Apple or the FBI… whose side are you on in the iPhone privacy battle? - page 2.

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Quote from: Losvienleg on February 22, 2016, 11:19:46 AM

Quote from: spazzdla on February 22, 2016, 11:17:31 AM

I am wondering how many of you really understand what can happen with backdoors on phones... I would of thought you did but after reading this.. wow.

I don't think that I'm concerned, since I don't live in the shitty country which the United States are. They can spy me if they want, they'll never be able to touch me.

You really don't get it at all do you...

This ignorance and widely opinionated is why the world is so fucked up..

What happens when Russia steals all of Microsoft's, IBM's, Apples, Googles top CEO's damming E-mails and posts them all over the web as retaliation for the sanctions?

This will be the beginning of a war.. although with our ecom so fucked perhaps that is the plan of these disgusting pigs.

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Quote from: spazzdla on February 22, 2016, 11:17:31 AM

I am wondering how many of you really understand what can happen with backdoors on phones... I would of thought you did but after reading this.. wow.

I don't think that I'm concerned, since I don't live in the shitty country which the United States are. They can spy me if they want, they'll never be able to touch me.

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I am wondering how many of you really understand what can happen with backdoors on phones... I would of thought you did but after reading this.. wow.

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As others noticed the fact that Apple or Google are worried about privacy is really hilarious! I mean they profile any given data about their customers now what is all this fuss regarding some privacy concerns? It seemes only a way to keep customers happy about their data are " safe " with them

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Quote from: bitbunnny on February 22, 2016, 10:24:38 AM

This is a strange situation to my opinion. Private data protection is not so important in USA, like is in Europe, in some areas private data protection has no value at all, but suddenly Aple is so worried about privacy of their users. I'm not taking any side just want to say how perspective can change depending on interests.

Yeah that's right! It's strange that it makes such a debate in the USA!
Most of the time they don't care about privacy!
They invented Fb after all xD

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This is a strange situation to my opinion. Private data protection is not so important in USA, like is in Europe, in some areas private data protection has no value at all, but suddenly Aple is so worried about privacy of their users. I'm not taking any side just want to say how perspective can change depending on interests.

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Quote from: Losvienleg on February 22, 2016, 06:52:57 AM

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Quote from: be48d782 on February 21, 2016, 05:06:44 PM

To all people with short term memory, please try to recollect the name 'Snowden' and the revelations of Snowden about companies like Google or Apple or Facebook.

I think this is a PR stunt.

If Tim Cook really care about privacy, maybe he shouldn't collect too many userdata. The same for Google. Maybe stop reading emails for starters.

Snowden is about the NSA, the US government. I'm sure that in the terms of use of Apple, this is mentionned somewhere that they will collect your data, but you never signed any contract with the NSA...

Snowden have said many times that companies like Apple and Facebook and Google and major ISPs do work with NSA. NSA or FBI, both are government.

So this confirm what I said numerous times before : everything which relates to the United States is bad, is devil and must be avoided at any cost.

Of course. USA is one of the worst country in the world and they invaded the whole Europe, South America and Africa. Only Russia and China can resist them :-/

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I side with FBI because...

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Quote from: Losvienleg on February 22, 2016, 06:52:57 AM

Quote from: be48d782 on February 21, 2016, 05:12:01 PM

Quote from: Losvienleg on February 21, 2016, 05:08:57 PM

Quote from: be48d782 on February 21, 2016, 05:06:44 PM

To all people with short term memory, please try to recollect the name 'Snowden' and the revelations of Snowden about companies like Google or Apple or Facebook.

I think this is a PR stunt.

If Tim Cook really care about privacy, maybe he shouldn't collect too many userdata. The same for Google. Maybe stop reading emails for starters.

Snowden is about the NSA, the US government. I'm sure that in the terms of use of Apple, this is mentionned somewhere that they will collect your data, but you never signed any contract with the NSA...

