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legendary
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February 26, 2015, 04:40:35 AM
#57
I have lost about 1 BTC in betting sites, is there anyway to beat these dice sites? You can post your opinion below or can send me a pm if you would like to share a secret exploit, glitch or method.
There is no way except for being lucky by which you can defeat the house. Its just your luckiness that makes you win. No trick, strategy works in gambling. Just have control and gamble with what you can loose

There is no exact way, but there are ways to increase your chances, martingale is a loss waiting to happen, but it will get u where you need to go if you have large amount
and seek a portion more.
I use something similar, and it has got me far, but my goal was rather low in comparison to most of you greedy ones  Roll Eyes

example

base bet 1000 satoshi on 50% , ignore wins, when loss happens , start counting it, every win removes one loss, every additional loss increases loss pot.
when u get to 4000 loss(4 base bets), increase stake x4, and do the same as before if you loose, but if you win,return to base bet of 1000 sat.

one might say that usual martingale is better/simpler, but i find this particular scheme much better.

cheers
You just think that those technique work.
But they all are a failure. Except reverse labourCher technique. That promises you that you wont lose more than the amount that you have decided to loose in the starting. Although in that too winning is dependent on luck. But that's the technique which is most promising and delivers what it says

im not saying it will work forever, im just saying that so far iwe been successful with it, ots all going to fail ultimatively, but atlest it doesnt get my stake too high too fast, offering me extended leverage.
its all a game, and loosing is fine with me, i dont gamble what i cant afford to loose, so its fun for me.

cheers
full member
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February 26, 2015, 04:32:10 AM
#56
Gambling is always a event with negative expected value, so IMO you should only gamble for fun but not expecting to beat the sites. There are all kinds of strategies, but none will change negative EV nature of the game.
You can beat the sites if you have enough bankroll.
We can see the case of U:hufflepuff on primedice. He made a huge profit and has almost beaten the bank.

agree to this, you need to have atleast 50% of the bankroll size so you can have an eye to eye match up with the house Smiley
newbie
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Merit: 0
February 26, 2015, 04:31:09 AM
#55
It's very difficult to beat dice sites
More often you play, more chance to lose Sad

The only way to win is know the future Roll Eyes
Or hack the game

Stop playing
thats the way to beat dice site Cheesy
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
February 26, 2015, 03:47:19 AM
#54
Gambling is always a event with negative expected value, so IMO you should only gamble for fun but not expecting to beat the sites. There are all kinds of strategies, but none will change negative EV nature of the game.
You can beat the sites if you have enough bankroll.
We can see the case of U:hufflepuff on primedice. He made a huge profit and has almost beaten the bank.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
February 26, 2015, 03:35:44 AM
#53
It's very difficult to beat dice sites
More often you play, more chance to lose Sad

The only way to win is know the future Roll Eyes
Or hack the game

well if we hack it also theres a chance for getting ban..
but is there even someone who can crack sha 256? its the most safe for now..but in the future maybe..
legendary
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February 26, 2015, 02:47:02 AM
#53
It's very difficult to beat dice sites
More often you play, more chance to lose Sad

The only way to win is know the future Roll Eyes
Or hack the game
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
February 26, 2015, 01:16:43 AM
#52
I have lost about 1 BTC in betting sites, is there anyway to beat these dice sites? You can post your opinion below or can send me a pm if you would like to share a secret exploit, glitch or method.

I am sorry for your lost.
But you have to know gambling means you may win or lost.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
February 26, 2015, 12:48:12 AM
#51
Gambling is always a event with negative expected value, so IMO you should only gamble for fun but not expecting to beat the sites. There are all kinds of strategies, but none will change negative EV nature of the game.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
February 26, 2015, 12:33:34 AM
#50
I have lost about 1 BTC in betting sites, is there anyway to beat these dice sites? You can post your opinion below or can send me a pm if you would like to share a secret exploit, glitch or method.
There is no way except for being lucky by which you can defeat the house. Its just your luckiness that makes you win. No trick, strategy works in gambling. Just have control and gamble with what you can loose

There is no exact way, but there are ways to increase your chances, martingale is a loss waiting to happen, but it will get u where you need to go if you have large amount
and seek a portion more.
I use something similar, and it has got me far, but my goal was rather low in comparison to most of you greedy ones  Roll Eyes

example

base bet 1000 satoshi on 50% , ignore wins, when loss happens , start counting it, every win removes one loss, every additional loss increases loss pot.
when u get to 4000 loss(4 base bets), increase stake x4, and do the same as before if you loose, but if you win,return to base bet of 1000 sat.

one might say that usual martingale is better/simpler, but i find this particular scheme much better.

cheers
You just think that those technique work.
But they all are a failure. Except reverse labourCher technique. That promises you that you wont lose more than the amount that you have decided to loose in the starting. Although in that too winning is dependent on luck. But that's the technique which is most promising and delivers what it says
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1000
Satoshi is rolling in his grave. #bitcoin
February 25, 2015, 07:28:51 PM
#49
I have lost about 1 BTC in betting sites, is there anyway to beat these dice sites? You can post your opinion below or can send me a pm if you would like to share a secret exploit, glitch or method.
There is no way except for being lucky by which you can defeat the house. Its just your luckiness that makes you win. No trick, strategy works in gambling. Just have control and gamble with what you can loose

There is no exact way, but there are ways to increase your chances, martingale is a loss waiting to happen, but it will get u where you need to go if you have large amount
and seek a portion more.
I use something similar, and it has got me far, but my goal was rather low in comparison to most of you greedy ones  Roll Eyes

example

base bet 1000 satoshi on 50% , ignore wins, when loss happens , start counting it, every win removes one loss, every additional loss increases loss pot.
when u get to 4000 loss(4 base bets), increase stake x4, and do the same as before if you loose, but if you win,return to base bet of 1000 sat.

one might say that usual martingale is better/simpler, but i find this particular scheme much better.

cheers
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1000
February 25, 2015, 07:18:39 PM
#48
I have lost about 1 BTC in betting sites, is there anyway to beat these dice sites?

