Topic: (Any Guesses?) Are there many real (unpaid) people still posting here at BCT? - page 2. (Read 1192 times)

Pretty sure there are still a few thousands of them who are not getting paid either because they want to, or because no signature campaign wants to take them due to posting habits, merits, or previous flags.

Ahh Sir Sceptical, if only these anti-sigs thinks the same way as you do.

Signature campaigns have been the forum's bread and butter combo but as it stands the hate for signature campaign members seem to just grow by the day, and I'm not sure if I'm comfortable about it anymore. People stating in their posts that the quality of the forum's gonna shoot up if theymos stopped allowing signature campaigns from happening and the likes have bugged my meta feed for a while now and frankly I just don't understand the hate directed towards people who are given the chance to get paid for doing the same thing they would otherwise do if they aren't.

Matter of fact and this is a keen observation of mine, most shitposters in here aren't even from campaigns, they were those no-sig mfers who push out content shat by ChatGPT or stolen from the bird app to get merits and rise up the ranks, possibly to get signed up on a signature campaign, if they want to shoo shitposters away from this forum I think they should look into that instead of directing their hate against people whose posts are weekly audited and observed for quality.

Absolutely, and it's always been that way as far as I can tell.

I'm currently not in a signature campaign (though I'm a member of Foxpup's merit cycling club, I don't have a post quota) and I spend a hell of a lot of time on the forum every day, whether it's reading through various threads trying to get some news, handing out merits, or just dropping some posts that interest me.  I did not come here to earn money back in 2015, and I'm still not here to earn money.  Sure, if there's a campaign that'll have me, why not get paid for doing what I'd be doing anyway?  Right now there isn't, yet here I am, blabbing away as if I had a crazy character quota.

However, I still think that most newcomers to the forum have been enticed by the prospect of joining a campaign or bounty, which is why merits are still so important.  But whatever; it's been that way for years.

It is easy to not care about signing if you had 1000 btc at 6 bucks a coin.

Sold ½ in December of 2017 grabbing  500 x 19000 = 9.5 million.

then wait til 2021 and sell 200 coins at 65,000 or 13,000,000

thats 22.5 million and you still hodl 300 coins.

There are few people on this site at those levels.

They post for fun and are free from money issues.

What does it matter?
Should people who don't earn from the forum be rated more than people who do?
It's the quality of their post that matters. Some people earn on the forum but they're always ready to help out when you have a technical issue, especially Bitcoin-related.
I have asked many questions where I had issues and both members who earn on the forum and those who don't set me on the right path.

Some people don't earn from the forum but do their bit to make the community grow. They are also educative.
So I don't think people should be separated into earner and non-earner on the forum, it should be based on the quality of posts and their contributions to this community if you must distinguish people.

You can always filter users that have a campaign signatures in their accounts, I don't know if that it will still work but a forum user (I forgot the name) but he/she got a link in his/her account a link to help you ignore users that are participating in a signature campaign. There's still a lot of people that's posting don't do signature campaign, maybe if you've scoured the whole forum you'll probably see a lot of them just enjoying discussing bitcoin related and unrelated stuff. If you want to, you can always ignore users that you think aren't up to your standards when it comes to posting in the forum.

You basically just said what I was saying this whole time.

First off, let me set the record straight, I don't think sig campaign members are in any way whatsoever "exempt" from this, cause I've seen quite a couple shitposters myself, particularly in the gambling section. But the thing is, they don't even account for the greater part of the shitposting population in the forum. They are literally minuscule compared to just how many no-sig shitposters there are. To single out a population of users just so you can feel morally superior about your status as a "no-sig-wearing" (and I'm not saying you're one of them for crying out loud you're in one) is just fucking hypocritical when the only thing that you really got going for yourself is that you're actively and consciously choosing to not get paid for the effort that you put out, which by the way, nobody asked you to do so. Basically to me people who feel so morally superior that they don't wear signatures or join signature campaigns are pretty much just like baby boomers hating on kids for using the latest iPhones.

