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Quote from: Bushdark on May 04, 2024, 05:33:37 AM

The bad government should not be an excuse for us to join into crime. Crime does not have any justification so we ought to the right thing and save our names from been tarnished especially when we are from a very reputable family or regions.
Scammers are everywhere and trying to say they are all from Nigeria could be a wrong saying. I know it s looks like the country has so many scammers that are duping people from all around the globe. I don't mostly base on word on sentiments but I most observe well.

It is not much about scammers from all around the world purposely trying to steal money and at the same time trying to tarnish the global image people have on Nigeria. It is mostly about how Nigeria is viewed from a perspective of popular culture, part of that popular culture is the recurrent scam of the Nigerian prince we all know about.

In general, from my own experience and research on internet, organized scams are from both African countries and South Asia, while hacking and spear fishing comes from eastern Europe and Russia.
On the matter of popular culture and the view on Nigeria and others countries like India, there are several YouTube Channels of people from the west who try to fool and distrupt the operations of scammers in several ways, since those videos have millions of views, people learn those scammers have a very thick accent when trying to talk in English and are from India/Africa. It is an unfortunate reality.

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The bad government should not be an excuse for us to join into crime. Crime does not have any justification so we ought to the right thing and save our names from been tarnished especially when we are from a very reputable family or regions.
Scammers are everywhere and trying to say they are all from Nigeria could be a wrong saying. I know it s looks like the country has so many scammers that are duping people from all around the globe. I don't mostly base on word on sentiments but I most observe well.

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Quote from: Outside Baby on February 15, 2024, 02:13:04 PM

So, I have heard many scammers are from Nigeria.

Stated that many scammers are from Nigeria I do not really think of that, is just that Nigeria have their own obvious that is why people's always think they put of the 100% the 50% of scammers are from Nigeria.

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I am not trying to justify anything or anyone but when look deep in to insight, if Nigeria has the most scammer then the first thing to be looked at is the economy. Nigeria as a country has silently pasted “ your survival is your business” as their motto, no one really cares not even the government.

Yes at least we have to look at the economy of Nigeria how stand it is, because many people are looking for a way to survive but it difficult for them and the main causes of thks kind things are lack of the job and the government doesn't care to considering people which why the number of the scammers in Nigeria are increasing every bless day.

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If you are not rich you cannot start a new business, if you don’t have the best connection you cannot get a good job in a big company. If you are not rich you cannot go the a good average school, if you are not rich you cannot study the course of you choice.. you most go for the best affordable course, if you are not rich you cannot dress properly, if you are not rich you cannot eat properly even chicken is no longer a regular man food cause it is expensive, if you are not rich you cannot think of owning a car or even renting one plus public bus is a topic for another day.

That's all about Nigeria whatever you a person is plan to build most have a connection if you don't a connection if that you sure of yourself that the work you applied you get 100% hope that you can get the job is a lie. Is only the rich that has enough hope for their children that can definitely get what they want any time they want.

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The Nigerian Prince story is the main reason why this stereotype still exists but people in Nigeria are just the same as everyone else, they are honest, and working hard to meet their needs but scammers can be from anywhere so just pointing out a particular race for this that's common is not justifiable. Although some scammers actually from Nigeria orchestrated some of the biggest scams in the past, so the Russian hackers, so the Koeran and everyone else.

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Am not in total support of your theory here that most scammer's are from Nigeria because scam is a global issues not only limited to Nigeria only the truth is most of these world economic super powers that you see we all built on fraud, are you aware that colonisation, slavery and even neocolonialism is also fraud
The truth is Nigeria all over the world are hard working person and because of that they Excel and become prosperous in so people become envious of them and brand them as scammers because of one or two people who are into scam,

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I don't think it is written any part of the world that scammers must be found in a particular country and Nigeria shouldn't be the first country to be mentioned. The thing is that Nigerians who engage in such activity are always making it known that this is what they do, outside Africa they do have scammers roaming around but they do it on a low key, just like they are mindful of what they do and they cover their tracks which makes it look as if other countries don't have scammers.
From how these guys operate, it gives other Nigerians a bad name even when we do have good ones (that don't do such) but because the other scammers have showed how bad they are it has to affect the rest, I'd say 49% of Nigerians are not scammers and it should be known to other countries who see we Nigerians as scammers.

