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Quote from: DutchBrat on June 20, 2012, 01:03:09 PM

Hahaha Double SHA(256)posting

Try writing a post on a Samsung Tab 10.1 and you will know what I have to endure ! Grin

Battery powered bluetooth micro-keyboard. They make them.

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Quote from: Definit on June 20, 2012, 01:11:26 PM

Quote from: DutchBrat on June 20, 2012, 01:03:09 PM

Hahaha Double SHA(256)posting

Try writing a post on a Samsung Tab 10.1 and you will know what I have to endure ! Grin

LMAO

another side note is, people who are buying singles from Re-Sellers Lose money from paying S&H From reseller, S&H back to BFL for trade-in, plus S&H for the ASIC trade-in sent from them to you...

rather then just paying for S&H for the asic directly from them to you.

that does add up really quick depending on the amount of singles you are purchasing from resellers.

Also what country.

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Quote from: DutchBrat on June 20, 2012, 01:03:09 PM

Hahaha Double SHA(256)posting

Try writing a post on a Samsung Tab 10.1 and you will know what I have to endure ! Grin

LMAO

another side note is, people who are buying singles from Re-Sellers Lose money from paying S&H From reseller, S&H back to BFL for trade-in, plus S&H for the ASIC trade-in sent from them to you...

rather then just paying for S&H for the asic directly from them to you.

that does add up really quick depending on the amount of singles you are purchasing from resellers.

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Hahaha Double SHA(256)posting

Try writing a post on a Samsung Tab 10.1 and you will know what I have to endure ! Grin

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Quote from: DutchBrat on June 20, 2012, 12:48:09 PM

Quote from: BCbitcoin on June 20, 2012, 12:41:51 PM

Quote from: DutchBrat on June 20, 2012, 12:31:14 PM

It makes a difference,

Either they get $3000 from me or $1500 + 2 singles from someone else

I think they will put priority on full–paying customers: higher cashflow

No, the cash flow is exactly the same regardless of the order of shipments. Everyone has to plunk down the money and just wait.

If they have 10 monster ASICs @ $30.000 each, do you think they will sell them to the guys that put up $300.000 or the guys that put up $150.000 & 10 mini–rigs in exchange

For the $1500 devices it wont make much difference as there will be a lot of demand for them, but for the $30k ones, they will prioritize is my feeling

Edit: I forgot BFL wont ha

Quote from: BCbitcoin on June 20, 2012, 12:41:51 PM

Quote from: DutchBrat on June 20, 2012, 12:31:14 PM

It makes a difference,

Either they get $3000 from me or $1500 + 2 singles from someone else

I think they will put priority on full–paying customers: higher cashflow

No, the cash flow is exactly the same regardless of the order of shipments. Everyone has to plunk down the money and just wait.

If they have 10 monster ASICs @ $30.000 each, do you think they will sell them to the guys that put up $300.000 or the guys that put up $150.000 & 10 mini–rigs in exchange

For the $1500 devices it wont make much difference as there will be a lot of demand for them, but for the $30k ones, they will prioritize is my feeling

Edit: I forgot BFL wont have 10 devices as they wont start assembly after moneyhas been sent, so ignore what I said :-)

Is this the first double post within 1 single post!!!!? Huh

!!!

lol

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Quote from: BCbitcoin on June 20, 2012, 12:41:51 PM

Quote from: DutchBrat on June 20, 2012, 12:31:14 PM

It makes a difference,

Either they get $3000 from me or $1500 + 2 singles from someone else

I think they will put priority on full–paying customers: higher cashflow

No, the cash flow is exactly the same regardless of the order of shipments. Everyone has to plunk down the money and just wait.

