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legendary
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June 05, 2019, 11:08:27 AM
#52
Countries can't even help themselves imagine having to help a whole continent far away that has far more problems. Is the poverty rate zero in America or Europe? Of course not, do we not have people dying here? Do we not have children starving? We do, clearly in lower rates but we do, how is it possible that in a 1st world country children are still dying from not eating, how do we still have people without houses? Yes I know some of them do not deserve them but there are far too many that do and have or had jobs and still can't pay for them.


Starving because you are poor doesnt exists in the first world.

Its basically a requirement for being first world.

Being homeless in western and northern europe is not possible either, only if you choose yourself to be homeless.



What a load of crap. In spain many families are thrown out of their houses : https://www.lasexta.com/programas/mas-vale-tarde/noticias/desahuciados-con-mas-de-70-anos-seguimos-sin-tener-una-ley-en-espana-que-garantice-el-derecho-a-la-vivienda_201809255baa6d7b0cf22905f4d3b147.html

If you need translation, the title literally says, Spain still has no law that guarantees the right to a house. The old couple didn't have enough money to pay the rent and couldn't do anything at 70 years old, they were thrown out of their home, you actually think they chose to? This is not one case either, it happened hundreds of times. Wake up.

Doesnt spain has social securities?

I.e. if you are cant afford a home in germany you just go the office for social welfare and get a appartment fully paid with everything you need to live - basically no questions asked.

Seems spain is not part of the first world then or you are posting fake news.

No, it seems that you refuse to look at reality, you are one of those people who think all homeless people are lazy and that's why they are homeless, spain is full of corruption just like many other 1st world countries, political parties steal hundreds of millions here, wake the fuck up bro.

Corruption exists everywhere.

It still doesnt reject the reality that you can instantly get food or a home via social welfare if you cannot afford it in the first world.

You can usually get food but not a home, although a lot of people do get homes here for free, not all of them do, why do you think they are homeless people then if they can simply get a home through social welfare? A lot of old people are getting thrown out of their homes here because they can't pay, do you think they wanted that? They worked their whole life to get thrown out, there are numerous stories about it.


Read my first post to you again.

People choose to be homeless else fucking social welfare pays them a home.

This is a fact in modern first world nations.


Young and old people who cannot afford to pay for themself can use social welfare and instantly get an appartment/house.

This is reality in all western and northern european states (it seems spain would count as a southern european nation which does not provide this)

Its not the reality even though you might think so, also healthcare and education are quite bad in many 1st world countries, romania, bulgaria but even in Spain, i had an appointment with my cardiologist in 7 months from now, i had to go to a private one.

Bulgaria and romania first world, gotcha.

Looks we found the base of the problem lmao.


Yes i agree, education in spain seems to be terrible.
full member
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Merit: 217
June 05, 2019, 02:59:38 AM
#51
Base on what I heard and saw in the news I think yes afracan need our help.Ive never been in Africa but what I saw in the news people are so malnurist from infant to an old people.
We must help african poor people,like an other people adopt the child and help them to survive.give some food ,clothes.
As I know you can donate to the foundation who help african people.share what ever you can share.
hero member
Activity: 1624
Merit: 645
June 03, 2019, 07:07:01 AM
#50
Countries can't even help themselves imagine having to help a whole continent far away that has far more problems. Is the poverty rate zero in America or Europe? Of course not, do we not have people dying here? Do we not have children starving? We do, clearly in lower rates but we do, how is it possible that in a 1st world country children are still dying from not eating, how do we still have people without houses? Yes I know some of them do not deserve them but there are far too many that do and have or had jobs and still can't pay for them.


Starving because you are poor doesnt exists in the first world.

Its basically a requirement for being first world.

Being homeless in western and northern europe is not possible either, only if you choose yourself to be homeless.



