Topic: ANYONE TALKING POSITIVE ABOUT BFL..... (Read 2133 times)
wow, these guys literally had a bridge to sell you and you guys bought it. i guess a sucker is born every minute
IMO consolidate BFL threads to mine.
It has the most views and I'm fantastic at attention-whoring (they call it 'marketing' in schools) so just keep adding to that and I'll promise to try and get it in Ars Technica / NPR / TheVerge / Forbes all publications I've been quoted in this year
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bryan-micons-butterfly-labs-scammer-investigation-including-josh-zerlan-136392
It has the most views and I'm fantastic at attention-whoring (they call it 'marketing' in schools) so just keep adding to that and I'll promise to try and get it in Ars Technica / NPR / TheVerge / Forbes all publications I've been quoted in this year
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bryan-micons-butterfly-labs-scammer-investigation-including-josh-zerlan-136392
If someone can find all of Josh's personal information, including what property he owns, the next step is to Lien his personal property for theft and fraud. Anyone who has a claim against Josh, should step forward and seize his personal property. I think it might be time for people to take back what belongs to them.
If I were dumb enough to be fucked over by Butterfly Labs, I would hire someone to track Josh home and find out where he lives, his car, his bank account etc., Then I would lien every personal item within 100 ft of him, including his wife's property, if he has one, and she has any. I would have his bank accounts seized by the Sheriffs, I would make sure to take every single item he owns.
If I were dumb enough to be fucked over by Butterfly Labs, I would hire someone to track Josh home and find out where he lives, his car, his bank account etc., Then I would lien every personal item within 100 ft of him, including his wife's property, if he has one, and she has any. I would have his bank accounts seized by the Sheriffs, I would make sure to take every single item he owns.
Sorry to break it to you i didn't search to far to see if BFL truly has a incorporation but most likely they spent the little amount to for it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_%28business%29
Most likely legal action will be against the company (sadly its like a legal person). Granted it is possible legal action could touch personal property...... it will be a lot harder. Sad..... but they knew what they were doing when they made the company.
Josh couldn't cover 4M dollars with his current city data property. A simple Google Search shows:
18400 Juniper Terrace
Gardner, KS
Show street view
Owner: JOSHUA ZERLAN
Property class: Residential
Assessed land value: $4,327
Assessed building value: $13,199
Total assessed value for property: $17,526
Appraised land value: $37,630
Appraised building value: $114,770
Appraised total value: $152,400
Assessments for tax year: 2010
Read more: http://www.city-data.com/johnson-county-ks-properties/J/Juniper-Terrace-1.html#ixzz2dS0GL49B
I found this from a different thread from february here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135979.5
Quote
Josh R. Zerlan
18400 Juniper Ter., Gardner, KS 66030
Chris A. Vleisides
9817 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64114; (or)
2507 Jefferson St., Kansas City, MO 64108;
Chris T. Vleisides
9817 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64114; (or)
2507 Jefferson St., Kansas City, MO 64108;
Connie-Ann Vleisides
9817 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64114;
Gregory W. Vleisides, Esq.
Missouri Bar Number: 25557
Date Admitted: 5/5/1977
1801 NW Platte Rd., Suite
Kansas City, MO 64105
18400 Juniper Ter., Gardner, KS 66030
Chris A. Vleisides
9817 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64114; (or)
2507 Jefferson St., Kansas City, MO 64108;
Chris T. Vleisides
9817 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64114; (or)
2507 Jefferson St., Kansas City, MO 64108;
Connie-Ann Vleisides
9817 Walnut St., Kansas City, MO 64114;
Gregory W. Vleisides, Esq.
Missouri Bar Number: 25557
Date Admitted: 5/5/1977
1801 NW Platte Rd., Suite
Kansas City, MO 64105
Jody - You're soooo much a dumb bitch (I obviously have a great disdain for you and you stupid comments - should've just shut the fuck up while you were ahead) - you haven't even updated your linked in profile http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jody-drake/13/556/4ba?trk=pub-pbmap
Jody Drake
owner at Awakening World Art & Design
Graphic design?
so you're probably the dumbass that designed their logo which is a total piece of shit. By the way world, blow her up, here's her phone number: 913-231-3176And of course, I end this with yours truly:
10664. Shawnee Mission 9324 W 51st Street Merriam KS, 66203 Jody Drake
That one was a tough one to find, probably out of date: http://www.locatefamily.com/Street-Lists/USA/KS/66203/index21.html
I will be repeating this post into A LOT of bfl threads now...If you are MAD at BFL, then "wreak havok on the lives of the persons mentioned"
Thank you, BFL! BFL has help me be a little more creative, offering up proof with the following to show off my latest creativity.