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Nigeria as a country is a hard-working country and the what affect their economy is as a result of the bad leadership they have in the country but the economy can be restored if they have a good leadership that is mainly looking for a way from make sure that there eliminate things from the country without having the negative mindset of achieving something from their government so when you talk of scam country because they have a natural resources and all the use in Nigeria majority of them is hardworking you who depend on the natural resources to make out their own money

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I think scammers are more or less available in all countries so mentioning only one country will make it difficult to analyze. However i agree with your words partly because we ourselves have created the gap between the rich and the poor. Like if you don't have money you can't go to good school, get medical treatment, get good food and get job in good place. Moreover if you want to start a business then need for money is immense. Hence a poor person has to struggle in life with many problems which rich people are ahead of.

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Quote from: Marvelockg on February 21, 2024, 08:40:46 AM

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Out population is much and economy isn't all that strong to carter for some of or people but an average Nigerian is an hard working person that can survive in the midst of a hard and tough economy.

But maybe thats not the only problem here. What about education? I saw you mention somewhere else that you dont care much for formal schooling - you just focus on making money. Frankly that comment struck me as misguided. Seems like something only someone without much education would say. So could that be part of the problem in your country? Like, people dont get enough general education or training?

Im just thinking out loud and it is probably more complicated than that. There is likely bigger forces at work shaping how hard people work and what opportunities they have. But education seems like one piece of the puzzle that we shouldnt ignore. An educated population tends to contribute more to an economy overall. What do you think - does lack of education play any role here, or is it almost all down to each persons character and initiative? Curious to hear what you think.

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Quote from: Outside Baby on February 15, 2024, 02:13:04 PM

The reality of Nigeria is only the rich can survive.

I think this is the reality for most countries. Without government support, if you're just living below the poverty level then you're likely to do something that's against your will and that's why if the question if most scammers are from that country, I'd say that they can be found everywhere. With that notion, it all started with those internet/email scams long time ago and that's why they're labelled like that. But look at the exchange owners that tend to be a scam like FTX and also the likes of Do Kwon, they're not from that country and yet, they've scammed a lot of money from the innocent people that have believed in them.

And going about the survival rate, even those people that are not having the best life and are in poverty. They're also surviving and fighting a good fight and balance way of living. I hope that someday that this notion will change and people will be cleared with their minds that if it's about scams, those abusive and real scammers can be found everywhere and they're not only specific to this country. Hopefully, most governments from the countries that have high corruption rate will have someone to save them from that state too.

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Quote from: Outside Baby on February 15, 2024, 02:13:04 PM

So, I have heard many scammers are from Nigeria.

I am not trying to justify anything or anyone but when look deep in to insight, if Nigeria has the most scammer then the first thing to be looked at is the economy. Nigeria as a country has silently pasted “ your survival is your business” as their motto, no one really cares not even the government.

If you are not rich you cannot start a new business, if you don’t have the best connection you cannot get a good job in a big company. If you are not rich you cannot go the a good average school, if you are not rich you cannot study the course of you choice.. you most go for the best affordable course, if you are not rich you cannot dress properly, if you are not rich you cannot eat properly even chicken is no longer a regular man food cause it is expensive, if you are not rich you cannot think of owning a car or even renting one plus public bus is a topic for another day.

The reality of Nigeria is only the rich can survive.

In a country like this how and why won’t there be scammers even the government are frauds too they are only focused of getting all the money they can to preserve it for their generations. The hardship here is different.

There are no jobs, getting a loan is almost impossible if you don’t have a reliable source of income or any property to mortgage, many are dropout, many are graduates with out job, many did not even smell the coners of school, many cannot afford medical bills , many are starving and everybody wants to survive. So i wouldn’t say they are looking for quick money instead I would say they are all trying to survive.

