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Quote from: wtsimis on October 13, 2021, 09:45:35 AM

I saw an opportunity to make a profit by arbitrage trading. The price difference in some exchanges seems like it could make a profit. I'm just thinking, not sure. does it could really make any difference because if any transaction takes more time then any trader will lose the initial money.

Right now in my nation there is a "good" chance to do arbitrage. Our fiat currency turned into dollars or back from banks is different than our stablecoin in binance, which means if I turn my fiat into dollars from my bank, send that dollars to binance, turn that back into my fiat, and repeat this cycle forever there is a lot of money to be made. You know what the real problem is? I can't send dollars from my bank account to binance, if I was capable of doing that, then I would be in so much profit right now.

Sometimes arbitrage possibility is there because you can't arbitrage it, there is no options available for you to do it and that means you will get to see it as a chance only because nobody can do it, since it is not something I can do, it is also not something anyone else can do and the gap grows bigger and bigger and we are just force to watch it.

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It is the opinion of some most successful traders that Arbitage trading is low in threat i mean that Arbitage trading is somewhat less dangerous may be due to the fact that there are exchange taking place among different market. As the values goes up and down so it is very good for users of Arbitage trading to make profit.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on November 29, 2021, 03:46:19 PM

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Quote from: wtsimis on October 13, 2021, 09:45:35 AM

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I suggest that you should know that there is risk attached in any trading, so the higher the risk sometimes the more the profit we make while trading, and sometimes reverse is the case. Arbitrage trading gives easy profit when someone has a very large amount of capital. And sometimes the exchange reduced the deposit and withdrawal rate once they observe an arbitrage trading transaction, so it's very risky.

Arbitrage trading may sound easy to do, but in reality it is not that simple. There are many things to be reckoned with, so that we can generate profit
from arbitrage trading. Since each exchange has a different withdrawal fee, then the trading volume of each exchange is different, and the deposit
time is different too. So it is very likely that when we move coins to other exchanges, the price has decreased and our hopes of getting a profit have
failed. The risk of arbitrage trading is quite high, I do not recommend doing it if we do not have a large capital. I've tried several times to do
arbitrage trading and the results are far from my expectations. So I choose not to do it anymore now, I'm more comfortable doing day trading with
a small profit, but if accumulated will be great too.

Wont really simple as it sounds and this is where some noobs do jump in without thinking that this kind of trading isn't something that you could find out in between exchangers.

Yes, there would really be price differences which sometimes the gap is too wide between buy and sell and someone who are aware could really take out some advantage to it for them to make profits on easy way but this would really be affected by that common factor which is;
-Fees
-Deposit/Withdrawal lock
-Small duration or time of price gap

You should consider these things out.

Usually newbies don't think long when doing something, they think arbitrage trading is just making a profit from the price difference between
one exchange and another. Even though arbitrage trading is very complicated, it even has a fairly high risk. It is better for newbies, it is
not recommended to try arbitrage trading before they really understand the world of crypto trading. Not only the three factors you have mentioned
that determine the success of arbitrage trading, we also have to monitor the market more often, it is quite a waste of our time and also
a tiring activity. So think carefully before doing arbitrage trading, because in my opinion there is another way that is better and more profitable
than trying arbitrage trading.

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Quote from: stadus on November 29, 2021, 04:11:18 PM

Quote from: Lanatsa on November 29, 2021, 03:46:19 PM

Yes, there would really be price differences which sometimes the gap is too wide between buy and sell and someone who are aware could really take out some advantage to it for them to make profits on easy way but this would really be affected by that common factor which is;
-Fees
-Deposit/Withdrawal lock
-Small duration or time of price gap

You should consider these things out.

All these things are normal and every trader will take it as long as they make a profit.

The hard part is looking for the arbitrage opportunity, and you definitely need a tool to actively monitor the trading price of a certain coin/s on different sites, it requires a system as manual arbitrage could be so tiring and you'll probably get stressed out at the end of the day. I'm not sure if there are people who make money regularly doing arbitrage trading as I'm pretty sure only small exchange has small price differences, the problem is their trading volume is also low.

