the initial intention of giving you some merit and I've found nothing remarkable enough, so I've given you anything for the moment.
Besides, begging for merit on the meta section is never the best way of getting them. Just be patient and do not obsess about merit, for it is the worst way you can take. If you just relax and become participative on more sections here, as well as you enjoy writing, reading, learning and sharing, you will increase your merits, for sure, because you write well.
But do not come back here to ask for merits. This is a very big place and it is difficult, sometimes, to be seen. Be patient!
legendary
Activity: 2814
Merit: 2472
https://JetCash.com
March 26, 2018, 11:37:40 AM
#15

Yes, I come from an EU country and we “reverse” points and commas, but I don’t think that this has anything to do with merit. However, I will try to use the US standard in the future since this is an international forum.

Btw thanks for spreading some Brexit hate in this context  Wink

It isn't Brexit hate - it's EU hate - it has destroyed so many countries, and I'm glad to see that it mow appears to have a limited life.

I mentioned the dot and comma issue because, although it is an extremely minor issue, it can slow down a quick scan of a post. I read a lot of posts, partly out of interest, and partly because I want to support this forum via the merit system. Anything that stops my scan to determine the meaning is an annoyance, it can also lead to misunderstandings. I think I saw a post where somebody had sent 1,000 of something when they meant to sent 1.
jr. member
Activity: 154
Merit: 5
March 26, 2018, 11:31:05 AM
#14
member
Activity: 364
Merit: 46
March 26, 2018, 11:24:54 AM
#13
I really doubt this topic belongs here, but at least to help I would like to share this.

If your going to accept my suggestions maybe it may help a little bit.

After this merit system is implemented I was so upset because I know that it will be too hard to rank up in our generation here but time passed by I came of a thinking that "being upset wont help me" so I decided to move on and dont think about getting merits anymore but still contributing good things in the community such as making my post good quality (or at least average), helping other newbies, sharing some useful info's and helping to report those spammers without expecting merits in return.

This is the keys for me to get merits:

-This is the most important for me dont overthink about getting merits, overthinking will just cause stress and you cannot think properly (waste time and lessen your chance of getting merit).

-Be more active, means check all the current activities in the forum there are events in this forum that gives merits by doing a task. I get some merits to those events.

-Continue your good contribution to the community without expecting merit, just think like this (if my post dont get merits its ok but if someone appreciate my post and give merits its better).

-More post, the higher chance of getting merits, this doesnt mean that post count really helps.
This means the more people you help, the more you contribute good things in the community and the more useful information you post, the more users can notice and appreciate you and it has a higher chance of getting merits.

I dont really know if this will help you, but I hope it is.

Additional:-Before creating a topic make sure that you are on the right section, this also help you.
                -Reading all the rules, stickies and important threads can also help you the more knowledge you know
                the more people you can help.
full member
Activity: 484
Merit: 124
March 26, 2018, 11:19:47 AM
#12
Just contribute on this forum and merit will come on you as a BONUS

But if you're intend to get merit , you won't get it until the end of time
jr. member
Activity: 154
Merit: 5
March 26, 2018, 11:16:16 AM
#11
I think you are spending too much time in the alt and bounty sections. Also, I found economics a bit spammy, so I don't go there very often.

Another minor point is your representation of numbers. The dot is used in mathematics to represent a decimal point, and a comma is used to group larger numbers into threes. This means that 1,000 represents one thousand and not just one. For some reason EU countries seem to reverse this, and it is one reason that an EU country can never replace London as a major international financial centre.


Yes, I come from an EU country and we “reverse” points and commas, but I don’t think that this has anything to do with merit. However, I will try to use the US standard in the future since this is an international forum.

Btw thanks for spreading some Brexit hate in this context  Wink
sr. member
Activity: 686
Merit: 250
March 26, 2018, 11:14:45 AM
#10
I agree with you to a point.
Merit system made it harder for some of us to rank up. For those of us who are honest and don't bend the rules to do this because is see that those who farm are still doing their thing. There are many reports of people who receive merits for a one line post of maybe 3 words and they are not punished.
I think that the wise-guys are still doing their thing while we are taking the punishment.  

It simply angers me when I see how low quality is rewarded and I put a lot of effort and time into my writing and people tell me to be patient.
I think our active role will also affect the development of merit. we should be able to do a report and we can do that easily. believe that mod can do everything well. they will filter and ultimately take action against the account that is doing the farming. for me justice and also the lack of spammers should be the ultimate goal and we will feel the existence of a much more comfortable forum and also much better.
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