Topic: (Any Guesses?) Are there many real (unpaid) people still posting here at BCT? - page 4. (Read 1218 times)

Now, now.  There's no official abbreviation for the forum's name, and I've always used BCT whenever I was too lazy to write the whole thing out.  To each his own, no?  I'm still trying to convince people to put the US dollar sign before the amount, not after (like $5 as opposed to 5$) but it's a losing battle.

The whole reason why there are so many members (and very active ones at that) is precisely because sig campaigns and bounties exist.  If they were banned right now, I'm sure there would be a mass exodus and there wouldn't be nearly as much "discussion" going on.  Bitcointalk would still probably be more active than any altcoin forum, but compared to how it's been since the first sig campaign it'd look like a ghost town.

Also, OP made an excellent suggestion about reading very old threads.  Some of the ones from 2009-2011 are fantastic, and I'm sure there's a lot of good stuff from the pre-sig campaign era for anyone who wants to learn a bit of bitcoin history.

I think that there are few kinds of people that post here:
- Newbies who are genuinely interested in Bitcoin and looking to participate in the forum, either to have their questions answered in the short term or because they are passionate about the movement and want to take part in discussion
- Paid posters who make a living from the hand that feeds them. Unfortunately, there are a lot of them. Just look at the gambling board for obvious examples. There are a lot of shills getting paid to promote the advertiser that also exists in their signature.
- Members who are paid to post, but are here because they love Bitcoin, and enjoy the incentive they get to post and stay involvrd..
- Account farmers who are exploiting the paid posting mechanism.
- Long term holders who are passionate about Bitcoin. Those who are enjoying the experience, and are free enough to spend time here thanks to Bitcoin.

Unfortunately some of these categories do not deserve to be here. Unfortunately there is no way to catch some of them. In any case, why people are here is not the matter, Bitcoin enabled them to be here and that in itself is a beautiful thing, for better and for worse.

Weird question. If you are offered to be on the forum and communicate, and in addition, they give you the privilege of giving you some bonuses for participating here, will you refuse? Just because people aren't involved in subscription companies doesn't mean they're more passionate about Bitcoin than everyone else. The forum welcomes freedom. To participate in the subscription, you need to be on the forum regularly, but some people, like you, OP, may not be here very often.
But what's wrong with those who wear a signature? Are you ready to mark everyone as profit-seekers and nothing more? I doubt that if you see a hundred-dollar bill on the road, you will step over it and move on.
I think you understand what I'm writing about.

Thanks for this... I have always called it BTT all my days here. From the analogy you discussed, BCT best fits. But then if we try to follow the right acronym of bitcoin which is BTC, it will be nice to say BTC best fits but just that it will not be smooth in pronouncing. Howbeit, we do not use audio in the forum.
I visited the reference thread you dropped and discovered that BCT was just slightly above BTCT in the pool.

Sorry for going off topic, but there are things I just can't let go .
No, no, no fucking no. Don't spread nonsense. There's no logic saying BTT.

Let's break down bitcointalk :
Bitcoin Talk
Bit Coin Talk
You can't write Bi Tcoin Talk ?? What does Tcoin mean ?

Do you say MS or MO for Microsoft ?
Do you say VW or VK for Volkswagen ?

And it's already been discussed in the past, the result is indisputable : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poll-btt-bct-btct-5121806

Apart from WO thread where I do not visit frequently, though I noticed some people posting without signature there.
There are other notable people who I noticed during my early days in the forum. I called them the Unsung heroes . In that thread I identified

• Franky1
• DannyHamilton  
• Jay Juangee

It is recently that Philipma1957 started wearing signature.

First, let me correct you, it's either you call it Bitcointalk or BTT, not BCT.

Regarding your question, yes, there are many of them. Just like in many activities of life, people will do things for different reasons. Some are here to learn, some are here to learn and earn, some are here to learn and impart knowledge, while others are here to learn, earn and impact knowledge.

For you to get this distinction among users easily, anyone you see the signature embedded beneath their posts is making money through the forum, and anyone without such signatures is not earning anything at all. For the latter, some situations are also temporary for the fact that they might either not be interested in a campaign yet or they are still searching for one.

There are so many members who post regularly on the forum and they don't get paid for their posting. The ones who are in signature campaigns try their best to make very high-quality posts because they are getting paid for their posting and in a way their posts allow other to see their signature space. The signature campaigns have been on the forum for many years and so far both the members and the ones who run their signature campaigns both have been getting good results.

The ones who aren't in signature campaigns also make good and informative posts. There are many good members in WO thread who doesn't apply any signature on their profile but they make awesome posts. philipma1957 used to be one of those members. He's now applying a signature on his profile but I have seen him doing so many posts without having any signature on his profile.