So you're gambling and lost and are surprised?  Have you never gambled before?  Gambling always favors the house.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odds
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
February 25, 2015, 06:33:42 PM
#47


only if you have profit just leave or cash out so you will have some money to spare,


It is easier said than done, so i am going to stay away from betting forever.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
February 25, 2015, 06:07:10 PM
#46
well,theres no exact method to win in dice games, because all matters of luck..

only if you have profit just leave or cash out so you will have some money to spare,

dont play with your ego it will always end bad.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
February 25, 2015, 05:57:33 PM
#45
Yes, there is a way.

The dice site should not have any max bet limit
and
Your bankroll should be higher than the site's.  Grin

That is if I play at this site: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xdice-huntercom-1-house-edge-btc-dice-new-site-withdraw-no-fee-965615 when it had 0.047BTC bankroll, I could have easily beat the house. Wink





Again bet in primedice, total lost in primedice in last 3 days 0.3 BTC, calling it quits to betting, there are great things to do than this. Fullstop to betting.


My betting journey:

Sports bet:
Directbet, betvip, cloudbet, nitrogen sports

Start bank roll: 3 BTC
Maximum profit in hand: 8 BTC, only to loose it all away later with bad selections.

Roulette, dice, slots, graph games, poker etc... :
Moneypot, primedice, bitcoinvideocasino, 999 etc...

Start bank: 1.5 BTC
Maximum profit in hand: 3.6 BTC, lost it all away

Total lost in betting 4.5 BTC

Calling it quits forever to betting.
sr. member
Activity: 319
Merit: 250
February 25, 2015, 03:24:04 PM
#44
The first 4 bets are martingale, the next bets are made to break even and lower the bet.

Try just a simple martingale starting at a base bet like 10 satoshi at 2x payout. If you lose 4 times in a row, increase the payout to 10x and calculate your bets to break even until you win.

10 satoshi @ 2x lose
20 satoshi @ 2x lose
40 satoshi @ 2x lose
80 satoshi @ 2x lose

you lost 150 satoshi and by increasing the payout to 10x the sequence of bet would be:

15 satoshi @ 10x

If you lose this bet then

17 satoshi @ 10x

and continue to you win.

No guarantee, just works for a while before bust.

Martingale never works in the long run. But if you want like 300 satoshi thenI guess it's okay.
legendary
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February 25, 2015, 03:18:19 PM
#43
Yes, there is a way.

The dice site should not have any max bet limit
and
Your bankroll should be higher than the site's.  Grin

That is if I play at this site: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xdice-huntercom-1-house-edge-btc-dice-new-site-withdraw-no-fee-965615 when it had 0.047BTC bankroll, I could have easily beat the house. Wink

full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
February 25, 2015, 03:14:23 PM
#42
Its pretty simple. Its -EV , so there is no way unless unless you have an infinite bankroll, and the minimum bet you can make is very very small.
Well if you have infinite bankroll you dont need the minimum amount you can bet to be low

Well ,yes . I meant, with an infinite bankroll, you will be able to have upto 50 streaks supported with it. Which should be enough for you to survive. Never seen more than 35 losses even in simulations done by friends.

There is no need for an infinite backroll. Just 5629499.53421BTC is enough to cover 49 losses if you start with 1 satoshi.

Thats pretty decent then. Satoshi, can support around 47 then. he should already be winning Smiley

In order to make even 1% profit, satoshi will have to make billions of rolls, in which case the chance of so happening will multiply exponentially.

Guess what? It is the same odds as betting everything in a single bet for the expected win (in a place with no max limit)  Wink
So why waste the time?

Yes, you are right, there is no way to beat these dice sites, just come out of the game when up 10% of bank roll, which happens quite sometimes and then quit  Grin
hero member
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February 25, 2015, 03:12:00 PM
#41
Try just a simple martingale starting at a base bet like 10 satoshi at 2x payout. If you lose 4 times in a row, increase the payout to 10x and calculate your bets to break even until you win.

10 satoshi @ 2x lose
20 satoshi @ 2x lose
40 satoshi @ 2x lose
80 satoshi @ 2x lose

you lost 150 satoshi and by increasing the payout to 10x the sequence of bet would be:

15 satoshi @ 10x

If you lose this bet then

17 satoshi @ 10x

and continue to you win.

No guarantee, just works for a while before bust.

Martingale never works in the long run. But if you want like 300 satoshi thenI guess it's okay.
sr. member
Activity: 319
Merit: 250
February 25, 2015, 02:56:43 PM
#40
Try just a simple martingale starting at a base bet like 10 satoshi at 2x payout. If you lose 4 times in a row, increase the payout to 10x and calculate your bets to break even until you win.

10 satoshi @ 2x lose
20 satoshi @ 2x lose
40 satoshi @ 2x lose
80 satoshi @ 2x lose

you lost 150 satoshi and by increasing the payout to 10x the sequence of bet would be:

15 satoshi @ 10x

If you lose this bet then

17 satoshi @ 10x

and continue to you win.

No guarantee, just works for a while before bust.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
February 25, 2015, 02:33:47 PM
#39
I have lost about 1 BTC in betting sites, is there anyway to beat these dice sites? You can post your opinion below or can send me a pm if you would like to share a secret exploit, glitch or method.
There is no way except for being lucky by which you can defeat the house. Its just your luckiness that makes you win. No trick, strategy works in gambling. Just have control and gamble with what you can loose
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