What a load of crap. In spain many families are thrown out of their houses : https://www.lasexta.com/programas/mas-vale-tarde/noticias/desahuciados-con-mas-de-70-anos-seguimos-sin-tener-una-ley-en-espana-que-garantice-el-derecho-a-la-vivienda_201809255baa6d7b0cf22905f4d3b147.html

If you need translation, the title literally says, Spain still has no law that guarantees the right to a house. The old couple didn't have enough money to pay the rent and couldn't do anything at 70 years old, they were thrown out of their home, you actually think they chose to? This is not one case either, it happened hundreds of times. Wake up.

Doesnt spain has social securities?

I.e. if you are cant afford a home in germany you just go the office for social welfare and get a appartment fully paid with everything you need to live - basically no questions asked.

Seems spain is not part of the first world then or you are posting fake news.

No, it seems that you refuse to look at reality, you are one of those people who think all homeless people are lazy and that's why they are homeless, spain is full of corruption just like many other 1st world countries, political parties steal hundreds of millions here, wake the fuck up bro.

Corruption exists everywhere.

It still doesnt reject the reality that you can instantly get food or a home via social welfare if you cannot afford it in the first world.

You can usually get food but not a home, although a lot of people do get homes here for free, not all of them do, why do you think they are homeless people then if they can simply get a home through social welfare? A lot of old people are getting thrown out of their homes here because they can't pay, do you think they wanted that? They worked their whole life to get thrown out, there are numerous stories about it.


Read my first post to you again.

People choose to be homeless else fucking social welfare pays them a home.

This is a fact in modern first world nations.


Young and old people who cannot afford to pay for themself can use social welfare and instantly get an appartment/house.

This is reality in all western and northern european states (it seems spain would count as a southern european nation which does not provide this)

Its not the reality even though you might think so, also healthcare and education are quite bad in many 1st world countries, romania, bulgaria but even in Spain, i had an appointment with my cardiologist in 7 months from now, i had to go to a private one.
hero member
Activity: 2002
Merit: 535
June 03, 2019, 01:35:35 AM
#49
Most people go to Africa to be "white saviors" and not to actually help but to feel better about themselves and virtue signal on social media.  We are actually still robbing Africa so we should be helping them by paying them back and no longer exploiting resources from the continent or determining who their leaders are, what their borders are, etc.
There are certain things that are true that most of them go to these third world countries as a savior and that will make them feel better and the amount of respect they get if they do any social activities and feed their own egos but i am not sure how they are still looting them, most of these third world countries who does have natural resources are under organized crime syndicate and they loot them and i am not sure any specific country is behind any of those loots, individuals or groups are behind the loot most of the time, if you have a different opinion regarding that, let us debate about it. 
legendary
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Merit: 1145
June 02, 2019, 04:18:36 PM
#48
Countries can't even help themselves imagine having to help a whole continent far away that has far more problems. Is the poverty rate zero in America or Europe? Of course not, do we not have people dying here? Do we not have children starving? We do, clearly in lower rates but we do, how is it possible that in a 1st world country children are still dying from not eating, how do we still have people without houses? Yes I know some of them do not deserve them but there are far too many that do and have or had jobs and still can't pay for them.


Starving because you are poor doesnt exists in the first world.

Its basically a requirement for being first world.

Being homeless in western and northern europe is not possible either, only if you choose yourself to be homeless.



What a load of crap. In spain many families are thrown out of their houses : https://www.lasexta.com/programas/mas-vale-tarde/noticias/desahuciados-con-mas-de-70-anos-seguimos-sin-tener-una-ley-en-espana-que-garantice-el-derecho-a-la-vivienda_201809255baa6d7b0cf22905f4d3b147.html

If you need translation, the title literally says, Spain still has no law that guarantees the right to a house. The old couple didn't have enough money to pay the rent and couldn't do anything at 70 years old, they were thrown out of their home, you actually think they chose to? This is not one case either, it happened hundreds of times. Wake up.

Doesnt spain has social securities?

I.e. if you are cant afford a home in germany you just go the office for social welfare and get a appartment fully paid with everything you need to live - basically no questions asked.

Seems spain is not part of the first world then or you are posting fake news.