BFL Fanbois: *Consider yourself in Contempt!*
Camp Lugan: *Josh Zerlan, did BFL submit their product line to the FCC?*
BFL Fanfois: BFL's miner don't need to be FCC certified! Don't answer the question, Josh. It's a trap!
Josh Zerlan: I'll answer the question!
[to Phinnaeus Gage]
Josh Zerlan: You want answers?
Phinnaeus Gage: I think us monumental assholes are entitled to.
Josh Zerlan: *You want answers?*
Phinnaeus Gage: *We want the truth!*
Josh Zerlan: *You can't handle the truth!*
[pauses, to wipe the jeez from his chin]
Josh Zerlan: Sonny lived in a room that had four walls, and one of those walls had bars guarded by Italians with guns. Who else has been there? You? You, PL? You, K9? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for those who've ordered or yet to order from our no-refund-products, then you curse BF Labs Inc. You have that luxury here on BitcoinTalk. You have the luxury of not blowing who I blow. Those that ordered, while tragic, probably would have wasted their disposable income on some useless product or service. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, tries to direct their money toward Butterfly Labs. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about in your Scooby-Doo panties, you want me to con moneys from them fools, you need me to con moneys from them fools. We use words like "in two weeks", "making hardware is hard", "we never lie". We use these words as the backbone of BF Labs Inc. Monumental assholes use them as a punchline. We have neither the time nor the inclination to explain ourselves to monumental assholes who rises and sleeps under the blanket of BFL trying to protect the Bitcoin network, and then questions the manner in which we try to do such. We would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a phone and call the FCC, the FTC, the FBI, the IRS, the CIA... Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
Phinnaeus Gage: Josh Zerlan, did BFL submit their product line to the FCC?*
Josh Zerlan: I said what I was paid for to say, I...
Phinnaeus Gage: *Josh Zerlan, did BFL submit the screen to the FCC?*
Josh Zerlan: *You're Goddamn right they did!* *Provides link.* https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=132722&fcc_id='MSQME370T'
...
Josh Zerlan: [contemptuously] You monumental assholes... you have no idea how to build ASIC-based Bitcoin miners. All you did was weaken a company today, Phinn. That's all you did. You put our profits in danger. Sweet dreams, sonny.
Phinnaeus Gage: Don't call me Sonny. I'm a hero member of BitcoinTalk with the highest post count, and you're a son of a bitch with jeez on your chin. You've been served!
BFL Fanbois: *Consider yourself in Contempt!*
Camp Lugan: *Josh Zerlan, did BFL submit their product line to the FCC?*
BFL Fanfois: BFL's miner don't need to be FCC certified! Don't answer the question, Josh. It's a trap!
Josh Zerlan: I'll answer the question!
[to Phinnaeus Gage]
Josh Zerlan: You want answers?
Phinnaeus Gage: I think us monumental assholes are entitled to.
Josh Zerlan: *You want answers?*
Phinnaeus Gage: *We want the truth!*
Josh Zerlan: *You can't handle the truth!*
[pauses, to wipe the jeez from his chin]
Josh Zerlan: Sonny lived in a room that had four walls, and one of those walls had bars guarded by Italians with guns. Who else has been there? You? You, PL? You, K9? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for those who've ordered or yet to order from our no-refund-products, then you curse BF Labs Inc. You have that luxury here on BitcoinTalk. You have the luxury of not blowing who I blow. Those that ordered, while tragic, probably would have wasted their disposable income on some useless product or service. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, tries to direct their money toward Butterfly Labs. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about in your Scooby-Doo panties, you want me to con moneys from them fools, you need me to con moneys from them fools. We use words like "in two weeks", "making hardware is hard", "we never lie". We use these words as the backbone of BF Labs Inc. Monumental assholes use them as a punchline. We have neither the time nor the inclination to explain ourselves to monumental assholes who rises and sleeps under the blanket of BFL trying to protect the Bitcoin network, and then questions the manner in which we try to do such. We would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a phone and call the FCC, the FTC, the FBI, the IRS, the CIA... Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
Phinnaeus Gage: Josh Zerlan, did BFL submit their product line to the FCC?*
Josh Zerlan: I said what I was paid for to say, I...
Phinnaeus Gage: *Josh Zerlan, did BFL submit the screen to the FCC?*
Josh Zerlan: *You're Goddamn right they did!* *Provides link.* https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=132722&fcc_id='MSQME370T'
...
