Topic: Any Lottery players here? Pick 2, Cash 3, Cash 4, Pick 5 numbers in particular. - page 2. (Read 407 times)
December 29, 2022, 02:12:33 PM
Other players study the previous winning numbers and do a comparison of the probability of the number to be chosen next. Even though we all know that the result of the lottery is random, others believe in a certain pattern in how the number is selected. But I still believe as long as the result is not rigged, no one can precisely predict the outcome of the lottery because there is a 1 in 13,983,816 chance to hit the right combination no matter how much they research on the next winning number. Any resemblance to other results is possibly a coincidence.
December 29, 2022, 02:11:59 PM
The main thing is that each time the result is “independent”, there is no memory. Therefore there is no “justice”, past results has no impact on the future one.
You may do statistical analysis, you may believe in “systems”, you may prefer odd or even numbers - all that is just a looking for a patterns where there are no patterns.
Yes, it is interesting to see how many times number 7 was selected in the last 10 years, but it has nothing to do with the predictions.
You may do statistical analysis, you may believe in “systems”, you may prefer odd or even numbers - all that is just a looking for a patterns where there are no patterns.
Yes, it is interesting to see how many times number 7 was selected in the last 10 years, but it has nothing to do with the predictions.
December 29, 2022, 01:54:00 PM
Somewhat agree if the 3/4/5 number system works like it does where I come from (it is based off horse racing results earlier on the same day).
I'm not 100% sure it works exactly the same way, but the numbers drawn are somehow tied to the numbers of the horses that win the day's races. So let's say Horses 2,3 and 7 win top 3 on the main race, then 2,3 and 7 are the pool drawn from for 1st prize.
The window to buy the numbers are closed before the races start but you can already more or less base your picks on horse odds, perhaps in a small window of 5 minutes?
So, not patterns, but "research".
I'm not 100% sure it works exactly the same way, but the numbers drawn are somehow tied to the numbers of the horses that win the day's races. So let's say Horses 2,3 and 7 win top 3 on the main race, then 2,3 and 7 are the pool drawn from for 1st prize.
The window to buy the numbers are closed before the races start but you can already more or less base your picks on horse odds, perhaps in a small window of 5 minutes?
So, not patterns, but "research".
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December 29, 2022, 12:52:54 PM
I believe you can study historical data, patterns and certain numbers follow and hit after certain numbers come out as winners. I would love to discuss theory with anyone who understands this and have any theories of their own.
I am curious why exactly you think this would improve your chances of winning the lottery. all these studies can do is give you the most common numbers that show up on the lottery results, and even if you chose the most common numbers that show up on the winning lottery tickets your chance of winning will still be the same.Luck and chance are to different things.
A gambler can luckily win a bet, or lottery after doing some number calculations or studying, that by luck, he won that lottery does not mean his chances of winning that lottery increased an inch for studying the numbers.
This is what the op does not understand, studying numbers does not move your chances of winning the lottery an inch, it all still depends on how luck chooses to shine on the player.
December 29, 2022, 12:26:28 PM
I believe you can study historical data, patterns and certain numbers follow and hit after certain numbers come out as winners. I would love to discuss theory with anyone who understands this and have any theories of their own.
I am curious why exactly you think this would improve your chances of winning the lottery. all these studies can do is give you the most common numbers that show up on the lottery results, and even if you chose the most common numbers that show up on the winning lottery tickets your chance of winning will still be the same. December 29, 2022, 11:38:03 AM
Let's take the case of the philippine controversial numbers that come out in a lottery where there were over 400 winners
This event occurred because the winning number has pattern which is the common denominator for all the winners. I’m sure those who claim that they dreamed it saw this number combination before that’s why there brain remind them about this combination through the dream.
Using statistics to create a pattern is really useless not just because the result is really pure random and also he/she can experience a tremendous waste of wins like what happened to the 400 winners of the lotto that you mention. Betting on numbers with patterns will surely gonna have the same winner since many people are thinking like this.
Others may have not believed the result but we can't deny the fact that a big number of people could have the same number combination out of nowhere. Filipinos have different mantras and beliefs when it comes to lottery number combinations. Some of them base it on the current events and birthdays of the family members. Some combinations are funny and weird but they keep on using the same numbers with the same hope of winning.
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December 29, 2022, 11:26:18 AM
Let's take the case of the philippine controversial numbers that come out in a lottery where there were over 400 winners
This event occurred because the winning number has pattern which is the common denominator for all the winners. I’m sure those who claim that they dreamed it saw this number combination before that’s why there brain remind them about this combination through the dream.