You are right but I think if you have a trading bot it will less worry upon monitoring the market price, arbitrage is quite a sensitive technique of trading because you need to spend a lot of time on it, you need a tool to avoid you becomes stress and under pressure. Is effective to have arbitrage on small trading exchanges? I am thinking with the volume of each coin, maybe it is good if do this in an exchange that has a big volume of coins and a large number of traders like Binance. It is easy to fulfil your oder.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on November 29, 2021, 03:46:19 PM

Yes, there would really be price differences which sometimes the gap is too wide between buy and sell and someone who are aware could really take out some advantage to it for them to make profits on easy way but this would really be affected by that common factor which is;
-Fees
-Deposit/Withdrawal lock
-Small duration or time of price gap

You should consider these things out.

All these things are normal and every trader will take it as long as they make a profit.

The hard part is looking for the arbitrage opportunity, and you definitely need a tool to actively monitor the trading price of a certain coin/s on different sites, it requires a system as manual arbitrage could be so tiring and you'll probably get stressed out at the end of the day. I'm not sure if there are people who make money regularly doing arbitrage trading as I'm pretty sure only small exchange has small price differences, the problem is their trading volume is also low.

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Quote from: wtsimis on October 13, 2021, 09:45:35 AM

I saw an opportunity to make a profit by arbitrage trading. The price difference in some exchanges seems like it could make a profit. I'm just thinking, not sure. does it could really make any difference because if any transaction takes more time then any trader will lose the initial money.
I saw many youtube videos saying that anyone could make money from this type of trading. Need suggestions from professionals.

I suggest that you should know that there is risk attached in any trading, so the higher the risk sometimes the more the profit we make while trading, and sometimes reverse is the case. Arbitrage trading gives easy profit when someone has a very large amount of capital. And sometimes the exchange reduced the deposit and withdrawal rate once they observe an arbitrage trading transaction, so it's very risky.

Arbitrage trading may sound easy to do, but in reality it is not that simple. There are many things to be reckoned with, so that we can generate profit
from arbitrage trading. Since each exchange has a different withdrawal fee, then the trading volume of each exchange is different, and the deposit
time is different too. So it is very likely that when we move coins to other exchanges, the price has decreased and our hopes of getting a profit have
failed. The risk of arbitrage trading is quite high, I do not recommend doing it if we do not have a large capital. I've tried several times to do
arbitrage trading and the results are far from my expectations. So I choose not to do it anymore now, I'm more comfortable doing day trading with
a small profit, but if accumulated will be great too.

Wont really simple as it sounds and this is where some noobs do jump in without thinking that this kind of trading isn't something that you could find out in between exchangers.

Yes, there would really be price differences which sometimes the gap is too wide between buy and sell and someone who are aware could really take out some advantage to it for them to make profits on easy way but this would really be affected by that common factor which is;
-Fees
-Deposit/Withdrawal lock
-Small duration or time of price gap

You should consider these things out.

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Quote from: Anguwa on November 29, 2021, 02:32:13 PM

Quote from: wtsimis on October 13, 2021, 09:45:35 AM

I saw an opportunity to make a profit by arbitrage trading. The price difference in some exchanges seems like it could make a profit. I'm just thinking, not sure. does it could really make any difference because if any transaction takes more time then any trader will lose the initial money.
I saw many youtube videos saying that anyone could make money from this type of trading. Need suggestions from professionals.

I suggest that you should know that there is risk attached in any trading, so the higher the risk sometimes the more the profit we make while trading, and sometimes reverse is the case. Arbitrage trading gives easy profit when someone has a very large amount of capital. And sometimes the exchange reduced the deposit and withdrawal rate once they observe an arbitrage trading transaction, so it's very risky.

Arbitrage trading may sound easy to do, but in reality it is not that simple. There are many things to be reckoned with, so that we can generate profit
from arbitrage trading. Since each exchange has a different withdrawal fee, then the trading volume of each exchange is different, and the deposit
time is different too. So it is very likely that when we move coins to other exchanges, the price has decreased and our hopes of getting a profit have
failed. The risk of arbitrage trading is quite high, I do not recommend doing it if we do not have a large capital. I've tried several times to do
arbitrage trading and the results are far from my expectations. So I choose not to do it anymore now, I'm more comfortable doing day trading with
a small profit, but if accumulated will be great too.

