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Quote from: abel1337 on September 14, 2022, 12:31:17 PM

KYC is needed by the casino for them not to be abused but at the same time, There are gamblers who are not willing to do a KYC. This is why there are some casinos are offering bonuses or doing promotion on gamblers who are willing to abide KYC.

Though, I think leaving an option for gamblers who don't want to do KYC is for me a good thing. There are many gamblers who don't want to do a KYC and many casinos now are requiring their players to do KYC, This could potentially increase their player traffic.

NO KYC = NO BONUS, KYC = BONUS. Gamblers need some options.

We all know this is not possible, especially if the casino is regulated. They will be force to have an AML policy and this will always ensure KYC verification is enforced where necessary. You do know that services that don't require KYC are always at a risk of being used to launder funds from suspicious sources.

I personally hate KYC too, but you would have to understand the position in which some of these services are in.

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On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.

This is a great question. It's easy to see why you ask it, of course... As far as the research I have done, the majority of players in the crypto space is concerned, KYC is either extremely unpopular or dead on arrival. KYC procedures can help prevent abuse, but they are no silver bullet. However, legal compliance has its requirements as well.

With that said, money talks, after all; so if people see that something is valuable and desirable, they could be willing to go through KYC (if it's easy and not intrusive) for the chance at a reward. I don't think many of the players will see it as a downside.

Yes, I'm willing to pass identity verification (KYC) if I'm offered an appealing bonus with fair rollover/wager requirements.

KYC is needed by the casino for them not to be abused but at the same time, There are gamblers who are not willing to do a KYC. This is why there are some casinos are offering bonuses or doing promotion on gamblers who are willing to abide KYC.

Though, I think leaving an option for gamblers who don't want to do KYC is for me a good thing. There are many gamblers who don't want to do a KYC and many casinos now are requiring their players to do KYC, This could potentially increase their player traffic.

NO KYC = NO BONUS, KYC = BONUS. Gamblers need some options.

Maybe if a gambler doesn't want to do KYC and accepts that he won't get any bonuses, will he later be forced to do KYC if one day he can win a lot of money and wants to withdraw the money? Because this can cause grief that the gambler will experience because he is not interested in doing KYC and as long as he is playing, he is not cheating.

And I think some crypto gamblers don't really want to do KYC, although others are okay if they do KYC.

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On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.

This is a great question. It's easy to see why you ask it, of course... As far as the research I have done, the majority of players in the crypto space is concerned, KYC is either extremely unpopular or dead on arrival. KYC procedures can help prevent abuse, but they are no silver bullet. However, legal compliance has its requirements as well.

With that said, money talks, after all; so if people see that something is valuable and desirable, they could be willing to go through KYC (if it's easy and not intrusive) for the chance at a reward. I don't think many of the players will see it as a downside.

Yes, I'm willing to pass identity verification (KYC) if I'm offered an appealing bonus with fair rollover/wager requirements.

KYC is needed by the casino for them not to be abused but at the same time, There are gamblers who are not willing to do a KYC. This is why there are some casinos are offering bonuses or doing promotion on gamblers who are willing to abide KYC.

Though, I think leaving an option for gamblers who don't want to do KYC is for me a good thing. There are many gamblers who don't want to do a KYC and many casinos now are requiring their players to do KYC, This could potentially increase their player traffic.

NO KYC = NO BONUS, KYC = BONUS. Gamblers need some options.

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Quote from: arcanebetcasino on September 12, 2022, 03:51:30 PM

On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.

Direct answer, NO, I wont be willing to perform KYC just because bonus especially a deposit bonus with rollover no matter how fair the rollover is.
As a small gambler, I dont think deposit bonus is something attractive and I doubt people will try to abuse it.
Never heard about attempt to abuse deposit bonus, logically abusers wont be willing to spend money for something that can may make them lose what they spend.

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Quote from: arcanebetcasino on September 12, 2022, 03:51:30 PM

On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.

This is a great question. It's easy to see why you ask it, of course... As far as the research I have done, the majority of players in the crypto space is concerned, KYC is either extremely unpopular or dead on arrival. KYC procedures can help prevent abuse, but they are no silver bullet. However, legal compliance has its requirements as well.