Again, I'm not saying that sig campaign members aren't to blame, matter of fact a lot of them are, but if we're going to single out a population of people in the forum just so the other can wave their dicks around, I guess two can play at that game.

Some users, maybe more.

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So, you want to say that there is no people in signature campaigns who dish out toilet-worthy content? Maybe in highest paying campaigns - yes. But in general, there is plenty of such people. Either they have no idea what they're talking about, repeating what as already said oreven using AI for their posts.
Ok, I'm not the most tech savvy guy on this forum, but I'm not posting in topics where I don't have enough knowledge or have no interest about subject.
You're right that signature campaign participants don't care what I think about them, same like I don't really care for qhat reasons they come to Bitcointalk. If someone here is for money and not technology and they're posting quality content - that's just great. Not tryng to spread hate on signature campaign members as it would be stupid when I'm wearing paid signature myself.

I didn't wear a signature for most of last year because I wasn't very active and there didn't seem to be many campaigns with low posting quotas available for full members. I somehow got accepted into a well paying mixer campaign and have been involved in a few other campaigns since then, with the only exception being when the Mixy campaign was paused for a while.

Prior to being in a campaign I would talk about crypto and sports on Reddit, Telegram and other forums but since you can make money on Bitcointalk, it made more sense to find a few boards that interest me and dedicate some time to this forum instead.

Still, there are members who post even though they are not paid (not on a campaign). I think these people fall into 3 categories

First, members who have not reached Full Member rank are still active to get merit

Second, members who still hope to receive a campaign in the future will remain active and not leave the forum

Third, members who really like discussing and will continue to discuss whether to join the campaign or not, even if their account is trustworthy or not.

Honestly, you're offending yourself.

Most of the people here who join signature campaigns have a great deal of knowledge about the crypto industry, as Campaign Managers like Hhampuz and Julerz ensure that all their participants aren't here to get money while they dish out toilet-worthy content. And people like me (who have been in this jig for many years now and have become part of signature campaigns in the past and the present) are just as interested as you guys are with the technology of bitcoin. I'm a crypto tech writer for crying out loud.

You're basically looking for things to offend yourself. No signature campaign members care about how you hate them or whatever, what do you care if they are here for the side hustle money and not for the technology? Does that automatically mean that they'd dish out shitty content? NO! Does that also mean that people who don't have signatures post crispy valuable content either? NO!

Matter of fact the hate is misdirected against sig members! If you really wanna purge shitposters you have to look someplace else!

I like your answer because it's straigh and honest. It's true that many here isn't because they like Bitcoin or something similar, but simply because they need money. But still, they pretend that they're interested, come here not justto make money and would continue posting even if signature campaigns would disappear.
But I don't agree with your point about discirmination. Put yourself into perspective ofsomeone who is here not for money, but because they like technology. And people who are making generic posts just for their signature campaign quota is ruining their experience here.

I think it's time we stop this discrimination against people who wear signatures from those who don't. In the first place, and let's be honest about this, a lot of us here wouldn't be doing stuff for the love of bitcoin or to better contribute to the industry, cause that's not gonna pay the bills (not to misconstrue that signature campaigns could pay your bills or whatever), plus it's to be expected especially from a growing social networking platform like bitcointalk to have its own way of monetizing interactions and content, and it just so happened that it's as decentralized as crypto itself.

I get it, it's nice every now and again to do stuff just cause you love it. Frankly speaking if the world doesn't entirely revolve around money or power for sure a lot of us here would've loved to do that too, but many here rely upon these signature campaigns as means to get their side hustle money (and it's not like their content is garbage either I've seen many signature campaign members in the past post valuable nuggets of info and wisdom here) and hating on them just doesn't make you look any better or smarter. If you can't beat them, be happy for them is the name of the game and is all I'm saying.