No, it seems that you refuse to look at reality, you are one of those people who think all homeless people are lazy and that's why they are homeless, spain is full of corruption just like many other 1st world countries, political parties steal hundreds of millions here, wake the fuck up bro.

Corruption exists everywhere.

It still doesnt reject the reality that you can instantly get food or a home via social welfare if you cannot afford it in the first world.

You can usually get food but not a home, although a lot of people do get homes here for free, not all of them do, why do you think they are homeless people then if they can simply get a home through social welfare? A lot of old people are getting thrown out of their homes here because they can't pay, do you think they wanted that? They worked their whole life to get thrown out, there are numerous stories about it.


Read my first post to you again.

People choose to be homeless else fucking social welfare pays them a home.

This is a fact in modern first world nations.


Young and old people who cannot afford to pay for themself can use social welfare and instantly get an appartment/house.

This is reality in all western and northern european states (it seems spain would count as a southern european nation which does not provide this)
hero member
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June 02, 2019, 01:20:26 PM
#47
Countries can't even help themselves imagine having to help a whole continent far away that has far more problems. Is the poverty rate zero in America or Europe? Of course not, do we not have people dying here? Do we not have children starving? We do, clearly in lower rates but we do, how is it possible that in a 1st world country children are still dying from not eating, how do we still have people without houses? Yes I know some of them do not deserve them but there are far too many that do and have or had jobs and still can't pay for them.


Starving because you are poor doesnt exists in the first world.

Its basically a requirement for being first world.

Being homeless in western and northern europe is not possible either, only if you choose yourself to be homeless.



What a load of crap. In spain many families are thrown out of their houses : https://www.lasexta.com/programas/mas-vale-tarde/noticias/desahuciados-con-mas-de-70-anos-seguimos-sin-tener-una-ley-en-espana-que-garantice-el-derecho-a-la-vivienda_201809255baa6d7b0cf22905f4d3b147.html

If you need translation, the title literally says, Spain still has no law that guarantees the right to a house. The old couple didn't have enough money to pay the rent and couldn't do anything at 70 years old, they were thrown out of their home, you actually think they chose to? This is not one case either, it happened hundreds of times. Wake up.

Doesnt spain has social securities?

I.e. if you are cant afford a home in germany you just go the office for social welfare and get a appartment fully paid with everything you need to live - basically no questions asked.

Seems spain is not part of the first world then or you are posting fake news.

No, it seems that you refuse to look at reality, you are one of those people who think all homeless people are lazy and that's why they are homeless, spain is full of corruption just like many other 1st world countries, political parties steal hundreds of millions here, wake the fuck up bro.

Corruption exists everywhere.

It still doesnt reject the reality that you can instantly get food or a home via social welfare if you cannot afford it in the first world.

You can usually get food but not a home, although a lot of people do get homes here for free, not all of them do, why do you think they are homeless people then if they can simply get a home through social welfare? A lot of old people are getting thrown out of their homes here because they can't pay, do you think they wanted that? They worked their whole life to get thrown out, there are numerous stories about it.
legendary
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June 02, 2019, 10:02:14 AM
#46
First of all, I don't think that Africa needs any help from the outside. Any type of aid, be it in the form of food, medicines or even weapons will just make the Africans enslaved and addicted to more and more handouts. And I strongly suspect that this is the real intention behind all this "help" being dished out to the natives of the African continent.

A few decades back, the entire continent was under the control of colonial forces (France, Great Fruitain, Portugal.etc). Now there is no direct colonial control being exerted by these colonial powers, but most of the countries are under their indirect control. In many of the cases, the elected presidents were toppled by the ex-colonial powers because they were perceived to be hostile to them. When that was not possible, arms and ammunition were given to the rebel groups, in order to destabilize the government. What happening in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) is a perfect example to this.