With that said, money talks, after all; so if people see that something is valuable and desirable, they could be willing to go through KYC (if it's easy and not intrusive) for the chance at a reward. I don't think many of the players will see it as a downside.

Yes, I'm willing to pass identity verification (KYC) if I'm offered an appealing bonus with fair rollover/wager requirements.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on September 12, 2022, 03:14:57 AM

Gamblers should make a habit of reading the ToS before trying a new platform especially if they are against the KYC rules.

Gamblers barely does unless they are a high roller/gambler. I also don't read ToS while signing up on a casino though I don't join a lot of sites frequently, even if I do, I join only for test with small balance.
Having a confirmation message where user will know that KYC is forced, will increase the trustworthiness of the casino in my opinion.

It's okay if they don't read it but they must face the consequences of doing so because I noticed that many of these lazy gamblers still complains right after they are being requested by a KYC upon withdrawing their funds when it was their own fault in the first place. They just accept the terms without knowing what is written on it but for the high rollers and big bettors, I believe that they are professionals and that is why they became wealthy.

They always read the rules of the site so that they won't end up in a sticky situation because big amounts are at stake whenever they play gambling. Each gambling site should also make the rules more transparent and should make a notice if there are any changes so that they won't be blamed as well.

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Quote from: arcanebetcasino on September 12, 2022, 03:51:30 PM

On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.

KYC wont really be necessary if we do speak or talk about bonuses and it wont really be that prone to abuse as long you do set out specific rules or terms.There might be some lessening of some terms
so that people would find it interesting but you shouldnt forget that this would be strictly 1 person per 1 IP.I dont really see any possible ways for it to be abused since this is mostly the case
where bonuses been abused if there would be no limitations per user on certain household or IP.We've seen some sites do being wrecked just because they had forgotten to set
these common specific rules.

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Quote from: arcanebetcasino on September 12, 2022, 03:51:30 PM

On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.

Seems like a good idea and it will encourage those who are still undecided to pass kyc. This way you will attract more players and, at the same time, you'll be sure they will verify their identity which means a better user experience and less complaints about kyc. But the success of this strategy will depend on how much you will offer as a bonus.
Personally, I will wait till you earn enough reputation (no offense) so I can be sure my personal information will be safe with you.

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Quote from: crzy on September 12, 2022, 03:59:08 PM

Quote from: Little Mouse on September 12, 2022, 09:30:04 AM

Quote from: xSkylarx on September 12, 2022, 03:14:57 AM

Gamblers should make a habit of reading the ToS before trying a new platform especially if they are against the KYC rules.

Gamblers barely does unless they are a high roller/gambler. I also don't read ToS while signing up on a casino though I don't join a lot of sites frequently, even if I do, I join only for test with small balance.
Having a confirmation message where user will know that KYC is forced, will increase the trustworthiness of the casino in my opinion.

Many gamblers are just looking on the highlights of this site and with OP there’s no statement about KYC so most probably it’s KYC free but can still be asked later on. Even if its too long to read ToS, I still see the importance of reading it since many incidents before, they are shocked when they asked to provide KYC after making withdrawals, they started to panic because of that.

If necessary, the casino will ask for KYC from its members, especially if the casino finds suspicion on members suspected of cheating or violating the TOS. So I think it's only natural that one day, casinos do KYC to their members to ensure that their members are completely clean of illegal acts that are proven to violate the TOS. It would be better if users read the ToS so that they don't violate the rules set by the casino.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on September 12, 2022, 09:30:04 AM

Quote from: xSkylarx on September 12, 2022, 03:14:57 AM

Gamblers should make a habit of reading the ToS before trying a new platform especially if they are against the KYC rules.

Gamblers barely does unless they are a high roller/gambler. I also don't read ToS while signing up on a casino though I don't join a lot of sites frequently, even if I do, I join only for test with small balance.
Having a confirmation message where user will know that KYC is forced, will increase the trustworthiness of the casino in my opinion.