Using statistics to create a pattern is really useless not just because the result is really pure random and also he/she can experience a tremendous waste of win like what happened on the 400 winners of the lotto that you mention. Betting on numbers with pattern will surely gonna have same winner since many people is thinking like this.
December 29, 2022, 11:17:10 AM
I was in the NBA forum and the subject of lottery numbers came up and I didn't want to hijack that forum and didn't see anything lottery related. The discussion came up that numbers are random and there isn't anyway to improve your chances to win and I disagreed. I believe you can study historical data, patterns and certain numbers follow and hit after certain numbers come out as winners.
It's funny to see this very statement of yours, because if really there was any way to study historical data, patterns and certain numbers win a lottery thrown at random, then mathematicians or statistician would have been the most richest people in the world today, or the set with the most lottery winning history, and not ordinary people just like you and I. Because on this very motion, I strongly stand behind what those people on the NBA forum said that in lottery, there is no formula to improving your chances of winning, than buying more lottery ticket over and over again, because apart from that. No other way. 
December 29, 2022, 10:06:48 AM
I was in the NBA forum and the subject of lottery numbers came up and I didn't want to hijack that forum and didn't see anything lottery related. The discussion came up that numbers are random and there isn't anyway to improve your chances to win and I disagreed. I believe you can study historical data, patterns and certain numbers follow and hit after certain numbers come out as winners. I would love to discuss theory with anyone who understands this and have any theories of their own.
Do you have data that can validate your belief, if you cannot back it up with proven data don't recommend but if you want to prove it yourself, then do make a study out of it, but I assure you there's no proven data that can prove that you can accurately predict the winning numbers, you could be wasting your time, but proceed at your own will, maybe you will discover along the way, if the drawing is fair and beyond reasonable doubts, everything is random and all numbers gave an equal chance of getting drawn, here in our country all balls that with numbers on it for the drawing are weighted and there are observant to see everything is done fair.
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December 29, 2022, 09:34:00 AM
I have played Thai lotto game... where you need to guess 3 numbers.
It is challenging to guess which 3 numbers will be there in the upcoming draw. But still, it is possible, you can guess by looking at papers and historical data which numbers these could be.
I have probably played this game more than 10 times. 2 of which I guessed correctly.
I still remember these numbers which I guessed correctly. Once 852 cross hit. One was 286 straight hit.
It is challenging to guess which 3 numbers will be there in the upcoming draw. But still, it is possible, you can guess by looking at papers and historical data which numbers these could be.
I have probably played this game more than 10 times. 2 of which I guessed correctly.
I still remember these numbers which I guessed correctly. Once 852 cross hit. One was 286 straight hit.
Thank you for verifying what I was trying to say when you have smaller lotteries where there are lower odds you can use historical data to help you guess what the number potentially may be. The research isn't 100% but does increase your chances if you know what the patterns are of course they are random but with smaller games with lower odds it can be done.
Everyone so far is getting caught up on the mega lotteries and the impossibility of winning them. This is already known and not disputed. It appears you are someone that actually plays the smaller lotteries and you understand. There have been responses from some who do not play smaller lotteries so of course they wouldn't understand.
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December 29, 2022, 08:40:38 AM
I was in the NBA forum and the subject of lottery numbers came up and I didn't want to hijack that forum and didn't see anything lottery related. The discussion came up that numbers are random and there isn't anyway to improve your chances to win and I disagreed. I believe you can study historical data, patterns and certain numbers follow and hit after certain numbers come out as winners. I would love to discuss theory with anyone who understands this and have any theories of their own.
Well, I have experiencial knowledge of what you are discussing about, over here in my country, we have alot of them who carry big newspapers-like sheets of paper and call themselves forecasters.This sheets of paper usually contain a very long list of lottery winning numbers usually going as far back as 5 years ago to current date, they believe looking and studying this numbers could help them forecast which numbers are likely to emerge as the winning numbers in today's lottery 😁.
Though the way this people go about this things make it look serious and real, but personally, I've never believed in such, I've never believed that studying previous winning numbers in the lottery could help one predict or stand a better chance at winning the lottery of today, except the lottery is rigged.
December 29, 2022, 08:34:38 AM
I've read a trivia about a Math that has beat the system of lottery and won not just once but IIRC that's for multiple times. I'm not sure if it was her, Joan R. Ginther and according to wikipedia she has won the lottery on four occassions.
And based also on this page.
And based also on this page.
Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_R._Ginther
...According to mathematicians asked by the Associated Press, the odds of winning this many times were one in 18 times 10 to the power 24,[2] but this is apparently a miscalculation.
