Any signatur campaign for wrong negative trust user?

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Quote from: subSTRATA on November 03, 2015, 03:43:26 AM

escrowing shouldnt be seen as a way to earn trust. anyone who goes in with that mindset, imo, is sketchy at best. escrow is something offered as a protective service for other forum members because you are deemed trustworthy by the majority to be trusted with a sum of money. in short, its the other way around; you escrow because you are trusted (and willing to offer your time), not escrow to gain trust.

Quote from: XinXan on November 03, 2015, 04:04:58 AM

Do you really think people see escrowing as a way of gaining trust? They just say that to hide their real intentions, anyone who knows how an escrow works will understand that you need to be trusted in order to be one. Do they really think anyone would use their ''escrowing service'' to scam them? You have to be pretty naive to think so.

I understand what escrow means, and I know it can only be done if you are highly trusted.
but what if someone played for an year, got broke, got corrupted or just wanted to leave a life behind. Why will they not do it?

I mean someone with bad intention, good social engineering skills, and knowledge can pull it off

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Quote from: XinXan on November 03, 2015, 04:04:58 AM

Quote from: subSTRATA on November 03, 2015, 03:43:26 AM

Quote from: graphicx on November 03, 2015, 03:21:26 AM

Quote from: subSTRATA on November 03, 2015, 03:09:45 AM

i dont even know why people seem so eager to escrow other than to pull off a scam, escrowing deals seems more of a hassle; if something goes wrong with the deal its your responsibility to resolve the issues, and if you mess up somewhere its up to you to reimburse the parties affected.

Imagine someone doing escrow 10 times successfully.
People on 11th time will go to him
escrow is the fastest way to earn trust imo than just trading and posting around board

escrowing shouldnt be seen as a way to earn trust. anyone who goes in with that mindset, imo, is sketchy at best. escrow is something offered as a protective service for other forum members because you are deemed trustworthy by the majority to be trusted with a sum of money. in short, its the other way around; you escrow because you are trusted (and willing to offer your time), not escrow to gain trust.

Do you really think people see escrowing as a way of gaining trust? They just say that to hide their real intentions, anyone who knows how an escrow works will understand that you need to be trusted in order to be one. Do they really think anyone would use their ''escrowing service'' to scam them? You have to be pretty naive to think so.

at the very least, i think a small portion of people who try to offer these services do. and by that, i mean a very small portion. i have no doubt the majority "offer" these services with the intent to scam, but people exist that are naive enough to believe they can be trusted.

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Quote from: subSTRATA on November 03, 2015, 03:43:26 AM

Quote from: graphicx on November 03, 2015, 03:21:26 AM

Quote from: subSTRATA on November 03, 2015, 03:09:45 AM

i dont even know why people seem so eager to escrow other than to pull off a scam, escrowing deals seems more of a hassle; if something goes wrong with the deal its your responsibility to resolve the issues, and if you mess up somewhere its up to you to reimburse the parties affected.

Imagine someone doing escrow 10 times successfully.
People on 11th time will go to him
escrow is the fastest way to earn trust imo than just trading and posting around board

escrowing shouldnt be seen as a way to earn trust. anyone who goes in with that mindset, imo, is sketchy at best. escrow is something offered as a protective service for other forum members because you are deemed trustworthy by the majority to be trusted with a sum of money. in short, its the other way around; you escrow because you are trusted (and willing to offer your time), not escrow to gain trust.

Do you really think people see escrowing as a way of gaining trust? They just say that to hide their real intentions, anyone who knows how an escrow works will understand that you need to be trusted in order to be one. Do they really think anyone would use their ''escrowing service'' to scam them? You have to be pretty naive to think so.

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Quote from: graphicx on November 03, 2015, 03:21:26 AM

Quote from: subSTRATA on November 03, 2015, 03:09:45 AM

i dont even know why people seem so eager to escrow other than to pull off a scam, escrowing deals seems more of a hassle; if something goes wrong with the deal its your responsibility to resolve the issues, and if you mess up somewhere its up to you to reimburse the parties affected.