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Quote from: wtsimis on October 13, 2021, 09:45:35 AM

I saw an opportunity to make a profit by arbitrage trading. The price difference in some exchanges seems like it could make a profit. I'm just thinking, not sure. does it could really make any difference because if any transaction takes more time then any trader will lose the initial money.
I saw many youtube videos saying that anyone could make money from this type of trading. Need suggestions from professionals.

I suggest that you should know that there is risk attached in any trading, so the higher the risk sometimes the more the profit we make while trading, and sometimes reverse is the case. Arbitrage trading gives easy profit when someone has a very large amount of capital. And sometimes the exchange reduced the deposit and withdrawal rate once they observe an arbitrage trading transaction, so it's very risky.

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Quote from: blockman on November 28, 2021, 06:52:58 PM

To be honest, this option is .
Because not at all times, arbitrage is that good because there will be instances that you'll miss the right time for you to do it with the sudden surge. Just like now, no one has expected for bitcoin to be at up price again and despite we know that it's recovering always that fast, nobody knows when it'll exactly to happen.

Price surge is one o the factors that can affect arbitrage traders, but can people make use of coins like bitcoin for arbitrage trading, even the fee is much more high on exchanges which will make it not advisable. People will like to make use of coins built on Tron network also also BSC which have low fee and fast transaction time which can reduce the chances of such price surge not to happen as it will take just few seconds or less than two minute for the transaction to process and complete.

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Quote from: zaesvlas on November 24, 2021, 09:12:18 AM

To be honest, this option is completely different. At least, I think that for work, this option can also be interesting, but only with a certain approach.

What certain approach do you think is better? But there's a sense in what you've said that it will only work for those that know how to do it exactly as it is.
Because not at all times, arbitrage is that good because there will be instances that you'll miss the right time for you to do it with the sudden surge. Just like now, no one has expected for bitcoin to be at up price again and despite we know that it's recovering always that fast, nobody knows when it'll exactly to happen.

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Quote from: tvplus006 on November 27, 2021, 07:05:50 PM

The only solution to this problem will be an option where you simply sell a coin on one exchange and buy on another. In this case, you will not be dependent on the processing speed of your withdrawal order and in addition, you will not have to pay a commission related to the withdrawal of coins from the exchange.

I doubt I don't really get your point, mate. Can you explain more?
Sure, the target is to sell in one exchange, not to many exchanges. I think focusing on one exchange is enough, why do we need to sell on some exchanges? Anyway, do you mean commission is the fee? There should be a commission in withdrawal coins, but the number can be different among exchanges. So, if it is possible, choose the exchanges with a cheap commission.

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Quote from: wtsimis on October 13, 2021, 09:45:35 AM

I saw an opportunity to make a profit by arbitrage trading. The price difference in some exchanges seems like it could make a profit. I'm just thinking, not sure. does it could really make any difference because if any transaction takes more time then any trader will lose the initial money.
I saw many youtube videos saying that anyone could make money from this type of trading.

Be careful with the exchanges that you’re trading with, don’t send your money to an exchange that you know nothing about just because you saw a price change that you can benefit from. Just make sure that you’re looking through good exchanges.

Arbitrage trading is a good way to make money to benefit from the price differences that you would find on different exchanges, but do your proper research on this particular type of trading or maybe ask people around you that knows how it works so that they will be able to explain to you and you will learn. If you have no full understanding on how it works, it’s best to stay clear for now.

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Quote from: wtsimis on October 13, 2021, 09:45:35 AM

I saw an opportunity to make a profit by arbitrage trading. The price difference in some exchanges seems like it could make a profit. I'm just thinking, not sure. does it could really make any difference because if any transaction takes more time then any trader will lose the initial money.
I saw many youtube videos saying that anyone could make money from this type of trading. Need suggestions from professionals.

Of course can, but we must really focus on it. There usually a reason why price between exchanges have really big spread. It is right we must fast in arbitrage, because who take advantage of the moment is not only us but a lot of other traders usually know about it and want to do arbitrage too. But if we are careless and not see the reason first, usually there are problem with deposit and withdrawal and we wouldn't want to buy the coin and then stuck in market.

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Quote from: AakZaki on November 26, 2021, 01:57:14 PM

the main problem is also the state of network traffic, sometimes the network is overloaded and it will take longer to enter, so it will reduce profits because it is too late to sell it.