Almost every country in the continent is politically unstable. And civil wars are ongoing in many of these territories. Global powerhouses such as the US, France, China, and UK have shown preference to some of the sides that are taking part in these conflicts. For example, in Sudan the Arabs are being supported by countries such as China and Russia, while the Nilotics are being supported by the Europeans. The big prize is the rich oil fields that are located near the Sudan-South Sudan border.

There is only one way to end this mayhem. The inflow of weapons should be stopped and outside intervention by non-African powers must be prevented. African Union peacekeepers must be used to maintain law and order in those countries affected by civil war.
newbie
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June 02, 2019, 02:09:08 AM
#45
It reminds me a lottery. If the poor person won a lottery, he becomes rich only for some period. If he gets money, he doesn't think how to increase his capital, but how to spend it. And in a while this person becomes poor again🙄
Easy money is not lasting happiness.
newbie
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June 01, 2019, 01:43:34 PM
#44
I think it is high time Africans needed to raise up to faces their challenges themselves and  not waiting for some 'white messiahs' to save them.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1145
June 01, 2019, 01:02:43 PM
#43
Countries can't even help themselves imagine having to help a whole continent far away that has far more problems. Is the poverty rate zero in America or Europe? Of course not, do we not have people dying here? Do we not have children starving? We do, clearly in lower rates but we do, how is it possible that in a 1st world country children are still dying from not eating, how do we still have people without houses? Yes I know some of them do not deserve them but there are far too many that do and have or had jobs and still can't pay for them.


Starving because you are poor doesnt exists in the first world.

Its basically a requirement for being first world.

Being homeless in western and northern europe is not possible either, only if you choose yourself to be homeless.



What a load of crap. In spain many families are thrown out of their houses : https://www.lasexta.com/programas/mas-vale-tarde/noticias/desahuciados-con-mas-de-70-anos-seguimos-sin-tener-una-ley-en-espana-que-garantice-el-derecho-a-la-vivienda_201809255baa6d7b0cf22905f4d3b147.html

If you need translation, the title literally says, Spain still has no law that guarantees the right to a house. The old couple didn't have enough money to pay the rent and couldn't do anything at 70 years old, they were thrown out of their home, you actually think they chose to? This is not one case either, it happened hundreds of times. Wake up.

Doesnt spain has social securities?

I.e. if you are cant afford a home in germany you just go the office for social welfare and get a appartment fully paid with everything you need to live - basically no questions asked.

Seems spain is not part of the first world then or you are posting fake news.

No, it seems that you refuse to look at reality, you are one of those people who think all homeless people are lazy and that's why they are homeless, spain is full of corruption just like many other 1st world countries, political parties steal hundreds of millions here, wake the fuck up bro.

Corruption exists everywhere.

It still doesnt reject the reality that you can instantly get food or a home via social welfare if you cannot afford it in the first world.
hero member
Activity: 1624
Merit: 645
June 01, 2019, 12:27:47 PM
#42
Countries can't even help themselves imagine having to help a whole continent far away that has far more problems. Is the poverty rate zero in America or Europe? Of course not, do we not have people dying here? Do we not have children starving? We do, clearly in lower rates but we do, how is it possible that in a 1st world country children are still dying from not eating, how do we still have people without houses? Yes I know some of them do not deserve them but there are far too many that do and have or had jobs and still can't pay for them.


Starving because you are poor doesnt exists in the first world.

Its basically a requirement for being first world.

Being homeless in western and northern europe is not possible either, only if you choose yourself to be homeless.



What a load of crap. In spain many families are thrown out of their houses : https://www.lasexta.com/programas/mas-vale-tarde/noticias/desahuciados-con-mas-de-70-anos-seguimos-sin-tener-una-ley-en-espana-que-garantice-el-derecho-a-la-vivienda_201809255baa6d7b0cf22905f4d3b147.html

If you need translation, the title literally says, Spain still has no law that guarantees the right to a house. The old couple didn't have enough money to pay the rent and couldn't do anything at 70 years old, they were thrown out of their home, you actually think they chose to? This is not one case either, it happened hundreds of times. Wake up.

Doesnt spain has social securities?

