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girib1684
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Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 09:14:10 AM
#313
Quote from: Sozialtourist on April 30, 2018, 09:28:27 AM
Quote from: faulerwilli on April 30, 2018, 08:30:12 AM
Very interesting, you can participate in the Bittwatt-ICO directly through the coss exchange https://profile.coss.io/ico-listing/bwt  There are even 5% extra bonus, nice move

Ohh this kind of promotion is new to me. So I assume it also means the tokens will be listed on the Coss exchange immediately after the ICO, right?
I guess it's not after ICO. He said you can participate in ICO directly through this link. I checked link that but my account is not there so don't know what is the inside of that link. Needs be to create account and check it.
phantam
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Bountyhive.io
Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 09:06:54 AM
#312
Quote from: cryptorani on May 02, 2018, 09:02:25 AM
Quote from: ibininja on May 02, 2018, 05:28:05 AM
Quote from: Ace44 on May 02, 2018, 04:29:55 AM
Quote from: gee777 on May 01, 2018, 04:41:14 PM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: jamzzz123 on May 01, 2018, 11:49:17 AM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: Sonofspada on May 01, 2018, 09:46:26 AM
Softcap is 25.3 mil USD and hardcap is 30.4 mil USD. Its too close to each other. Thats why everybody is confident about achieving hardcap sooner than expected.
Yes that is true mate, I totally believe that as long as softcap is achieved, hardcap will be a walkover. I do not see anything stopping that

There is still over 12 days left of the ICO and the hardcap is so close, I'm very confident the team will do it, I can't wait to see the progression and once we hit the exchanges. very exciting
I do believe they can anyway, as long as they do not slow down on promotions, I know they will certainly get responses from potential investors

Bittwatt will be able to achieve the hardcap.. The difference with the soft-cap isn't much just 5 million. Anyway it does not actually matter as they can go on with the project from the soft-cap.

Yea, you're right about that, so i will term this project successful and do believe that more sales will come in, you never can tell and the hardcap will just come knocking, is lovely to see something that is trying to change the traditional settings that has longed been is used with several deficiencies


It is a smooth journey it seems.They are going all out now especially with the conferences as their recent appearance in the  Dubai blockchain forum. I have read somewhere that dubai is actually adopting the blockchain in various public sectors or will adopt.

How much tokens sold till now ? And when do you guys think it will reach softcap? Since gap between softcap and hardcap is Very less I am sure once softcap is reached, hardcap will be reached within a day or two.

The site doesn't actually say the number, but i did some sleuthing in the HTML code and the progress bar is set to 210858000 with a max of 251598438 ... so it would appear 210m sold if their front page is still correct. Which given the specificness of the numbers on the progress bar its very likely to be correct. Which makes sense given how much they sold in pre-ico
cryptorani
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Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 09:02:25 AM
#311
Quote from: ibininja on May 02, 2018, 05:28:05 AM
Quote from: Ace44 on May 02, 2018, 04:29:55 AM
Quote from: gee777 on May 01, 2018, 04:41:14 PM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: jamzzz123 on May 01, 2018, 11:49:17 AM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: Sonofspada on May 01, 2018, 09:46:26 AM
Softcap is 25.3 mil USD and hardcap is 30.4 mil USD. Its too close to each other. Thats why everybody is confident about achieving hardcap sooner than expected.
Yes that is true mate, I totally believe that as long as softcap is achieved, hardcap will be a walkover. I do not see anything stopping that

There is still over 12 days left of the ICO and the hardcap is so close, I'm very confident the team will do it, I can't wait to see the progression and once we hit the exchanges. very exciting
I do believe they can anyway, as long as they do not slow down on promotions, I know they will certainly get responses from potential investors

Bittwatt will be able to achieve the hardcap.. The difference with the soft-cap isn't much just 5 million. Anyway it does not actually matter as they can go on with the project from the soft-cap.

Yea, you're right about that, so i will term this project successful and do believe that more sales will come in, you never can tell and the hardcap will just come knocking, is lovely to see something that is trying to change the traditional settings that has longed been is used with several deficiencies


It is a smooth journey it seems.They are going all out now especially with the conferences as their recent appearance in the  Dubai blockchain forum. I have read somewhere that dubai is actually adopting the blockchain in various public sectors or will adopt.

How much tokens sold till now ? And when do you guys think it will reach softcap? Since gap between softcap and hardcap is Very less I am sure once softcap is reached, hardcap will be reached within a day or two.
gee777
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Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 08:39:25 AM
#310
Quote from: Owillz on May 02, 2018, 05:15:59 AM
Quote from: Abah007 on May 01, 2018, 02:17:13 PM
Bittwatt was present at World Blockchain Forum in Dubai, one of the most important blockchain conference this year.



