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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 03, 2023, 09:23:26 PM

I don't think arbitrage trading is still profitable these days. But back in the day, a lot of people made good money by doing Arbitrage trading.
But take note that it's not easy money, some also lose money while doing Arbitrage trading.
I can say also these days, since we already have a lot of market, like these decentralized exchanges (DEX) on different chain network, these networks could be also good use when you are doing arbitrage trading.

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Usually we can manage or consistent to earn profit with capital $100 but right now arbitrage needed above $1000 and possibility to earn profit under $20, not easy to find difference coins price right now in dapp and CEX exchange actually some coins when first time listing on CEX exchange not opening deposit yet.

I understand this right now, it's really different now. But I am curious, is the strategy still the same just like before? Because if it's still the same and the nature itself is different now, and that's normal because most of exchanges now already accessible by majority and price is really stable now compared before, take note we already have lot of exchanges now, decentralized exchanges and centralized exchanges.

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Quote from: mk4 on October 03, 2023, 01:41:46 AM

Making money off arbitrage is definitely a viable method, but take note that I'm pretty sure doing it manually isn't. The arbitrageurs that are actually successful with their operations are using their own custom-made bots. You'll just very likely to get front-ran if you're going to do things manually.

We use different method to key in what we craved for in the system, and our targets ought to be achieved. We generate substantial profits from the market, with the profound ideas innovated. There's alot of things to take into consideration because the system is volatile, always prepared alternatives in scenario were the primary targets doesn't work out. Arbitrage trading is one of the good means of making easy cool money from crypto space. Though not every trader is acquainted with these sector, but those trading have generated hugh sums from it.

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It is a good opportunity to grab the market price and take a profit but I guess quite kinda hassle with this kind of transaction because you will make another transaction which is makes additional cost too, but if the price varies that makes a huge amount and still makes a good run before you receive funds into another wallet or exchange its a quite win-win situation or why not open an account to an exchange you think they are giving more better prices so you don't need to make a transaction back and forth.

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Quote from: mk4 on October 03, 2023, 01:41:46 AM

Making money off arbitrage is definitely a viable method, but take note that I'm pretty sure doing it manually isn't. The arbitrageurs that are actually successful with their operations are using their own custom-made bots. You'll just very likely to get front-ran if you're going to do things manually.

I quite agree with you, doing it manually is no the best, a professional arbitrageurs can not use manual. I was once a arbitrageur but then I was using manual to dictate my price, sometimes I got lucky while sometime I missed the opportunity because I was not fast. If I opportunity to do arbitrage again I will use AI bot because of the speed and accurate in measuring price. I really gain in arbitrage but not that huge but the lost is limited.

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I once learned about how to make profits by trading with the arbitrage method. But it is very difficult to find a difference or difference in price that is enough to cover shipping costs from one exchange to another. Sometimes the problem is when we buy on exchange 1 at a lower price but when we send it to exchange 2 because the network confirmation process is slow, this means that when the asset arrives at exchange 2 (target sell) it is a little late and when it arrives the price is already the same or only a slight difference. just. In essence, I also think this method is quite good, only if we are lucky to find a target that has quite a big price difference. Like coin 1 is pumped on exchange 1. and we buy from exchange 2 which is not pumped. it is indeed quite profitable. It's just that it's rare to find coins that are only pumped on 1 exchange. Sometimes everything goes up at the same time. Meanwhile, if it is pumped on 1 exchange. Sometimes the exchange closes deposits of these assets temporarily.

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Quote from: Mariyamfranklin on October 05, 2023, 08:52:47 AM

Arbitrage is a type of trading where traders buy crypto in one market and sell it in other markets. The disparity between the buying and selling prices is referred to as the 'spread.' Utilizing the contrast in liquidity and trading activity, traders can identify chances for profit generation. To seize such opportunities, it's essential to create accounts on exchanges showcasing substantial price discrepancies for the specific cryptocurrency being traded.

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When engaging in arbitrage trading, it is necessary to take into account many factors - the speed of deposit processing by the exchange, the speed of withdrawal of funds, the reputation of the exchange, the intensity of trading on the pair, the speed of transaction confirmation and others. Otherwise, you may simply be left penniless.