Many gamblers are just looking on the highlights of this site and with OP there’s no statement about KYC so most probably it’s KYC free but can still be asked later on. Even if its too long to read ToS, I still see the importance of reading it since many incidents before, they are shocked when they asked to provide KYC after making withdrawals, they started to panic because of that.

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Quote from: danadc on September 12, 2022, 10:18:30 AM

I registered and I don't see any KYC requirement, it must be that they do it when withdrawing money, but has any of you passed it? I did not read the t&c, it was an error that I missed, just to enter the site, I would like to know if they have restrictions for people who are from Ecuador.

The casino has many slot games, it is a casino to exploit its full potential, they have games that any player can like, there is something for everyone, it looks like the casinos that have been here in the forum for a long time and years of experience, they took pains to put up a very nice and well presented casino.

Thank you for the great feedback as well as for registering with us! Players from Ecuador are very welcome :-)
To ensure your time with us is as flawless as possible, we always suggest performing KYC/Verification straight away.

Quote from: decodx on September 12, 2022, 12:53:20 PM

I didn't see Ecuador on the list of restricted countries, so I think you're fine.

Thank you for helping out Decodx!

As well as thank you for all the other comments earlier about the KYC progress, and how most of you believe it can be optimized further. It is being evaluated, on top of the items that have been raised earlier throughout the thread.

On a completely different note, are you (reader), willing to perform KYC when being offered an appealing bonus? For example, a deposit bonus with fair rollover/wager terms. One of the main reasons attractive deposit bonuses are not common in the crypto space is that they are highly abusable when no KYC is required. It would be great to hear your opinions.

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Quote from: danadc on September 12, 2022, 10:18:30 AM

I registered and I don't see any KYC requirement, it must be that they do it when withdrawing money, but has any of you passed it? I did not read the t&c, it was an error that I missed, just to enter the site, I would like to know if they have restrictions for people who are from Ecuador.

I didn't see Ecuador on the list of restricted countries, so I think you're fine.

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Quote from: Chikito on September 11, 2022, 08:22:33 PM

Quote from: Slow death on September 11, 2022, 04:40:47 PM

you are allowing people to create accounts and make deposits, but you are not allowing people to withdraw money from them without KYC, this is not fair, I think even in a court of law the judge would not give reason for a TOS like this, the it would be right for you to force people to do KYC when they create accounts, we all know that few people read KYC before creating accounts, so the most likely scenario will be that we see a lot of people with funds held in your casino

Before it's too late, they must have a solution to write warnings on the registration and crypto deposit page about KYC due many people do not care and they are unwilling to try to withdraw button. because they have used it, especially since this site has the same license which they think is the same way as another casino.

Oh this should be clearly written and stated on the gambling website. If you have plans on implementing KYC function, then it must be introduced at the earliest stage possible whenever a person would like to create an account.

If the gambler deposits money without requiring any KYC but in order to get their profits they have to submit KYC documents, this would put them on a heavily prejudiced situation which might cost the reputation of your gambling website. This would result to a very unfair situation to the player as this would basically compel them to submit these documents.

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Quote from: Chikito on September 11, 2022, 08:22:33 PM

Quote from: Slow death on September 11, 2022, 04:40:47 PM

you are allowing people to create accounts and make deposits, but you are not allowing people to withdraw money from them without KYC, this is not fair, I think even in a court of law the judge would not give reason for a TOS like this, the it would be right for you to force people to do KYC when they create accounts, we all know that few people read KYC before creating accounts, so the most likely scenario will be that we see a lot of people with funds held in your casino

Before it's too late, they must have a solution to write warnings on the registration and crypto deposit page about KYC due many people do not care and they are unwilling to try to withdraw button. because they have used it, especially since this site has the same license which they think is the same way as another casino.

I registered and I don't see any KYC requirement, it must be that they do it when withdrawing money, but has any of you passed it? I did not read the t&c, it was an error that I missed, just to enter the site, I would like to know if they have restrictions for people who are from Ecuador.