Josh Zerlan: [contemptuously] You monumental assholes... you have no idea how to build ASIC-based Bitcoin miners. All you did was weaken a company today, Phinn. That's all you did. You put our profits in danger. Sweet dreams, sonny.
Phinnaeus Gage: Don't call me Sonny. I'm a hero member of BitcoinTalk with the highest post count, and you're a son of a bitch with jeez on your chin. You've been served!
Well, seems my order is fulfilled but no tracking number or nothing. I only know cause I cecked my account see if josh had deleted it as he as with many others. But I'm more worried now than when it was processing. Why.... many people see fulfilled now when it blatantly isn't. I'm worried of a big last surge of them telling people stuffs on its way and then they'll shut shop and disappear. Some idiots upgraded like noons to the photo shopped monarch and some even jumped on board. These people have no common sense, we all know that but I don't think there was many.
I hate to suspect this but I come to this conclusion considering they will be shut down by the FTC faster than you can say '2 weeks'
Thank you, BFL! BFL has help me be a little more creative, offering up proof with the following to show off my latest creativity.
BFL Fanbois: *Consider yourself in Contempt!*
Camp Lugan: *Josh Zerlan, did BFL submit their product line to the FCC?*
BFL Fanfois: BFL's miner don't need to be FCC certified! Don't answer the question, Josh. It's a trap!
Josh Zerlan: I'll answer the question!
[to Phinnaeus Gage]
Josh Zerlan: You want answers?
Phinnaeus Gage: I think us monumental assholes are entitled to.
Josh Zerlan: *You want answers?*
Phinnaeus Gage: *We want the truth!*
Josh Zerlan: *You can't handle the truth!*
[pauses, to wipe the jeez from his chin]
Josh Zerlan: Sonny lived in a room that had four walls, and one of those walls had bars guarded by Italians with guns. Who else has been there? You? You, PL? You, K9? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for those who've ordered or yet to order from our no-refund-products, then you curse BF Labs Inc. You have that luxury here on BitcoinTalk. You have the luxury of not blowing who I blow. Those that ordered, while tragic, probably would have wasted their disposable income on some useless product or service. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, tries to direct their money toward Butterfly Labs. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about in your Scooby-Doo panties, you want me to con moneys from them fools, you need me to con moneys from them fools. We use words like "in two weeks", "making hardware is hard", "we never lie". We use these words as the backbone of BF Labs Inc. Monumental assholes use them as a punchline. We have neither the time nor the inclination to explain ourselves to monumental assholes who rises and sleeps under the blanket of BFL trying to protect the Bitcoin network, and then questions the manner in which we try to do such. We would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a phone and call the FCC, the FTC, the FBI, the IRS, the CIA... Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
Phinnaeus Gage: Josh Zerlan, did BFL submit their product line to the FCC?*
Josh Zerlan: I said what I was paid for to say, I...
Phinnaeus Gage: *Josh Zerlan, did BFL submit the screen to the FCC?*
Josh Zerlan: *You're Goddamn right they did!* *Provides link.* https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=132722&fcc_id='MSQME370T'
...
Josh Zerlan: [contemptuously] You monumental assholes... you have no idea how to build ASIC-based Bitcoin miners. All you did was weaken a company today, Phinn. That's all you did. You put our profits in danger. Sweet dreams, sonny.
Phinnaeus Gage: Don't call me Sonny. I'm a hero member of BitcoinTalk with the highest post count, and you're a son of a bitch with jeez on your chin. You've been served!
BFL Fanbois: *Consider yourself in Contempt!*
Camp Lugan: *Josh Zerlan, did BFL submit their product line to the FCC?*
BFL Fanfois: BFL's miner don't need to be FCC certified! Don't answer the question, Josh. It's a trap!
Josh Zerlan: I'll answer the question!
[to Phinnaeus Gage]
Josh Zerlan: You want answers?
Phinnaeus Gage: I think us monumental assholes are entitled to.
Josh Zerlan: *You want answers?*
Phinnaeus Gage: *We want the truth!*
Josh Zerlan: *You can't handle the truth!*
[pauses, to wipe the jeez from his chin]
Josh Zerlan: Sonny lived in a room that had four walls, and one of those walls had bars guarded by Italians with guns. Who else has been there? You? You, PL? You, K9? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for those who've ordered or yet to order from our no-refund-products, then you curse BF Labs Inc. You have that luxury here on BitcoinTalk. You have the luxury of not blowing who I blow. Those that ordered, while tragic, probably would have wasted their disposable income on some useless product or service. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, tries to direct their money toward Butterfly Labs. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about in your Scooby-Doo panties, you want me to con moneys from them fools, you need me to con moneys from them fools. We use words like "in two weeks", "making hardware is hard", "we never lie". We use these words as the backbone of BF Labs Inc. Monumental assholes use them as a punchline. We have neither the time nor the inclination to explain ourselves to monumental assholes who rises and sleeps under the blanket of BFL trying to protect the Bitcoin network, and then questions the manner in which we try to do such. We would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a phone and call the FCC, the FTC, the FBI, the IRS, the CIA... Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
Phinnaeus Gage: Josh Zerlan, did BFL submit their product line to the FCC?*
Josh Zerlan: I said what I was paid for to say, I...