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Arbitrage is a type of trading where traders buy crypto in one market and sell it in other markets. The disparity between the buying and selling prices is referred to as the 'spread.' Utilizing the contrast in liquidity and trading activity, traders can identify chances for profit generation. To seize such opportunities, it's essential to create accounts on exchanges showcasing substantial price discrepancies for the specific cryptocurrency being traded.

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Quote from: Beerwizzard on October 03, 2023, 10:57:13 AM

100$ of deposit is definitely not enough for crypto arbitrage.

First of all, you gonna need to buy the access for a decent arbitrage bot because beside the price difference you also need to know the market depth just to know the amount or coins you can buy. It is hard to do this completely manually since the arbitrage situation can last only for 15-20 minutes.
You need to have enough deposit to cover the exchange withdrawal fees. With 100$ deposit these fees will kill the entire profit.
And of course a decent arbitrage bot can easily cost over 1000$ for monthly subscription.

This is probably the best answer to everything the OP wrote. $100 for Arbitrage trading is not even enough to cover the fee without losses. Even if an unplanned jam occurs on the network, loss is almost guaranteed.

Quote from: Kara3 on October 02, 2023, 11:15:30 AM

_Manually monitor cryptocurrency price on different exchange.

I believe this is just a joke. Has anyone tried to do this manually?

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 03, 2023, 09:23:26 PM

I don't think arbitrage trading is still profitable these days. But back in the day, a lot of people made good money by doing Arbitrage trading.
But take note that it's not easy money, some also lose money while doing Arbitrage trading.
I can say also these days, since we already have a lot of market, like these decentralized exchanges (DEX) on different chain network, these networks could be also good use when you are doing arbitrage trading.

Right, last two or three years ago many new coins list first on dapp exchange and few days later listing on CEX, its easy for us manage profitable trough arbitrage buy on dapp and later sell on CEX exchange who first time listing have difference price more than 10%. But right now most difficult to find with some new coins have difference price between dapp and CEX exchange and more have the same price when listing on CEX exchange.
Usually we can manage or consistent to earn profit with capital $100 but right now arbitrage needed above $1000 and possibility to earn profit under $20, not easy to find difference coins price right now in dapp and CEX exchange actually some coins when first time listing on CEX exchange not opening deposit yet.

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You won’t have many opportunities with arbitrage these days. Back when crypto was newer you could arb easily with a simple bot you coded and had accounts on different exchanges but now the times have changed.

Now there are multi million dollar trading firms and market makers which have smart programmers that do all this arb trading in milliseconds. Almost impossible to do this manually or with a simple bot.

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I don't think arbitrage trading is still profitable these days. But back in the day, a lot of people made good money by doing Arbitrage trading.
But take note that it's not easy money, some also lose money while doing Arbitrage trading.
I can say also these days, since we already have a lot of market, like these decentralized exchanges (DEX) on different chain network, these networks could be also good use when you are doing arbitrage trading.

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Quote from: taufik123 on October 03, 2023, 09:43:09 AM

Moreover, now Bot Arbit is also equipped with AI assistance so that it is faster and smarter.
But until now I still haven't tried using bots for Arbit trading.

Is it a new tech? As far as I can remember, I've seen similar features years or months ago. Probably not as complicated as using a ChatGPT but it uses AI to some extent. What new bots are using advanced AI that you know of?

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It is indeed profitable but you need to monitor and consider some factors like the fees of the exchange and if the difference on price is worth the shot. Sometime it could been just an error or glitch thats why theres a huge spread. Plus the withdrawal fees on cex are probablt higher compared to dex. If you noticed the variance on price is based on dex liquidity and cex trading volume so you need to be flexible on this.

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Quote from: Kara3 on October 02, 2023, 11:15:30 AM

_ $100 or more

100$ of deposit is definitely not enough for crypto arbitrage.

First of all, you gonna need to buy the access for a decent arbitrage bot because beside the price difference you also need to know the market depth just to know the amount or coins you can buy. It is hard to do this completely manually since the arbitrage situation can last only for 15-20 minutes.
You need to have enough deposit to cover the exchange withdrawal fees. With 100$ deposit these fees will kill the entire profit.
And of course a decent arbitrage bot can easily cost over 1000$ for monthly subscription.