The casino has many slot games, it is a casino to exploit its full potential, they have games that any player can like, there is something for everyone, it looks like the casinos that have been here in the forum for a long time and years of experience, they took pains to put up a very nice and well presented casino.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on September 12, 2022, 03:14:57 AM

Gamblers should make a habit of reading the ToS before trying a new platform especially if they are against the KYC rules.

Gamblers barely does unless they are a high roller/gambler. I also don't read ToS while signing up on a casino though I don't join a lot of sites frequently, even if I do, I join only for test with small balance.
Having a confirmation message where user will know that KYC is forced, will increase the trustworthiness of the casino in my opinion.

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Quote from: Chikito on September 11, 2022, 08:22:33 PM

Before it's too late, they must have a solution to write warnings on the registration and crypto deposit page about KYC due many people do not care and they are unwilling to try to withdraw button. because they have used it, especially since this site has the same license which they think is the same way as another casino.

I don't think it's the fault of the casino since it's already stated on their ToS even before the gambler created his account on their platform. Gamblers should make a habit of reading the ToS before trying a new platform especially if they are against the KYC rules. Most gambling casinos implement KYC verification now so it should be expected even if there is no warning upon creating an account on their website.

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Quote from: Slow death on September 11, 2022, 04:40:47 PM

welcome to the forum, I would like to understand the following:

you have curacao license, the same license that most crypto casinos have and most crypto casinos do not ask for KYC when customers are depositing and withdrawing in cryptocurrencies, so in what part is your curacao license different from the curacao license that do all casinos have?

you are allowing people to create accounts and make deposits, but you are not allowing people to withdraw money from them without KYC, this is not fair, I think even in a court of law the judge would not give reason for a TOS like this, the it would be right for you to force people to do KYC when they create accounts, we all know that few people read KYC before creating accounts, so the most likely scenario will be that we see a lot of people with funds held in your casino

I am not trying to defend them but they did say on their ToS on the "verification" part that they send emails to people who registered encouraging them to go through the verification process as soon as possible to avoid delays when withdrawing. that being said, I Kind of agree that if they require KYC upon withdrawal they should just ask for KYC upon registration.

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Quote from: arcanebetcasino on September 10, 2022, 06:38:55 AM

Thank you, everyone, for the latest comments. We have read through everything carefully and appreciate the feedback.

One of the reasons we have started with a simple introduction rather than a full-blown marketing campaign is to collect these precious insights as to what truly matters for the player to evaluate the possibility of adapting to and introducing the specifics that appear to be most important.

Having built a propitiatory solution (platform), we are luckily very agile.

So you don't want a good impact right away and you want to start from scrap, if this is intentional you know that you should have a copper account and a well-designed announcement thread but you opted not to and just wait for what the community will say because they will recommend it eventually then I think its a bad strategy if you've done these all right away we can all focus on your casino and not what you should do, its a waste of time, I admire casino that came here fully prepared.

But anyway congratulations you've done it, keep it up, the competition is very stiff, this is a very huge industry I'm sure you'll find a place here as long as you are active here and keep up posted.

I am very much in agreement with your opinion, but everything can be improved, of course yes, you can still start with a good signing campaign in the forum so that they have more visibility and can have more authentic players, noticing that they want to get ahead with their own efforts is something that I respect a lot, in fact I created my account and the site is good, I would also like if they could do something more, maybe if they give some bonuses for bitcointalk users, maybe a select group, a bonus to try the games, make the withdrawals, I don't know if they condition it with some kind of wagering conditions or something like that, this will attract much more attention in a good way, of course, it's just a suggestion.

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Quote from: Slow death on September 11, 2022, 04:40:47 PM

you are allowing people to create accounts and make deposits, but you are not allowing people to withdraw money from them without KYC, this is not fair, I think even in a court of law the judge would not give reason for a TOS like this, the it would be right for you to force people to do KYC when they create accounts, we all know that few people read KYC before creating accounts, so the most likely scenario will be that we see a lot of people with funds held in your casino

Before it's too late, they must have a solution to write warnings on the registration and crypto deposit page about KYC due many people do not care and they are unwilling to try to withdraw button. because they have used it, especially since this site has the same license which they think is the same way as another casino.

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