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Quote from: tygeade on November 03, 2021, 04:55:30 PM

I never got any opportunity to find and enjoy arbitrage as I am not regular to trading. I believe getting gaps in prices will be possible only for day traders as they are the only people who are continuously watching markets and analyzing price movements. It means day traders are getting better opportunities with respect to arbitrage trading which does not mean that we need to be the day traders to enjoy its benefits.

These days you do not need to watch market screens continuously to spot out price gaps as there are bots available in market to find price gaps across exchanges and then sending you alerts. This works within exchange for different trading pairs or across exchanges for same trading pair. I have used one and it got me few arbitrage opportunities but I needed to set up everyday but it may get alters once in a month or bimonthly.

Overall, I have concluded that long term trading is definitely more profitable for the time and efforts we are spending and all other types of trading may be suitable for the passionate traders and definitely not for the part time traders.

It depends on the market, for example you are correct on your conclusion when it comes to this market, the volatility is so high that either long term trading, holding or short term trading are better options than arbitrage when the only thing you care about are the profits.

However in markets that are not as volatile arbitrage trading can be the best and safest choice, after all in many markets most traders cannot get 10% per year in profits, something that is entirely possible with arbitrage trading, while at the same time if you do everything correctly your chances of losing your capital are very close to zero, so in that scenario arbitrage trading is not only the fastest way to raise your capital but also the safest.

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Quote from: wtsimis on October 13, 2021, 09:45:35 AM

I saw an opportunity to make a profit by arbitrage trading. The price difference in some exchanges seems like it could make a profit. I'm just thinking, not sure. does it could really make any difference because if any transaction takes more time then any trader will lose the initial money.
I saw many youtube videos saying that anyone could make money from this type of trading. Need suggestions from professionals.

I want to say arbitrage trading takes a lot of time, the profit that you can get there is not worth the time spent, unless of course you have huge funds for the movement of cryptocurrency by such a mechanism as arbitrage trading, if there is no money, then it is very necessary to take profit from it a lot of time.

Having huge funds is a very well known prerequisite for arbitrage trading, and there are two reasons for this, the first one is that the distortions in the markets you can take advantage are relatively small so if you want huge profits in absolute terms then you need a huge amount of capital.

The second reason is that in order to have more chances to exploit you need to have an account in different exchanges and you want to have enough on each account to produce significant profits, so if you want to use arbitrage trading there is no way around the fact you need a lot of money.

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Quote from: add1ct3dd on November 03, 2021, 11:45:32 AM

Only the time required for spotting out an arbitrage trading opportunity might be too long but once you find the price gap then you can easily make profits instantly. Arbitrage trading must need lots of patience. You must need to watch and compare price levels across exchanges to figure out the possibilities of arbitrage trading. This is the reason, almost all the traders hate it but if I come across then definitely I will go for it; who do not want instant profits?

Win-win outcome when we speak about arbitrage trading. If you already calculate everything that's include all the fees and you see golden opportunities, traders call this as free money. Not everyday you will see this kind availabilities,
Though some are just bot who wanted to allure investors better to do your calculations before dealing chance that you'll be stuck and lose your money is also possible if you are too quick to judge.

Examine every aspects especially the exchange that you'll going to perform your trades. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Evgenklm on November 03, 2021, 02:45:44 PM

I had a bitter experience in arbitrage trading, so it was like this, I saw that the coin is almost twice cheaper on the dex exchange than on cex.I immediately bought on dex and started transferring to the exchange, and then it started ... an hour ... two ... three ... tech. support and after 5 hours I saw a coin on the account, and of course by that time the coin was no longer traded as I wanted.

This often happens when the price of a coin on CEX is higher than the market price. It is possible that this is done specifically by the team of the exchange itself and they do not give other participants the opportunity to use it. It is for this reason that the exchange does not make timely transfer of funds to the participant's wallet.

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Quote from: add1ct3dd on November 03, 2021, 11:45:32 AM

Arbitrage opportunities are rare which might be the reason he is referring like it takes more time but honestly it will get us immediate profits unlike any other trading (scalping alone must be another type where we can get immediate results).

I never got any opportunity to find and enjoy arbitrage as I am not regular to trading. I believe getting gaps in prices will be possible only for day traders as they are the only people who are continuously watching markets and analyzing price movements. It means day traders are getting better opportunities with respect to arbitrage trading which does not mean that we need to be the day traders to enjoy its benefits.

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Quote from: Evgenklm on November 03, 2021, 02:45:44 PM

Always look for the volume so that you wouldnt really be minding that much if the price wouldnt drop that hard with just having small orders.

Abitrage trading into coins which are low cap or not really that known is really just like playing with fire but unbelievably there are still people

who do really love to play with it and some of them do make out money or easy profits but most of the time you would definitely experience losses just because of some certain fees.

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Quote from: henmark on October 21, 2021, 01:59:07 PM

Quote from: wtsimis on October 13, 2021, 09:45:35 AM

Making profits out of arbitrage opportunity is not limited to spotting gaps in prices levels across exchanges but lots of other factors are influencing it. Usually those price gap will disappear when you are taking time for moving funds from one exchange to another one. Still, some people are having solution for this by having funds on multiple exchanges so that they could buy and sell immediately to catch those price gap but practically that is not viable.

You must get continuous arbitrage opportunity so that you could profit from it. Just a short-term arbitrate opportunity may get you trapped in between.

Which is precisely why you need a huge amount of money in order to be profitable when it comes to arbitrage trading, not only the profits are small due to the fact that distortions in the market do not happen too often, you also need to move at a really fast speed, because by the time you send your funds from your wallet to the exchange it is likely the opportunity has disappeared already, and as such you need a huge amount of money on several exchanges just to have a chance to be able to take advantage of that window of opportunity.