If they have 10 monster ASICs @ $30.000 each, do you think they will sell them to the guys that put up $300.000 or the guys that put up $150.000 & 10 mini–rigs in exchange

For the $1500 devices it wont make much difference as there will be a lot of demand for them, but for the $30k ones, they will prioritize is my feeling

Edit: I forgot BFL wont have 10 devices as they wont start assembly after moneyhas been sent, so ignore what I said :-)

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Quote from: DutchBrat on June 20, 2012, 12:31:14 PM

It makes a difference,

Either they get $3000 from me or $1500 + 2 singles from someone else

I think they will put priority on full–paying customers: higher cashflow

No, the cash flow is exactly the same regardless of the order of shipments. Everyone has to plunk down the money and just wait.

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Quote from: P4man on June 20, 2012, 12:35:56 PM

More importantly, the ones with the fpga singles would be inclined to buy asics at almost twice the price/difficulty as a non fpga owner, since their FPGAs are essentially worthless for mining and so they pay only "half" price. So you want to sign up the other customers first before difficulty starts shooting up.

Hey, that's an interesting point I hadn't thought about...

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More importantly, the ones with the fpga singles would be inclined to buy asics at almost twice the price/difficulty as a non fpga owner, since their FPGAs are essentially worthless for mining and so they pay only "half" price. So you want to sign up the other customers first before difficulty starts shooting up.

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Quote from: DutchBrat on June 20, 2012, 12:31:14 PM

It makes a difference,

Either they get $3000 from me or $1500 + 2 singles from someone else

I think they will put priority on full–paying customers: higher cashflow

I think the idea is that by the time they actually have product ready to ship, they've had everyone's money for months anyway. It's not like they have to choose between getting $30000 or $15000 + a MiniRig, they already have $45000 in the bank and they can deliver whenever they feel like.

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Quote from: DutchBrat on June 20, 2012, 12:31:14 PM

It makes a difference,

Either they get $3000 from me or $1500 + 2 singles from someone else

I think they will put priority on full–paying customers: higher cashflow

I think this makes sense.

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It makes a difference,

Either they get $3000 from me or $1500 + 2 singles from someone else

I think they will put priority on full–paying customers: higher cashflow

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Quote from: Definit on June 20, 2012, 11:48:30 AM

I would not buy a single imo....

I garuntee they dont push out thousands of trade-in's before selling the bulk of their Pre-Orders first to Generate initial income...

or they will be at a loss, (50% of what they would earn at that time compared to Full Pre-Order sales, lol)

It makes no difference to them as they are taking all the money upfront.

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I would not buy a single imo....

I garuntee they dont push out thousands of trade-in's before selling the bulk of their Pre-Orders first to Generate initial income...

or they will be at a loss, (50% of what they would earn at that time compared to Full Pre-Order sales, lol)

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Quote from: bulanula on June 20, 2012, 10:36:39 AM

Quote from: rjk on June 20, 2012, 10:34:14 AM

Quote from: bulanula on June 20, 2012, 10:33:19 AM

Quote from: Definit on June 20, 2012, 10:31:06 AM

id say the singles are worth 600, there is no premium now that everyones waiting in line for asic's & trade-ins...

and that 600 is 50% down on your asic upgrade.

so they are still worth their $600 bfl price, as they will honer that price they were sold.

Get em, and Wait in line for trade-ins next tax season though... it's my guess they favor the pre-orders and new customer's first, let that die down then do trade-ins...

Yes but anybody that is paying $600 for a single right now will be able to recuperate the costs before reward halving and ASIC coming ( Dec 2012 ) ?

No, but they will be able to get a $600 credit towards new equipment.

Yeah but $600 CREDIT for equipment ( that can come in 4-6 weeks Cheesy

) is not = $300 cash right now in my bank account.

Just like MtGox USD does not equal USD already in my bank or how cellphone credit does not equal currency in Africa.

That's your personal valuation of such a credit, and you are entitled to it.