If I'm not wrong then Phil got into signature campaigns because he wanted to help out Talkimg.com an image hosting site created and hosted by a reputed member of the forum for the members of the forum who were facing issues due to imgur image proxy error. There are some members like JayJuanJee, JetCash, El duderino_, BitcoinBunny, Biodom, OutOfMemory, AlcoHoDL, vapourminer, JimboToronto, Hueristic, and many other good posters who don't apply any signature on their profiles but they make outstanding posts.

I agree in general with the previous answers but I would like to point out that we all know what would happen if for example signature campaigns were banned in the forum, and that is that the traffic would decrease enormously. The WO people would continue as they are now, the other members mentioned who do not wear a paid signature and are not regular WO members would continue as they are now, a small percentage of those who wear a paid signature now would continue to post on the forum, although less, and most of the traffic would go elsewhere.

Just look at what happened to some members of the old CM campaign as soon as they stopped wearing a signature or went from being in a signature campaign that paid for a maximum of 50 posts to one that paid for a maximum of 25 posts per week.

And I'm not criticizing it, eh? It is largely a logical consequence.

The WO's are a case apart because most of them are loaded with Bitcoin, and I would say that most of the other cases cited as well.

I am king of the hill!

I hereby challenge anyone with a lower member id than me who does not wear a paid signature to kick me off!

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As mentioned above, the technical discussion still exists and is centered around the technical discussion board. There is a reason why some signature campaigns ban sub-boards to begin with, likely due to spam. You should at least read a decent post nowadays unless it comes from a bounty hunter.

You can also lurk around the Serious discussion board if you don't want to see spammers, since any post posted there doesn't count toward the post count at all.

You are not only member in Bitcointalk who are still actively in forum, make posts without paid signature.

JayJuanGee
odolvlobo
DannyHamilton

Signatures are disabled in Wall Observer thread but you are right, many posters in Wall Observer thread don't wear any paid signature.

op how many of my 43000 posts were done without a paid signature well over 25000 of them. more than 7 years without a signature. and less than 4 with one.

what you don’t realize is you can look at campaigns and see how long someonehas been been doing a campaign sig.

Do you think only signature participants are willing to post here? Bitcoin is a forum where anyone can post, share their ideas and complain, people are active posting even without the paid campaign way back before. So it's not new, getting paid when posting is just like incentives. You can see them mostly in technical boards where skills and experience  are shared.

Sounds good, thanks everyone for the quick responses. Many of the threads from ~2010, when BTC had literally - or close to - zero usd value are challenging for me technically, but I love it anyway, great stuff.

OP, the forum is not just about posting to get paid; there are still a lot of users making good posts and engaging in healthy discussion without getting paid. JayJuanGee and franky1 are the two users I can mention for now, but if you head on the WO thread that _act_ has mentioned, then you will find the rest of them that are active there but not putting on signature code, therefore not getting paid for making posts.

There will always be - yes, there will be. Signature and spam are related - but spam would also exist without signature. Some famous users who do not use paid signatures are gmaxwell, qwk, Vod, vapourminer, Foxpup and many others - so they will always be there although I don't need to mention them to you one by one.

I guess they all have their own ways of making money - so signature campaigns aren't the only way to get it. I guess many of them are traders, miners and investors - so it's natural that they're not interested in a signature campaign.

Why not?

Perhaps you are watching the wrong boards? Like gambling discussion?
I would say a post is real if they were not wearing a paid signature, and unreal if otherwise. Also know lots of members who wear signatures are their contributions are "real" and those who don't and they are just a nuisance. So it all depends on how you look at it and which boards you are always viewing.

Yes, there are active members who don't get paid for posting, yet they are very active in this Forum. Someone like Vapourminer, JayJuanGee, and many others, who are mostly just active on the wall, observers can see, how active they are there, even when there is no signature displayed there.
 
But are quality posts being graded by you based on the amount that the Poster is being paid? There is no doubt that the pay is what increases the post-quality of many, but also don't forget that when you don't have anything to produce, even if you are being paid a higher amount, nothing can still come out of it.
 
There are people, who are just active on the forum and contributing the way that they can and not minding the payment, and their are still those, who get paid and still giving their best to the Community. Every person has different goals.

I would say that both paid and unpaid people.make good contributions here.

There are very knowledged people here who are checking the technical boards many times a day,  ready to answer questions about bitcoin and to produce good content. Most of them are people who are renting their signature space.

In 2024 there will probably be less signature campaigns,  but I believe most of the best contributors of the forum will stay here. I will.