Topic: ApopheniaBTC - Bet and solve the challenges to win BTC. - page 27. (Read 58241 times)

Paid hints, if implemented correctly, may indeed raise profits.

My main concerns are these: (I could be wrong in some or all of these, they are not proper arguments, just concerns)

1. In most pictures a hint will rule out lots of possible answers which might decrease the pot. Maybe I could make a portion of the money go towards the pot but again, wouldn't a hint decrease the total possible number of guesses? Why guess two or three times, when you can buy a hint and guess once with a higher probability to win?

2. It will cause players to focus more on a single picture rather than spreading their guesses to all of the available ones. This could be good or bad, I don't know. It would surely be against players that just want to pay just for one guess per 2 days. Those players would either face the disadvantage of having fewer info than other players that want to bet multiple times on a pic, or pay for the hint as if it was obligatory.

3. In a picture that is close lets say to 50%, if nobody has solved it then you can be pretty sure that without the hint you have very few chances of solving it (since someone else has probably bought the tip and still wasn't able to solve it). This makes the tip look somewhat obligatory. It reminds me of pay-to-win games. If it really ends up being obligatory, then I could as well ask for an entrance fee to the site. Also see point 3: the hint would be pretty much obligatory for occasional players.

4. Slightly increased complexity for the player.

5. No matter what the configuration of the hinting system, after some time (maybe a long time) it will be "easy" to calculate whether hints pay back for their money or not. And after that point you will either always buy one or never buy it. Until that time though I think hints will make the game more "random" for most players since you won't be able to know how helpful the tip will be or whether you should buy it or not. More randomness will cause more frustration as even the current randomness of the game has caused frustration to some people. I can already imagine people complaining about how helpful for others was the tip that they didn't buy and which caused them to loose 3 bets, or how useless was the tip that they bought.


Here is an alternative that almost "fixes" point 2 and 3 and maybe 4: Pay to see the picture advanced by X hours or by X% of the remaining hours. You only get to see ONE scnapshot so the advantage you buy is temporary, as time passes, other players reach the point that you saw. That way occasional players don't necessarily compete with players that have paid for a permanent hint that is valid during the whole duration of the picture. This way the game won't be that much pay-to-win as players will need to constantly buy new hints in order to have a permanent advantage over other players which won't be worth the money.

One concern about this system: Would it NEED to be 0-confirmations? Would it be too much to ask someone to wait 10 minutes (or in some cases much more), in order to see the picture advanced by 1 hour for example? Of course the picture will be advanced by 1 hour after the time the hint payment was CONFIRMED, not the time it was PAID.

But still I feel that paid hints would just make the game more random.

I would like to hear more thoughts on this...

I too have suggested paid hints (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2350503). I believe this could help the site grow.

I have a idea which may generate a litte more income for the site.


People could pay for hints. Each picture has 3 hints lets say. Depending on how easy/hard the picture is and the pot would define the price of each hint. This could generate a few extra coin for the website and also help people who can't see early on and others can.

This site has a really good concept.

Just submitted a bet "Blue screen of death" I know that far too well.

There are two open pictures right now:




First is hintless, second one is some game.

Will do when I get back home. :-)

@Isamaru It's not easy to find objects that will not confuse anyone. I wouldn't expect the router to confuse anyone since there is only one correct name to distinguish that object from other objects: router. For example when I had posted a CD ROM in the past, there was no correct answer "audio CD" although it could have been an audio CD. Someone could claim that it's confusing because he though he had to guess what kind of CD it is. In the end, the chances of anyone getting confused are pretty much proportional to his "skill" which is what this game is about. Sure there is a factor of luck but that's the same for everyone and it only spices things up a bit, either for good or bad. ;-)

Post more pictures please 

yeah right, its the second time that i'd bad luck -.-"
use objects that cant cause this type of confusion

this wallet transactions: 1195
PAYMENT RECEIVED: 1164
PAYMENT SENT: 31

98% of the received are from free BTC sites

There are practically no wireless modems. The fact that's it's wireless means that it does route IP packets from the internal WiFi network to the internet. So plain "modem" is not correct since you don't even know if this actually has a modem. What you know is that it's wireless and that it's a router so the correct answers are: "router" / "modem router" / "wifi router" / "wireless router" / "wlan router" / "router with wifi" / "router with wlan" / "dsl router"

It's obvious that you knew what it was but you bet on a wrong answer. Any answer that didn't contain router would be considered wrong. Well, better luck next time, sometimes you'll think of something similar first and you might loose some cents betting on that.

But why did you have so much fees? Were your transaction inputs that many??

oh c'mon dont BS me, i've bet this pict 2 times and spended 0.01 + 0.0225 of f*cking fees  
give me the damn pot
this is clearly a modem/router wireless

how would i ID if its one or the other?

Keep an eye on this one as it gets easier: (I just added it)

I'll start paying some cents for ads first to bring a few more players first. For higher bets I need more players as it has been already mentioned. ;-)

I think the bet system is alright.

+1. Although, I don't think the site's currently profitable for Tritonio and bigger bets would mean bigger losses.

I'm curious, do you ever intend to do any "high roller" ones? Like, atleast 0.01+ per bet, or even 0.1BTC. I think some people would enjoy that.

its seems really good I will wait for more pictures 

New one: 

I just made my first guess.. how soon before I know if I am right or not?

Edit: Nevermind, that was quick! WOOT!

I'm going to give it a try, but these are so hard I should probably go to Las Vegas instead.