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Quote from: rjk on June 20, 2012, 10:34:14 AM

Quote from: bulanula on June 20, 2012, 10:33:19 AM

Quote from: Definit on June 20, 2012, 10:31:06 AM

id say the singles are worth 600, there is no premium now that everyones waiting in line for asic's & trade-ins...

and that 600 is 50% down on your asic upgrade.

so they are still worth their $600 bfl price, as they will honer that price they were sold.

Get em, and Wait in line for trade-ins next tax season though... it's my guess they favor the pre-orders and new customer's first, let that die down then do trade-ins...

Yes but anybody that is paying $600 for a single right now will be able to recuperate the costs before reward halving and ASIC coming ( Dec 2012 ) ?

No, but they will be able to get a $600 credit towards new equipment.

Yeah but $600 CREDIT for equipment ( that can come in 4-6 weeks Cheesy

) is not = $300 cash right now in my bank account.

Just like MtGox USD does not equal USD already in my bank or how cellphone credit does not equal currency in Africa.

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Quote from: bulanula on June 20, 2012, 10:33:19 AM

Quote from: Definit on June 20, 2012, 10:31:06 AM

id say the singles are worth 600, there is no premium now that everyones waiting in line for asic's & trade-ins...

and that 600 is 50% down on your asic upgrade.

so they are still worth their $600 bfl price, as they will honer that price they were sold.

Get em, and Wait in line for trade-ins next tax season though... it's my guess they favor the pre-orders and new customer's first, let that die down then do trade-ins...

Yes but anybody that is paying $600 for a single right now will be able to recuperate the costs before reward halving and ASIC coming ( Dec 2012 ) ?

No, but they will be able to get a $600 credit towards new equipment.

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Quote from: Definit on June 20, 2012, 10:31:06 AM

id say the singles are worth 600, there is no premium now that everyones waiting in line for asic's & trade-ins...

and that 600 is 50% down on your asic upgrade.

so they are still worth their $600 bfl price, as they will honer that price they were sold.

Get em, and Wait in line for trade-ins next tax season though... it's my guess they favor the pre-orders and new customer's first, let that die down then do trade-ins...

Yes but anybody that is paying $600 for a single right now will be able to recuperate the costs before reward halving and ASIC coming ( Dec 2012 ) ?

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id say the singles are worth 600, there is no premium now that everyones waiting in line for asic's & trade-ins...

and that 600 is 50% down on your asic upgrade.

so they are still worth their $600 bfl price, as they will honer that price they were sold.

Get em, and Wait in line for trade-ins next tax season though... it's my guess they favor the pre-orders and new customer's first, let that die down then do trade-ins...

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Quote from: bitlane on June 20, 2012, 10:05:47 AM

Face it. BFL have fucked over the entire community without even releasing their new ASIC product.

All it took was an announcement to cause enough FEAR to crash the top Security prices on the GLBSE, the mad PANIC SELL-OFF of Bitforce Singles (over 50 for sale currently that I saw in the marketplace here) and the fight over their VAGUE terms of trade-in....not to mention the MEGA-TROLL against their competition.

THEY HAVE EVERY CURRENT CUSTOMER BY THE BALLS.

Those of you who have paid them your money have been hooked, line'd and SUNK....LOL....as in Hook, Line and Sinker.

They left their trade-up program details JUST VAGUE enough to keep the new orders rollin' in...but I wonder how those new orders will proceed after today or even last night ?

They were forced to reveal info that they DIDN'T want YOU to know and that was the fact that regardless of what BFL product you have, you will still have to PAY for your upgrade, FOR EACH ITEM. No trading in '2 old units' straight across for 1 shiny new one etc.

They want your money and NOW you have NO CHOICE but to keep giving it to them if you own a current generation piece of BFL hardware.

Why so grim ?

Why so serious ?

( insert picture of joker with knife and bloody lips here )

BFL is a good company. What should they have done instead ?

Currently a single is worth around $300 with the trade in thing.

If they did no tradein then it would be worth what ? I bet lower than $300. How many have paid the singles off is the question ...

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