December 29, 2022, 05:49:04 AM
The lotteries I have seen my family participate in used to draw the numbers on live using a special machine, that machine used air to randomly move the balls (numbers) around until one got selected.
You can perform any statistical analysis on that (implying you can find the whole history of numbers drawn for an specific lottery), but I believe that won't impact your chances to predict the outcome in any significant way, assuming the numbers are actually random and the lottery is not rigged at all. Too much entropy.
In my country, there are lots of lottery gambling enthusiasts, but on average they bet the lottery directly at a place or house, and only a few bet on online sites.You can perform any statistical analysis on that (implying you can find the whole history of numbers drawn for an specific lottery), but I believe that won't impact your chances to predict the outcome in any significant way, assuming the numbers are actually random and the lottery is not rigged at all. Too much entropy.
They are lottery enthusiasts who have a special way or trick to be able to get this lucky number.
Some use day calculations and some even calculate it using a certain formula in which there are numbers that have been issued a few days ago.
However, I was amazed by the calculations or formula, almost every bet they could guess the numbers that actually came out that day.
December 29, 2022, 04:46:02 AM
I have created one topic about this and I tried to find and list all gambling websites with Bitcoin Lottery games, but task was not easy and list is not very big.
There is a problem that some less known websites can always cheat and make fake results, and there is no way to prove lottery numbers are random and fair.
You can visit my topic and if you want you can suggest any new gambling websites that you know have lottery games: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5278167
There is a problem that some less known websites can always cheat and make fake results, and there is no way to prove lottery numbers are random and fair.
You can visit my topic and if you want you can suggest any new gambling websites that you know have lottery games: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5278167
December 28, 2022, 08:00:49 PM
I have played Thai lotto game... where you need to guess 3 numbers.
It is challenging to guess which 3 numbers will be there in the upcoming draw. But still, it is possible, you can guess by looking at papers and historical data which numbers these could be.
I have probably played this game more than 10 times. 2 of which I guessed correctly.
I still remember these numbers which I guessed correctly. Once 852 cross hit. One was 286 straight hit.
It is challenging to guess which 3 numbers will be there in the upcoming draw. But still, it is possible, you can guess by looking at papers and historical data which numbers these could be.
I have probably played this game more than 10 times. 2 of which I guessed correctly.
I still remember these numbers which I guessed correctly. Once 852 cross hit. One was 286 straight hit.
Thank you for verifying what I was trying to say when you have smaller lotteries where there are lower odds you can use historical data to help you guess what the number potentially may be. The research isn't 100% but does increase your chances if you know what the patterns are of course they are random but with smaller games with lower odds it can be done.
Everyone so far is getting caught up on the mega lotteries and the impossibility of winning them. This is already known and not disputed. It appears you are someone that actually plays the smaller lotteries and you understand. There have been responses from some who do not play smaller lotteries so of course they wouldn't understand.
December 28, 2022, 07:44:58 PM
If we talk about "lucky numbers" or numbers that come "while dreaming", then we are not talking about statistics, mathematics or science anymore, don't you think?
Do not misunderstand me, I believe there have been some crazy coincidences and things that could only be explained with non-scientific approaches at first glance. But I believe OP did not mean to talk about supernatural ways to win money.
My theory is that if you present a lot of numbers in front of a group of people, most of them will choose numbers that have some meaning for them: their birthday, the year they got married, the date of the birth of their child, etc. It is just matter of time before people who claimed to have won that way appears.
There is an Simpson episode about it, btw. When Carl flees with the money to Greenland.
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...It is easy to say that the numbers you choose does not mean anything here,it is pure random luck that is needed in colossal doses in order to win,I don't think choosing these numbers will bring you bad or good luck,nothing to do with it and I doubt there is rigging here.
I am inclined to believe in the laws of probabilities, do you have any idea how many people participate in that specific lottery or how many tickets are sold?
That data, together with the number of balls and digits should be enough for you to calculate of chances of someone winning each week.
i agree that is why i don't invest money in mega jackpots. i buy 1 ticket since that is the only way to increase your odds by having a chance as compared to no chance.
i was talking about smaller cash 3 and cash 4 lotteries where the odds are lower you can do things to increase your odds. especially if odds are 1 in 999 for a cash 3 draw. for mega jackpots you have a better chance of finding your car keys in a dark room in a hidden box among 2 millions boxes and picking it with 1 guess. it is virtually impossible which is why i don't invest in mega jackpots.
December 28, 2022, 03:32:50 PM
If we talk about "lucky numbers" or numbers that come "while dreaming", then we are not talking about statistics, mathematics or science anymore, don't you think?