OP is this a question or just trying to know peoples view, I have thoroughly checked the content your thread, the caption does not relate much with the message, if you must know, most scammers are not from Nigeria, is just that the situation of things here are being caused by our politicians, in case of another time, if you have a question to ask go straight to the point, don't make it look as if you are being biased, how does a bad economy relate to citizens being scammers, I don't think there is any connection in this, lets not just post, scrutinize your facts before bring it to the public notice, though this is my opinion.

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Quote from: Outside Baby on February 15, 2024, 02:13:04 PM

If you are not rich you cannot start a new business, if you don’t have the best connection you cannot get a good job in a big company. If you are not rich you cannot go the a good average school, if you are not rich you cannot study the course of you choice.. you most go for the best affordable course, if you are not rich you cannot dress properly, if you are not rich you cannot eat properly even chicken is no longer a regular man food cause it is expensive, if you are not rich you cannot think of owning a car or even renting one plus public bus is a topic for another day.

OP, so in your mind's eye you can say to yourself that you actually posted something truthful with all that misleading assumptions? Whether you're a Nigerian or not, you should've stated your fact clearly from what angle you wrote.

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The reality of Nigeria is only the rich can survive.

Really? Well, that makes you a rich dude too. You're surviving, aren't you?

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In a country like this how and why won’t there be scammers even the government are frauds too they are only focused of getting all the money they can to preserve it for their generations. The hardship here is different.

Even the best countries you think of in Europe also have scammers. But of course, no one has the justification of going into crime because they're poor and broke or because their government is bad. It's a choice (bad choice) people make and then turn around to blame someone for it. Hardship is everywhere, globally. Crime is also everywhere globally and that's the reason there are prisons.

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Now that's just racist and I think that this has been disproven before, the person that got caught using this Nigerian prince scam was found in a state in USA and the dude is hillbilly white. I think there's really no accurate metric as to which nation's got the most scammers because right now we can't say for sure because we're biased because those that's shown to us through algorithm which makes us think that they're the country with the most scammers, for example, I was watching a scam call center in India get busted by some scambaiter and then my algorithm just gave me all these scammers getting busted by scambaiters that's mostly in India. It's such a sad thing that this is what's happening all over the world, I guess it's because you've got no choice and there's no other way around with your life, you need to do what you've got to do.

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Quote from: Outside Baby on February 15, 2024, 02:13:04 PM

The reality of Nigeria is only the rich can survive.

This is a poor mans mentality, why will you think that survival is only for the rich, can the rich make a living without the help of the poor, they will have to depend on the poor ones to help them with their works, also the poor are not too tied to be on the same spot for life except they choose to, there are opportunities everywhere and people are making use of it to maintain a living and change their own story as well, I've seen many poor people becoming rich with their determination and pursuit after excellent.

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Quote from: Outside Baby on February 15, 2024, 02:13:04 PM

So, I have heard many scammers are from Nigeria.

I am not trying to justify anything or anyone but when look deep in to insight, if Nigeria has the most scammer then the first thing to be looked at is the economy. Nigeria as a country has silently pasted “ your survival is your business” as their motto, no one really cares not even the government.

If you are not rich you cannot start a new business, if you don’t have the best connection you cannot get a good job in a big company. If you are not rich you cannot go the a good average school, if you are not rich you cannot study the course of you choice.. you most go for the best affordable course, if you are not rich you cannot dress properly, if you are not rich you cannot eat properly even chicken is no longer a regular man food cause it is expensive, if you are not rich you cannot think of owning a car or even renting one plus public bus is a topic for another day.

The reality of Nigeria is only the rich can survive.

In a country like this how and why won’t there be scammers even the government are frauds too they are only focused of getting all the money they can to preserve it for their generations. The hardship here is different.