Phinnaeus Gage: *Josh Zerlan, did BFL submit the screen to the FCC?*
Josh Zerlan: *You're Goddamn right they did!* *Provides link.* https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=132722&fcc_id='MSQME370T'
...
Josh Zerlan: [contemptuously] You monumental assholes... you have no idea how to build ASIC-based Bitcoin miners. All you did was weaken a company today, Phinn. That's all you did. You put our profits in danger. Sweet dreams, sonny.
Phinnaeus Gage: Don't call me Sonny. I'm a hero member of BitcoinTalk with the highest post count, and you're a son of a bitch with jeez on your chin. You've been served!
I got my Bitforce-SC 60Ghash - so they are not a scam...
But:
1) Took 400 days from paying money!
2) Paid extra $400 for fast shipping but came at same speed as my FPGA a year ago - so was a total waste of money.
3) Hashs at 57Ghash (with in the 10%!!!)
4) Is 4 times the size and uses 3-5 times the electricity I was expecting.
5) Did not get a power supply - had to buy one - do not know why they could not have bought one for me!
6) Is so loud I had to get power/network to the building in my garden as other half would not have it in the house.
7) Did not use trade in on my FPGA as wanted to ensure I got it fast. Was going to get another with my discount/trade in but seeing 600ghash now available now not so sure.
But it is earning its keep now on p2pool.
Would I am sure been much better off buying BTC @ 6USD each back in June 2012 than spending on this. Think I should just buy BTC instead of mining equipment.
Made same mistake with FPGA - could have bought BTC@ 2USD then!
So guess this is a positive comment?
But:
1) Took 400 days from paying money!
2) Paid extra $400 for fast shipping but came at same speed as my FPGA a year ago - so was a total waste of money.
3) Hashs at 57Ghash (with in the 10%!!!)
4) Is 4 times the size and uses 3-5 times the electricity I was expecting.
5) Did not get a power supply - had to buy one - do not know why they could not have bought one for me!
6) Is so loud I had to get power/network to the building in my garden as other half would not have it in the house.
7) Did not use trade in on my FPGA as wanted to ensure I got it fast. Was going to get another with my discount/trade in but seeing 600ghash now available now not so sure.
But it is earning its keep now on p2pool.
Would I am sure been much better off buying BTC @ 6USD each back in June 2012 than spending on this. Think I should just buy BTC instead of mining equipment.
Made same mistake with FPGA - could have bought BTC@ 2USD then!
So guess this is a positive comment?
Enough with the BFL threads.. We get it. They dont ship in time and dont do refunds...
It will be enough when they are Chapter 11 or behind bars.
BFL = Shady.
Enough with the BFL threads.. We get it. They dont ship in time and dont do refunds...
It will be enough when they are Chapter 11 or behind bars.
Enough with the BFL threads.. We get it. They dont ship in time and dont do refunds...
No! There are not enough BFL threads!, they are still advertising on this forum, with FALSE ADVERTISING <- ILLEGAL, They have placed atleast Seven FALSE AD's on this forum alone <- ILLEGAL, They FORCE refunds upon you if you outwardly speak your mind about how terrible you think they are, so poof goes you nine months of waiting, Oh yeah, They are NINE FUCKING MONTHS BEHIND SCHEDUAL and trying to create a new miner called the Monarch? that wont ship till feburary according to the LIAR BFL_Josh, Who intentionally misleads people into thinking things that are compleately false so that they will order a pre-order wich has "ALL SALES FINAL" slapped on it aswell as "NO REFUNDS" even though the law states that if they cannot hold up thier end of the deal (AKA they say "i'll ship next month" and they dont WICH IS FRAUD BTW!) then they are legally obligated to inform ALL PRE-ORDERS THAT THEY HAVE MISSED THEIR ESTIMATE AND FAILED, ASWELL STATE THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO REFUND and ask them "are you willing to wait till XYZ?" If not Im legally obligated to refund you right now, If they Cannot contact said pre-orders, Then by law they must refund the money within 30 days!The fact that they have ads on this forum goes to show that the bitcoin community has not yet realised how much of a crooked business and threat they are to Bitcoin itself!