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Quote from: FanEagle on October 22, 2021, 06:38:15 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on October 21, 2021, 03:45:40 PM

There are multiple problems in using other coins for deposit/withdraw. Because, you need to bear the "spread". It means you need to buy any altcoin at "ask" price and need to sell at available "bid" prices (for instant buy and sell) and when exchanges are having again gap in this spread then your profit level will significantly diminish.

So, using other coins than what we are usually considering for arbitrage will certainly impact your profit levels.

Got a good point

, and it's also needed to check before doing this alternative way, knowing the potential gap you need to take it into account if it's worthy to gamble the risk. I consider your reply as a good way to inform readers that even it's possible to use other alternative coin to transfer fund between exchange there should be a balance check to be done before doing it. Cool

Quote from: Fredomago on October 21, 2021, 03:45:40 PM

More on short-term goals as every opportunity like this is being eyed by day traders who love taking their edge with other traders

Obviously who are all continuously watching markets may figure out the price gaps across exchanges. So, day trader might be getting arbitrage opportunity more frequently than others.

Indeed, they are the one who have a wider open eyes, this kind of opportunities won't pass to their noticed.

They will take advantage of this gap and make sure that it won't be wasted. Day traders keep on collecting from arbitrage opportunities.

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Quote from: FanEagle on October 22, 2021, 06:38:15 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on October 21, 2021, 03:45:40 PM

More on short-term goals as every opportunity like this is being eyed by day traders who love taking their edge with other traders

Obviously who are all continuously watching markets may figure out the price gaps across exchanges. So, day trader might be getting arbitrage opportunity more frequently than others.

I have to say watching coins just for arbitrage will be a very slow thing that will cause you to end up losing a lot of money. I personally do trading, and whenever I just happen to see a chance then I try to take it.

Basically, do not revolve your life around finding arbitrage chances because they are few and it will not make you ton of money, there are bots that are doing it anyway so you will not face too much of it. However, if you are certain that you are good at trading, then you could keep on trading in multiple places and that way you could see the difference and make money.

These days arbitrage became a little bit "easier" with the swaps, there are so many methods that you could swap tokens in uniswap and pancakeswap and other places that you could literally find a million of them, but it is also quite difficult because you may not end up with what you want, it is not limit order, it is market order hence why it is difficult.

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 21, 2021, 03:45:40 PM

More on short-term goals as every opportunity like this is being eyed by day traders who love taking their edge with other traders

Obviously who are all continuously watching markets may figure out the price gaps across exchanges. So, day trader might be getting arbitrage opportunity more frequently than others.

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Quote from: henmark on October 21, 2021, 01:59:07 PM

Quote from: wtsimis on October 13, 2021, 09:45:35 AM

Or use alternative coins when moving your capital, there are alts that introduce quick transactions with low fees you can take advantage of it in moving your coin to another exchange when you spot a good gap between two exchanges, there are skilled traders who really spare their time in finding opportunities in performing arbitrage trading, you need to keep an eye to every sides of each exchange when trying to look for good coin for your trade.

More on short-term goals as every opportunity like this is being eyed by day traders who love taking their edge with other traders
who also trying to look for a good position to earn.

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Quote from: crwth on October 18, 2021, 11:38:17 AM

Sports betting arbitraging is quite common, I guess. I have read multiple topics here in the gambling discussion, and you need to be aware of the odds on different sites. That way, you could try to take advantage of multiple sites and more profits.

I'm sorry I could not remember that I have come across any kind of discussion on sportsbetting arbitraging. I guess this is the first time that I come to know that arbitraging is possible even on sportsbetting. Thanks for opening eye. I guess this will be more effective for making easy money because we are having lots of bookies these days to find different odds to take advantage of.

It is completely possible, in fact arbitrage technically is possible in any industry as long as you can get an asset for a cheaper fee and then resell it for a higher fee, one example of this are garage sales, many times in garage sales people want to get rid of the objects they are selling and they are selling them for cheap, for many this is just cheap junk but there are professionals on that market that can tell if there are some objects that are heavily underpriced which they can buy and then sell immediately for profit, another example is flipping houses, in which a person buys a house in bad conditions for cheap, fix it and then sell it for very high prices.

Buy and sell doesnt really only correlates with this market alone but also in other things in life which some people do really failed it to see but actually they do really exist and its up to someone on how they would

see this as an opportunity on where they could really benefit out in terms of profits. Arbitrage trading does exist in between platforms where price could really differ on considerable manner on where

someone could really take some advantage if they do know on what they are doing but just dont forget those important factors that would affect your profitability.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on October 19, 2021, 03:13:17 AM

It's a very rear opportunity indeed.

Do not get me wrong, I never meant anything like how did you manage to do it in a "its impossible" sense. Obviously there are tiny situations where you could do it. And 3k dollars is a drop in the bucket, even less than that in the crypto world. So, I am not suddenly shocked and claim that you are lying or this is impossible.

I just meant that it is a very rare situation and people who are interested in arbitrage trading should not be hoping to have something like this every month. They will be able to see something like this every once in a blue moon, its very rare, but it is not impossible neither. My suggestion was towards people who "hoped" for something like this, you just happen to see it, not aim for it.

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Quote from: darewaller on October 18, 2021, 01:26:29 PM

Catching the price gap quickly is more important aspect of arbitrage trading and when you are not able to move funds instantly then you should not go for trying it at first hand.

In order to be able to perform this type of trading instantly, you need to have a balance on several exchanges. This way you can simultaneously sell on one exchange and buy on another. And at the same time, you will not be associated with the technical aspect of withdrawing your funds from the exchange.