There are no jobs, getting a loan is almost impossible if you don’t have a reliable source of income or any property to mortgage, many are dropout, many are graduates with out job, many did not even smell the coners of school, many cannot afford medical bills , many are starving and everybody wants to survive. So i wouldn’t say they are looking for quick money instead I would say they are all trying to survive.

From your question it's obvious that you are not a Nigerian and in essence you are saying that our falling economy is the reason why Nigeria has the most scammers, most nation in the world (if not every nation) has scammers and, Yes! Nigeria is not exceptional so asking this question and pointing directly at one NATION is ridiculous. It would have been better if you asked, "which country has the most scammers"

I won't say you asked this question based on experience because you said you heard, it's true that our government has failed us but my question to you is that "are you a Nigerian? If NO, please do your research about Nigeria very well before concluding on how we survive. The reality of Nigeria is not only the rich can survive, I am an example that the poor/average Nigerian can survive too.

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When I see people speak so bad about Nigeria I intimidate them by laughing, yes because I'm a proud Nigerian and i know the truth about my country so someone from another edge of the world can't describe what I know for me.

If you don't know, Nigerians over the world are the best people you can find, we are just consume with the old impressions that have been put on us from old stories. the biggest scams in the world are not even in Nigeria or from Nigerians, people from other countries do scam but it's just that it had been labeled on Nigerians to be scammers.

The government over here is just messed up so there is tendency for thee increase in crime but believe Nigerians are just smarter than people other countries thats what makes them look like bad people. if the energy Nigerians have is focused on a positive way no country (no country in the universe) can be compared to Nigeria. In your country or wherever you're just find yourself in the midst of Nigerians then you will find love and care that even own family can't show you.

Don't judge a book by its cover. come to Nigeria and experience it yourself.

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Quote from: Kliss on February 16, 2024, 03:24:00 AM

The Answer to that question is NO, what you heard of Nigeria is a wrong perspective of Nigeria regardless to scam. There is No country Globally that scammers doesn't exist U.S, Britain, Asia etc. so don't use your experience with one or what you heard to justify an entire nation. Globally you can see Nigerians thriving in various fields positively, politics, Academics, sports, movie industries, Entertainments etc.

What Nigeria is experiencing is as a result of bad governance and bad leadership, who fail to provide the basic necessity needed by it's populous citizens and the environment. There is no jobs opportunities and Nigeria have a large population, this has affected Nigerians but it has also build many not to depend on government alone. I know because of its large population crime and fraud are meant to occur or people engaging in negative acts but in every society there is always the good ones and bad ones.

For me I think the question is even a stupid question because scam is something that has been happening long before the creation of Nigeria itself as a country and I know very well that their are scammers everywhere even in the most well decorated nations in the world so Nigeria having scammers is still a result of the government being reluctant to the main issues that would have helped salvage the economy of the country.

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It looks messed up and something which have been created over the years, government should be held accountable for pushing Nigeria into such crisis but at the same time if your government is looting from you or pushing you to poverty that doesn't justify you doing the same with somebody else. people need to kick out the corrupt government but I don't think there are any honest politician who can lead because people still vote based on their tribe, connections wherein they end up selecting corrupt government.

It's really difficult to go back and correct it unless they adopt the method used by Singapore to convert it from a resource less poor strip into developed nation as they stopped voting and selecting candidates based on their connections or religion or tribe but selected government based on merits.

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You know Nigerian Prince or whatever scam mentions "Nigeria" doesn't mean the culprit is a Nigerian Citizen. So why these scams didn't use the Chinese Emperor or whatever other absurd names is a big question mark (for me). Do people really fall for this scam? It has a fair share of internet memes lol

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Many data shows most of the online scams originate from Nigeria, which is closely followed by Indian.
The prime reason for scamming being originated from these countries is the unofficial protection of the scam operators by the law enforcement and general social acceptance of such establishment as a business. They do seem to crack down on scammers on foreign request but the law enforcement just pretends to take them in custody while helping them set up their center somewhere else.

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