Snowden have said many times that companies like Apple and Facebook and Google and major ISPs do work with NSA. NSA or FBI, both are government.

So this confirm what I said numerous times before : everything which relates to the United States is bad, is devil and must be avoided at any cost.

Hail soviet russia Cheesy

Btw. This is just pr. The master key is already included Tongue

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FBI because if they win that might destroy evil Apple

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Quote from: be48d782 on February 21, 2016, 05:12:01 PM

Quote from: Losvienleg on February 21, 2016, 05:08:57 PM

Quote from: be48d782 on February 21, 2016, 05:06:44 PM

To all people with short term memory, please try to recollect the name 'Snowden' and the revelations of Snowden about companies like Google or Apple or Facebook.

I think this is a PR stunt.

If Tim Cook really care about privacy, maybe he shouldn't collect too many userdata. The same for Google. Maybe stop reading emails for starters.

Snowden is about the NSA, the US government. I'm sure that in the terms of use of Apple, this is mentionned somewhere that they will collect your data, but you never signed any contract with the NSA...

Snowden have said many times that companies like Apple and Facebook and Google and major ISPs do work with NSA. NSA or FBI, both are government.

So this confirm what I said numerous times before : everything which relates to the United States is bad, is devil and must be avoided at any cost.

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Naturally I'm on Apple's side. Not sure however if finally Apple not going to do some background deal with the US government.

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The FBI, clearly none of the intel they gather from the cellphone will be actionable after all this time (or when they get the final rubber stamp from SCOTUS); it's a naked grab for the absolute infringement of all civil rights.

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Now John McAfee jumps in to the scene, for some free publicity:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/166513-John-McAfee-Says-He-Will-Hack-the-San-Bernardino-Phone-to-Save-America-From-Itself

This guy is even more unreliable than Tim Cook. Both McAfee and Symantec have been accused of stealing user data in the past, and that is one of the reasons why I never use McAfee or Norton anti-virus software. I trust only Kasper. Grin

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You do realize what happened don't you?

Let's see:
Judge orders Apple to change the code to add a back door to their phones.
Apple publicly refuses.
Apple releases an "emergency patch" to their phones siting a security concern.

Hello....McFly....do you honestly think Apple or the government would say "Ok, Apple is complying with the back door fix. Download this patch for the back door code."

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on February 22, 2016, 04:59:23 AM

Quote from: be48d782 on February 21, 2016, 05:06:44 PM

If Tim Cook really care about privacy, maybe he shouldn't collect too many userdata. The same for Google. Maybe stop reading emails for starters.

Exactly. Apple is the same as any other corporation in the Western World (including Microsoft, McAfee, Symantec, and Samsung). They never care about the privacy of their users. Tim Cook is trying to claim moral high ground, by publicizing his battle with the FBI. I am sure that in the end, Apple will provide the de-encryption software to the FBI.

I hope they won't do that. Although I understand that sometimes we might consider losing some freedom for the sake of security we shouldn't let the Government control everything in our life.

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Quote from: be48d782 on February 21, 2016, 05:06:44 PM

If Tim Cook really care about privacy, maybe he shouldn't collect too many userdata. The same for Google. Maybe stop reading emails for starters.

Exactly. Apple is the same as any other corporation in the Western World (including Microsoft, McAfee, Symantec, and Samsung). They never care about the privacy of their users. Tim Cook is trying to claim moral high ground, by publicizing his battle with the FBI. I am sure that in the end, Apple will provide the de-encryption software to the FBI.

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I think this whole story is smoke produced by three letters agencies in cooperation with apple just to give false confidence in privacy to ppl who use apple products. I bet those agencies already have backdoors and everything needed in cooperation with apple to decrypt iPhones and every apple product (most big companies coop with gov no doubt).

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What has been exposed in all of this is that the US Government and all its resources such as the CIA, NSA, FBI, etc. does not have the talent, skills and expertise to hack an iPhone.

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