You are right, network traffic sometimes has a problem, it is very annoying. Sending the tokens to another exchange may take a very long time, it makes us miss the chance to gain maximum profits. When the token arrives at the destination address, the pump is over already. So, we cannot sell the token at a high rate anymore, finally we get only a little profit. I guess you ever experienced this, don't you? Cheesy

The processing of withdrawals from the exchange is not guaranteed to be carried out as usual at certain times due to network traffic constraints, the best solution is to rely on purchasing tokens on the Dex market then you set the gas fee for transfer to the destination market, currently ethereum based tokens have almost no potential arbitrage because it has high swap costs, another alternative is to use another network if the token is spread across various other networks.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 22, 2021, 06:47:02 PM

arbitrage is not always there some might be a mistake by exchange or by the dev, but most are just to allure traders to send their coins or their money, not knowing that it's just a bot from that particular exchange.

Yeah, I have seen gaps in price levels when trading for that coin/token is stopped for some reason like maintenance/ upgrading mining algorithm. There are lots of reasons for gaps in price levels other than luring traders but we need to be careful for finding the real arbitrage opportunity. Success in in trading is all about not rushing always which is highly true even for the case of arbitrage trading.

Quote from: OrangeII on November 28, 2021, 03:27:22 AM

the price difference on the market sometimes doesn't last that long, so, I never do that.

Sometimes only when you are going for multiple round of arbitrage trading then only you can find significant profits and if you are not able to going for multiple round of arbitrage trading (for the reason quicker convergence of prices) then it would be better to stay away.

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Quote from: AakZaki on November 26, 2021, 01:57:14 PM

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the main problem is also the state of network traffic, sometimes the network is overloaded and it will take longer to enter, so it will reduce profits because it is too late to sell it.

the thing that makes me never do Arbitage is because of this. however, no matter how fast you act when you see the price difference, the thing that determines success or failure is when your asset enters the market. Besides, the price difference on the market sometimes doesn't last that long, so, I never do that.

Well, apart from that, another thing is I'm afraid that sometimes the market may become incompatible with your country. sometimes the price difference is too big which makes it quite suspicious. this has happened to WPP tokens. the price difference is huge. however, in reality, it is a trading difference by country. You can't make a deposit on a market with a high WPP price

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on November 26, 2021, 04:59:19 PM

You are right, network traffic sometimes has a problem, it is very annoying. Sending the tokens to another exchange may take a very long time, it makes us miss the chance to gain maximum profits. When the token arrives at the destination address, the pump is over already. So, we cannot sell the token at a high rate anymore, finally we get only a little profit. I guess you ever experienced this, don't you? Cheesy

The only solution to this problem will be an option where you simply sell a coin on one exchange and buy on another. In this case, you will not be dependent on the processing speed of your withdrawal order and in addition, you will not have to pay a commission related to the withdrawal of coins from the exchange.

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Quote from: AakZaki on November 26, 2021, 01:57:14 PM

the main problem is also the state of network traffic, sometimes the network is overloaded and it will take longer to enter, so it will reduce profits because it is too late to sell it.

You are right, network traffic sometimes has a problem, it is very annoying. Sending the tokens to another exchange may take a very long time, it makes us miss the chance to gain maximum profits. When the token arrives at the destination address, the pump is over already. So, we cannot sell the token at a high rate anymore, finally we get only a little profit. I guess you ever experienced this, don't you? Cheesy

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Quote from: Slow death on November 26, 2021, 03:02:51 PM

I think that few people still take the risk of Arbitage and if they do, I believe they do Arbitage using some bot, in the past I tried to do Arbitage but the exchanges transaction fees were too high and for that reason I gave up. I wonder:

how many people in this thread are still doing Arbitage and if do arbitage still have a profit?

You shouldnt mind for that question to be answered yet most likely they wont really able to see this thread in regarding whether they do really make some

arbitrage trading but for sure there are still traders who do make use of this kind of trading which could neither be profitable or not depending on different circumstances which is neither worth a try or not.

Fees is one of the most crucial on making these kind of trades yet you wouldnt know if it would be somewhat worth or would totally just break even
or you do patch up instead.So its up to your choice.

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