Imagine someone doing escrow 10 times successfully.
People on 11th time will go to him
escrow is the fastest way to earn trust imo than just trading and posting around board

escrowing shouldnt be seen as a way to earn trust. anyone who goes in with that mindset, imo, is sketchy at best. escrow is something offered as a protective service for other forum members because you are deemed trustworthy by the majority to be trusted with a sum of money. in short, its the other way around; you escrow because you are trusted (and willing to offer your time), not escrow to gain trust.

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Quote from: subSTRATA on November 03, 2015, 03:09:45 AM

i dont even know why people seem so eager to escrow other than to pull off a scam, escrowing deals seems more of a hassle; if something goes wrong with the deal its your responsibility to resolve the issues, and if you mess up somewhere its up to you to reimburse the parties affected.

And this is why people should be treated with extreme suspicion and left negative unless they are already very trusted. Escrow is extremely time consuming and for little to no reward so why would most people even want to offer this service for free unless they were just going to scam? Escrow should be something you fall into naturally over time and not something you set up to do from the start.

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Quote from: xinzark on November 03, 2015, 02:59:45 AM

Yeah some escrow also does this. But not all
We can still find many trusted and professional escrows like master-p, monbux, devthedev, escrow.ms etc who proved to be extremely trusted in the entire forum
So that's why while choosing escorw we have to take care on what type of escorw we should use
If amount is less then we are good to go with any and if big then there are only few of them which I mentioned

Thank you for naming those few. I might need them in future

Quote from: XinXan on November 03, 2015, 03:04:51 AM

You need more than a year for a hero account and you wont be able to escrow even if you have one, people buy accounts mostly for signature campaigns or because they got negative trust on their other accounts like OP did.

Still, someone with no talent can make 10 different accounts, establish them for 3-4 months and sell them for profit.
Adding positive trusts on all of them
making new accounts every month will give him a consistent earning
If those accounts sell for $30 each, it's worth it for someone with no knowledge or talent.

Quote from: subSTRATA on November 03, 2015, 03:09:45 AM

i dont even know why people seem so eager to escrow other than to pull off a scam, escrowing deals seems more of a hassle; if something goes wrong with the deal its your responsibility to resolve the issues, and if you mess up somewhere its up to you to reimburse the parties affected.

Imagine someone doing escrow 10 times successfully.
People on 11th time will go to him
escrow is the fastest way to earn trust imo than just trading and posting around board

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I thing not anyone accepting negative trust user. The solution is that make a new bitcoin talk account, raise your activity and then apply on campaign !

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Quote from: XinXan on November 03, 2015, 03:04:51 AM

Quote from: graphicx on November 03, 2015, 01:58:28 AM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on November 02, 2015, 05:54:12 PM

Quote from: graphicx on November 02, 2015, 05:14:36 PM

Quote from: XinXan on November 02, 2015, 03:25:06 PM

It is not illegal to buy or sell accounts but it does not matter, the point is that he was scamming on his alt account and now he is complaining that he got negative trust on this other account which now makes no sense.

isn't it always against rules to buy/sell/trade forum accounts?

It isn't on this forum, though I find it extremely sketchy.

that's odd.
people will only have to invest some time and they are good to go.
they can even become hero, get positive trust and scam escrow

You need more than a year for a hero account and you wont be able to escrow even if you have one, people buy accounts mostly for signature campaigns or because they got negative trust on their other accounts like OP did.

i dont even know why people seem so eager to escrow other than to pull off a scam, escrowing deals seems more of a hassle; if something goes wrong with the deal its your responsibility to resolve the issues, and if you mess up somewhere its up to you to reimburse the parties affected.

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Quote from: graphicx on November 03, 2015, 01:58:28 AM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on November 02, 2015, 05:54:12 PM

Quote from: graphicx on November 02, 2015, 05:14:36 PM

Quote from: XinXan on November 02, 2015, 03:25:06 PM

It is not illegal to buy or sell accounts but it does not matter, the point is that he was scamming on his alt account and now he is complaining that he got negative trust on this other account which now makes no sense.

isn't it always against rules to buy/sell/trade forum accounts?

It isn't on this forum, though I find it extremely sketchy.

that's odd.
people will only have to invest some time and they are good to go.
they can even become hero, get positive trust and scam escrow

You need more than a year for a hero account and you wont be able to escrow even if you have one, people buy accounts mostly for signature campaigns or because they got negative trust on their other accounts like OP did.