That's a good one. I hope they have been able to put out one or two words about their project and get some interested investor's response? Do you know if they were given time for presentation?


This is interesting.. I think that should be one of the biggest blockchain conference that is being held. Hope they were able to attract big guns from dubai to take part in bittwatt vision.
jamzzz123
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Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 06:49:13 AM
#309
Quote from: nesh1 on May 02, 2018, 06:38:13 AM
Quote from: utclpn on May 02, 2018, 06:26:37 AM
Quote from: cryptossi on May 01, 2018, 12:23:59 PM
Quote from: Owillz on May 01, 2018, 12:09:59 PM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 09:09:22 AM
Hello people, feel free to fill the form and follow the steps if you want to participate in the airdrop https://bit.ly/2JDnuGh. Getting some free tokens wont be a bad idea as well

First just registered for their airdrop. I urge those who are yet to do so to act quickly now while it's still open. You know, You really have nothing to lose if you do.

Thanks for pointing this out Hendo, this is the first time I've seen an airdrop for this project, it looks pretty good, the first 5000 participants will get 40 BWT tokens as well which is worth approx. $8.00 ! Nice freebie for Bittwatt supporters.
Guys, I missed that airdrop. Its showing there Airdrop registration is no longer accepting response. Is there any chance for next round?
They did not tell anything about a second airdrop but i hope there won't be any because mostly a second airdrop can cause a small dump.

It can potentially cause more of a dump but the real community behind the project will most likely hold these coins until it hits a high price; I also think the airdrop is a cheap way of marketing, for example I got a airdrop of TRX months ago before it was a top20 coin, which made me purchase more at like 25 satoshis, look at the price now!! just goes to show it can be a very effective cheap way of marketing
nesh1
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Merit: 110
Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 06:38:13 AM
#308
Quote from: utclpn on May 02, 2018, 06:26:37 AM
Quote from: cryptossi on May 01, 2018, 12:23:59 PM
Quote from: Owillz on May 01, 2018, 12:09:59 PM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 09:09:22 AM
Hello people, feel free to fill the form and follow the steps if you want to participate in the airdrop https://bit.ly/2JDnuGh. Getting some free tokens wont be a bad idea as well

First just registered for their airdrop. I urge those who are yet to do so to act quickly now while it's still open. You know, You really have nothing to lose if you do.

Thanks for pointing this out Hendo, this is the first time I've seen an airdrop for this project, it looks pretty good, the first 5000 participants will get 40 BWT tokens as well which is worth approx. $8.00 ! Nice freebie for Bittwatt supporters.
Guys, I missed that airdrop. Its showing there Airdrop registration is no longer accepting response. Is there any chance for next round?
They did not tell anything about a second airdrop but i hope there won't be any because mostly a second airdrop can cause a small dump.
utclpn
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Merit: 0
Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 06:26:37 AM
#307
Quote from: cryptossi on May 01, 2018, 12:23:59 PM
Quote from: Owillz on May 01, 2018, 12:09:59 PM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 09:09:22 AM
Hello people, feel free to fill the form and follow the steps if you want to participate in the airdrop https://bit.ly/2JDnuGh. Getting some free tokens wont be a bad idea as well

First just registered for their airdrop. I urge those who are yet to do so to act quickly now while it's still open. You know, You really have nothing to lose if you do.

Thanks for pointing this out Hendo, this is the first time I've seen an airdrop for this project, it looks pretty good, the first 5000 participants will get 40 BWT tokens as well which is worth approx. $8.00 ! Nice freebie for Bittwatt supporters.
Guys, I missed that airdrop. Its showing there Airdrop registration is no longer accepting response. Is there any chance for next round?
ibininja
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Activity: 490
Merit: 10
Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 05:28:05 AM
#306
Quote from: Ace44 on May 02, 2018, 04:29:55 AM
Quote from: gee777 on May 01, 2018, 04:41:14 PM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: jamzzz123 on May 01, 2018, 11:49:17 AM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: Sonofspada on May 01, 2018, 09:46:26 AM
Softcap is 25.3 mil USD and hardcap is 30.4 mil USD. Its too close to each other. Thats why everybody is confident about achieving hardcap sooner than expected.
Yes that is true mate, I totally believe that as long as softcap is achieved, hardcap will be a walkover. I do not see anything stopping that

There is still over 12 days left of the ICO and the hardcap is so close, I'm very confident the team will do it, I can't wait to see the progression and once we hit the exchanges. very exciting
I do believe they can anyway, as long as they do not slow down on promotions, I know they will certainly get responses from potential investors

Bittwatt will be able to achieve the hardcap.. The difference with the soft-cap isn't much just 5 million. Anyway it does not actually matter as they can go on with the project from the soft-cap.