Do not misunderstand me, I believe there have been some crazy coincidences and things that could only be explained with non-scientific approaches at first glance. But I believe OP did not mean to talk about supernatural ways to win money.
My theory is that if you present a lot of numbers in front of a group of people, most of them will choose numbers that have some meaning for them: their birthday, the year they got married, the date of the birth of their child, etc. It is just matter of time before people who claimed to have won that way appears.
There is an Simpson episode about it, btw. When Carl flees with the money to Greenland.
-snip-
...It is easy to say that the numbers you choose does not mean anything here,it is pure random luck that is needed in colossal doses in order to win,I don't think choosing these numbers will bring you bad or good luck,nothing to do with it and I doubt there is rigging here.
I am inclined to believe in the laws of probabilities, do you have any idea how many people participate in that specific lottery or how many tickets are sold?
That data, together with the number of balls and digits should be enough for you to calculate of chances of someone winning each week.
December 28, 2022, 07:06:11 AM
I was in the NBA forum and the subject of lottery numbers came up and I didn't want to hijack that forum and didn't see anything lottery related. The discussion came up that numbers are random and there isn't anyway to improve your chances to win and I disagreed. I believe you can study historical data, patterns, and certain numbers follow and hit after certain numbers come out as winners. I would love to discuss theory with anyone who understands this and have any theories of their own.
People will think it's rigged is fine if it happens once but twice or thrice or many times they should stop the lottery because it's rigged if you checked Youtube there are many tutorials of their hidden secrets on how to win a jackpot in a lottery but these videos are created to generate interest and increase their views.
So far I have never read one winner telling people that he won the jackpot because of the tutorial on Youtube or from a book he purchases on how to win a lottery, these are bogus and the management of the lotteries are here to make sure that the lotteries cannot be manipulated because the lottery system runs on the trust of the betting public.
thanks for your answers but i was talking more in line with cash 2, cash 3, cash 4, cash 5 numbers where the odds are much more obtainable than a mega jackpot lottery where you have a better chance of winning.
my initial inquiry in the subject was asking for info on tips, theories on how to win these types of lotteries where you have a much better increased chance of odds. The best odds you have with a mega jackpot comes from going from buying 1 ticket as compared to not having any tickets at all bought which is what I do for these types of mega lotteries and i rarely play them.
however i win regularly on cash 4 numbers based on past historical data and just plain luck. i'm really not that interested in this thread in mega lotteries since i am also of the opinion buying more than 1 mega lottery ticket is a waste of time and money.
December 28, 2022, 04:16:43 AM
I was in the NBA forum and the subject of lottery numbers came up and I didn't want to hijack that forum and didn't see anything lottery related. The discussion came up that numbers are random and there isn't anyway to improve your chances to win and I disagreed. I believe you can study historical data, patterns, and certain numbers follow and hit after certain numbers come out as winners. I would love to discuss theory with anyone who understands this and have any theories of their own.
People will think it's rigged is fine if it happens once but twice or thrice or many times they should stop the lottery because it's rigged if you checked Youtube there are many tutorials of their hidden secrets on how to win a jackpot in a lottery but these videos are created to generate interest and increase their views.
So far I have never read one winner telling people that he won the jackpot because of the tutorial on Youtube or from a book he purchases on how to win a lottery, these are bogus and the management of the lotteries are here to make sure that the lotteries cannot be manipulated because the lottery system runs on the trust of the betting public.
December 28, 2022, 02:59:17 AM
The lotteries I have seen my family participate in used to draw the numbers on live using a special machine, that machine used air to randomly move the balls (numbers) around until one got selected.
You can perform any statistical analysis on that (implying you can find the whole history of numbers drawn for an specific lottery), but I believe that won't impact your chances to predict the outcome in any significant way, assuming the numbers are actually random and the lottery is not rigged at all. Too much entropy.
You can perform any statistical analysis on that (implying you can find the whole history of numbers drawn for an specific lottery), but I believe that won't impact your chances to predict the outcome in any significant way, assuming the numbers are actually random and the lottery is not rigged at all. Too much entropy.
We use the same technology for our weekly state lottery here where I live,the first price ranges from 10.000 dollars up to 150.000 dollars depending on the number of tickets that are sold.It is a difficult lottery in my opinion 15 out of 90 balls needed to find correctly to win the first prize,I am astonished at every week there is someone who wins it and there is no week without winners.
It is easy to say that the numbers you choose does not mean anything here,it is pure random luck that is needed in colossal doses in order to win,I don't think choosing these numbers will bring you bad or good luck,nothing to do with it and I doubt there is rigging here.
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