Partially true, but for me personally, I look for topics that interest me more, if I don't find enough of them, I won't post on arbitrary subjects no matter wearing a paid sig or not. And when I'm bored from forum, I'd go do the naughty things instead.
It's natural honestly, we all need to have something in our hands to play with and keep us busy, or we would try to find something ourselves.

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This kind of reminds me of an advice I gave to my girlfriend's brother, his wife was trying to cheat on him, and since I couldn't tell him directly, I told my girl that her brother needs to buy the wife a dildo, so that she can keep busy when the husband is at work. I think that conversation ended in bed, naked. Typical move from me to start such convo just to get in her pants.😂😂

Probably not. Most people here don’t really have anything worthwhile to say. If the admin bans sig camps, probably more than 90% of the forum traffic will be gone. I don’t blame people tho. There really isn’t much to talk about crypto other than the high fees and some exchange related stuff. There are some developments are going on too apparently but the public isn’t really interested in the technical details of crypto so they can’t really comment on these topics. Still though, I occasionally find some good posts to read.

The forum is kind of entertaining when some major drama happens in the reputation board. Keep reading and you will see what I am talking about eventually. The last event was about a forum user “Ratimov” (renamed his account to “Symmetrick” later on).  If you visit that board you may read some interesting posts there.

The forum also used to be a good place to promote/discuss m**ers but now it is not anymore because they are banned… I am telling you this because these services were providing privacy and privacy is kind of a feature of btc. Now we can’t talk about these services specifically or promote them in any way.

Just because many people say something wrong, it doesn't make it right. By perpetuating it, you are only spreading what is wrong.

Without the signature campaigns, many members would continue to write on the forum but there would be a serious decline in quantity. You can see many members without signatures writing on various topics. They may look few because they don't write very often as others, but in fact there are many users without a paid signature. You can think about what the overall forum will be like by looking at the messages in the sections where posts are not counted for paid signatures.

Forgot ancient lurkers back from the grave on occasion when things may be fun to observe
Hopping in and out like a time machine dorito.
Or you know to update their mental snapshot ... cause things be changing over the years

Oh, now I get where I saw the BCT tag I struggled to mention in my other post yesterday.

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OP, your question on if there are users who post without getting paid – Yes, there are users like that. JJG strikes me as the top on that list and that user doesn't just write, they write a wall of text. I don't know where they get their energy from. Franky is another user, yes? Anyway, I think those who do that are able to do that because they're early adopters and are loaded with Bitcoin. It costs data to be online and if one isn't earning from their activities online, how will one be able to fund the data? This is one of the major reasons users appear to post less when they aren't in campaigns. That's my observation.

I’m guessing not that much at this point, and mostly due to practicality. i mean, if you could get paid doing what you initially do so for free and for principle, imagine how different it would be for you.

Although I’m guessing we still got a couple BCT elitists here and  there who wish to keep the forum free from advertisers despite the fact that these drove them to have so much traffic and impressions on the internet even during bear seasons. But I guess that can’t be helped yeah? And yes shitposters, yadda yadda, we heard of em already, but the thing is, the whole forum’s been stern about these shitposters already, and so were the campaign managers who facilitate these signature campaigns. So rest easy and trust that even with the paid system up and running, the amount of shitposters in this forum’s bound to go down as time goes by.

Not everyone wears a signature. It’s a personal decision. The way I see it, if I can learn from the forum, contribute  my quota and earn satoshis along the way, then it’s all positives for me.

You’re right. It’s a matter of perspective. The gambling board is one of the most active boards on the forum, one reason being that many signature campaigns are sponsored by gambling casinos. It also makes sense to see a lot of activity there because of how popular sport is. I’m a football fan and enjoy the banter in football threads. Some campaign participants take advantage of the traffic in the gambling board to post generic comments in order to complete their post quota. And unlike other boards, these shitposts go unnoticed and are buried in the threads.