Yea, you're right about that, so i will term this project successful and do believe that more sales will come in, you never can tell and the hardcap will just come knocking, is lovely to see something that is trying to change the traditional settings that has longed been is used with several deficiencies


It is a smooth journey it seems.They are going all out now especially with the conferences as their recent appearance in the  Dubai blockchain forum. I have read somewhere that dubai is actually adopting the blockchain in various public sectors or will adopt.
Owillz
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Merit: 10
Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 05:15:59 AM
#305
Quote from: Abah007 on May 01, 2018, 02:17:13 PM
Bittwatt was present at World Blockchain Forum in Dubai, one of the most important blockchain conference this year.



That's a good one. I hope they have been able to put out one or two words about their project and get some interested investor's response? Do you know if they were given time for presentation?
faulerwilli
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Merit: 140
Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 05:07:29 AM
#304
Quote from: RyCriptoC on May 02, 2018, 04:32:46 AM
Quote from: Cnote328 on May 02, 2018, 04:12:44 AM
Quote from: jamzzz123 on May 02, 2018, 04:02:02 AM
Quote from: Anilg on May 02, 2018, 12:39:17 AM
Quote from: Owillz on May 01, 2018, 12:09:59 PM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 09:09:22 AM
Hello people, feel free to fill the form and follow the steps if you want to participate in the airdrop https://[Suspicious link removed]/2JDnuGh. Getting some free tokens wont be a bad idea as well

First just registered for their airdrop. I urge those who are yet to do so to act quickly now while it's still open. You know, You really have nothing to lose if you do.

Thanks for sharing the link. I normally dont like Airdrops as most of the other tokens have no value. But Bittwatt is having working product who want to miss such good tokens that too when its free Smiley

Shame, I think I missed this - no longer accepting participants.

 I come across a nice article for those who haven't seen it before; check it out @ https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@grade/bitwatt-ico-review

Sorry you missed the Bittwatt Airdrop perhaps they might conduct another bonus campaign in the future. The article you shared is quite interesting their vision statement; ''BITWATT imagine a universe of keen buyers in a reasonable vitality framework with insignificant expenses for all gatherings'' is really inspiring.

Thanks for the article. I am new to Bittwatt ICO. This article will give me very good info. Can someone share introductory video of Bittwatt? I hope they have it?


they have their own youtube channel, they have released 3 videos so far. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChYWjiPk7lS6DBuaXgsIy4A
These give a quick overview of the project. but you should also take the time to read the whitepaper. It is not too difficult to understand and it is really interesting
Nathan01
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DocTailor IEO on Zloadr
Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 04:42:04 AM
#303
Quote from: phantam on May 01, 2018, 04:48:20 PM
Quote from: gee777 on May 01, 2018, 04:41:14 PM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: jamzzz123 on May 01, 2018, 11:49:17 AM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: Sonofspada on May 01, 2018, 09:46:26 AM
Softcap is 25.3 mil USD and hardcap is 30.4 mil USD. Its too close to each other. Thats why everybody is confident about achieving hardcap sooner than expected.
Yes that is true mate, I totally believe that as long as softcap is achieved, hardcap will be a walkover. I do not see anything stopping that

There is still over 12 days left of the ICO and the hardcap is so close, I'm very confident the team will do it, I can't wait to see the progression and once we hit the exchanges. very exciting
I do believe they can anyway, as long as they do not slow down on promotions, I know they will certainly get responses from potential investors

Bittwatt will be able to achieve the hardcap.. The difference with the soft-cap isn't much just 5 million. Anyway it does not actually matter as they can go on with the project from the soft-cap.

Ya the fact they have a very achievable hardcap brought some good attention to the project as it shows the team has realistic goals and isn’t just trying to raise some exhorberant amount of money for the project.

Glad to see a team with such a realistic set of goals. In reality hitting the softcaps the big important part but an achievable shardcap getting hit can send a strong message to the after ico market traders

With a Whitepaper and one pager that's short and concise you could expect that the project is set to be achieved with few complicated factors such as the hard and softcap, haven't looked into the various caps just yet but going by what I read here I see it's realizable
RyCriptoC
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Activity: 238
Merit: 1
Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 04:32:46 AM
#302
Quote from: Cnote328 on May 02, 2018, 04:12:44 AM
Quote from: jamzzz123 on May 02, 2018, 04:02:02 AM
Quote from: Anilg on May 02, 2018, 12:39:17 AM
Quote from: Owillz on May 01, 2018, 12:09:59 PM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 09:09:22 AM
Hello people, feel free to fill the form and follow the steps if you want to participate in the airdrop https://[Suspicious link removed]/2JDnuGh. Getting some free tokens wont be a bad idea as well

First just registered for their airdrop. I urge those who are yet to do so to act quickly now while it's still open. You know, You really have nothing to lose if you do.