I.e. if you are cant afford a home in germany you just go the office for social welfare and get a appartment fully paid with everything you need to live - basically no questions asked.

Seems spain is not part of the first world then or you are posting fake news.

No, it seems that you refuse to look at reality, you are one of those people who think all homeless people are lazy and that's why they are homeless, spain is full of corruption just like many other 1st world countries, political parties steal hundreds of millions here, wake the fuck up bro.
legendary
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Merit: 1145
May 31, 2019, 06:41:49 PM
#41
Countries can't even help themselves imagine having to help a whole continent far away that has far more problems. Is the poverty rate zero in America or Europe? Of course not, do we not have people dying here? Do we not have children starving? We do, clearly in lower rates but we do, how is it possible that in a 1st world country children are still dying from not eating, how do we still have people without houses? Yes I know some of them do not deserve them but there are far too many that do and have or had jobs and still can't pay for them.


Starving because you are poor doesnt exists in the first world.

Its basically a requirement for being first world.

Being homeless in western and northern europe is not possible either, only if you choose yourself to be homeless.



What a load of crap. In spain many families are thrown out of their houses : https://www.lasexta.com/programas/mas-vale-tarde/noticias/desahuciados-con-mas-de-70-anos-seguimos-sin-tener-una-ley-en-espana-que-garantice-el-derecho-a-la-vivienda_201809255baa6d7b0cf22905f4d3b147.html

If you need translation, the title literally says, Spain still has no law that guarantees the right to a house. The old couple didn't have enough money to pay the rent and couldn't do anything at 70 years old, they were thrown out of their home, you actually think they chose to? This is not one case either, it happened hundreds of times. Wake up.

Doesnt spain has social securities?

I.e. if you are cant afford a home in germany you just go the office for social welfare and get a appartment fully paid with everything you need to live - basically no questions asked.

Seems spain is not part of the first world then or you are posting fake news.
hero member
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Merit: 645
May 29, 2019, 10:36:06 AM
#40
Countries can't even help themselves imagine having to help a whole continent far away that has far more problems. Is the poverty rate zero in America or Europe? Of course not, do we not have people dying here? Do we not have children starving? We do, clearly in lower rates but we do, how is it possible that in a 1st world country children are still dying from not eating, how do we still have people without houses? Yes I know some of them do not deserve them but there are far too many that do and have or had jobs and still can't pay for them.


Starving because you are poor doesnt exists in the first world.

Its basically a requirement for being first world.

Being homeless in western and northern europe is not possible either, only if you choose yourself to be homeless.



What a load of crap. In spain many families are thrown out of their houses : https://www.lasexta.com/programas/mas-vale-tarde/noticias/desahuciados-con-mas-de-70-anos-seguimos-sin-tener-una-ley-en-espana-que-garantice-el-derecho-a-la-vivienda_201809255baa6d7b0cf22905f4d3b147.html

If you need translation, the title literally says, Spain still has no law that guarantees the right to a house. The old couple didn't have enough money to pay the rent and couldn't do anything at 70 years old, they were thrown out of their home, you actually think they chose to? This is not one case either, it happened hundreds of times. Wake up.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1145
May 28, 2019, 03:51:45 PM
#39
Countries can't even help themselves imagine having to help a whole continent far away that has far more problems. Is the poverty rate zero in America or Europe? Of course not, do we not have people dying here? Do we not have children starving? We do, clearly in lower rates but we do, how is it possible that in a 1st world country children are still dying from not eating, how do we still have people without houses? Yes I know some of them do not deserve them but there are far too many that do and have or had jobs and still can't pay for them.


Starving because you are poor doesnt exists in the first world.

Its basically a requirement for being first world.