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Quote from: graphicx on November 03, 2015, 01:58:28 AM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on November 02, 2015, 05:54:12 PM

Quote from: graphicx on November 02, 2015, 05:14:36 PM

Quote from: XinXan on November 02, 2015, 03:25:06 PM

It is not illegal to buy or sell accounts but it does not matter, the point is that he was scamming on his alt account and now he is complaining that he got negative trust on this other account which now makes no sense.

isn't it always against rules to buy/sell/trade forum accounts?

It isn't on this forum, though I find it extremely sketchy.

that's odd.
people will only have to invest some time and they are good to go.
they can even become hero, get positive trust and scam escrow

Yeah some escrow also does this. But not all
We can still find many trusted and professional escrows like master-p, monbux, devthedev, escrow.ms etc who proved to be extremely trusted in the entire forum
So that's why while choosing escorw we have to take care on what type of escorw we should use
If amount is less then we are good to go with any and if big then there are only few of them which I mentioned

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on November 02, 2015, 05:54:12 PM

Quote from: graphicx on November 02, 2015, 05:14:36 PM

Quote from: XinXan on November 02, 2015, 03:25:06 PM

It is not illegal to buy or sell accounts but it does not matter, the point is that he was scamming on his alt account and now he is complaining that he got negative trust on this other account which now makes no sense.

isn't it always against rules to buy/sell/trade forum accounts?

It isn't on this forum, though I find it extremely sketchy.

that's odd.
people will only have to invest some time and they are good to go.
they can even become hero, get positive trust and scam escrow

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Quote from: Karpeles on November 02, 2015, 07:56:30 PM

Only yobit and scratchticket.

Why no one remember about the scratchticket campaign?

because that campaign almost pay nothing, their rates are very very low and AFAIK you cant even get .005 in a week time and by that no one is willing to join such campaign IMO

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Only yobit and scratchticket.

Why no one remember about the scratchticket campaign?

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on November 02, 2015, 05:54:12 PM

Quote from: graphicx on November 02, 2015, 05:14:36 PM

Quote from: XinXan on November 02, 2015, 03:25:06 PM

It is not illegal to buy or sell accounts but it does not matter, the point is that he was scamming on his alt account and now he is complaining that he got negative trust on this other account which now makes no sense.

isn't it always against rules to buy/sell/trade forum accounts?

It isn't on this forum, though I find it extremely sketchy.

It's quite a big market actually, most of the action takes place via Private Messaging. If you get negative reputation/banned, it's not meant for just the account, it's meant for all your accounts.

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Quote from: graphicx on November 02, 2015, 05:14:36 PM

Quote from: XinXan on November 02, 2015, 03:25:06 PM

It is not illegal to buy or sell accounts but it does not matter, the point is that he was scamming on his alt account and now he is complaining that he got negative trust on this other account which now makes no sense.

isn't it always against rules to buy/sell/trade forum accounts?

It isn't on this forum, though I find it extremely sketchy.

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Quote from: XinXan on November 02, 2015, 03:25:06 PM

It is not illegal to buy or sell accounts but it does not matter, the point is that he was scamming on his alt account and now he is complaining that he got negative trust on this other account which now makes no sense.

isn't it always against rules to buy/sell/trade forum accounts?

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Quote from: graphicx on November 02, 2015, 02:26:17 PM

Quote from: Phix on November 02, 2015, 11:23:03 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on November 02, 2015, 11:08:56 AM

Quote from: Phix on November 01, 2015, 08:18:03 AM

Hello!

I had been given wrong trust and i am actually not able to earn anything due to it Sad

Wrong trust? Trust was perfectly valid. And surprise suprise I just found out you are an alt of the serial scammer SpreadBit (same whatsapp):

Quote from: Phix on July 10, 2015, 10:08:37 AM

Hello,

I am Buying, Selling Bitcoins.
Rates mentioned below:
Buying Bitcoins: I am buying bitcoins for $250/Per BTC which means $25 for 0.1BTC
Selling Bitcoins: PM Me for price.

Add me on Whatsapp:
+91 8699789940 - Mention from Bitcointalk.org and also wants to buy or sell.

No PayPal - Escrow Accepted.

