Topic: Are Africans being "helped" to much? - page 2. (Read 743 times)

thats not true, in reality africa has to beg the so called "developed markets" to be allowed to sell them something,

if the developed countries would focus on ressource extraction from russia canada and artic there would be wilderness again in africa and no one would live there anymore.

I really do not understand what you mean sir. I see that in the media the propaganda about the poverty and the state of helplessness of Africa citizens are too high but I believe Africa are rich people just that their riches is been taken to the developed countries that claim to help them.

Why do people think governments are magic and can just "take care of" people and all sorts of things?

Screw the government, take care of your damn self, quit appealing to a government to take care of you..

If you want a government, it is up to the people to take care of the government, not the other way around..
If the people don't take care of the government then the government cant take care of anything and will just cause more problems..

Take care of yourself, then when you get that down you can think about taking care of a government next.. If the people can't even take care of themselves then how in the hell are they supposed to take care of a government?

If the people want foreign aid because they can't take care of themselves, then they should also want us to run their government for them so you know, maybe it will work..


As far as wealth, "a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush"..
All the gold in the world in the ground isn't worth squat unless you can figure out how to get it out and turn it into something profitable, or coal, lithium, oil, whatever you have in the ground.
Go get that shit out of the ground and take care of yourselves, or do you need us to do that for you too?
Oh no, that would be "robbing" africa to profitably help them extract their resources right? We ain't doing that shit for free..
No way I am going to go half way around the world to some violent shithole where I might get killed by a horde of savages to help them extract their resources for free.. Maybe for $100k in my pocket per 8 month tour working on hostile foreign wellpads, or I ain't doing it..
You have the internet, figure it out..

Want Halliburton or Schlumberger to come provide equiptment, show you how, and get you set up?
Do you realize what that equiptment costs? Do you realize how much it cost them to gain the knowledge to do it? This stuff costs massive amounts of money few can wrap their heads around and very hard long dangerous work from employees few men have ever experienced..
We are going to make serious money doing it or we aren't going to do it..
If you think that is stealing then you just don't think and your shit will stay right in the ground..

Foreign aid allows the smallfolk to survive just enough to not rebel but still not enough to empower them. Not to mention it frees up more money for the government to loot. If all aid is cutoff the government would have to provide more basic care lest the people rebel. If they keep stealing and let the people starve, well you know what they say about grumbling bellies.

The French Revolution was in part due to famine. These countries just need their Bastille moment AND have them resolve it themselves without foreign intervention.

Good luck with that though.

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governments and corporations everywhere in the world where and are and will stay corrupt, except you create an algorytmic robot government

I’d have to agree here. There is a massive corruption problem in Africa, the people in government who are corrupt are insanely wealthy from being corrupt.

Foreign aid also is just diverted to government corruption as well

I think left to their own, this is how animals react to such environment. More offspring more chances some will survive into adulthood. This was also the case in Europe before and to some extent in the Asia-Pacific.

As standards of living go up, birthrate goes down since you are now expected to send those kids to college, you can't easily evade tax anymore if you earn enough money to send them to college, etc. Despite relaxing the One Child Policy, the CCP found out that people are just not that excited to have enough kids to keep their population above replacement level.

What is racist about stating the truth? I invite you to check the IQ statistics per country.
These days when you say something uncomfortable you're automatically labelled. Stating that Jews have significant influence over international media and banking, which is true, will make them call you an anti-semite. Saying that the average African is not as smart as the average European is racist, and so on. Suddenly when I say that a penis of an average african is longer than the one of the average european it's all fine. When I state that black men are usually taller and stronger than asians it's all fine, but when you say that asians are smarter than blacks you're suddenly racist.


Should we be concerned? The mortality was being taken into account in these regions and for that reason an average woman in Nigeria has 5 children while an average woman in Europe has less than 2. We should rather ask why they're conceiving 5 or 6 children if they barely can feed one. A smart parent thinks about these things, a dumb parent doesn't care.

isnt high child mortality and small life span integral parts of islamic and tribal and even christian lifestyle?

I think Africans are being helped to much... not too much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DySciepA3yU

 

Africans are not poor as perceived by majority people in the world. The continent of Africa is blessed with alot of resources but I think the problem is effective utilization of these resources which are abundant in their natural state. Poor leadership and a sense of direction has made people think Africans are poor.

"Not much has changed"

This is just in the last 70 years.

https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fcountcarbon%2Fstatus%2F1126055688180989952&widget=Tweet

Unless you count children surviving to be "not much"

Stupid guy just hurt himself. Arnie barely felt it.   But yes, just leave them alone. Stop all aid, close the borders and let them sort it out.


Even AIDS barely make a dent.




+1 I think I've read a similar sentiment from this book, just haven't skimmed through it to confirm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4aBFDhWpP8
Problem is, would the "democratic" Western governments and multinational companies allow that when they benefit from this arrangement?

Many developed nations are build with African wealth and I see what is happening to African nations and the under-development as injustice and human wickness to each other. It is time for Africa nations to start seeing themselves as equal to other race and that will eliminate the type of mindset they have.

About the only way we could help Africa is to run their governments for them and help the economy by starting and running business there where they can be employed but they won't let us do that so it's a no-win situation..

they breed because they are agicultural soviety their children are the workforce on their farms, thats a doom cycle that breaks together every 30 years.

jes i think this lunatic showed us that we are threating africans wrong, help them continously will not solve any problems,

40 years ago africans wanted just food,

today they want lambos for themselves and their grandfather.

muslims were 100% right humans are nothing divine.

we westerners should admit that the muslims were right.

I personally wouldn't say the whole of Africa should be judged by a single video of one person being an asshole. If that was the case, the US should be criticized the most, because all the videos of people being assholes. 

I've read some pretty good reports about how companies that are trying to start on the African continent can't grow due to the amount of charity/aid that is being sent to Africa in the name of helping people.

Think about this sort of situation: You start a company in Africa that makes shoes, handmade, and you're doing pretty good. Not selling the shoes for too much, but enough for you to begin expanding the operations of the business. You go ahead and hire two employees and buy a sewing machine to cut costs and manufacture shoes faster.

But wait -- the US government just sent over hundreds of thousands of shoes to your city, no one is going to buy your shoes when they can get shoes for free. You're entire business and livelihood have been destroyed by charity, as you're unable to compete with free.

Businesses can't thrive in an environment where 'free' is the cost for some goods. You're unable to innovate and develop a stable economy with this constant influx of free goods from other countries trying to be kind to you.

Would probably be better for this not to happen at all, and just let the countries in Africa develop their goods and their economy.

You should've include the CORRUPT government. there's a lot of help coming from around the world(which I think is too much) which is given to the government.
decades have past and nothing changed. I know it will be hard but a total change of governance will help them a lot.