Being homeless in western and northern europe is not possible either, only if you choose yourself to be homeless.

hero member
Activity: 1624
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May 28, 2019, 02:20:19 PM
#38
Countries can't even help themselves imagine having to help a whole continent far away that has far more problems. Is the poverty rate zero in America or Europe? Of course not, do we not have people dying here? Do we not have children starving? We do, clearly in lower rates but we do, how is it possible that in a 1st world country children are still dying from not eating, how do we still have people without houses? Yes I know some of them do not deserve them but there are far too many that do and have or had jobs and still can't pay for them.
sr. member
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May 28, 2019, 01:52:10 PM
#37
The root cause of 99% of the issues that the Africans face today is the uncontrolled population explosion. People are afraid to say this truth, because they will be branded as racists. The Africans need more IUDs and condoms. Sending food aid is not a permanent solution. Are we going to send the food aid (in increasing amounts every year) for the next 1,000 years?

I totally agree, if these people are hungry now, why do they breed a lot? Helping them with food or money will not solve this problem. If they don't want to be hungry, they have to use condom.

they breed because they are agicultural soviety their children are the workforce on their farms, thats a doom cycle that breaks together every 30 years.

It is not true. Why don't agricultural countries like Macedonia make as many children as Africans? The people of many countries around the world have been making money by farming, but only Africans are breeding too much. Because underdeveloped countries have been trying to gain superiority by multiplying their populations. Therefore, I find it absurd that European countries donate food and money to Africans or Arabs. People who is living in these countries must be educated by governments about birth control and deal with problem themselves.

because macedonians arent agricultural
member
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May 28, 2019, 01:42:51 PM
#36
Corporations don't want goal isn't to lift Africans out of poverty, they love how their cheap labor brings them a large amount of profit.  Its really sad but this a dog eat dog world, you have to be skeptical of the charities that supposedly help AFrica as well.  A lot of these charities use most of their budget to fund their own high salaries.

Indeed. But now, they try to focus more in Africa in order to show socially responsible.
The money that they spend for African regions are nothing compared to the profits that they earn. They just do it for their image and their social responsibility strategy.
legendary
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May 25, 2019, 02:17:56 PM
#35
One major problem africa faces are economic policies from industry nations, especially recarding agriculture.

In the last few decades africas agriculture economy was basically wiped from the map via imports of subsidized agriculture products from the EU and the USA.

Its impossible for them to compete with cheap products from europe and the us which are getting subsidies.

This lead to massive unemployment because majority of africans were working in - you guess it - agriculture.

Today we can see the results of this in the amounts of refugees and immigrants from africa.


This is total bullshit and widely known, but no changes are made because the agriculture lobby has enourmous power and billions of $ are on the stake.


Give a man a fish and he has food for 1 day.

Give a man a fishing rod and he can feed himself until he dies.

Just in this case we are giving the man a broken fishing rod which is also poisoned with toxic materials.
hero member
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May 24, 2019, 04:05:00 PM
#34
Corporations don't want goal isn't to lift Africans out of poverty, they love how their cheap labor brings them a large amount of profit.  Its really sad but this a dog eat dog world, you have to be skeptical of the charities that supposedly help AFrica as well.  A lot of these charities use most of their budget to fund their own high salaries.
legendary
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Merit: 1291
May 24, 2019, 01:45:53 PM
#33
The root cause of 99% of the issues that the Africans face today is the uncontrolled population explosion. People are afraid to say this truth, because they will be branded as racists. The Africans need more IUDs and condoms. Sending food aid is not a permanent solution. Are we going to send the food aid (in increasing amounts every year) for the next 1,000 years?

I totally agree, if these people are hungry now, why do they breed a lot? Helping them with food or money will not solve this problem. If they don't want to be hungry, they have to use condom.

they breed because they are agicultural soviety their children are the workforce on their farms, thats a doom cycle that breaks together every 30 years.

It is not true. Why don't agricultural countries like Macedonia make as many children as Africans? The people of many countries around the world have been making money by farming, but only Africans are breeding too much. Because underdeveloped countries have been trying to gain superiority by multiplying their populations. Therefore, I find it absurd that European countries donate food and money to Africans or Arabs. People who is living in these countries must be educated by governments about birth control and deal with problem themselves.
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