I can see it now "one of the largest bitcoin hardware manufacturers was a Long-Con that stole millions!" AKA, BITCOIN LOOKS LIKE A PONZI because thats what all the anti bitcoin people say, that bitcoin is a ponzi, and they look for any reason to say this.
Also, A CONVICTED FRAUDSTER IS ON THEIR STAFF AS CEO https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/re-butterfly-labs-ceo-25-million-usd-mail-fraud-a-concise-summary-of-evidence-110805
Ninteen MILLION dollars "missing" from this long con scam
Now it is offensive to gay cowboys.
This post is offensive to Cowboys.
No to these kind
A cowboy is a cowboy even if it has amorous relations with other cowboys on the side.
More appropriate given their location would be to label them Royals fans.
The same exact image came to mind when I read that post, but envisioned Josh and Sonny as the leads.
This post is offensive to Cowboys.
No to these kind
A cowboy is a cowboy even if it has amorous relations with other cowboys on the side.
More appropriate given their location would be to label them Royals fans.
Enough with the BFL threads.. We get it. They dont ship in time and dont do refunds...
There is a class action lawsuit thats wrapping up its initial filing.
If there is anything you can safely share with us (now or in the future) please do. I am sure there are many people that would be interested and that it may help.
There is a class action lawsuit thats wrapping up its initial filing.
Ooo, I know many people interested in following that (with/waiting/received refunds from bfL products). Is there any link so the interested can follow this. I just hope my single gets here before this starts cause I see the doors shutting very soon!
There is a class action lawsuit thats wrapping up its initial filing.
Josh is the biggest childish misinformer i've ever encountered. When i've personally gone 1 on 1 with him he as either not replied or been unable to answer simple questions that should be easy for someone in his position. He officially hates my guts and i wouldnt be supprised if he CANCELLED MY ORDER LIKE HE DID WITH MANY PEOPLE HE DID NOT LIKE! THIS IS OFFICIAL AND HE DOES DO THAT!
Hes the front man so gets most the stick and from what he's saying there... Is that not illegal? Hes moaning about false advertising and then...... DOES FALSE ADVERTISING! He's so retarded and so low on any moral fibre its sick. But thats what this world produces these days, BANDITS LIKE THIS TOOL JOSH! SILVER SPOON F**K TARD!
He gets up my back, im going rig his plane so it cuts out at 10,000 foot up haha
From what I read,he rents his planes..........well,maybe after thier lastest windfall,he'll get a Lear at least
Karma is a motherfucker.......it WILL bite back
Ill get the NSA + GCHQ on it, They can pop off anyone they want
(Michael Hasting anyone?) 
Josh is the biggest childish misinformer i've ever encountered. When i've personally gone 1 on 1 with him he as either not replied or been unable to answer simple questions that should be easy for someone in his position. He officially hates my guts and i wouldnt be supprised if he CANCELLED MY ORDER LIKE HE DID WITH MANY PEOPLE HE DID NOT LIKE! THIS IS OFFICIAL AND HE DOES DO THAT!
Hes the front man so gets most the stick and from what he's saying there... Is that not illegal? Hes moaning about false advertising and then...... DOES FALSE ADVERTISING! He's so retarded and so low on any moral fibre its sick. But thats what this world produces these days, BANDITS LIKE THIS TOOL JOSH! SILVER SPOON F**K TARD!
He gets up my back, im going rig his plane so it cuts out at 10,000 foot up haha
From what I read,he rents his planes..........well,maybe after thier lastest windfall,he'll get a Lear at least
Karma is a motherfucker.......it WILL bite back
Josh is the biggest childish misinformer i've ever encountered. When i've personally gone 1 on 1 with him he as either not replied or been unable to answer simple questions that should be easy for someone in his position. He officially hates my guts and i wouldnt be supprised if he CANCELLED MY ORDER LIKE HE DID WITH MANY PEOPLE HE DID NOT LIKE! THIS IS OFFICIAL AND HE DOES DO THAT!
Hes the front man so gets most the stick and from what he's saying there... Is that not illegal? Hes moaning about false advertising and then...... DOES FALSE ADVERTISING! He's so retarded and so low on any moral fibre its sick. But thats what this world produces these days, BANDITS LIKE THIS TOOL JOSH! SILVER SPOON F**K TARD!
He gets up my back, im going rig his plane so it cuts out at 10,000 foot up haha
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