Thanks for sharing the link. I normally dont like Airdrops as most of the other tokens have no value. But Bittwatt is having working product who want to miss such good tokens that too when its free Smiley

Shame, I think I missed this - no longer accepting participants.

 I come across a nice article for those who haven't seen it before; check it out @ https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@grade/bitwatt-ico-review


Sorry you missed the Bittwatt Airdrop perhaps they might conduct another bonus campaign in the future. The article you shared is quite interesting their vision statement; ''BITWATT imagine a universe of keen buyers in a reasonable vitality framework with insignificant expenses for all gatherings'' is really inspiring.

Thanks for the article. I am new to Bittwatt ICO. This article will give me very good info. Can someone share introductory video of Bittwatt? I hope they have it?
Sonofspada
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Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 04:30:10 AM
#301
Bittwatt have created a match-making system based on blockchain that both decentralizes and streamlines energy trade on. This also create a proper electrical power balancing system, and a fully transparent, 100% secure ledger of transactions and costs for all parties involved.
Ace44
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Merit: 11
Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 04:29:55 AM
#300
Quote from: gee777 on May 01, 2018, 04:41:14 PM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: jamzzz123 on May 01, 2018, 11:49:17 AM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: Sonofspada on May 01, 2018, 09:46:26 AM
Softcap is 25.3 mil USD and hardcap is 30.4 mil USD. Its too close to each other. Thats why everybody is confident about achieving hardcap sooner than expected.
Yes that is true mate, I totally believe that as long as softcap is achieved, hardcap will be a walkover. I do not see anything stopping that

There is still over 12 days left of the ICO and the hardcap is so close, I'm very confident the team will do it, I can't wait to see the progression and once we hit the exchanges. very exciting
I do believe they can anyway, as long as they do not slow down on promotions, I know they will certainly get responses from potential investors

Bittwatt will be able to achieve the hardcap.. The difference with the soft-cap isn't much just 5 million. Anyway it does not actually matter as they can go on with the project from the soft-cap.

Yea, you're right about that, so i will term this project successful and do believe that more sales will come in, you never can tell and the hardcap will just come knocking, is lovely to see something that is trying to change the traditional settings that has longed been is used with several deficiencies
Hendobox
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Activity: 154
Merit: 0
Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 04:28:47 AM
#299
Quote from: gee777 on May 01, 2018, 04:41:14 PM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: jamzzz123 on May 01, 2018, 11:49:17 AM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: Sonofspada on May 01, 2018, 09:46:26 AM
Softcap is 25.3 mil USD and hardcap is 30.4 mil USD. Its too close to each other. Thats why everybody is confident about achieving hardcap sooner than expected.
Yes that is true mate, I totally believe that as long as softcap is achieved, hardcap will be a walkover. I do not see anything stopping that

There is still over 12 days left of the ICO and the hardcap is so close, I'm very confident the team will do it, I can't wait to see the progression and once we hit the exchanges. very exciting
I do believe they can anyway, as long as they do not slow down on promotions, I know they will certainly get responses from potential investors

Bittwatt will be able to achieve the hardcap.. The difference with the soft-cap isn't much just 5 million. Anyway it does not actually matter as they can go on with the project from the soft-cap.
Yes that is true mate, but it will also be good to see them reach their hardcap. Most projects these days do not reach it, won't be a bad idea if this one can be different
chan001
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Merit: 1
Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 04:27:55 AM
#298
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: jamzzz123 on May 01, 2018, 11:49:17 AM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: Sonofspada on May 01, 2018, 09:46:26 AM
Softcap is 25.3 mil USD and hardcap is 30.4 mil USD. Its too close to each other. Thats why everybody is confident about achieving hardcap sooner than expected.
Yes that is true mate, I totally believe that as long as softcap is achieved, hardcap will be a walkover. I do not see anything stopping that

There is still over 12 days left of the ICO and the hardcap is so close, I'm very confident the team will do it, I can't wait to see the progression and once we hit the exchanges. very exciting
I do believe they can anyway, as long as they do not slow down on promotions, I know they will certainly get responses from potential investors