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Quote from: FatFork on October 03, 2023, 08:00:02 AM

You're absolutely right! Arbitrage nowadays is all about automation and speed. The competition among bots can be fierce, and in that race, the fastest one usually comes out on top. When it comes to manual trading in this kind of environment, the odds of making a profit are pretty slim. I assume, however, in markets where API access is limited or practically nonexistent, and with assets that have very low liquidity, manual arbitrage trading might still have a chance.

Moreover, now Bot Arbit is also equipped with AI assistance so that it is faster and smarter.
But until now I still haven't tried using bots for Arbit trading.

I usually only take advantage of some opportunities when the price difference is clear and I use DEX Pancake or other DEXs with the BSC network or other networks that have cheaper gas fees.

monitoring the price difference between the DEX and the market, if there is some favorable difference then I start execution.
Yes, but it is recommended that currently using Bots is the fastest and most efficient way.

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Quote from: Lakai01 on October 03, 2023, 01:34:33 AM

Quote from: michellee on October 03, 2023, 12:54:47 AM

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What is difficult is finding coins that have good movements because it only happens to one or a few coins. Meanwhile, we must also pay attention and calculate how long the transfer process takes to complete. And look for information about how long the confirmation takes to complete so we can execute it immediately after arriving at the exchange we want.

There are a few ways to mitigate the problems you listed. For example, you can hold a certain amount of USDT on several exchanges and use it to buy "undervalued" coins. As soon as their price level has adjusted to the overall market, you sell them again.

But of course this is not a classic arbitrage which the OP addresses here. Classic Arbitrage is highly automated and the best and fastest bot wins. There is almost no chance zo gain any profit if you trade manually.

You're absolutely right! Arbitrage nowadays is all about automation and speed. The competition among bots can be fierce, and in that race, the fastest one usually comes out on top. When it comes to manual trading in this kind of environment, the odds of making a profit are pretty slim. I assume, however, in markets where API access is limited or practically nonexistent, and with assets that have very low liquidity, manual arbitrage trading might still have a chance.

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Making money off arbitrage is definitely a viable method, but take note that I'm pretty sure doing it manually isn't. The arbitrageurs that are actually successful with their operations are using their own custom-made bots. You'll just very likely to get front-ran if you're going to do things manually.

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Quote from: michellee on October 03, 2023, 12:54:47 AM

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What is difficult is finding coins that have good movements because it only happens to one or a few coins. Meanwhile, we must also pay attention and calculate how long the transfer process takes to complete. And look for information about how long the confirmation takes to complete so we can execute it immediately after arriving at the exchange we want.

There are a few ways to mitigate the problems you listed. For example, you can hold a certain amount of USDT on several exchanges and use it to buy "undervalued" coins. As soon as their price level has adjusted to the overall market, you sell them again.

But of course this is not a classic arbitrage which the OP addresses here. Classic Arbitrage is highly automated and the best and fastest bot wins. There is almost no chance zo gain any profit if you trade manually.

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It looks easy but not as we imagine. I once got stuck during the coin transfer process, which made it late for the coins to enter another exchange and I suffered quite a loss. After several attempts at arbitrage trading, I decided not to continue with it anymore and stick with one or two exchanges and trade as usual.

What is difficult is finding coins that have good movements because it only happens to one or a few coins. Meanwhile, we must also pay attention and calculate how long the transfer process takes to complete. And look for information about how long the confirmation takes to complete so we can execute it immediately after arriving at the exchange we want.

But arbitrage trading can provide big profits if we find the right coin. Often prices on one exchange are higher than on another. And that makes greed try to tempt us to try it. So you should be careful if you want to try arbitrage trading.

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Actually arbitrage is most promising to earn profit faster than spot trading or future trading, different price with some coin from one exchange with another exchange as advantage how to earn profit with arbitrage. But its not easy when trying with arbitrage beside have checked with how much buy order volume and enough with our fund for arbitrage or not.
I have experienced with arbitrage and usually interested arbitrage with BSC Scan coin network with lower fees transaction have advantage with sending process faster than other network such as Polygon or Ethereum. Seems right now not easy to earn profit trough arbitrage, many time when listing on exchange have the same price and some new coins not open yet with deposit or withdrawing and make us difficult to sell on other exchange market who has higher price.

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