Quote from: SpreadBit on December 23, 2014, 06:10:18 AM

Hello,

I am providing free Trading help. My Trading Statistics:
(Last 8 Bets)
Total Traded: 8 Times
Total Times Won: 7 Times
Total Times Lost: 1 Time

I will be providing free trading help, directly message me on Whatsapp No. : +91 8699789940 and i will reply you as soon as possible and if i am online, you will get your reply in less than 5 minutes.

You don't have to send me any coin, I will just tell you if you should bet on High or LOW.

Tips will be Appreciated, Message me if you wanna tip.
Whatsapp No. : +91 8699789940

And that's why idiots like you should always recieve negative feedback for offering escrow services because you only had one intention and that was to scam.

Quote from: indiguy on November 02, 2015, 10:52:48 AM

I just learn about this thread and so i registered to yobit. I was given red due to misunderstanding. Hope to earn from yobit. I'd probably post more now that I get to join a signature campaign.

A misunderstanding? You were trying to sell access to creditcard details you stole (see ref link on your feedback). The fact that yobit accepts and pays for scammers as well as spammers is just another reason why it's a joke of a campaign and needs forecably removing.

i confirm that SpreadBit is my alt-account but i never scammed anyone. I sold that account earlier and created this account.

let me quote it so you cannot deny it later.
Anyways, I believe buying and selling of accounts is illegal

And Indians like you who are dumb enough to give their cell numbers publicly
are reason that they are considered cheap

It is not illegal to buy or sell accounts but it does not matter, the point is that he was scamming on his alt account and now he is complaining that he got negative trust on this other account which now makes no sense.

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Quote from: Phix on November 02, 2015, 11:23:03 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on November 02, 2015, 11:08:56 AM

Quote from: Phix on November 01, 2015, 08:18:03 AM

Hello!

I had been given wrong trust and i am actually not able to earn anything due to it Sad

Wrong trust? Trust was perfectly valid. And surprise suprise I just found out you are an alt of the serial scammer SpreadBit (same whatsapp):

Quote from: Phix on July 10, 2015, 10:08:37 AM

Hello,

I am Buying, Selling Bitcoins.
Rates mentioned below:
Buying Bitcoins: I am buying bitcoins for $250/Per BTC which means $25 for 0.1BTC
Selling Bitcoins: PM Me for price.

Add me on Whatsapp:
+91 8699789940 - Mention from Bitcointalk.org and also wants to buy or sell.

No PayPal - Escrow Accepted.

Quote from: SpreadBit on December 23, 2014, 06:10:18 AM

Hello,

I am providing free Trading help. My Trading Statistics:
(Last 8 Bets)
Total Traded: 8 Times
Total Times Won: 7 Times
Total Times Lost: 1 Time

I will be providing free trading help, directly message me on Whatsapp No. : +91 8699789940 and i will reply you as soon as possible and if i am online, you will get your reply in less than 5 minutes.

You don't have to send me any coin, I will just tell you if you should bet on High or LOW.

Tips will be Appreciated, Message me if you wanna tip.
Whatsapp No. : +91 8699789940

And that's why idiots like you should always recieve negative feedback for offering escrow services because you only had one intention and that was to scam.

Quote from: indiguy on November 02, 2015, 10:52:48 AM

I just learn about this thread and so i registered to yobit. I was given red due to misunderstanding. Hope to earn from yobit. I'd probably post more now that I get to join a signature campaign.

A misunderstanding? You were trying to sell access to creditcard details you stole (see ref link on your feedback). The fact that yobit accepts and pays for scammers as well as spammers is just another reason why it's a joke of a campaign and needs forecably removing.

i confirm that SpreadBit is my alt-account but i never scammed anyone. I sold that account earlier and created this account.

let me quote it so you cannot deny it later.
Anyways, I believe buying and selling of accounts is illegal

And Indians like you who are dumb enough to give their cell numbers publicly
are reason that they are considered cheap

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Quote from: hilariousandco on November 02, 2015, 11:31:57 AM

Bullshit. Looking at all the trashed threads you started under the Spreadbit account you are obviously a dodgy character (Amazon refunds etc). You also left fake positive trust for your alt.

Seems like he always has an excuse for everything, i wouldn't have been surprised if he said his phone number matched the scammer because of a coincidence. Once again this proves that leaving neg trust for people like him it's actually not only a good idea but helpful for people to not deal with him.

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Lol your explanation is 100% BS. Good find hilariousandco.

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