Good to see Bittwatt not hungry for money. They have kept small difference between softcap and hardcap.
I think softcap is minimum requirements for a project work to start. But after softcap, whatever money is collected is normally spent on marketing. Marketing is most important part but I don't like when ICO spend more money for marketing than project work.
Anilg
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Merit: 10
Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 04:17:21 AM
#297
Quote from: jamzzz123 on May 02, 2018, 04:02:02 AM
Quote from: Anilg on May 02, 2018, 12:39:17 AM
Quote from: Owillz on May 01, 2018, 12:09:59 PM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 09:09:22 AM
Hello people, feel free to fill the form and follow the steps if you want to participate in the airdrop https://bit.ly/2JDnuGh. Getting some free tokens wont be a bad idea as well

First just registered for their airdrop. I urge those who are yet to do so to act quickly now while it's still open. You know, You really have nothing to lose if you do.

Thanks for sharing the link. I normally dont like Airdrops as most of the other tokens have no value. But Bittwatt is having working product who want to miss such good tokens that too when its free Smiley

Shame, I think I missed this - no longer accepting participants.

 I come across a nice article for those who haven't seen it before; check it out @ https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@grade/bitwatt-ico-review


Airdrops is finished. Don't know if there will be another round of airdrop or not.
BTW, thanks for sharing bittwatt ICO review article. It's good article.
Cnote328
newbie
Activity: 112
Merit: 0
Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 04:12:44 AM
#296
Quote from: jamzzz123 on May 02, 2018, 04:02:02 AM
Quote from: Anilg on May 02, 2018, 12:39:17 AM
Quote from: Owillz on May 01, 2018, 12:09:59 PM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 09:09:22 AM
Hello people, feel free to fill the form and follow the steps if you want to participate in the airdrop https://bit.ly/2JDnuGh. Getting some free tokens wont be a bad idea as well

First just registered for their airdrop. I urge those who are yet to do so to act quickly now while it's still open. You know, You really have nothing to lose if you do.

Thanks for sharing the link. I normally dont like Airdrops as most of the other tokens have no value. But Bittwatt is having working product who want to miss such good tokens that too when its free Smiley

Shame, I think I missed this - no longer accepting participants.

 I come across a nice article for those who haven't seen it before; check it out @ https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@grade/bitwatt-ico-review


Sorry you missed the Bittwatt Airdrop perhaps they might conduct another bonus campaign in the future. The article you shared is quite interesting their vision statement; ''BITWATT imagine a universe of keen buyers in a reasonable vitality framework with insignificant expenses for all gatherings'' is really inspiring.
jamzzz123
member
Activity: 350
Merit: 16
Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 04:02:02 AM
#295
Quote from: Anilg on May 02, 2018, 12:39:17 AM
Quote from: Owillz on May 01, 2018, 12:09:59 PM
Quote from: Hendobox on May 01, 2018, 09:09:22 AM
Hello people, feel free to fill the form and follow the steps if you want to participate in the airdrop https://bit.ly/2JDnuGh. Getting some free tokens wont be a bad idea as well

First just registered for their airdrop. I urge those who are yet to do so to act quickly now while it's still open. You know, You really have nothing to lose if you do.

Thanks for sharing the link. I normally dont like Airdrops as most of the other tokens have no value. But Bittwatt is having working product who want to miss such good tokens that too when its free Smiley

Shame, I think I missed this - no longer accepting participants.

 I come across a nice article for those who haven't seen it before; check it out @ https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@grade/bitwatt-ico-review
faulerwilli
full member
Activity: 994
Merit: 140
Re: archived.
May 02, 2018, 02:28:10 AM
#294
Quote from: cryptorani on May 02, 2018, 12:13:54 AM
Quote from: chan001 on May 01, 2018, 12:29:56 PM
Quote from: Zombie259 on May 01, 2018, 10:53:06 AM
Quote from: faulerwilli on May 01, 2018, 10:10:05 AM
i found this picture in the net, this is a good overview of consumer, producer, supplier and pro-consumer
Pro-consumers are definitely the households with a small solar system on the roof. Now you can finally save the self-generated energy that you might not consume otherwise


In summer my solar panels produce more power than we need. My power provider refuses to buy my excessive electricity. Next time I will sell the excess on Bittwatt platform.

This is really good. I hope Bittwatt will start operating in different part of the world and not just in EU.

Bittwatt started in few European  counties only, but I am sure they will expand their operation in other part of the world as well.

Yes, and I am happy that my country is finally at the start of such a project. I've always had to watch from the outside, but now I can be there from the start. I am really happy about that. especially as it is a very good and probably lucrative project
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